insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Bert Douglas 
Greetings !

I just started trying to use lyx.  Compiled from source.  Have version 2.0.3
Brand new document.  One page long.
All defaults.
Make a table.
Type some names in a column.
Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.

After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

I am not doing anything special.
This seems like a pretty major bug.
Is it just me ?  Or are other people having same problems ?

I looked in the bug tracker(lyx.org/trac) and didn't see anything recent with 
this kind of symptom.

Thanks much,
Bert Douglas

Re: insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2012/5/6 Bert Douglas:
 Brand new document.  One page long.
 All defaults.
 Make a table.
 Type some names in a column.
 Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.

 After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
 I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

Please post a small example file that shows this problem.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello,

excuse me for jumping a bit late into this thread...but we are seriously
considering to use LyX as our 'markup tool of the choise instead of
AsciiDoc or resT/Sphinx.

Few days ago we hit a problem whne wanting to produce floating image
(wrap text around lef/right-aligned image) and it seems that it's not
possible to do it using neither FOP nor bblatex AsciiDoc backends.

In the reST/Sphinx arena, we came to know that rst2pdf cannot do it as
well (due to limit in Reportlab), which leaves as only with reST/Sphinx.

Otoh, we're able to quickly produce desired effect in LyX which makes us
thing to give up on both AsciiDoc and reST/Sphinx and simply use LyX.

 Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
 HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the 
 document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
 either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
 else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
 files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
 distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?

Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
But for one who takes pleasure in the self, whose human life 
is one of self-realization, and who is satisfied in the self only, 
fully satiated — for him there is no duty.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
Hi Gour,

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
 XHTML output with navigation links?


You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation links.
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html
You can download it from the front page:
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/index.html

Thanks,

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
 links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html

Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
(maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
converter.


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
He who is regulated in his habits of eating, sleeping, recreation 
and work can mitigate all material pains by practicing the yoga system.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

  You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
  links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html

 Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
 (maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
 converter.


If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
just duplicating the feature(s) ?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Richard Heck 

On 05/06/2012 09:06 AM, Gour wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heckrgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the
document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?


The output is mostly driven by layout files, which is what LyX uses
also in the case of LaTeX output to know what to do with a section
heading. So we have e.g. in stdsections.inc:

Style Section
Category  Section
MarginDynamic
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  section
TocLevel  1
LatexType Command
LatexName section

HTMLTag   h2
End

Some of this concerns appearance in LyX itself; some concerns the
LaTeX output; the last bit is XHTML info. Of course, the appearance of
the h2 tag itself can be customized via CSS. That information can also
be put into the layout file, if you wish. See e.g. stdstruct.inc.


Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


This is on the To-Do list. I'm hoping to get to it early in the summer. It
won't be hard, but it'll take a bit of time to get right.

Richard

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

  If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

 Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
 just duplicating the feature(s) ?


Hard for me to say since I am not involved with the internal converter, but
I gather it is not there yet in many respects.

Alex.

insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Bert Douglas 
Greetings !

I just started trying to use lyx.  Compiled from source.  Have version 2.0.3
Brand new document.  One page long.
All defaults.
Make a table.
Type some names in a column.
Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.

After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

I am not doing anything special.
This seems like a pretty major bug.
Is it just me ?  Or are other people having same problems ?

I looked in the bug tracker(lyx.org/trac) and didn't see anything recent with 
this kind of symptom.

Thanks much,
Bert Douglas

Re: insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2012/5/6 Bert Douglas:
 Brand new document.  One page long.
 All defaults.
 Make a table.
 Type some names in a column.
 Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.

 After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
 I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

Please post a small example file that shows this problem.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello,

excuse me for jumping a bit late into this thread...but we are seriously
considering to use LyX as our 'markup tool of the choise instead of
AsciiDoc or resT/Sphinx.

Few days ago we hit a problem whne wanting to produce floating image
(wrap text around lef/right-aligned image) and it seems that it's not
possible to do it using neither FOP nor bblatex AsciiDoc backends.

In the reST/Sphinx arena, we came to know that rst2pdf cannot do it as
well (due to limit in Reportlab), which leaves as only with reST/Sphinx.

Otoh, we're able to quickly produce desired effect in LyX which makes us
thing to give up on both AsciiDoc and reST/Sphinx and simply use LyX.

 Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
 HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the 
 document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
 either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
 else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
 files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
 distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?

Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
But for one who takes pleasure in the self, whose human life 
is one of self-realization, and who is satisfied in the self only, 
fully satiated — for him there is no duty.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
Hi Gour,

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
 XHTML output with navigation links?


You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation links.
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html
You can download it from the front page:
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/index.html

Thanks,

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
 links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html

Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
(maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
converter.


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
He who is regulated in his habits of eating, sleeping, recreation 
and work can mitigate all material pains by practicing the yoga system.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

  You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
  links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html

 Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
 (maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
 converter.


If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
just duplicating the feature(s) ?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Richard Heck 

On 05/06/2012 09:06 AM, Gour wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heckrgh...@comcast.net  wrote:

Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the
document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?


The output is mostly driven by layout files, which is what LyX uses
also in the case of LaTeX output to know what to do with a section
heading. So we have e.g. in stdsections.inc:

Style Section
Category  Section
MarginDynamic
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  section
TocLevel  1
LatexType Command
LatexName section

HTMLTag   h2
End

Some of this concerns appearance in LyX itself; some concerns the
LaTeX output; the last bit is XHTML info. Of course, the appearance of
the h2 tag itself can be customized via CSS. That information can also
be put into the layout file, if you wish. See e.g. stdstruct.inc.


Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


This is on the To-Do list. I'm hoping to get to it early in the summer. It
won't be hard, but it'll take a bit of time to get right.

Richard

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:

 On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

  If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

 Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
 just duplicating the feature(s) ?


Hard for me to say since I am not involved with the internal converter, but
I gather it is not there yet in many respects.

Alex.

insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Bert Douglas 
Greetings !

I just started trying to use lyx.  Compiled from source.  Have version 2.0.3
Brand new document.  One page long.
All defaults.
Make a table.
Type some names in a column.
Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.

After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

I am not doing anything special.
This seems like a pretty major bug.
Is it just me ?  Or are other people having same problems ?

I looked in the bug tracker(lyx.org/trac) and didn't see anything recent with 
this kind of symptom.

Thanks much,
Bert Douglas

Re: insert index entry -- get spurious group closing symbol

2012-05-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2012/5/6 Bert Douglas:
> Brand new document.  One page long.
> All defaults.
> Make a table.
> Type some names in a column.
> Then insert index entry after names, using cut and paste of name into index.
>
> After doing this I get message about spurious group closing symbol.
> I look in file, and the nesting of layout and inset is crossed up.

Please post a small example file that shows this problem.

Thanks,
Jürgen

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heck  wrote:

Hello,

excuse me for jumping a bit late into this thread...but we are seriously
considering to use LyX as our 'markup tool of the choise" instead of
AsciiDoc or resT/Sphinx.

Few days ago we hit a problem whne wanting to produce floating image
(wrap text around lef/right-aligned image) and it seems that it's not
possible to do it using neither FOP nor bblatex AsciiDoc backends.

In the reST/Sphinx arena, we came to know that rst2pdf cannot do it as
well (due to limit in Reportlab), which leaves as only with reST/Sphinx.

Otoh, we're able to quickly produce desired effect in LyX which makes us
thing to give up on both AsciiDoc and reST/Sphinx and simply use LyX.

> Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
> HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the 
> document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
> either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
> else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
> files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
> distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?

Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
But for one who takes pleasure in the self, whose human life 
is one of self-realization, and who is satisfied in the self only, 
fully satiated — for him there is no duty.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
Hi Gour,

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Gour  wrote:

> Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
> XHTML output with navigation links?
>

You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation links.
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html
You can download it from the front page:
  http://elyxer.nongnu.org/index.html

Thanks,

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
Alex Fernandez  wrote:

> You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
> links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html

Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
(maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
converter.


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
He who is regulated in his habits of eating, sleeping, recreation 
and work can mitigate all material pains by practicing the yoga system.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810


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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Gour  wrote:

> On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:49:41 +0200
> Alex Fernandez  wrote:
>
> > You can try eLyXer, which does output paged content with navigation
> > links. http://elyxer.nongnu.org/userguide.html
>
> Thank you. It works OK. I knew about it, but considered that it is
> (maybe) obsolete considering that LyX now ships with its own LyXHTML
> converter.
>

If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Alex.

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Gour 
On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
Alex Fernandez  wrote:

> If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)

Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
just duplicating the feature(s) ?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Richard Heck 

On 05/06/2012 09:06 AM, Gour wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:43:38 -0400
Richard Heck  wrote:

Regarding the visual appearance, then, I should say that LyX's own
HTML output and elyxer *both* pretty exclusively use CSS to style the
document. So one can in fact change the appearance quite easily,
either by editing the CSS manually, once the file's been exported, or
else by using the usual customization methods within LyX: layout
files, modules, local layout, and so forth. So it's worth
distinguishing these two issues.

I do not want to say that LyXHTML output is ugly, but we wonder where to
find more info how to customize output to come close to the output
generated by bith AsciiDoc as well as Sphinx?


The output is mostly driven by layout files, which is what LyX uses
also in the case of LaTeX output to know what to do with a section
heading. So we have e.g. in stdsections.inc:

Style Section
Category  Section
MarginDynamic
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  section
TocLevel  1
LatexType Command
LatexName section

HTMLTag   h2
End

Some of this concerns appearance in LyX itself; some concerns the
LaTeX output; the last bit is XHTML info. Of course, the appearance of
the h2 tag itself can be customized via CSS. That information can also
be put into the layout file, if you wish. See e.g. stdstruct.inc.


Moreover, we're curios if LyXHTML can be configured to produce chunked
XHTML output with navigation links?


This is on the To-Do list. I'm hoping to get to it early in the summer. It
won't be hard, but it'll take a bit of time to get right.

Richard

Re: LyXHTML Visual Appearance

2012-05-06 Thread Alex Fernandez 
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Gour  wrote:

> On Sun, 6 May 2012 20:31:52 +0200
> Alex Fernandez  wrote:
>
> > If it works for you, then it is not obsolete! :)
>
> Sure...just wonder what is the objective of 'internal' converter if not
> just duplicating the feature(s) ?
>

Hard for me to say since I am not involved with the internal converter, but
I gather it is not there yet in many respects.

Alex.