Re: Workaround for: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/05/2018 06:05 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 05/09/2018 à 11:45, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
>> @developers: Maybe now you see that the Win installer must do more
>> and forcing a MiKTeX update is necessary as you can see in this case.
>> We cannot say "not our fault". Yes, LyX is not to blame but what
>> matters is if users can use LyX. In my case I wanted to write an
>> urgent letter with LyX but could not use it and had to use
>> LibreOffice instead.
>
> Hello Uwe,
>
> What I see now is that miktex should provide a small "repair pack" to
> fix these things. Or that switching to texlive is more reasonable for
> our users.

+1

Riki



Re: Workaround for: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-09-05 Thread Andrew Parsloe




On 5/09/2018 9:45 p.m., Uwe Stöhr wrote:
As of today the update servers are working again. However, one needs a 
workaround because the buggy DLL of MiKTeX prevents the updates from 
being applied.


it seems that the bug affects all users of Windows 7 while Win 10 is 
not affected. For the affected users there is a workaround but you 
need admin permissions and some knowledge:


- open a Windows console as admin (type in "cmd" in the Windows Start 
field, and right-click on it to run it with admin privileges)

- execute these 2 commands subsequently:
initexmf --admin --update-fndb
and
initexmf --admin --mklinks --force
- close the Windows console
- now start the MiKTeX console
- choose there to restart with admin privileges
- check for updates and if there are any apply them

From my point of view I see no other option than to provide a new LyX 
for Windows installer that repairs broken system by executing these 
commands in the background after LyX was installed. This way users 
with problems can just run the Win installer again and get a working 
LyX back in a minute without the need to know about console commands etc.


@developers: Maybe now you see that the Win installer must do more and 
forcing a MiKTeX update is necessary as you can see in this case. We 
cannot say "not our fault". Yes, LyX is not to blame but what matters 
is if users can use LyX. In my case I wanted to write an urgent letter 
with LyX but could not use it and had to use LibreOffice instead.


regards Uwe
I'm on windows 7 and MiKTeX 2.9.  MiKTeX update failed about a week ago 
and I couldn't compile to pdf, nor did instant preview work. The 
following day I tried updating again, and everything worked as it 
should, and as it has done since (including 11 packages updated just a 
few minutes ago). MiKTeX updates from ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de which 
seems a bit odd for someone in New Zealand but MiKTeX selected this 
itself with no help from me. (I think using the "random package on the 
internet" option in the console.) I've now also, after the update, 
compiled a complicated master-child document to pdf, so everything is 
working as it ought.


Andrew



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Re: Workaround for: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-09-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 05/09/2018 à 11:45, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
@developers: Maybe now you see that the Win installer must do more and 
forcing a MiKTeX update is necessary as you can see in this case. We 
cannot say "not our fault". Yes, LyX is not to blame but what matters is 
if users can use LyX. In my case I wanted to write an urgent letter with 
LyX but could not use it and had to use LibreOffice instead.


Hello Uwe,

What I see now is that miktex should provide a small "repair pack" to 
fix these things. Or that switching to texlive is more reasonable for 
our users.


JMarc


Workaround for: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-09-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
As of today the update servers are working again. However, one needs a 
workaround because the buggy DLL of MiKTeX prevents the updates from 
being applied.


it seems that the bug affects all users of Windows 7 while Win 10 is not 
affected. For the affected users there is a workaround but you need 
admin permissions and some knowledge:


- open a Windows console as admin (type in "cmd" in the Windows Start 
field, and right-click on it to run it with admin privileges)

- execute these 2 commands subsequently:
initexmf --admin --update-fndb
and
initexmf --admin --mklinks --force
- close the Windows console
- now start the MiKTeX console
- choose there to restart with admin privileges
- check for updates and if there are any apply them

From my point of view I see no other option than to provide a new LyX 
for Windows installer that repairs broken system by executing these 
commands in the background after LyX was installed. This way users with 
problems can just run the Win installer again and get a working LyX back 
in a minute without the need to know about console commands etc.


@developers: Maybe now you see that the Win installer must do more and 
forcing a MiKTeX update is necessary as you can see in this case. We 
cannot say "not our fault". Yes, LyX is not to blame but what matters is 
if users can use LyX. In my case I wanted to write an urgent letter with 
LyX but could not use it and had to use LibreOffice instead.


regards Uwe


Re: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-09-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 29.08.2018 um 03:30 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


I hope this issue will be fixed soon and report back.


Status report: The problem persists. The fix for MiKTeX was already 
released but the main update server of MiKTeX is down. One cannot 
retrieve any update yet, no matter what update server is chosen.


regards Uwe


Re: WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-08-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr
  > I had this problem trying to install MikTeX and LateX on a new Windows computer. I got that message about an unknown procedure entry point. After uninstalling and re-installing several times, I got MikTex to work. Lyx still tells me there is no PDF viewer installed, as I described in another thread.Hi Rick, yes the problem you having is exactly the one I described. So currently there is no workaround than to wait until MiKTeX is fixed.Regards Uwe


WARNING: updating LaTeX or LyX under Windows will currently break LaTeX installation

2018-08-28 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Dear LyX Windows users,

yesterday I noticed a severe bug in the LaTeX system "MiKTeX" that LyX 
is usually using under Windows. The problem is that if you

- upgrade MiKTeX or LyX
or
- install a new LaTeX package
or
- refresh the MiKTeX package database

you will end up in a broken LaTeX with error messages like "unknown 
procedure entry point".


I experimented around for more than 2 hours but could not find a 
workaround once LaTeX is broken. Even a reinstallation of LyX or MiKTeX 
doesn't help since the result are always broken DLLs and I could not 
find a way to prevent this.


Therefore I strongly recommend not to change anything in your LaTeX 
setup nor to compile LyX documents that might use special LaTeX packages 
hat are not yet installed on your PC.

Also don't install another version of LyX or reinstall LyX.

I hope this issue will be fixed soon and report back.

regards Uwe