Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote: This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't do now. This is the part that needs coding. Thanks for the information. Sorry I cannot help with the coding but I am not proficient in C or C++. Perhaps in the future ...? Meanwhile, I will stick with ERT! Cheers, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : / \ : : | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote: This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't do now. This is the part that needs coding. Thanks for the information. Sorry I cannot help with the coding but I am not proficient in C or C++. Perhaps in the future ...? Meanwhile, I will stick with ERT! Cheers, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : / \ : : | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote: This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't do now. This is the part that needs coding. Thanks for the information. Sorry I cannot help with the coding but I am not proficient in C or C++. Perhaps in the future ...? Meanwhile, I will stick with ERT! Cheers, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : : / \ : : | <_/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote:
I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a
few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename.
Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the
full
solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the
proper fix is
to add support for styles in lyx.
If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
look for.
Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
shouldn't be
too hard.
If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that
clearly
don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different
styles. But
this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx.
I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
Layout LaTex Preamble...
% %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
\usepackage{ifthen}
\providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{filename{#2}/filename}}{}% SGML
filename tags
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
}
Here is the text in Lyx ('myfile' is blue and 'Large' is magenta):
newbie test myfile
Large text
This produced unaltered text when viewed in DVI.
With Export DocBook, the SGML file contained no filename tags:
para
newbie test myfile
/para
para
Large text
/para
Also, the preamble was printed at the top of both the DVI and the SGML
documents.
If I change the document from 'DocBook article (SGML)' to 'article' and
view in DVI, the magenta text is in large type, and the preamble is not
printed at the top.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Chris.
--
: ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
: / \ :
: | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. :
: \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. :
: \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:26, Chris Lale wrote:
proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx.
If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
look for.
Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
shouldn't be too hard.
If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
I was speaking of a C++ function, Buffer::simpleDocBookOnePar in
src/buffer.C
I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
Layout LaTex Preamble...
% %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
\usepackage{ifthen}
\providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{filename{#2}/filename}}{}% SGML
filename tags
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
}
This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for
docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't
do now. This is the part that needs coding.
[...]
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Chris.
--
José Abílio
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote:
I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a
few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename.
Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the
full
solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the
proper fix is
to add support for styles in lyx.
If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
look for.
Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
shouldn't be
too hard.
If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that
clearly
don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different
styles. But
this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx.
I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
Layout LaTex Preamble...
% %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
\usepackage{ifthen}
\providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{filename{#2}/filename}}{}% SGML
filename tags
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
}
Here is the text in Lyx ('myfile' is blue and 'Large' is magenta):
newbie test myfile
Large text
This produced unaltered text when viewed in DVI.
With Export DocBook, the SGML file contained no filename tags:
para
newbie test myfile
/para
para
Large text
/para
Also, the preamble was printed at the top of both the DVI and the SGML
documents.
If I change the document from 'DocBook article (SGML)' to 'article' and
view in DVI, the magenta text is in large type, and the preamble is not
printed at the top.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Chris.
--
: ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
: / \ :
: | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. :
: \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. :
: \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:26, Chris Lale wrote:
proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx.
If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
look for.
Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
shouldn't be too hard.
If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
I was speaking of a C++ function, Buffer::simpleDocBookOnePar in
src/buffer.C
I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
Layout LaTex Preamble...
% %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
\usepackage{ifthen}
\providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{filename{#2}/filename}}{}% SGML
filename tags
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
}
This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for
docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't
do now. This is the part that needs coding.
[...]
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Chris.
--
José Abílio
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
José Matos wrote:
> On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote:
>
>>I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a
>>few inline SGML tags eg some text.
>
> Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the
full
> solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the
proper fix is
> to add support for styles in lyx.
>
> If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
look for.
> Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
shouldn't be
> too hard.
If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
>
> Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that
clearly
> don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different
styles. But
> this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx.
I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
Layout > LaTex Preamble...
% %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
\usepackage{ifthen}
\providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{{#2}}}{}% SGML
filename tags
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
}
Here is the text in Lyx ('myfile' is blue and 'Large' is magenta):
newbie test myfile
Large text
This produced unaltered text when viewed in DVI.
With Export > DocBook, the SGML file contained no tags:
newbie test myfile
Large text
Also, the preamble was printed at the top of both the DVI and the SGML
documents.
If I change the document from 'DocBook article (SGML)' to 'article' and
view in DVI, the magenta text is in large type, and the preamble is not
printed at the top.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Chris.
--
: ___ Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
: / \ :
: | <_/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. :
: \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. :
: \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:26, Chris Lale wrote:
>> proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx.
>> If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to
>> look for.
>>
>> Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it
>> shouldn't be too hard.
>
> If this means modifying text configuration files, yes please - I will
> have a go. I am not proficient in C though.
I was speaking of a C++ function, Buffer::simpleDocBookOnePar in
src/buffer.C
> I did try this (modified from the troubleshooters.com Linux Productivity
> Magazine), but it did not work in 'DocBook article (SGML)':
>
>
> Layout > LaTex Preamble...
>
> % %%% Pseudo character styles indexed by color %%%
> \usepackage{ifthen}
> \providecommand{\textcolor}[2]{#2}
> \renewcommand{\textcolor}[2]{%
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{blue}}{{{#2}}}{}% SGML
> filename tags
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}}{{\large{\texttt{#2{}%Large text
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{magenta}\or\equal{#1}{blue}}{}{#2}%fallthrough
> }
This trick will only work with latex, I was proposing a similar hack but for
docbook, we would need to output the colour changes, something that we don't
do now. This is the part that needs coding.
[...]
> Any ideas?
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
--
José Abílio
Using Noun Style for SGML tags
I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename. The ... tags are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: Layout Noun Style Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. Render as filenamesome text/filename when exported to DocBook. If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles to render other SGML tags. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thanks, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : / \ : : | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote: I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename. The ... tags are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: Layout Noun Style Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. Render as filenamesome text/filename when exported to DocBook. If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles to render other SGML tags. Similar to that I planned to redirect typewriter font to literal. But where the meaning seems obvious. Certainly we can define Small Caps to mean filename, but this would be only a hack. Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the full solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx. If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to look for. Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it shouldn't be too hard. Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that clearly don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different styles. But this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx. I would be grateful for any suggestions. I hope this helps, Thanks, Chris. -- José Abílio
Using Noun Style for SGML tags
I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename. The ... tags are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: Layout Noun Style Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. Render as filenamesome text/filename when exported to DocBook. If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles to render other SGML tags. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thanks, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : / \ : : | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote: I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a few inline SGML tags eg filenamesome text/filename. The ... tags are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: Layout Noun Style Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. Render as filenamesome text/filename when exported to DocBook. If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles to render other SGML tags. Similar to that I planned to redirect typewriter font to literal. But where the meaning seems obvious. Certainly we can define Small Caps to mean filename, but this would be only a hack. Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the full solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx. If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to look for. Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it shouldn't be too hard. Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that clearly don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different styles. But this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx. I would be grateful for any suggestions. I hope this helps, Thanks, Chris. -- José Abílio
Using Noun Style for SGML tags
I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a few inline SGML tags eg some text. The < ... > tags are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: Layout > Noun Style Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. Render as some text when exported to DocBook. If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles to render other SGML tags. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thanks, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : : / \ : : | <_/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org :
Re: Using Noun Style for SGML tags
On Friday 06 December 2002 10:04, Chris Lale wrote: > I am using DocBook article (SGML)in Lyx 1.1.6fix4. I make much use of a > few inline SGML tags eg some text. The < ... > tags > are in red text. I would like to avoid using the red tags by redefining > Styles in the preamble. Here is the most complex change I wish to make: > > Layout > Noun Style > Render as Bold and Typewriter (without Small Caps) in Lyx, DVI, PDF. > Render as some text when exported to DocBook. > > If I can find out how do this, I should be able to redefine other Styles > to render other SGML tags. Similar to that I planned to redirect typewriter font to literal. But where the meaning seems obvious. Certainly we can define Small Caps to mean filename, but this would be only a hack. Instead of adding this kind of hacks I would prefer to work in the full solution, as it is easier to maintain in the long term. And the proper fix is to add support for styles in lyx. If you still want to make this work, I can give some tips where to look for. Actually you only need to change the code in one function, so it shouldn't be too hard. Now if you want to fake some styles we can use the colours, that clearly don't have any counterparts in docbook and use them for different styles. But this only shows how much we need real user defined styles in lyx. > I would be grateful for any suggestions. I hope this helps, > Thanks, > > Chris. -- José Abílio
