web search>jabref>lyx

2009-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
This might have been overlooked because of bad timing (saturday).
May I try again?

Slightly off topic, but somebody might know:

I am using JabRef to push my references into a LyX-written book.
Lets say, I have my references in ref.bib and want to search for references in 
the web concerning 
circadian obesity sleep and 2008

So I press F5 (WebSearch and Search Medline) in JabRef
get a Medline Tab 
and insert
circadian obesity sleep 2008
which would give me 48 references

to reduce the number, I include review:
circadian obesity sleep review 2008
which gives me 48 references

In order to select the only reference I am interested in,
namely Laposky  
I remove the rest before and after this reference 

by using cut and paste with the mouse 
(##question1: is there an easier way? did not find any##)

generate a bibtex-key (knob)
and press ok

The reference is now in ref.bib

However, instead of 
Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..
as desired, 

I get
Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
without comma and points, and the prenames in front 

##Question 2: is there a way to get it correct at this stage or before?##

I save the entered reference in JabRef by control s
(if not done now I won't see the ref in the lyx file immediately)

and push the citation into the Lyx file (pressing the LyX knob or control l)

The citation is giving troubles when trying to export the LyX file, 
and I have to fix the author line first, which is cumbersome if there are many 
authors and prone to introduce errors

I am sorry for this lengthy mail, but wanted to describe it in a way which is 
easily reproducible.

I would appreciate help, 
and thanks a lot in advance

Wolfgang


Re: web search>jabref>lyx

2009-02-03 Thread rgheck

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

The reference is now in ref.bib

However, instead of 
Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..
as desired, 


I get
Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
without comma and points, and the prenames in front 


##Question 2: is there a way to get it correct at this stage or before?##

  
I'd just leave it that way. Some reference formats might require the 
full name, and BibTeX will give you the abbreviated version if your 
BibTeX style calls for it.



I save the entered reference in JabRef by control s
(if not done now I won't see the ref in the lyx file immediately)
and push the citation into the Lyx file (pressing the LyX knob or control l)

The citation is giving troubles when trying to export the LyX file, 
and I have to fix the author line first, which is cumbersome if there are many 
authors and prone to introduce errors


  

What errors?

rh



Re: web search>jabref>lyx

2009-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 17:10:10 you wrote:

Thanks, for your answer. But...
> Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > The reference is now in ref.bib
> >
> > However, instead of
> > Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..
> > as desired,
> >
> > I get
> > Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
> > without comma and points, and the prenames in front
> >
> > ##Question 2: is there a way to get it correct at this stage or before?##
>
> I'd just leave it that way. Some reference formats might require the
> full name, and BibTeX will give you the abbreviated version if your
> BibTeX style calls for it.

see below
>
> > I save the entered reference in JabRef by control s
> > (if not done now I won't see the ref in the lyx file immediately)
> > and push the citation into the Lyx file (pressing the LyX knob or control
> > l)
> >
> > The citation is giving troubles when trying to export the LyX file,
> > and I have to fix the author line first, which is cumbersome if there are
> > many authors and prone to introduce errors
>
> What errors?

I get
Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
without comma and points, and the prenames in front

but BibTeX needs 
Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..

Wolfgang


Re: web search>jabref>lyx

2009-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> I get
> Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
> without comma and points, and the prenames in front
>
> but BibTeX needs
> Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..

Not quite true. Bibtex is able to parse the first version, the only problem is 
the missing dot after the "D" initial.

In general, I would second Richard's advice: Abbreviation of names is the job 
of the style file, the bib file should always contain full names.

Jürgen


Re: web search>jabref>lyx

2009-02-03 Thread curtis osterhoudt
Indeed. The way that Jabref imports the reference is to put curly-braces around 
each of the fields, {}, so that BiBTeX isn't allowed to parse them at all. So 
far as I know, whatever reference style is chosen, it will not be any different 
than what Wolfgang got. 

   It looks to me as either a problem with the original reference, or a problem 
in the way JabRef imported this particular one. In either case, you'll have to 
somehow remove those curly braces, to let BiBTeX do its job. 

 /
Down with categorical imperative!
flutz...@yahoo.com
/





From: Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>
To: LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:39:32 AM
Subject: Re: web  search>jabref>lyx

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 17:10:10 you wrote:

Thanks, for your answer. But...
> Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > The reference is now in ref.bib
> >
> > However, instead of
> > Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..
> > as desired,
> >
> > I get
> > Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
> > without comma and points, and the prenames in front
> >
> > ##Question 2: is there a way to get it correct at this stage or before?##
>
> I'd just leave it that way. Some reference formats might require the
> full name, and BibTeX will give you the abbreviated version if your
> BibTeX style calls for it.

see below
>
> > I save the entered reference in JabRef by control s
> > (if not done now I won't see the ref in the lyx file immediately)
> > and push the citation into the Lyx file (pressing the LyX knob or control
> > l)
> >
> > The citation is giving troubles when trying to export the LyX file,
> > and I have to fix the author line first, which is cumbersome if there are
> > many authors and prone to introduce errors
>
> What errors?

I get
Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
without comma and points, and the prenames in front

but BibTeX needs 
Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..

Wolfgang



  

web search>jabref>lyx

2009-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Slightly off topic, but somebody might know:

I am using JabRef to push my references into a LyX-written book.
Lets say, I have my references in ref.bib and want to search for references in 
the web concerning 
circadian obesity sleep and 2008

So I press F5 (WebSearch and Search Medline) in JabRef
get a Medline Tab 
and insert
circadian obesity sleep 2008
which would give me 48 references

to reduce the number, I include review:
circadian obesity sleep review 2008
which gives me 48 references

In order to select the only reference I am interested in,
namely Laposky  
I remove the rest before and after this reference 

by using cut and paste with the mouse 
(##question1: is there an easier way? did not find any##)

generate a bibtex-key (knob)
and press ok

The reference is now in ref.bib

However, instead of 
Laposky, A. D. and Bass, J. ..
as desired, 

I get
Aaron D Laposky and Joseph Bass ...
without comma and points, and the prenames in front 

##Question 2: is there a way to get it correct at this stage or before?##

I save the entered reference in JabRef by control s
(if not done now I won't see the ref in the lyx file immediately)

and push the citation into the Lyx file (pressing the LyX knob or control l)

The citation is giving troubles when trying to export the LyX file, 
and I have to fix the author line first, which is cumbersome if there are many 
authors and prone to introduce errors

I am sorry for this lengthy mail, but wanted to describe it in a way which is 
easily reproducible.

I would appreciate help, 
and thanks a lot in advance

Wolfgang