Re: memoir class no seen?
Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marc Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of
Marc support one wants.
Marc The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want
Marc supported in the interim.
Marc No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically
Marc allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are
Marc presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth
Marc that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX
Marc could have full support.
What I had in minds is constructs that one cannot obtain in the
document itself without resorting to ERT. One such feature I know of
is the second optional argument to things like section
\section[title for toc][title for header]{title}
This would not be too difficult to implement, but it requires some
work in the LyX code.
Marc Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with
Marc Memoir.
Which is also a good solution :)
JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marc Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of
Marc support one wants.
Marc The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want
Marc supported in the interim.
Marc No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically
Marc allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are
Marc presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth
Marc that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX
Marc could have full support.
What I had in minds is constructs that one cannot obtain in the
document itself without resorting to ERT. One such feature I know of
is the second optional argument to things like section
\section[title for toc][title for header]{title}
This would not be too difficult to implement, but it requires some
work in the LyX code.
Marc Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with
Marc Memoir.
Which is also a good solution :)
JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
> "Marc" == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marc> Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of
Marc> support one wants.
Marc> The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want
Marc> supported in the interim.
Marc> No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically
Marc> allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are
Marc> presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth
Marc> that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX
Marc> could have full support.
What I had in minds is constructs that one cannot obtain in the
document itself without resorting to ERT. One such feature I know of
is the second optional argument to things like section
\section[title for toc][title for header]{title}
This would not be too difficult to implement, but it requires some
work in the LyX code.
Marc> Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with
Marc> Memoir.
Which is also a good solution :)
JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marc I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm Marc hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but Marc until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Monday 05 July 2004 01:20 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of support one wants. The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want supported in the interim. No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX could have full support. Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with Memoir. For other work that I know LyX works well with I can just fire LyX up and get to writing. -Marc P.S. As a general observation I would say that while LyX makes LaTeX more painless it tends to give the impression one never needs to know any LaTeX commands in order to get work don which isn't the case. Example is the preamble and dealing with package configurations along-side adding custom commands or overriding pre-existing class commands. That I know is something too vague for LyX to make into a simplified approach. Learning LaTeX for me gives me a better understanding of how much LyX does for someone who doesn't want to learn LaTeX. Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marc I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm Marc hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but Marc until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marc I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm Marc hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but Marc until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Monday 05 July 2004 01:20 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of support one wants. The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want supported in the interim. No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX could have full support. Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with Memoir. For other work that I know LyX works well with I can just fire LyX up and get to writing. -Marc P.S. As a general observation I would say that while LyX makes LaTeX more painless it tends to give the impression one never needs to know any LaTeX commands in order to get work don which isn't the case. Example is the preamble and dealing with package configurations along-side adding custom commands or overriding pre-existing class commands. That I know is something too vague for LyX to make into a simplified approach. Learning LaTeX for me gives me a better understanding of how much LyX does for someone who doesn't want to learn LaTeX. Marc == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marc I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm Marc hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but Marc until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
> "Marc" == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm Marc> hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but Marc> until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? JMarc
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Monday 05 July 2004 01:20 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Like the entire class itself or nothing at all is the sort of support one wants. The class is just too in-depth to say which features I'd want supported in the interim. No worries here. I'd imagine the fact that Memoir basically allows one to override everything from TOC to how Bibs are presented to hanging paragraphs, to lists, so on and so forth that it would take a considerable amount of time before LyX could have full support. Personally, I have no problem using Kile in conjunction with Memoir. For other work that I know LyX works well with I can just fire LyX up and get to writing. -Marc P.S. As a general observation I would say that while LyX makes LaTeX more painless it tends to give the impression one never needs to know any LaTeX commands in order to get work don which isn't the case. Example is the preamble and dealing with package configurations along-side adding custom commands or overriding pre-existing class commands. That I know is something too vague for LyX to make into a simplified approach. Learning LaTeX for me gives me a better understanding of how much LyX does for someone who doesn't want to learn LaTeX. > > "Marc" == Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marc> I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm > Marc> hoping LyX 1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but > Marc> until than I use Kile when working with Memoir. > > As far as I can see, better support for memoir is not going to happen > in 1.4.0. What are the features that you are missing most? > > JMarc
memoir class no seen?
Howdy --
I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the missing
memoir class?
Details:
Slackware Linux-9.0
La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
(Re)ran texhash, but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
(Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type drop down list.
If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to \textclass
{memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities appear in the the
drop downlist?
Any ideas,
David
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Sunday 04 July 2004 03:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The current support for the Memoir class within LyX is extremely limited.
I'm currently writing my novel not in LyX while utilizing the Memoir class
just writing straight LaTeX and the Kile LaTeX Editor for KDE.
You need to download the Memoir package from CTAN and do the following:
Either sudo or su - :
1. Change to the local texmf directory where you can store your add-on latex
packages not officially part of one of the distributions.
Example:
Platform: Debian Linux
Local Path: /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Path : /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/memoir
Read the README instructions Mr. Wilson provides for Memoir. Once those
options are done than change directory to the top of your local tex
repository:
Path: /usr/local/share/texmf
Run texhash and let it regenerate the ls-R listing.
Run vi/vim/pico/less/more or whatever editor you want to view the contents of
ls-R and verify that memoir and its directory have been added to your
listing.
Running LyX's Reconfigure will make it aware of the ls-R changes.
Here is the Crux: LyX doesn't have full support for the Memoir Package--it's
quite extensive.
Solution: Either except utilizing the ERT command to fill in LaTeX commands
explicitly which don't always work for Memoir or run Kile or another
TeX/LaTeX editor using Memoir.
I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm hoping LyX
1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but until than I use Kile
when working with Memoir.
-Marc
P.S. If you need more questions asked I'll be more than happy wherever I can
help. Oh and read the Memoir PDF documentation along with the Companion
because it will help clarify much. The TUG Indian Group's tutorials are an
excellent source of information as well.
Howdy --
I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the
missing memoir class?
Details:
Slackware Linux-9.0
La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
(Re)ran texhash, but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
(Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type drop down list.
If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to
\textclass {memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities
appear in the the drop downlist?
Any ideas,
David
memoir class no seen?
Howdy --
I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the missing
memoir class?
Details:
Slackware Linux-9.0
La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
(Re)ran texhash, but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
(Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type drop down list.
If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to \textclass
{memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities appear in the the
drop downlist?
Any ideas,
David
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Sunday 04 July 2004 03:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The current support for the Memoir class within LyX is extremely limited.
I'm currently writing my novel not in LyX while utilizing the Memoir class
just writing straight LaTeX and the Kile LaTeX Editor for KDE.
You need to download the Memoir package from CTAN and do the following:
Either sudo or su - :
1. Change to the local texmf directory where you can store your add-on latex
packages not officially part of one of the distributions.
Example:
Platform: Debian Linux
Local Path: /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Path : /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/memoir
Read the README instructions Mr. Wilson provides for Memoir. Once those
options are done than change directory to the top of your local tex
repository:
Path: /usr/local/share/texmf
Run texhash and let it regenerate the ls-R listing.
Run vi/vim/pico/less/more or whatever editor you want to view the contents of
ls-R and verify that memoir and its directory have been added to your
listing.
Running LyX's Reconfigure will make it aware of the ls-R changes.
Here is the Crux: LyX doesn't have full support for the Memoir Package--it's
quite extensive.
Solution: Either except utilizing the ERT command to fill in LaTeX commands
explicitly which don't always work for Memoir or run Kile or another
TeX/LaTeX editor using Memoir.
I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm hoping LyX
1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but until than I use Kile
when working with Memoir.
-Marc
P.S. If you need more questions asked I'll be more than happy wherever I can
help. Oh and read the Memoir PDF documentation along with the Companion
because it will help clarify much. The TUG Indian Group's tutorials are an
excellent source of information as well.
Howdy --
I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the
missing memoir class?
Details:
Slackware Linux-9.0
La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
(Re)ran texhash, but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
(Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type drop down list.
If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to
\textclass {memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities
appear in the the drop downlist?
Any ideas,
David
memoir class no seen?
Howdy --
I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the missing
memoir class?
Details:
Slackware Linux-9.0
La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
(Re)ran "texhash", but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
(Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type "drop down list".
If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to \textclass
{memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities appear in the the
drop downlist?
Any ideas,
David
Re: memoir class no seen?
On Sunday 04 July 2004 03:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The current support for the Memoir class within LyX is extremely limited.
I'm currently writing my novel not in LyX while utilizing the Memoir class
just writing straight LaTeX and the Kile LaTeX Editor for KDE.
You need to download the Memoir package from CTAN and do the following:
Either sudo or su - :
1. Change to the local texmf directory where you can store your add-on latex
packages not officially part of one of the distributions.
Example:
Platform: Debian Linux
Local Path: /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex
Memoir Path : /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/memoir
Read the README instructions Mr. Wilson provides for Memoir. Once those
options are done than change directory to the top of your local tex
repository:
Path: /usr/local/share/texmf
Run texhash and let it regenerate the ls-R listing.
Run vi/vim/pico/less/more or whatever editor you want to view the contents of
ls-R and verify that memoir and its directory have been added to your
listing.
Running LyX's Reconfigure will make it aware of the ls-R changes.
Here is the Crux: LyX doesn't have full support for the Memoir Package--it's
quite extensive.
Solution: Either except utilizing the ERT command to fill in LaTeX commands
explicitly which don't always work for Memoir or run Kile or another
TeX/LaTeX editor using Memoir.
I find Kile quite excellent and the 1.7a1 I'm running great. I'm hoping LyX
1.4 or possibly 1.5 will have full Memoir support but until than I use Kile
when working with Memoir.
-Marc
P.S. If you need more questions asked I'll be more than happy wherever I can
help. Oh and read the Memoir PDF documentation along with the Companion
because it will help clarify much. The TUG Indian Group's tutorials are an
excellent source of information as well.
> Howdy --
> I searched and read the list archive, and didn't find the answer to the
> missing memoir class?
>
> Details:
> Slackware Linux-9.0
> La(Tex) installed under: /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex
> Memoir Class files (*.cls,etc) under latex/base (no memoir subdirecty).
> (Re)ran "texhash", but no memoir files showed up in ls-R file?
> (Re)ran lyx configuration script, and memoir class = yes
>
> Yet memior class still isn't showing up as document type "drop down list".
> If I edit my *.lyx document by hand and change \textclass {book} to
> \textclass {memoir), restart Lyx(1.3.3) all the memior text properities
> appear in the the drop downlist?
>
> Any ideas,
>
> David
