Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brad Grier]

Wow, that's a lot of canuck-bucks for untested equipment.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 8:05 PM Josh Malone  wrote:

> No kidding! I made an utterly pointless bid at 10 mins to go and was
> outbid immediately.
>
> *grumble* didn't need that one anyway *grumble*
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 10:02 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow that went like crazy in the last few seconds!
>>
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022, Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY
>>>
>>> On a brighter note
>>>
>>

-- 
-- 
Brad Grier

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Josh Malone]

No kidding! I made an utterly pointless bid at 10 mins to go and was outbid
immediately.

*grumble* didn't need that one anyway *grumble*

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 10:02 PM Stephen Adolph 
wrote:

> Wow that went like crazy in the last few seconds!
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022, Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY
>>
>> On a brighter note
>>
>

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Stephen Adolph]

Wow that went like crazy in the last few seconds!

On Thursday, November 17, 2022, Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1;
> mkrid=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624&
> ssuid=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY
>
> On a brighter note
>

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Jerry Davis]

Good for you.  Pass it on.  They will appreciate it because it meant
something to you.

Jerry

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 5:04 PM  wrote:

> The computer looka good. With a case,disk drive and cables this looks like
> a good purchaae. The battery holder on this model slides into a pocket on
> the side. I had three of them until recently and enjoyed them a lot. All of
> my toys are now in the hands of my son in law and grandson.
> Fred Whitaker
>
> Sent from MailDroid <https://goo.gl/ODgwBb>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M100 Librarian 
> To: "m...@bitchin100.com" 
> Sent: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)
>
> electronics aside, I'm amazed at the shipping price. Seems unrealistic.
> --
> *From:* M100  on behalf of Brad Grier <
> b...@bradgrier.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2022 2:53 AM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] (no subject)
>
> That's a great looking unit! If I were looking to buy I'd consider it. An
> interesting package.
>
> I noticed a few minor things ... can't see the battery compartment. I'd
> get the seller to send a photo of the battery compartment, as well as
> inside the other underside (modem) compartment. It also looks like the
> polarizing filter is starting to lift from the LCD -- I'm fixing mine this
> winter with that same issue. No power supply for the drive? But it does
> have the cardboard transport insert :) I wonder if the belt has gone
> gummy...
>
> Still, if I were in the market for a possible project unit, I'd consider
> it.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:33 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY
>
> On a brighter note
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Brad Grier
>
>
>

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[rrtfw6923]

The computer looka good. With a case,disk drive and cables this looks like a 
good purchaae. The battery holder on this model slides into a pocket on the 
side. I had three of them until recently and enjoyed them a lot. All of my toys 
are now in the hands of my son in law and grandson.
Fred Whitaker

Sent from MailDroid

-Original Message-
From: M100 Librarian 
To: "m...@bitchin100.com" 
Sent: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)

electronics aside, I'm amazed at the shipping price. Seems unrealistic.

From: M100  on behalf of Brad Grier 

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 2:53 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)

That's a great looking unit! If I were looking to buy I'd consider it. An 
interesting package.

I noticed a few minor things ... can't see the battery compartment. I'd get the 
seller to send a photo of the battery compartment, as well as inside the other 
underside (modem) compartment. It also looks like the polarizing filter is 
starting to lift from the LCD -- I'm fixing mine this winter with that same 
issue. No power supply for the drive? But it does have the cardboard transport 
insert :) I wonder if the belt has gone gummy...

Still, if I were in the market for a possible project unit, I'd consider it.



On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:33 PM Stephen Adolph 
mailto:twospru...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY

On a brighter note


--
--
Brad Grier

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[M100 Librarian]

electronics aside, I'm amazed at the shipping price. Seems unrealistic.

From: M100  on behalf of Brad Grier 

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 2:53 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)

That's a great looking unit! If I were looking to buy I'd consider it. An 
interesting package.

I noticed a few minor things ... can't see the battery compartment. I'd get the 
seller to send a photo of the battery compartment, as well as inside the other 
underside (modem) compartment. It also looks like the polarizing filter is 
starting to lift from the LCD -- I'm fixing mine this winter with that same 
issue. No power supply for the drive? But it does have the cardboard transport 
insert :) I wonder if the belt has gone gummy...

Still, if I were in the market for a possible project unit, I'd consider it.



On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:33 PM Stephen Adolph 
mailto:twospru...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY

On a brighter note


--
--
Brad Grier

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brad Grier]

That's a great looking unit! If I were looking to buy I'd consider it. An
interesting package.

I noticed a few minor things ... can't see the battery compartment. I'd get
the seller to send a photo of the battery compartment, as well as inside
the other underside (modem) compartment. It also looks like the polarizing
filter is starting to lift from the LCD -- I'm fixing mine this winter with
that same issue. No power supply for the drive? But it does have the
cardboard transport insert :) I wonder if the belt has gone gummy...

Still, if I were in the market for a possible project unit, I'd consider
it.



On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 7:33 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY
>
> On a brighter note
>


-- 
-- 
Brad Grier

[M100] (no subject)

[Stephen Adolph]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125605198509?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=KIRv0wNRSty=2349624=UdOsFOYySKy=_ver=artemis=COPY

On a brighter note

[M100] (no subject)

[Reo PDA]

I put 3 model 100s on Ebay that I think are unique. The pictures there are
interesting anyway. All 3 were used at 'The Record', a newspaper in
Hackensack New Jersey. I purchased them from ebay many years ago as 'not
working'. I thought they would be great projects. But when I took out the
old crusty batteries, cleaned the contacts, and put new batteries in, they
all worked! The keyboards feel a little soft to me. I think I removed
dental rings from the keyboard on at least one of them, wish I had left it
alone now. Nothing was in the Option ROM sockets on any of these machines.

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Charles Hudson]

John H.  wrote:

"Oh, good.

I went to the librom page and didn't see it. Guess I should have dug deeper.
And apparently the outliner is called THOUGHT not THINK. Memory fail...


-- John."

I was surprised to find LUCID among the contents of the ROM.  I have a
copy of LUCID 3D for DOS that I have used for years.  I'm supposing
this is a precursor.  Looking forward to finding out more...

-CH-

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Steve Baker]

This is fantastic — thanks!

> That would be,
> 
> http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S
>  
> 

I will download and setup the rom2s1.do file later today. This community 
continues to amaze me with how much has been done and made available for folks 
to use. Thanks!!

For transfers I’ve been using mComm 2.5 as my go-to TPDD emulator, run inside 
Windows emulated with Parallels on my Mac, using a USB to RS232 cable adapter. 
I do have a working TPDD1 which I use on occasion for floppy backups, but for 
day to day activity, saving and sending files back and forth, etc. I use the 
above setup. (One of these days I’ll explore the Mac-native options, but this 
works well and I’m in the emulator every so often for work stuff anyway, so 
it’s convenient enough and it’s rock solid.)

Again, thanks!
Steve

--
Greetings from Steve Baker
“Gravity brings me down…”



> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Brian White  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 9:29 AM Steve Baker  > wrote:
> Hello again, and thanks for your response!
> 
>> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the 
>> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.
> 
> This sounds awesome… I ordered one and it should arrive by Monday, and I look 
> forward to learning how to use this tool and find out how to grab the image!
> 
>> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You 
>> either need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a 
>> DIP test clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to 
>> hold the free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200 
>> read it and copy it out to the serial port.
> 
> 
> This also sounds awesome — especially by using software to have the T102 read 
> it and copy it out to the serial port. What software in particular should I 
> use?
> 
> 
> That would be,
> 
> http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S
>  
> 
> 
> And the serial cable:
> http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Serial_Cable 
> 
> 
> And a serial terminal app on a modern pc. For Windows I'd say probably 
> TeraTerm 
> https://osdn.net/projects/ttssh2/releases/ 
> 
> On linux I use minicom. I'd probably use minicom on mac too though I don't 
> know if there's something more convenient on mac.
> 
> I apologize, this could use a bit more help and direction than "use this comm 
> program" but that'll have to be later.
> 
> I think there might be an app that writes directly to a file via TPDD too, 
> instead of using a terminal program to capture plain text. I might be 
> inventing that, I'll have to look around. That wouldn't be necessarily fewer 
> or easier steps just different. But it would mean setting up a tpdd emulator 
> and installing a tpdd client on the t102, which is just a handy thing you're 
> going to want in general anyway. 
> 
> -- 
> bkw
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Again, thanks!
> Steve
> 
> --
> Greetings from Steve Baker
> “Gravity brings me down…”
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Brian K. White > > wrote:
>> 
>> On 12/16/20 8:02 PM, Steve Baker wrote:
>>> Cool, happy to help with the exploration!
>>> Just getting into the hardware side of things, and I don’t have a NEC to 
>>> try out the R2/Clu chip. Thoughts on how I could dump this? Or a gadget I 
>>> could order to help me do that?
>> 
>> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the 
>> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/233816729184 
>> The software is free and easy. (or at least, I could tell you what to do 
>> exactly.)
>> 
>> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You 
>> either need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a 
>> DIP test clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to 
>> hold the free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200 
>> read it and copy it out to the serial port.
>> 
>>> Or I mail it to someone who would know what to do with it? (I have a small 
>>> set of operational T102s, two non-functional T200s, and an awesome T. WP-2, 
>>> but alas no NECs.
>> I would do it. But I would also walk you through using the TL-866 if you 
>> want to try getting into that.
>> 
>>> Any thoughts on the Gold v7.10 chip? Is that of any interest? I would be 
>>> happy to install that into a T102 and see what happens when I call 63012, 
>>> in the name of science!
>> 
>> -- 
>> bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brian White]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 9:29 AM Steve Baker  wrote:

> Hello again, and thanks for your response!
>
> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the
> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.
>
>
> This sounds awesome… I ordered one and it should arrive by Monday, and I
> look forward to learning how to use this tool and find out how to grab the
> image!
>
> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You
> either need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a
> DIP test clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to
> hold the free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200
> read it and copy it out to the serial port.
>
>
> This also sounds awesome — especially by using software to have the T102
> read it and copy it out to the serial port. What software in particular
> should I use?
>


That would be,

http://club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S

And the serial cable:
http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Serial_Cable

And a serial terminal app on a modern pc. For Windows I'd say probably
TeraTerm
https://osdn.net/projects/ttssh2/releases/
On linux I use minicom. I'd probably use minicom on mac too though I don't
know if there's something more convenient on mac.

I apologize, this could use a bit more help and direction than "use this
comm program" but that'll have to be later.

I think there might be an app that writes directly to a file via TPDD too,
instead of using a terminal program to capture plain text. I might be
inventing that, I'll have to look around. That wouldn't be necessarily
fewer or easier steps just different. But it would mean setting up a tpdd
emulator and installing a tpdd client on the t102, which is just a handy
thing you're going to want in general anyway.

-- 
bkw




> Again, thanks!
> Steve
>
> --
> Greetings from Steve Baker
> “Gravity brings me down…”
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Brian K. White  wrote:
>
> On 12/16/20 8:02 PM, Steve Baker wrote:
>
> Cool, happy to help with the exploration!
> Just getting into the hardware side of things, and I don’t have a NEC to
> try out the R2/Clu chip. Thoughts on how I could dump this? Or a gadget I
> could order to help me do that?
>
>
> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the
> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/233816729184
> The software is free and easy. (or at least, I could tell you what to do
> exactly.)
>
> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You
> either need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a
> DIP test clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to
> hold the free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200
> read it and copy it out to the serial port.
>
> Or I mail it to someone who would know what to do with it? (I have a small
> set of operational T102s, two non-functional T200s, and an awesome T. WP-2,
> but alas no NECs.
>
> I would do it. But I would also walk you through using the TL-866 if you
> want to try getting into that.
>
> Any thoughts on the Gold v7.10 chip? Is that of any interest? I would be
> happy to install that into a T102 and see what happens when I call 63012,
> in the name of science!
>
>
> --
> bkw
>
>
>

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Steve Baker]

Hello again, and thanks for your response!

> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the 
> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.

This sounds awesome… I ordered one and it should arrive by Monday, and I look 
forward to learning how to use this tool and find out how to grab the image!

> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You either 
> need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a DIP test 
> clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to hold the 
> free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200 read it and 
> copy it out to the serial port.


This also sounds awesome — especially by using software to have the T102 read 
it and copy it out to the serial port. What software in particular should I use?

Again, thanks!
Steve

--
Greetings from Steve Baker
“Gravity brings me down…”



> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Brian K. White  wrote:
> 
> On 12/16/20 8:02 PM, Steve Baker wrote:
>> Cool, happy to help with the exploration!
>> Just getting into the hardware side of things, and I don’t have a NEC to try 
>> out the R2/Clu chip. Thoughts on how I could dump this? Or a gadget I could 
>> order to help me do that?
> 
> For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the 
> 100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/233816729184
> The software is free and easy. (or at least, I could tell you what to do 
> exactly.)
> 
> For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You either 
> need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or get a DIP test 
> clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 socket just to hold the 
> free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to have the M100/200 read it and 
> copy it out to the serial port.
> 
>> Or I mail it to someone who would know what to do with it? (I have a small 
>> set of operational T102s, two non-functional T200s, and an awesome T. WP-2, 
>> but alas no NECs.
> I would do it. But I would also walk you through using the TL-866 if you want 
> to try getting into that.
> 
>> Any thoughts on the Gold v7.10 chip? Is that of any interest? I would be 
>> happy to install that into a T102 and see what happens when I call 63012, in 
>> the name of science!
> 
> -- 
> bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brian K. White]

On 12/16/20 8:02 PM, Steve Baker wrote:

Cool, happy to help with the exploration!

Just getting into the hardware side of things, and I don’t have a NEC to 
try out the R2/Clu chip. Thoughts on how I could dump this? Or a gadget 
I could order to help me do that?


For any NEC rom (meaning, does NOT need a pinout adapter like all the 
100/102/200 roms do) you could get a bare TL-866 from ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233816729184
The software is free and easy. (or at least, I could tell you what to do 
exactly.)


For any of the 100/102/200 roms it gets a little more complicated. You 
either need to be able to remove the chip from the pinout adapter, or 
get a DIP test clip (28 or more pins) (and some wires and a DIP-28 
socket just to hold the free ends of the 28 wires), or use software to 
have the M100/200 read it and copy it out to the serial port.


Or I mail it to someone who would know what to do with it? (I have a 
small set of operational T102s, two non-functional T200s, and an awesome 
T. WP-2, but alas no NECs.
I would do it. But I would also walk you through using the TL-866 if you 
want to try getting into that.


Any thoughts on the Gold v7.10 chip? Is that of any interest? I would be 
happy to install that into a T102 and see what happens when I call 
63012, in the name of science!


--
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brian K. White]

Oh!, so it's Disk+ as in 1.0!

I don't think that has been archived yet so it would be good to do so if 
you could.


--
bkw

On 12/16/20 7:31 PM, Steve Baker wrote:

Hi folks, long time-first time and all that! ;-)

Here are the oddball chips I have in my parts and accessories box, 
including Disk+. I’m happy to figure out how to get these extracted if 
anyone’s curious.


ROM2/Cleuseau is already out there, and the others are probably already 
available too?


Thanks,
Steve

--
Greetings from Steve Baker
“Gravity brings me down...”





On Dec 16, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Scott McDonnell 
 wrote:




Brian,

The “4” was misleading. It is just the way that the font looks. It 
just says Disk+, not sure what version but it is probably the 2.0 that 
you have. What is really odd is everything I have read about it so far 
says it came on cassettes and nothing about an option ROM at all.


I wouldn’t have any grief about dumping what I have, though. I don’t 
imagine anyone is lacking the Interactive Solutions ROM that I also have?


I am actually more excited that I have the custom carriers for the 
option ROMs than the ROMs themselves. Ultimately I am looking to build 
my own custom option ROM as I have an end use for this in mind that 
will give it a relatively single purpose.


Scott M.

*From: *Brian K. White <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:43 PM
*To: *M100 List <mailto:m100@lists.bitchin100.com>
*Subject: *Re: [M100] (no subject)

I have a Disk+ 2.0 rom I dumped here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhU01uYjFYNnpkTmM

I would be interested in that "4" version. It can be dumped via software

from the 100 using ROM2S

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S

Does anyone have the host side of this? The description in that ad

sounds like a modified DOS bootable TPDD emulator, or had versions for

various machines not just ms-dos. Modified at least in so far as using

.SD in place of .<> for instance.

I did try the Disk+2.0 rom with a real TPDD2 and it didn't work. At the

time I didn't have a TPDD1 and I just assumed maybe it predates TPDD2

and only works with TPDD1. I have a TPDD1 now and should try it just to

see, but now it looks like maybe it didn't work because it's using it's

own protocol?

--

bkw

On 12/16/20 4:35 PM, Tom Wilson wrote:

> Page 19

>

> https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf

> <https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf>

>

>

> Tom Wilson

> wilso...@gmail.com <mailto:wilso...@gmail.com>

> (619)940-6311

> K6ABZ

>

>

> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell

> mailto:mcdonnell.j...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>

> I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that

> I am going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about

> this one.)

>

> __ __

>

> Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit

> had the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a

> ROM in it with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+

> after calling it. I cannot find any other information about this

> ROM. It appears to be a RAM file system manager of sorts? But it

> also appears to interact with the serial port for some reason (maybe

> to offload and download files from another computer?).

>

>     __ __

>

> Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it

> beyond calling it (It is Call 63012)

>

> __ __

>

> Thanks!

>

> __ __

>

> Scott McDonnell

>

> __ __

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

> __ __

>

--

bkw




--
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brian K. White]

On 12/16/20 5:57 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote:
I am actually more excited that I have the custom carriers for the 
option ROMs than the ROMs themselves. Ultimately I am looking to build 
my own custom option ROM as I have an end use for this in mind that will 
give it a relatively single purpose.

The carrier won't do you too much good most likely.
The socket has a non-standard pinout, and so most roms and definitely 
any chip you can write (27C256), needs a pinout adapter as well as a way 
to make the physical connection.


You could make use of the adapter if one of these is true:

* You have a DIP-28 (or larger) test clip AND the pinout adapter doesn't 
hard short the VPP pin to VCC or GND. I think they all do. If it had a 
10k+ resistor instead of a trace, then it would be ok, but no commercial 
rom maker did that that I ever saw. If the adapter hard-shorts vpp, then 
you need to desolder the chip from the adapter to write it, or at least 
cut the vpp leg and add a resistor and removable jumper to the adapter 
somehow.


* Or unless one of your adapters is a "ROMBO", like this:
https://goo.gl/photos/AaqKUGoY6oGEZdxM6

Otherwise I expect the Disk+ one at least, if not both, is the same as this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SN7qC3BXXBFX7bMg7

There is another style like this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zRyssWsAuXTAWHwV6

And finally there is the Multiplan style where Tandy actually had custom 
chips made that had the right pinout, so they are just installed in the 
Molex carrier normally. But those chips are special. You can't do that 
with a 27C256.


Otherwise in all cases except the ROMBO, the chip legs are either bent 
around the standard carrier or soldered into a pinout adapter pcb. 
Either way it makes it a problem to write the rom more than once. Even 
for the style that doesn't need soldering, you can't bend and unbend the 
legs very many times before one breaks.


If you have a rombo style, then the 27C256 can be installed and removed 
and reinstalled in the adapter as many times as you want without bending 
the legs, so you can remove the chip from the pinout adapter to re-write 
the chip all you want.


You're going to want to get a REX#, REXCPM, REX Classic, or make a 
Teeprom, if you want to play with writing and hacking on roms.


REX is like a software controllable, software loadable, on-board option 
rom library. REXCPM is that plus the amazing ability to replace the 
normal system rom with CPM and up to 4M of virtual disk. (all purely in 
ram though so it's kind of touchy vs REX Classic or REX# which are flash 
based)



REX# or REX Classic would be the hands-down most convenient way to play 
with roms. You load them as ordinary files from a modern pc over the 
serial port, and load up to 32 of the and overwrite them all you want. 
No burner, no uv eraser.


Teeprom needs a burner and a soic-28 test clip, but at least no uv 
eraser because the rom chip is 28C256 instead of 27C256. It DOES have a 
resistor instead of a dead short for vpp so it can be simply connected 
to the a burner and written at will. There are a few odd cases where you 
want a plain rom and not a REX, but honestly not many.


REXCPM , REX#
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rex

REX Classic (buy)
https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/store/#!/REX-with-holder/p/177952983/category=28313042

REX Classic (build your own)
http://tandy.wiki/Building_a_REX

Also, for REX Classic, this board provides a good way to use the 
software main rom feature that only REX Classic has:
It provides a main rom on a updateable 28C256, so you could install a 
y2k-patched version, but the real point is it provides a convenient way 
to hook up the /CE line for REX to take over the job of providing the 
main rom, but also let's you remove the REX and re-enable the internal 
rom without taking the machine apart again.

http://tandy.wiki/FlexROM_100

And for a plain rom:
http://tandy.wiki/Teeprom

If you still wanted some of the carriers knowing about the pinout 
problem, I have a bunch and you can have some.

You can also buy them new 3d-printed.
http://shpws.me/QgAT

--
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Steve Baker]

Cool, happy to help with the exploration!

Just getting into the hardware side of things, and I don’t have a NEC to try 
out the R2/Clu chip. Thoughts on how I could dump this? Or a gadget I could 
order to help me do that?

Or I mail it to someone who would know what to do with it? (I have a small set 
of operational T102s, two non-functional T200s, and an awesome T. WP-2, but 
alas no NECs.)

Any thoughts on the Gold v7.10 chip? Is that of any interest? I would be happy 
to install that into a T102 and see what happens when I call 63012, in the name 
of science!

Cheers,
SB

--
Greetings from Steve Baker
“Gravity brings me down...”


> On Dec 16, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it would be worthwhile to know the version number of Rom2/Cleuseau.
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 7:31 PM Steve Baker  wrote:
>> Hi folks, long time-first time and all that! ;-)
>> 
>> Here are the oddball chips I have in my parts and accessories box, including 
>> Disk+. I’m happy to figure out how to get these extracted if anyone’s 
>> curious.
>> 
>> ROM2/Cleuseau is already out there, and the others are probably already 
>> available too?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>> 
>> --
>> Greetings from Steve Baker
>> “Gravity brings me down...”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Scott McDonnell  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The “4” was misleading. It is just the way that the font looks. It just 
>>> says Disk+, not sure what version but it is probably the 2.0 that you have. 
>>> What is really odd is everything I have read about it so far says it came 
>>> on cassettes and nothing about an option ROM at all.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t have any grief about dumping what I have, though. I don’t 
>>> imagine anyone is lacking the Interactive Solutions ROM that I also have?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am actually more excited that I have the custom carriers for the option 
>>> ROMs than the ROMs themselves. Ultimately I am looking to build my own 
>>> custom option ROM as I have an end use for this in mind that will give it a 
>>> relatively single purpose.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Scott M.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Brian K. White
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:43 PM
>>> To: M100 List
>>> Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have a Disk+ 2.0 rom I dumped here:
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhU01uYjFYNnpkTmM
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would be interested in that "4" version. It can be dumped via software
>>> 
>>> from the 100 using ROM2S
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have the host side of this? The description in that ad
>>> 
>>> sounds like a modified DOS bootable TPDD emulator, or had versions for
>>> 
>>> various machines not just ms-dos. Modified at least in so far as using
>>> 
>>> .SD in place of .<> for instance.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I did try the Disk+2.0 rom with a real TPDD2 and it didn't work. At the
>>> 
>>> time I didn't have a TPDD1 and I just assumed maybe it predates TPDD2
>>> 
>>> and only works with TPDD1. I have a TPDD1 now and should try it just to
>>> 
>>> see, but now it looks like maybe it didn't work because it's using it's
>>> 
>>> own protocol?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> bkw
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 12/16/20 4:35 PM, Tom Wilson wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Page 19
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf
>>> 
>>> > <https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf>
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > Tom Wilson
>>> 
>>> > wilso...@gmail.com <mailto:wilso...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> > (619)940-6311
>>> 
>>> > K6ABZ
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Scott McDonnell]

Brian,

The “4” was misleading. It is just the way that the font looks. It just says 
Disk+, not sure what version but it is probably the 2.0 that you have. What is 
really odd is everything I have read about it so far says it came on cassettes 
and nothing about an option ROM at all.

I wouldn’t have any grief about dumping what I have, though. I don’t imagine 
anyone is lacking the Interactive Solutions ROM that I also have?

I am actually more excited that I have the custom carriers for the option ROMs 
than the ROMs themselves. Ultimately I am looking to build my own custom option 
ROM as I have an end use for this in mind that will give it a relatively single 
purpose.

Scott M.

From: Brian K. White
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:43 PM
To: M100 List
Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)

I have a Disk+ 2.0 rom I dumped here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhU01uYjFYNnpkTmM

I would be interested in that "4" version. It can be dumped via software 
from the 100 using ROM2S

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S

Does anyone have the host side of this? The description in that ad 
sounds like a modified DOS bootable TPDD emulator, or had versions for 
various machines not just ms-dos. Modified at least in so far as using 
.SD in place of .<> for instance.

I did try the Disk+2.0 rom with a real TPDD2 and it didn't work. At the 
time I didn't have a TPDD1 and I just assumed maybe it predates TPDD2 
and only works with TPDD1. I have a TPDD1 now and should try it just to 
see, but now it looks like maybe it didn't work because it's using it's 
own protocol?

-- 
bkw

On 12/16/20 4:35 PM, Tom Wilson wrote:
> Page 19
> 
> https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf 
> <https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf>
> 
> 
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com <mailto:wilso...@gmail.com>
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell 
> mailto:mcdonnell.j...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that
> I am going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about
> this one.)
> 
> __ __
> 
> Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit
> had the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a
> ROM in it with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+
> after calling it. I cannot find any other information about this
> ROM. It appears to be a RAM file system manager of sorts? But it
> also appears to interact with the serial port for some reason (maybe
> to offload and download files from another computer?).
> 
> __ __
> 
> Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it
> beyond calling it (It is Call 63012)
> 
> __ __
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> __ __
> 
> Scott McDonnell
> 
> __ __
> 
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
> 
> __ __
> 


-- 
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Scott McDonnell]

Brian,

The “4” was misleading. It is just the way that the font looks. It just says 
Disk+, not sure what version but it is probably the 2.0 that you have. What is 
really odd is everything I have read about it so far says it came on cassettes 
and nothing about an option ROM at all.

I wouldn’t have any grief about dumping what I have, though. I don’t imagine 
anyone is lacking the Interactive Solutions ROM that I also have?

I am actually more excited that I have the custom carriers for the option ROMs 
than the ROMs themselves. Ultimately I am looking to build my own custom option 
ROM as I have an end use for this in mind that will give it a relatively single 
purpose.

Scott M.

From: Brian K. White
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:43 PM
To: M100 List
Subject: Re: [M100] (no subject)

I have a Disk+ 2.0 rom I dumped here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhU01uYjFYNnpkTmM

I would be interested in that "4" version. It can be dumped via software 
from the 100 using ROM2S

http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S

Does anyone have the host side of this? The description in that ad 
sounds like a modified DOS bootable TPDD emulator, or had versions for 
various machines not just ms-dos. Modified at least in so far as using 
.SD in place of .<> for instance.

I did try the Disk+2.0 rom with a real TPDD2 and it didn't work. At the 
time I didn't have a TPDD1 and I just assumed maybe it predates TPDD2 
and only works with TPDD1. I have a TPDD1 now and should try it just to 
see, but now it looks like maybe it didn't work because it's using it's 
own protocol?

-- 
bkw

On 12/16/20 4:35 PM, Tom Wilson wrote:
> Page 19
> 
> https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf 
> <https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf>
> 
> 
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com <mailto:wilso...@gmail.com>
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell 
> mailto:mcdonnell.j...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that
> I am going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about
> this one.)
> 
> __ __
> 
> Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit
> had the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a
> ROM in it with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+
> after calling it. I cannot find any other information about this
> ROM. It appears to be a RAM file system manager of sorts? But it
> also appears to interact with the serial port for some reason (maybe
> to offload and download files from another computer?).
> 
> __ __
> 
> Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it
> beyond calling it (It is Call 63012)
> 
> __ __
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> __ __
> 
> Scott McDonnell
> 
> __ __
> 
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
> 
> __ __
> 


-- 
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Tom Wilson]

I didn't get the impression that Disk+ had anything to do with the TPDD.
This appears to be specifically designed for communications with another
computer, not a disk drive. It seems to cover several systems: Apple II,
CP/M, and MS-DOS, but the ad did not say anything about the portable disk
drive.

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Brian K. White]

I have a Disk+ 2.0 rom I dumped here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bys6eLbSbYyhU01uYjFYNnpkTmM

I would be interested in that "4" version. It can be dumped via software 
from the 100 using ROM2S


http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?=0==Steve%20Adolph/ROM2S

Does anyone have the host side of this? The description in that ad 
sounds like a modified DOS bootable TPDD emulator, or had versions for 
various machines not just ms-dos. Modified at least in so far as using 
.SD in place of .<> for instance.


I did try the Disk+2.0 rom with a real TPDD2 and it didn't work. At the 
time I didn't have a TPDD1 and I just assumed maybe it predates TPDD2 
and only works with TPDD1. I have a TPDD1 now and should try it just to 
see, but now it looks like maybe it didn't work because it's using it's 
own protocol?


--
bkw

On 12/16/20 4:35 PM, Tom Wilson wrote:

Page 19

https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf 




Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com 
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell 
mailto:mcdonnell.j...@comcast.net>> wrote:


I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that
I am going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about
this one.)

__ __

Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit
had the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a
ROM in it with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+
after calling it. I cannot find any other information about this
ROM. It appears to be a RAM file system manager of sorts? But it
also appears to interact with the serial port for some reason (maybe
to offload and download files from another computer?).

__ __

Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it
beyond calling it (It is Call 63012)

__ __

Thanks!

__ __

Scott McDonnell

__ __

Sent from Mail  for
Windows 10

__ __




--
bkw

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[Tom Wilson]

Page 19

https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9205.pdf


Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell 
wrote:

> I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that I am
> going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about this one.)
>
>
>
> Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit had
> the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a ROM in it
> with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+ after calling
> it. I cannot find any other information about this ROM. It appears to be a
> RAM file system manager of sorts? But it also appears to interact with the
> serial port for some reason (maybe to offload and download files from
> another computer?).
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it beyond
> calling it (It is Call 63012)
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Scott McDonnell
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>

Re: [M100] (no subject)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Scott McDonnell 
wrote:

> I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that I am
> going to need to repair (I will probably have questions about this one.)
>
>
>
> Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit had
> the common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a ROM in it
> with a Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+ after calling
> it. I cannot find any other information about this ROM. It appears to be a
> RAM file system manager of sorts? But it also appears to interact with the
> serial port for some reason (maybe to offload and download files from
> another computer?).
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it beyond
> calling it (It is Call 63012)
>
>
>

I am pretty sure I have the manual for Disk+ around and maybe an OptROM or
cassette. I've never used it and didn't know it was missing.

Portable 100 has a review
Kepner, Terry. "Disk+ gives Model 100 disk drives." Aug 84:71-73.

https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-8408.pdf

PCSG

Disk+ is apparently a client/server program. Similar to the combo of TS-DOS
and LaddieAlpha, though I don't know what the actual protocol is.

And there are server / host programs for vintage micros if you can find the
software. Apple II, TRS-80 Model 4, IBM PC, etc.

-- John.

[M100] (no subject)

[Scott McDonnell]

I just picked up two Model 100’s from eBay. One working and one that I am going 
to need to repair (I will probably have questions about this one.)

Both had option ROMs installed (nice surprise!) The non-working unit had the 
common Interactive Solutions ROM, but the working one has a ROM in it with a 
Gold label called Disk 4 (shows up in menu as Disk+ after calling it. I cannot 
find any other information about this ROM. It appears to be a RAM file system 
manager of sorts? But it also appears to interact with the serial port for some 
reason (maybe to offload and download files from another computer?).

Does anyone have any information about this ROM and how to use it beyond 
calling it (It is Call 63012)

Thanks!

Scott McDonnell

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

[M100] (no subject)

[Peter Vollan]

Another program from The Dragon magazine, issue #63. Cut and pasted
from a pdf file. Unfortunately I then put it through a program to
eliminate the spaces, making the code hard to read, but it should run
the same. My own updated version is on my member's page at club 100.
Oh and, I found Joe Ulowetz on Linkedin.

29REMAGENTKNOWLEDGEDATA 30DATA"AGRICULTURE","ANIMAL
SCIENCE","ARCHITECTURE","ART & CRAFT","ASTRONOMY/SPACE
SCIENCE","BIOLOGY/BIOCHEMISTRY","BOTANY","CHEMISTRY","COMPUTER
SCIENCE","ECOLOGY/EARTH
SCIENCE","ECONOMICS/FINANCE","EDUCATION/INDOCTRINATION","ENG,
AERONAUTICAL" 31DATA"ENG, CONSTRUCTION/CIVIL","ENG, ELECTRICAL","ENG,
HYDRAULIC","ENG, INDUSTRIAL","ENG, MECHANICAL","ENG, TRANSPORTATION"
32DATA"FINE ARTS","GEOGRAPHY","GEOLOGY","HOME
ECONOMICS","LAW","LITERATURE","MATHEMATICS/ACCOUNTING","MEDICINE/PHYSIOLOGY","METALLURGY","MILITARY
SCIENCE/WEAPONRY" 33DATA"PHOTOGRAPHY","PHYSICAL
EDUCATION","PHYSICS","POLITICAL
SCIENCE/IDEOLOGY","PSYCHOLOGY","RELIGION","SOCIAL SCIENCES","WORLD
HISTORY/CURRENT AFFAIRS","","CHOICE"
34DIMAK$(39):FORI=1TO39:READAK$(I):NEXTI
39REMHEIGHTANDWEIGHTPARAMETERS
40DIMHM(10),H$(10),HT(10):DATA0,-1,-1,0,0,1,1,2,2,0,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-4,-3,-3,-2,-2,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,7
45FORI=1TO10:READHM(I):NEXTI:FORI=1TO10:READH$(I):NEXTI:FORI=1TO10:READHT(I):NEXTI
46DIMLF(5),AO(10),AR(10)
47DATA0,-10,-5,-5,0,0,5,10,15,0,-35,-30,-25,-20,-15,-15,-10,-10,-10,-10,15,20,25,30,40,50,75,100,125,150:DIMWM(10),WL(10),WH(10):FORI=1TO10:READWM(I):NEXTI:FORI=1TO10:READWL(I):NEXTI:FORI=1TO10:READWH(I):NEXTI
50PRINT"ADMINISTRATOR":PRINT" FILE 080" 60PRINT:PRINT:PRINT" TOP
SECRET" 70PRINT:PRINT:PRINT" OPERATION:DOSSIER":PRINT" CODE
NAME:PAPERWEIGHT" 80PRINT:PRINT" DO NOT ACCEPT TAPE FROM
COURIER":PRINT" IF SEAL IS BROKEN" 83PRINT:PRINT" (TOUCH ANY KEY)";
90IFLEN(INKEY$)=0THEN90 95M$="BEGIN: AGENT
GENERATION":GOSUB100:GOTO110 100PRINT"** TOP SECRET **":PRINT:PRINTM$
105PRINT:PRINT:RETURN 110CT=0:INPUT" 0=NPC AGENT, 1=PLAYER AGENT";CT
112IFCT=0THENPRINT" AGENT IS NPC"ELSEPRINT" AGENT IS PLAYER CHARACTER"
120PRINT:HD=0:INPUT" HANDEDNESS (0=RANDOM,1=RIGHT, 2=LEFT)";HD
130IFHD>OTHEN140ELSEHD=1:IFRND(100)>90THENHD=2 140IFHD=1THENPRINT"
AGENT IS RIGHT HANDED"ELSEPRINT" AGENT IS LEFT HANDED"
150PRINT:SX=0:INPUT" SEX (0=RANDOM,1=MALE, 2=FEMALE";SX
160IFSX>0THEN170ELSESX=1:IFRND(10)>8THENSX=2 170IFSX=1THENPRINT" AGENT
IS MALE"ELSEPRINT" AGENT IS FEMALE" 180PRINT:INPUT" AGENT
RACE:";RC$:IFLEN(RC$)=0THENRC$="CAUCASIAN"
190REMGENERATEPRIMARYCHARACTERISTICS 200X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270
210P1=X:X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270
220P2=X:X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270
230P3=X:X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270
240P4=X:X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270
250P5=X:X=RND(100):IFCT=1THENGOSUB270 260P6=X:GOTO280
265REMINCREASEVALUESFORPC
270IFX>90THENRETURNELSEX=X+5:IFX>70THENRETURNELSEX=X+5:IFX>50THENRETURNELSEX=X+5:IFX>25THENRETURNELSEX=X+10:RETURN
280M$="AGENT'S PRIMARY TRAITS":GOSUB100 290PRINT"1. STRENGTH";P1,"4.
COURAGE";P4:PRINT:PRINT"2. CHARM";P2,"5. KNOWLEDGE";P5:PRINT:PRINT"3.
WILLPOWER";P3,"6. COORDINATION";P6 300PRINT:I=0:INPUT"ENTER 0 TO
CONTINUE, 1-6 TO CHANGE TRAIT (BY NUMBER), 7 TO RE-ROLL PRIMARY
TRAITS, 8 TO START ALL OVER";I
305IFI=0THEN332ELSEIFI=7THEN200ELSEIFI=8THEN95ELSEPRINT:PRINT:PRINT:PRINT"NEW
VALUE DESIRED FOR TRAIT #";I;:INPUTX
320IFI=1THENP1=XELSEIFI=2THENP2=XELSEIFI=3THENP3=XELSEIFI=4THENP4=XELSEIFI=5THENP5=XELSEIFI=6THENP6=X
330GOTO280 332PRINT"ONE MOMENT PLEASE..." 335REMSECONDARYTRAITS
340S1=INT(.5+(P6+P4)/2):S2=INT(.5+(P4+P2)/2):S3=INT(.5+(P2+P6)/2):S4=INT(.5+(P5+P6)/2):S5=P1+P3+P6:S6=INT(.5+(P1+P3)/10)
345REMTERTIARYTRAITS 350T1=S3+P1:T2=S1+P1:T3=S2+S3 355REMHEIGHT
360H=70:IFSX=2THENH=65
370X=RND(10):H=H+HM(X):IFX=1THENH=H+H$(RND(10))ELSEIFX=10THENH=H+HT(RND(10))
375REMAGE 380AG=RND(10)+RND(10)+RND(10)+12:IFCT=0THENAG=AG+RND(20)
385REMGLASSES? 
390GL=0:CG=P6:IFRND(10)<4THENGL=1:CG=P6-INT(P6*RND(100)/100):IFRND(10)=1THENCL=2
395REMWEIGHT 400WT=170:X=(H-70)*5:IFSX=2THENWT=145:X=(H-65)*5
410WT=WT+X+RND(10)-5:X=RND(10):WT=WT+X:IFX=1THENWT=WT-WL(RND(10))ELSEIFX=10THENWT=WT+WH(RND(10))
415IFSX=2THENWT=INT(WT*.8) 420NL=INT(P5/25)+1
421LF(1)=70+RND(10)+RND(10)+RND(10)
425FORI=2TO5:LF(I)=0:NEXTI:IFNL=1THENGOTO440ELSEFORI=2TONL:LF(I)=RND(100):IFLF(I)<40THENLF(I)=40ELSEIFLF(I)>LF(1)THENLF(I)=LF(1)
430NEXTI 
440NA=INT((P5-1)/10)+1:FORI=1TONA:X=RND(100):IFX<75THENAO(I)=INT((X+1)/2)ELSEAO(I)=39
442IFI=1ORX>=75THEN450ELSEFORI1=1TOI-1:IFAO(I)=AO(I1)THEN444ELSENEXTI1:GOTO450
444X=RND(100):IFX<75THENAO(I)=INT((X+1)/2):GOTO442ELSEAO(I)=39
450AR(I)=RND(100):IFAR(I)<21THENAR(I)=AR(I)+20
460AR(I)=AR(I)+30:NEXTI:IFNA=10THEN470ELSEFORI=NA+1TO10:AO(I)=38:AR(I)=0:NEXTI
470CLS:PRINT@24,"** TOP SECRET
**":PRINT@128,"STRENGTH";P1,"OFFENSE";S1,"HTH
COMBAT";T1:IFSX=1THENM$="MALE"ELSE$="FEMALE" 480PRINT"
SEX";M$:PRINT"CHARM";P2,"DECEPTION";S2,"WRESTLING";T2,"HEIGHT";INT(H/12);CHR$(39);H-INT(H/12)*12;CHR$(34)
490PRINT"WILLPOWER";P3,"EVASION";S3,"SURPRISE";T3,"WEIGHT";WT;"LBS","COURAGE";P4,"DEACTIVATION";S4;TAB(48)"AGE:";AG;"YRS"

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[Jesus R]

You are correctthis passes files direct from computer or phone to your
Tandy unit via their audio output.

*John R. Hogerhuis* jhoger at pobox.com

*Sun Sep 16 12:57:42 PDT 2018*


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You shouldnt have to transfer to tape.

Should be able to play from your computer or phone through headphone jack.

-- John.

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[Paul F]

http://put.icestudioonline.com
Paul F

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[Russell Flowers]

I just stumbled across this on Facebook. I haven't had much time to look at
it, but it looks like it might be of interest.

*Retrochallenge 2016/01: Maze War for Olivetti M10 and NEC PC-8201A*

*"I recently acquired two 1983 portable computers, namely an Olivetti M10
and a NEC PC-8201A. Both are siblings of the Kyocera KC-85 platform,
comprising — in alphabetical order — Kyocera's own Kyotronic 85, the NEC
PC-8201(A), the Olivetti M10, and, last but not least, the TRS-80 Model
100, with about 6 million sold the most popular of all. (1984 saw the
addition of two further models featuring more initial RAM and refined ROMs,
the NEC PC-8300 and the TRS-80 Model 102.)*

*"These computers came with a nice version of Microsoft BASIC v.1, a LCD
display featuring 8 rows at 40 characters and a graphics resolution of 240
× 64 pixels, and a nice imple­men­tation of serial communications via
RS-232C (the NEC PC-8201 adds two more SIO interfaces). So we should be
able to network the machines and have a decent game of Maze War running on
them, preferably written as a single cross-platform program."*

http://www.masswerk.at/rc2016/01/