Re: [M100] fig-FORTH
> > I don't know offhand of any HEX loaders that load from the serial port > but that just means I haven't needed one. ;-) > I found that CHANGE.BA will save and load hex files to and from the serial port. I’ve carved out the bit of code that loads files, and I’m experimenting with that now. smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE
Re: [M100] fig-FORTH
Yes, one day, if I can acquire a REX, that will be the first ROM image I will try to install. Here’s hoping I can get a REX! Thanks, smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Feb 2, 2019, at 2:46 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > You might want to look at MForth, source code is available. It's a fast ANS > forth and runs from ROM. > > You could use it to find the info you want to port fig forth or even better, > if you have a REX or rom burner, extend it. It would be nice to have some > more wordsets or a maybe compiler to produce stand alone CO files that could > be distributed without the ROM. > > http://www.strangegizmo.com/products/mforth/ > <http://www.strangegizmo.com/products/mforth/> > > -- John. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 8:39 AM Stephen Pereira <mailto:stephen.m.pereira...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > One of the things that I’ve done a number of times is to get the original > fig-FORTH running on my vintage computers. I have it running on my CP/M > machines, my SWTPC (clone from Corsham Tech), and my Tandy Color Computer. > > I would very much like to get it to go on my new-to-me Model 102. > > There are two things that I need: > > - What are the calls into the Model 102 ROM for doing keyboard input and > screen output? > > - Since the fig-FORTH file will be quite large, I’ll be looking to assemble > it on another computer and then send the Intel hex file into the Model 102. > I would love to get a program similar to HEXLDR, that reads a true Intel hex > file - BUT I need it to have the file sent in to it via the serial I/O port, > rather than reading it from a .DO file. This is because my 32K machine does > not have enough memory to hold the hex file in a .DO file, and have the > HEXLDR program, and clear enough memory to load the fig-FORTH into, all at > the same time. > > Any thoughts , advice, or assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > smp > - - - > Stephen Pereira > Bedford, NH 03110 > KB1SXE > >
[M100] fig-FORTH
Hello all, One of the things that I’ve done a number of times is to get the original fig-FORTH running on my vintage computers. I have it running on my CP/M machines, my SWTPC (clone from Corsham Tech), and my Tandy Color Computer. I would very much like to get it to go on my new-to-me Model 102. There are two things that I need: - What are the calls into the Model 102 ROM for doing keyboard input and screen output? - Since the fig-FORTH file will be quite large, I’ll be looking to assemble it on another computer and then send the Intel hex file into the Model 102. I would love to get a program similar to HEXLDR, that reads a true Intel hex file - BUT I need it to have the file sent in to it via the serial I/O port, rather than reading it from a .DO file. This is because my 32K machine does not have enough memory to hold the hex file in a .DO file, and have the HEXLDR program, and clear enough memory to load the fig-FORTH into, all at the same time. Any thoughts , advice, or assistance would be greatly appreciated! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE
Re: [M100] Brand new member
My apologies to you all for wasting your time - I found the file labeled as SETUP250.EXE. It did not catch my eye before. Sorry for the hassle! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Feb 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Stephen Pereira > wrote: > > >> If you're using Windows and don't have Rex you should use Kurt's MComm >> program. It will help you inject TEENY and get started quickly. >> >> He shares it in his personal libraries on Club 100. >> > > Hello folks, > > I’m looking for the program called MComm for Windows. I was pointed to the > Club100 web site, but the files in the Kurt McCullum area do not seem to have > this one any more. There is a folder for MComm for Android, and there is a > terrific manual for MComm for Windows, but I cannot find the actual MComm for > Windows file. > > Am I missing something? Please help if you can. > > Thanks for listening! > > smp > - - - > Stephen Pereira > Bedford, NH 03110 > KB1SXE > >
Re: [M100] Brand new member
> If you're using Windows and don't have Rex you should use Kurt's MComm > program. It will help you inject TEENY and get started quickly. > > He shares it in his personal libraries on Club 100. > Hello folks, I’m looking for the program called MComm for Windows. I was pointed to the Club100 web site, but the files in the Kurt McCullum area do not seem to have this one any more. There is a folder for MComm for Android, and there is a terrific manual for MComm for Windows, but I cannot find the actual MComm for Windows file. Am I missing something? Please help if you can. Thanks for listening! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE
Re: [M100] Brand new member
> To be fair, it is in the docs for xmodem.ba and xmdpw.ba that they only > support transferring ASCII files.. ;-) OK. I went back over the docs, and I finally found the sentence that said the file must be an ASCII file… I guess, since I had read that you need to use an XMODEM program to make the transfer of a .CO file, and I found the XMODEM programs in the Library, then I made the assumption that I’d hit pay dirt. I guess I’ve again learned about making assumptions… Thanks again! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE
Re: [M100] Brand new member
Oh, crap! The serial device path… Starting with Mac OS Mohave (10.14.x) Apple has now built in the driver for my Prolific USB-to-serial device. That means it no longer shows up in /DEV as a plug & play device, Mac OS just takes care of it. All this to say that I don’t know what the path to my serial device is any more. I also have Parallels, and I can run my Windows XP virtual machine. Would that work? In Windows XP, my USB-to-serial device shows up as COM4. What do I need to run your Laddie on Windows XP? smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Jan 27, 2019, at 5:23 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 2:20 PM Stephen Pereira > mailto:stephen.m.pereira...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > Hi John, and thanks very much for your reply! > > With Mono, do I have to build anything, or would I install it and use it to > run Laddie? > > You know, like: prompt> MONO LADDIE.EXE > > I’ll take a look at the web site and Wili. > > > That's pretty much it. You don't have to compile it. > > But you do need to tell it the serial device path. > > -- John.
Re: [M100] Brand new member
Hi John, and thanks very much for your reply! With Mono, do I have to build anything, or would I install it and use it to run Laddie? You know, like: prompt> MONO LADDIE.EXE I’ll take a look at the web site and Wili. Thanks! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:40 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 11:43 AM Stephen Pereira > mailto:stephen.m.pereira...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > I use a Macintosh MacBook Pro laptop as my computer, so on the laptop side, > I’ll need a drive emulator that will work on the latest Mac OS X 10.14.3. > > Thanks again for your attention! > > > I'll let others respond about Rex. > > For the mac, if you are willing to install Mono, you can use LaddieAlpha. I > wrote and support that. > > If you prefer compiling a C program you can use DLPlus. I am more likely to > update LaddieAlpha than DLPlus, since LaddieAlpha runs on WIndows, Linux, > Mac. > > All are available via http://bitchin100.com <http://bitchin100.com/> or the > http://bitchin100.com/wiki <http://bitchin100.com/wiki> > > -- John.
Re: [M100] Brand new member
Hi John, and thanks very much for the welcome. I get it: “If possible, acquire a REX.” How do I go about that? Does anyone on the list make them anymore, or does anyone on the list have a stash of them, that they might like to sell one? Please let me know ASAP! I’m ready to purchase! I use a Macintosh MacBook Pro laptop as my computer, so on the laptop side, I’ll need a drive emulator that will work on the latest Mac OS X 10.14.3. Thanks again for your attention! smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Jan 27, 2019, at 1:40 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > Welcome Stephen! > > If possible acquire a REX. It will come with the best DOS, TSDOS in ROM. > > There is really only one type of rex available right now for 100/102. > > What kind of computer do you have? That will dictate the tpdd service to use. > > -- John. > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 8:58 AM Stephen Pereira <mailto:stephen.m.pereira...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello folks, > > This past week, I became the proud owner of a Tandy Model 102 in excellent > shape - 32K RAM, and Multiplan in the Option Socket. > > For the past few days, I’ve been familiarizing myself with it. I can attach > to a terminal emulator on my laptop, and I’ve been able to transfer ASCII .BA > files into the M102 as .DO files, load them into BASIC, and see them go. I > am aware of both the Club 100 site and the Bitchin 100 site, and I am trying > my best to learn about what options might still be available for extending my > machine. > > Recently, while lurking here on the list, I saw the mention of something > called CPM REX that may actually be coming out soon? Please tell me more! > > I am quite confused about the things I see, like Rex, Remem, Sardine, NADS, > and so many DOSs! > > Much of the information I’m seeing seems to be made for folks who already > know what’s going on, so It’s been difficult for me to tell what way I may > want to go - and of course if that device is actually still available any > more. > > So here’s my first call for help: Can anyone point me to a concise > description of what system extensions are actually still available, and what > they do? Also, if it may be best to wait a bit and simply go with that CPM > REX? Thanks in advance. > > In the back of my mind, I wanted to try out machine language… I found that > one can transfer .CO files using XMODEM. Yesterday, I spent time pulling in > a couple of the XMODEM.BA <http://xmodem.ba/> programs from the Club 100 > Telecom Library, and got them each to go. I then attached to my terminal > emulator that has XMODEM transfer capability and I thought that I’d be all > set, but no. The first thing I tried was to transfer XMODEM.CO > <http://xmodem.co/> back up to my laptop, but when I gave the file name to > XMODEM, it abruptly cancelled the upload. The same thing with both of the > XMODEM programs that I tried. I was able to transfer ASCII files using one > of the other encodings, so I know that I had a good setup. I’m not doing > something right, but I cannot figure out what it might be. > > FYI, the two programs I pulled from the Club 100 Library were: XMODEM.BA > <http://xmodem.ba/> and XMDPW5.BA <http://xmdpw5.ba/>. I was able to > transfer each of them into my system, and then run the .BA program to create > the .CO program. then running the .CO program was wht gave me the problem in > both cases. > > Thanks in advance for any advice or pointers that you may have to offer! > > smp > - - - > Stephen Pereira > Bedford, NH 03110 > KB1SXE > >
