Re: Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-21 Thread Joost Verburg

James Oldfield wrote:

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).


Could you try to install 1.6.3-2? This updated installer includes Qt 
4.5.2 (a new version of the library that LyX uses for its interface) and 
it looks like they fixed such a font issue.


Joost



Re: Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-21 Thread Joost Verburg

James Oldfield wrote:

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).


Could you try to install 1.6.3-2? This updated installer includes Qt 
4.5.2 (a new version of the library that LyX uses for its interface) and 
it looks like they fixed such a font issue.


Joost



Re: Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-21 Thread Joost Verburg

James Oldfield wrote:

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).


Could you try to install 1.6.3-2? This updated installer includes Qt 
4.5.2 (a new version of the library that LyX uses for its interface) and 
it looks like they fixed such a font issue.


Joost



Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-18 Thread James Oldfield
Hi,

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).

At college, screen fonts in LyX seem to be distorted, even when I have
caching turned off.  I attached a couple of examples to this email, with
white background and no zooming (although the problem also occurs in my
favoured settings of 120% zoom and light blue background).  It seems
that there are two different things going on:
 1) A one-pixel wide column on the left and right edge of most
 characters is being truncated. This looks particularly silly for thin
 characters such as l and i.
 2) All the pixels are converted to grey (they start off coloured
 because this is how ClearType shades subpixels).

2 is absolutely not a problem.  I only mention it in case it's related
to 1 (perhaps it's the cause?). It happens whether pixel caching is on
or off, although when it is off the grey pixels are a bit darker. [home
PC: I *thought* that on my home PC 2 only happened when I turned pixel
caching on (in fact I leave it on there for this reason, since then the
font better matches the instant preview); I can't check this since I
don't have access to that PC for the next few days.]

1 is a problem!  The text looks very wrong and is hard to read. [home
PC: this definitely does not happen there; the text looks fine.]

Interesting point I discovered: this happens even in LyX dialog boxes
(both the labels and edit boxes, which use Tahoma 8pt). The problem is
not so noticeable there since it's not so bad for small fonts.  In fact
my workaround for now is to use small fonts for editing, but this is a
strain. 

Any idea what might be happening? Is there some font engine that LyX
uses that maybe is out of date on the computer I am using? I can't try
the other installer or turn ClearType off because I don't have the
privileges. [I have ClearType turned on at home, so I don't really think
it's that anyway.]

Thanks in advance,
Jim
attachment: screen_font_example.png

Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-18 Thread James Oldfield
Hi,

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).

At college, screen fonts in LyX seem to be distorted, even when I have
caching turned off.  I attached a couple of examples to this email, with
white background and no zooming (although the problem also occurs in my
favoured settings of 120% zoom and light blue background).  It seems
that there are two different things going on:
 1) A one-pixel wide column on the left and right edge of most
 characters is being truncated. This looks particularly silly for thin
 characters such as l and i.
 2) All the pixels are converted to grey (they start off coloured
 because this is how ClearType shades subpixels).

2 is absolutely not a problem.  I only mention it in case it's related
to 1 (perhaps it's the cause?). It happens whether pixel caching is on
or off, although when it is off the grey pixels are a bit darker. [home
PC: I *thought* that on my home PC 2 only happened when I turned pixel
caching on (in fact I leave it on there for this reason, since then the
font better matches the instant preview); I can't check this since I
don't have access to that PC for the next few days.]

1 is a problem!  The text looks very wrong and is hard to read. [home
PC: this definitely does not happen there; the text looks fine.]

Interesting point I discovered: this happens even in LyX dialog boxes
(both the labels and edit boxes, which use Tahoma 8pt). The problem is
not so noticeable there since it's not so bad for small fonts.  In fact
my workaround for now is to use small fonts for editing, but this is a
strain. 

Any idea what might be happening? Is there some font engine that LyX
uses that maybe is out of date on the computer I am using? I can't try
the other installer or turn ClearType off because I don't have the
privileges. [I have ClearType turned on at home, so I don't really think
it's that anyway.]

Thanks in advance,
Jim
attachment: screen_font_example.png

Screen font display issue (cleartype?)

2009-07-18 Thread James Oldfield
Hi,

Both my home and college computers are running LyX 1.6.3 (3 June 2009)
on Windows XP, installed with the default installer. I see the following
problem only on my college computer [but I have mentioned my home PC in
a couple of places for comparison, you can ignore if you like]. This is
about fonts as they appear in the LyX edit window, *NOT* in the PDF
output (or instant preview).

At college, screen fonts in LyX seem to be distorted, even when I have
caching turned off.  I attached a couple of examples to this email, with
white background and no zooming (although the problem also occurs in my
favoured settings of 120% zoom and light blue background).  It seems
that there are two different things going on:
 1) A one-pixel wide column on the left and right edge of most
 characters is being truncated. This looks particularly silly for thin
 characters such as l and i.
 2) All the pixels are converted to grey (they start off coloured
 because this is how ClearType shades subpixels).

2 is absolutely not a problem.  I only mention it in case it's related
to 1 (perhaps it's the cause?). It happens whether pixel caching is on
or off, although when it is off the grey pixels are a bit darker. [home
PC: I *thought* that on my home PC 2 only happened when I turned pixel
caching on (in fact I leave it on there for this reason, since then the
font better matches the instant preview); I can't check this since I
don't have access to that PC for the next few days.]

1 is a problem!  The text looks very wrong and is hard to read. [home
PC: this definitely does not happen there; the text looks fine.]

Interesting point I discovered: this happens even in LyX dialog boxes
(both the labels and edit boxes, which use Tahoma 8pt). The problem is
not so noticeable there since it's not so bad for small fonts.  In fact
my workaround for now is to use small fonts for editing, but this is a
strain. 

Any idea what might be happening? Is there some font engine that LyX
uses that maybe is out of date on the computer I am using? I can't try
the other installer or turn ClearType off because I don't have the
privileges. [I have ClearType turned on at home, so I don't really think
it's that anyway.]

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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