Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I believe I may have stumbled upon the solution.  

I used to have my desktop shortcut for LyX using the
target  C:\LyxFiles\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir
C:\lyxuserdir

so I figured I would just use the same userdir for the
LyX 1.4.X version.Apparently this was a bad idea
and resulted in the messed up punctuation. I
removed the userdir and copied my .layouts over to the
new 1.4 directory and everything seems to be OK now.  





 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I believe I may have stumbled upon the solution.  

I used to have my desktop shortcut for LyX using the
target  C:\LyxFiles\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir
C:\lyxuserdir

so I figured I would just use the same userdir for the
LyX 1.4.X version.Apparently this was a bad idea
and resulted in the messed up punctuation. I
removed the userdir and copied my .layouts over to the
new 1.4 directory and everything seems to be OK now.  





 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I believe I may have stumbled upon the solution.  

I used to have my desktop shortcut for LyX using the
target  C:\LyxFiles\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir
C:\lyxuserdir

so I figured I would just use the same userdir for the
LyX 1.4.X version.Apparently this was a bad idea
and resulted in the messed up punctuation. I
removed the userdir and copied my .layouts over to the
new 1.4 directory and everything seems to be OK now.  





 

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Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 

It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 

It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)

Anyone have any ideas?



 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Michael Wojcik]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 


It sounds like they're being treated as dead keys, but why this would 
suddenly be happening in only one application on Windows (per the rest 
of your note, which I snipped) I don't know.  But input-method handling 
in Windows is a little tricky, since (as with so many other things) 
Windows tries to be helpful and will muck about with settings as you 
change focus from one application to another, if it has a mind to.


(I've seen it switch between the US-English and UK-English keyboard 
layout in this manner, for example.)


Here are a couple of things to try:

- In LyX, try typing eg 'e (apostrophe, then e).  Do you get an e with 
an accute accent?  If so, then the apostrophe key is being treated as a 
dead key, which would explain why you have to strike it twice to get 
just an apostrophe.


- Show the language bar (right-click on the Windows taskbar, select 
Toolbars | Language Bar).  If you don't have the Language Bar option, 
that probably means you have Advanced Text Services disabled, in which 
case I don't know what the problem might be.  (Advanced Text Services is 
controlled by the Regional and Language Options control panel, Languages 
tab, Details button.)  When you have the Language Bar visible, see if it 
changes when you switch focus between LyX and other applications where 
the keyboard works as expected.


--
Michael Wojcik

Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

 Do you get an e with an accute accent?  

Yep.

 


 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Paul A. Rubin]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 


It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)



At least two other people have reported adventures with keyboards.  In 
one case, certain letter keys were being interpreted as if they were in 
combination with the Alt key.


It might be interesting to try the following.  Open a DOS prompt, cd to 
the LyX bin directory, and run 'lyx -dbg key'.  In LyX, start a new 
document.  Make a note of where the messages in the DOS window left off. 
 Now press a punctuation key and see what new messages you get.  To 
give you an idea, here's what I get by hitting the period key:



Setting key to 46, .
KeySym is period
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 46
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state) action first set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state)action now set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state) Key [action=86][.]
Cannot decode: .
SelfInsert arg[`.']


Possibly something in the output will help determine what's going on at 
your end.


/Paul

Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 

It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 

It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)

Anyone have any ideas?



 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Michael Wojcik]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 


It sounds like they're being treated as dead keys, but why this would 
suddenly be happening in only one application on Windows (per the rest 
of your note, which I snipped) I don't know.  But input-method handling 
in Windows is a little tricky, since (as with so many other things) 
Windows tries to be helpful and will muck about with settings as you 
change focus from one application to another, if it has a mind to.


(I've seen it switch between the US-English and UK-English keyboard 
layout in this manner, for example.)


Here are a couple of things to try:

- In LyX, try typing eg 'e (apostrophe, then e).  Do you get an e with 
an accute accent?  If so, then the apostrophe key is being treated as a 
dead key, which would explain why you have to strike it twice to get 
just an apostrophe.


- Show the language bar (right-click on the Windows taskbar, select 
Toolbars | Language Bar).  If you don't have the Language Bar option, 
that probably means you have Advanced Text Services disabled, in which 
case I don't know what the problem might be.  (Advanced Text Services is 
controlled by the Regional and Language Options control panel, Languages 
tab, Details button.)  When you have the Language Bar visible, see if it 
changes when you switch focus between LyX and other applications where 
the keyboard works as expected.


--
Michael Wojcik

Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

 Do you get an e with an accute accent?  

Yep.

 


 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Paul A. Rubin]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 


It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)



At least two other people have reported adventures with keyboards.  In 
one case, certain letter keys were being interpreted as if they were in 
combination with the Alt key.


It might be interesting to try the following.  Open a DOS prompt, cd to 
the LyX bin directory, and run 'lyx -dbg key'.  In LyX, start a new 
document.  Make a note of where the messages in the DOS window left off. 
 Now press a punctuation key and see what new messages you get.  To 
give you an idea, here's what I get by hitting the period key:



Setting key to 46, .
KeySym is period
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 46
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state) action first set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state)action now set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptrclass LyXKeySym,
enum key_modifier::state) Key [action=86][.]
Cannot decode: .
SelfInsert arg[`.']


Possibly something in the output will help determine what's going on at 
your end.


/Paul

Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 

It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 

It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)

Anyone have any ideas?



 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Michael Wojcik]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 


It sounds like they're being treated as dead keys, but why this would 
suddenly be happening in only one application on Windows (per the rest 
of your note, which I snipped) I don't know.  But input-method handling 
in Windows is a little tricky, since (as with so many other things) 
Windows tries to be "helpful" and will muck about with settings as you 
change focus from one application to another, if it has a mind to.


(I've seen it switch between the US-English and UK-English keyboard 
layout in this manner, for example.)


Here are a couple of things to try:

- In LyX, try typing eg 'e (apostrophe, then "e").  Do you get an e with 
an accute accent?  If so, then the apostrophe key is being treated as a 
dead key, which would explain why you have to strike it twice to get 
just an apostrophe.


- Show the language bar (right-click on the Windows taskbar, select 
Toolbars | Language Bar).  If you don't have the "Language Bar" option, 
that probably means you have Advanced Text Services disabled, in which 
case I don't know what the problem might be.  (Advanced Text Services is 
controlled by the Regional and Language Options control panel, Languages 
tab, Details button.)  When you have the Language Bar visible, see if it 
changes when you switch focus between LyX and other applications where 
the keyboard works as expected.


--
Michael Wojcik

Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Robert Orr]

> Do you get an e with an accute accent?  

Yep.

 


 

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Re: Keyboard punctuation not working - have to double press to input punctuation chars

[Paul A. Rubin]

Robert Orr wrote:
I have a strange problem with my LyX keyboard entry.  
 


It seems that I have to double enter the punctuation
characters on the keyboard.   The first press has no
effect, the character appears on screen only after the
second press. 

Has anyone else seen this? 


It seems it just started after I upgraded from 1.3.5
to 1.4.3.-5 version of LyX.I'm using it on Windows
XP and I only have this problem with LyX (i.e. Word
pad, etc. are fine)



At least two other people have reported adventures with keyboards.  In 
one case, certain letter keys were being interpreted as if they were in 
combination with the Alt key.


It might be interesting to try the following.  Open a DOS prompt, cd to 
the LyX bin directory, and run 'lyx -dbg key'.  In LyX, start a new 
document.  Make a note of where the messages in the DOS window left off. 
 Now press a punctuation key and see what new messages you get.  To 
give you an idea, here's what I get by hitting the period key:



Setting key to 46, .
KeySym is period
isOK is 1
isMod is 0
encoding is iso8859-1
Using codec ISO 8859-1
ISOEncoded returning value 46
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptr,
enum key_modifier::state) action first set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptr,
enum key_modifier::state)action now set to [86]
void __thiscall LyXFunc::processKeySym(class boost::shared_ptr,
enum key_modifier::state) Key [action=86][.]
Cannot decode: .
SelfInsert arg[`.']


Possibly something in the output will help determine what's going on at 
your end.


/Paul

Re: at the press!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

 Dear LyXers,
 
 The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
 uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
 LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
 corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
 respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
 400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
 files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
 Linux-PC.
 
 We used the following packages:
 KOMA-Script Book
 amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the 
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications

(I just rememered to add my thesis to the list...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: at the press!

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications


Christian,

  I added my book to it. Also, Bruce Momjian's PostgreSQL book of a couple of
years ago was written using LyX.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: at the press!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

 Dear LyXers,
 
 The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
 uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
 LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
 corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
 respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
 400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
 files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
 Linux-PC.
 
 We used the following packages:
 KOMA-Script Book
 amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the 
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications

(I just rememered to add my thesis to the list...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: at the press!

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications


Christian,

  I added my book to it. Also, Bruce Momjian's PostgreSQL book of a couple of
years ago was written using LyX.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: at the press!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

> Dear LyXers,
> 
> The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
> uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
> LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
> corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
> respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
> 400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
> files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
> Linux-PC.
> 
> We used the following packages:
> KOMA-Script Book
> amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the 
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications

(I just rememered to add my thesis to the list...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: at the press!

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you like, you can add an entry to this page, letting the rest of the
world know!

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProducedPublications


Christian,

  I added my book to it. Also, Bruce Momjian's PostgreSQL book of a couple of
years ago was written using LyX.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of "Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic"
 Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

at the press!

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear LyXers,

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
Linux-PC.

We used the following packages:
KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

And your help.

Many thanks to all of you!

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: at the press!

[Herbert Voss]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 


I did this also in the past, but nowadays I send only
the PDF file, which is in general about 10-20% of the
PS file size. Makes life easier ... :-)


KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.


sugfigure is superseeded by subfig

Herbert

at the press!

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear LyXers,

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
Linux-PC.

We used the following packages:
KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

And your help.

Many thanks to all of you!

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: at the press!

[Herbert Voss]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 


I did this also in the past, but nowadays I send only
the PDF file, which is in general about 10-20% of the
PS file size. Makes life easier ... :-)


KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.


sugfigure is superseeded by subfig

Herbert

at the press!

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear LyXers,

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 
uploaded to the printer's server and my double-book (English/German) 
LyX project is done. We got proofs back  this week, made some minor 
corrections to the master LyX files (version nos. 162 and 169 
respectively) and I uploaded the PS output this evening. Each is about 
400 pages, with roughly 95 illustrations, toc, lof, and index. The 
files were edited by two people using LyX 1.3.5 on a Mac and a 
Linux-PC.

We used the following packages:
KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.

And your help.

Many thanks to all of you!

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: at the press!

[Herbert Voss]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:

The last MB of the two 222-MB (compressed) postscript files was just 


I did this also in the past, but nowadays I send only
the PDF file, which is in general about 10-20% of the
PS file size. Makes life easier ... :-)


KOMA-Script Book
amsmath, crop, soul, ellipsis, scrpage2, babel, tocloft, and subfigure.


sugfigure is superseeded by subfig

Herbert

Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):

 ... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
 error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
 to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
 version, OS, etc.
 Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.

Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?

-Kevin



-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


 


... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
version, OS, etc.
Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.
   



Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
I have written a book in LyX, but I sent the publisher a pdf directly.
There is a package for cropmarks, which publishers like to have.
There are three different ways of making pdf in lyx, which work with
varying success.  The fastest is pdflatex, the slowest is pdf.
Both tends to work well.  The middle option, dvipdfm, produced
a pdf that didn't work in the publishers acrobat on windows. It was
ok in acrobat on linux though.

So if they have problems with the PDF file itself, have them try
a different way of making pdf.

To get the latex version, use the command
latex --version

For font information, load the pdf into acrobat which have the menu
file-document properties-fonts
It will show you what fonts the pdf uses.

I have never heard of the double bookmarks. Are you using the
hyperref package, which makes pdf bookmarks? I am not sure that
this matters at all if the book is to be printed, but could be a problem
if you're also publishing as pdf.

Helge Hafting

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Helge Hafting writes:
 They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!

The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.

Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?

 I have never heard of the double bookmarks. 

I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference 
that is apparently defined twice in my document.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Martin A. Hansen]

have they requested a word document yet?

it will happen ...


martin,

devils advocate

On 15/12/05, Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helge Hafting writes:
  They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!

 The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to
 give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the
 images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image
 plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of
 the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able
 to do this.

 Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in
 LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The
 press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the
 pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images
 (which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?

  I have never heard of the double bookmarks.

 I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference
 that is apparently defined twice in my document.

 Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at
 the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I
 don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).

 -Kevin

 --
 Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that I
have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. Today
I got back the following comments after they looked at a small sample of
our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with LyX and LaTeX
and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


Kevin,

  When I sent the production-ready copy of my book to Springer I made a
tarball of all the TeX files produced from the LyX text (including the
pdflatex output): .pdf, .tex, .sty, .cls, .ist, etc. And, all the figures as
.eps files. Of course, LaTeX is a preferred submittal format for them, but
this gave them all the material to use as they needed.

  You might try this route, too.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Helge Hafting writes:
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
   



The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.


Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?
 


Also consider using blank figures (of correct size) if they plan on
printing illustrations with a different press/technology.
Then they can print the pdf as-is, and proceed to print
figures into the blank captioned areas. With low-res figures, they
have to remove the low-res stuff first.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).
 


This is cool.  A few publishers take pdf (if you're capable of laying
everything out perfectly yourself), a few take latex, this is the first 
time I

hear about one taking a lyx file.  This way, they can make corrections
themselves if need be.  I had to clear up a few hundred misplaced
commas, other spelling issues as well as layout when making my pdf, having
the publisher work on the lyx file is much more efficient.  But they have
to be willing to learn something new.

Helge Hafting

Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):

 ... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
 error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
 to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
 version, OS, etc.
 Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.

Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?

-Kevin



-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


 


... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
version, OS, etc.
Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.
   



Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
I have written a book in LyX, but I sent the publisher a pdf directly.
There is a package for cropmarks, which publishers like to have.
There are three different ways of making pdf in lyx, which work with
varying success.  The fastest is pdflatex, the slowest is pdf.
Both tends to work well.  The middle option, dvipdfm, produced
a pdf that didn't work in the publishers acrobat on windows. It was
ok in acrobat on linux though.

So if they have problems with the PDF file itself, have them try
a different way of making pdf.

To get the latex version, use the command
latex --version

For font information, load the pdf into acrobat which have the menu
file-document properties-fonts
It will show you what fonts the pdf uses.

I have never heard of the double bookmarks. Are you using the
hyperref package, which makes pdf bookmarks? I am not sure that
this matters at all if the book is to be printed, but could be a problem
if you're also publishing as pdf.

Helge Hafting

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Helge Hafting writes:
 They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!

The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.

Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?

 I have never heard of the double bookmarks. 

I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference 
that is apparently defined twice in my document.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Martin A. Hansen]

have they requested a word document yet?

it will happen ...


martin,

devils advocate

On 15/12/05, Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helge Hafting writes:
  They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!

 The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to
 give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the
 images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image
 plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of
 the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able
 to do this.

 Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in
 LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The
 press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the
 pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images
 (which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?

  I have never heard of the double bookmarks.

 I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference
 that is apparently defined twice in my document.

 Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at
 the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I
 don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).

 -Kevin

 --
 Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that I
have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. Today
I got back the following comments after they looked at a small sample of
our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with LyX and LaTeX
and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


Kevin,

  When I sent the production-ready copy of my book to Springer I made a
tarball of all the TeX files produced from the LyX text (including the
pdflatex output): .pdf, .tex, .sty, .cls, .ist, etc. And, all the figures as
.eps files. Of course, LaTeX is a preferred submittal format for them, but
this gave them all the material to use as they needed.

  You might try this route, too.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Helge Hafting writes:
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
   



The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original deal (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.


Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?
 


Also consider using blank figures (of correct size) if they plan on
printing illustrations with a different press/technology.
Then they can print the pdf as-is, and proceed to print
figures into the blank captioned areas. With low-res figures, they
have to remove the low-res stuff first.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).
 


This is cool.  A few publishers take pdf (if you're capable of laying
everything out perfectly yourself), a few take latex, this is the first 
time I

hear about one taking a lyx file.  This way, they can make corrections
themselves if need be.  I had to clear up a few hundred misplaced
commas, other spelling issues as well as layout when making my pdf, having
the publisher work on the lyx file is much more efficient.  But they have
to be willing to learn something new.

Helge Hafting

Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):

> ... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
> error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
> to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
> version, OS, etc.
> Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.

Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?

-Kevin



-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Dear Listler,

After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that 
I have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. 
Today I got back the following comments after they looked at a small 
sample of our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with 
LyX and LaTeX and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


 


... we were able to produce a PDF with this file, but there were some
error messages which need to be cleared up. Ideal would be
to know the system environment, fonts, LyX version, LaTex
version, OS, etc.
Additionally we got error messages about double bookmarks.
   



Do these notes trigger any warning signs from those of you who have 
already gone done this path?
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
I have written a book in LyX, but I sent the publisher a pdf directly.
There is a package for cropmarks, which publishers like to have.
There are three different ways of making pdf in lyx, which work with
varying success.  The fastest is "pdflatex", the slowest is "pdf".
Both tends to work well.  The middle option, "dvipdfm", produced
a pdf that didn't work in the publishers acrobat on windows. It was
ok in acrobat on linux though.

So if they have problems with the PDF file itself, have them try
a different way of making pdf.

To get the latex version, use the command
latex --version

For font information, load the pdf into acrobat which have the menu
file->document properties->fonts
It will show you what fonts the pdf uses.

I have never heard of the double bookmarks. Are you using the
hyperref package, which makes pdf bookmarks? I am not sure that
this matters at all if the book is to be printed, but could be a problem
if you're also publishing as pdf.

Helge Hafting

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Helge Hafting writes:
> They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!

The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original "deal" (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.

Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?

> I have never heard of the double bookmarks. 

I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference 
that is apparently defined twice in my document.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Martin A. Hansen]

have they requested a word document yet?

it will happen ...


martin,

devils advocate

On 15/12/05, Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Helge Hafting writes:
> > They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
>
> The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to
> give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the
> images, etc. My original "deal" (and preference) is that the image
> plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of
> the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able
> to do this.
>
> Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in
> LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The
> press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the
> pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images
> (which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?
>
> > I have never heard of the double bookmarks.
>
> I think I solved this (by checking my own log). There is a reference
> that is apparently defined twice in my document.
>
> Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at
> the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I
> don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).
>
> -Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tiros-Translations
>

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


After a vacation and hiatus I am back on the list. The book project that I
have been working on (forever, it seems) will soon go to the printer. Today
I got back the following comments after they looked at a small sample of
our LyX file (the publisher's designer was unfamiliar with LyX and LaTeX
and passed my sample file along directly to the printer):


Kevin,

  When I sent the production-ready copy of my book to Springer I made a
tarball of all the TeX files produced from the LyX text (including the
pdflatex output): .pdf, .tex, .sty, .cls, .ist, etc. And, all the figures as
.eps files. Of course, LaTeX is a preferred submittal format for them, but
this gave them all the material to use as they needed.

  You might try this route, too.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of "Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic"
 Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Back in the list, going soon to press

[Helge Hafting]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:


Helge Hafting writes:
 


They actually took a lyx file?  Interesting!
   



The problem is that there are numerous illustrations. I would prefer to 
give them just the PDF, but then I have to get involved in placing the 
images, etc. My original "deal" (and preference) is that the image 
plates are printed separately and tipped together into the middle of 
the book before binding, but I don't know yet if they are willing/able 
to do this.


Or, what about this (if it has to be): I lay out the illustrations in 
LyX with captions, etc. and use a low-res version of each image. The 
press (if they generate their own PDF) then modifies the 
pathname/filenames for the images as needed so that the final images 
(which need to be prepped by them, I think) are then substituted?
 


Also consider using blank figures (of correct size) if they plan on
printing illustrations with a different press/technology.
Then they can print the pdf as-is, and proceed to print
figures into the blank captioned areas. With low-res figures, they
have to remove the low-res stuff first.

Thanks for the other tips; I'm now in direct contact with a developer at 
the press and he seems very eager to make this work (thank God -- I 
don't think very many art history books are typeset with LaTeX or LyX).
 


This is cool.  A few publishers take pdf (if you're capable of laying
everything out perfectly yourself), a few take latex, this is the first 
time I

hear about one taking a lyx file.  This way, they can make corrections
themselves if need be.  I had to clear up a few hundred misplaced
commas, other spelling issues as well as layout when making my pdf, having
the publisher work on the lyx file is much more efficient.  But they have
to be willing to learn something new.

Helge Hafting

lyx in the press

[Herbert Voss]

for the statistics:

LyX - Open Source Document Processor
APL-Journal (Germany), 1/2001, p.29 - 43
http://www.rhombos.de/apljourn.htm

download as pdf is possible

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

lyx in the press

[Herbert Voss]

for the statistics:

LyX - Open Source Document Processor
APL-Journal (Germany), 1/2001, p.29 - 43
http://www.rhombos.de/apljourn.htm

download as pdf is possible

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

lyx in the press

[Herbert Voss]

for the statistics:

LyX - Open Source Document Processor
APL-Journal (Germany), 1/2001, p.29 - 43
http://www.rhombos.de/apljourn.htm

download as pdf is possible

Herbert


-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

LyX in the press!

[Adrian Ball]

This month's Linux User magazine just arrived on my doorstep, in it was a
pretty complementary article about LyX :)
It is online at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/ - but January's edition doesn't
appear to be online yet.  Watch that space.

--
Adrian Ball - Technical Consultant  || Tel: 07050 688565
|| Fax: 07020 965488
 Sun Professional Services  || Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Major Data Services Ltd   || Text message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LyX in the press!

[Adrian Ball]

This month's Linux User magazine just arrived on my doorstep, in it was a
pretty complementary article about LyX :)
It is online at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/ - but January's edition doesn't
appear to be online yet.  Watch that space.

--
Adrian Ball - Technical Consultant  || Tel: 07050 688565
|| Fax: 07020 965488
 Sun Professional Services  || Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Major Data Services Ltd   || Text message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LyX in the press!

[Adrian Ball]

This month's Linux User magazine just arrived on my doorstep, in it was a
pretty complementary article about LyX :)
It is online at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/ - but January's edition doesn't
appear to be online yet.  Watch that space.

--
Adrian Ball - Technical Consultant  || Tel: 07050 688565
|| Fax: 07020 965488
 Sun Professional Services  || Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Major Data Services Ltd   || Text message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good press

[Redvers Davies]

For those that are interested:

http://www.insidedenver.com/seebach/0418seeba.shtml

"If I start using LyX," Peter said, "sooner or later there will be
some feature I want, and I'll write it and send it to them.
Everybody does that, that's how it's supposed to work".

"And in five years, Microsoft will be saying, 'Word is a
program with all the features of LyX."'

Regards,


Red

Good press

[Redvers Davies]

For those that are interested:

http://www.insidedenver.com/seebach/0418seeba.shtml

"If I start using LyX," Peter said, "sooner or later there will be
some feature I want, and I'll write it and send it to them.
Everybody does that, that's how it's supposed to work".

"And in five years, Microsoft will be saying, 'Word is a
program with all the features of LyX."'

Regards,


Red

Good press

[Redvers Davies]

For those that are interested:

http://www.insidedenver.com/seebach/0418seeba.shtml

"If I start using LyX," Peter said, "sooner or later there will be
some feature I want, and I'll write it and send it to them.
Everybody does that, that's how it's supposed to work".

"And in five years, Microsoft will be saying, 'Word is a
program with all the features of LyX."'

Regards,


Red