Re: Why VoiceOver reads some PDFs strangely was Re: Skim Accessibility
I'm finding that Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 works quite well with PDFs . With VoiceOver, it will read continuously and without cutting off letters as Preview does (and Skim and Softcon, in my experience). ADE allows you to pause/restart, move up and down a page at a time, adjust the reading speed and so on. It doesn't allow you to interact with the text and use the more detailed reading commands -- by word, by sentence etc -- but purely for listening, it's the most accurate reder I've yet discovered. Fred On 13/11/2012, at 4:08 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: I've not tried it on anything above snowleopard, and not all since preview added the continuous reading mode, but the softcon pages has an application that will let you read pdf files. It's called softcon pdf viewer, and I stopped doing anything with it after preview got the continuous read mode as mentioned above, but for those who are having trouble with preview, it might be something to try. I won't guarantee better results, only that results might be different. It's located at the softcon mac pages at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ It's not been compiled for the latest versions of osx, so it may not even work, but I suppose it's worth a try anyhow. hth. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
click mouse keystroke
Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Well, a simple work arroung is to go to context menu and then do open and that will allow you to install any app. It'll ask you if your sure but then will install regardless of where it comes from. I'm having a mental blank of control mouse click but if it came to it, it's either VO command f5 or VO f5 then, turn off VoiceOver and do the modifier with an actual mouse or touchpad click/double click. I'll let someone who hasn't had a couple of vodkas answer that one but the context menu, shift vo m and open will definitely work for opening any app regardless of where it is from. HTH. Danny:' On 13/11/2012, at 9:27 PM, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Hello Sean, Control-click is the standard shortcut to get a contextual menu. So, you can try VO-Shift-m, but if that doesn't work, just bring the mouse with VO-Cmd-F5, hold down the Control key and click with the mouse or trackpad. You do not have to turn VO off. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:27, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OCR on the iPhone
Hello Paul, There are several OCR apps for the iPhone. My favourite is Prizmo, but Perfect OCR also works well for me. Other people seem to like Text Detective but I haven't tried it since it only works in English. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:54, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Can someone please remind me of the name of the Optical Character Recognition (OCR) app on the iPhone. this appp has been recommended on this list. I think you take a photo of the text you want to read and the app does the rest. I have tried searching the itunes App store with terms like OCR but no joy yet. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Thanks. I think I was thinking of 1 specific use that required vo to be turned off. Restoring or something within iTunes. bad memory on my part Danny: On 13/11/2012, at 10:23 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Sean, Control-click is the standard shortcut to get a contextual menu. So, you can try VO-Shift-m, but if that doesn't work, just bring the mouse with VO-Cmd-F5, hold down the Control key and click with the mouse or trackpad. You do not have to turn VO off. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:27, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OCR on the iPhone
Hello Paul, I recall that you have an iPhone 3GS. The effectiveness of an OCR app is set by the camera on your iOS device. I get good results with Prizmo on an iPhone 4. I think it might be more problematic on an iPhone 3GS. I've also found Prizmo to be the most robust program to use if you are taking an image for OCR with your device. I've also used ABBYY TextGrabber, but you have to be more precise about your alignment to use this. Both these programs will work for many other languages besides English. And I think Perfect OCR was the first such app I tried to use, by the way, and I tested it on French text! Prizmo and ABBYY TextGrabber will recognize text that is upside down or rotated by 90 degrees, provided you have aligned your camera well. (I don't remember trying that with Perfect OCR, but other OCR apps will not necessarily work unless the text is correctly oriented.) It is easier to get started with Text Detective and get some results. I think one reason is that you hold the iPhone in landscape mode when you take your picture, while the page is in portrait mode. This makes it easier to keep the camera aligned, and also you can use the edge of the page as a reference guide. The issue for me is that this only gives me a part of a page, and no easy way to combine the results, whereas with Prizmo or TextGrabber I can get a whole page in one shot. But this works very well if you need to read the address information on a letter or some specific part of a page. I'd also guess that low vision users might like this app a lot. It helps that this was designed for blind users, so usage is simple. With Prizmo you double tap the next button a few times, because you skip over the screens that allow for interactive manipulation of the image, such as cropping, before sending to OCR. There's a user guide for Prizmo at the AppleVis web site. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?
Hi there! Well it has been broken because of Apples problems with Java! TC are working on it to see what they can come up with! So unfortunately it is the other platform to use for now! Colin On 13 Nov 2012, at 03:17, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote: Hi Desi, it doesn't work well with TC Conference at all, and is very difficult to setup. On 2012-11-12, at 8:36 PM, Desi Noller desiandca...@q.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Has anyone on this list used the TC Conference software or iOS App? If so, how do I make it work please? Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
how to tether an ipad mini to iphone 4s
hi all i am with three network in the UK therefore i turn on personal hotspot on iphone 4s set my password yet when i try with the mini to connect it says connection error even though password correct. anyone else noted this bug? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
CCTV application
Is anyone aware of any magnification applications that will turn the iPad or iPhone into a portable CCTV? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: CCTV application
Yes, there is a good one called: Brighter Bigger. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shelly Blomstrom sblomst...@sbcglobal.net To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: CCTV application Is anyone aware of any magnification applications that will turn the iPad or iPhone into a portable CCTV? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Suggestion didn't work
What kind of mac do yu have? also did you empty your trash to make sure your start up disk was not full? If ou have mountain lion or lion try doing a disk permissions repair from the recovery counsel that way all files are unlocked for modifying if necessary. On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I am grateful for the suggestion of repairing my disk permissions. I followed all steps and did that. It hasn't worked. I can't even use the computer because it takes me so long to get a command in edgewise. Finder is always busy and only gives me time for about two or three keystrokes, if that. Any app I am fortunate enough to open is busy in the same ways. It took about an hour to accomplish the verify and repair. What can the computer possibly be doing? Kristeen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: CCTV application
Hi Shelly and Glenn, I was told that many low vision users liked the VisionAssist app. You can also use it wirelessly with an Apple TV to show a magnified image on your large screen TV or monitor. In addition, your zoom and pan can be frozen while you make adjustments to contrast, and the display mode has different color, contrast, and highlighting settings. In low light settings you can use the LED (on iOS models with flash) to increase brightness. Controls are large, and everything works with VoiceOver. It's a universal app for both iPhone and iPad. .• VisionAssist by SlinkyWare ($5.99) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/visionassist/id502356279?mt=8 You can also read more from there web page; http://visionassist.slinkyware.com/ There are also a lot of magnifier apps that we're not specifically designed for the other CCTV-like functions. Here's another popular one: • Lumin by Mahboud Zabetian ($1.99) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lumin/id480343142?mt=8 It's also universal, but relies on using the lock screen button and then zooming the image with inverse pinch gesture. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Yes, there is a good one called: Brighter Bigger. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shelly Blomstrom sblomst...@sbcglobal.net To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: CCTV application Is anyone aware of any magnification applications that will turn the iPad or iPhone into a portable CCTV? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?
I thought there were some instructions that enabled a vo user to successfully use the tc client to log in for the first time on their own? correct me if I'm wrong though. S On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi there! Well it has been broken because of Apples problems with Java! TC are working on it to see what they can come up with! So unfortunately it is the other platform to use for now! Colin On 13 Nov 2012, at 03:17, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote: Hi Desi, it doesn't work well with TC Conference at all, and is very difficult to setup. On 2012-11-12, at 8:36 PM, Desi Noller desiandca...@q.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Has anyone on this list used the TC Conference software or iOS App? If so, how do I make it work please? Desi --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: CCTV application
Just downloaded Brighter and Bigger - it looks great. There used to be one called lumin or something, but it went inaccessible with a later update. thanks for this. - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: CCTV application Yes, there is a good one called: Brighter Bigger. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shelly Blomstrom sblomst...@sbcglobal.net To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: CCTV application Is anyone aware of any magnification applications that will turn the iPad or iPhone into a portable CCTV? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
I've never been able to get a good answer to this one either. What I've been told is to tap the trackpad while holding down the control key, but no joy here on my end. In true Phil fashion, I just gave up;-) - Original Message - From: Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:27 AM Subject: click mouse keystroke Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Suggestion didn't work
did you do the permissions repair from the recovery partition? That's important from what I understand. otherwise, you can't really repair the disk permissions whilst operating from that disk. - Original Message - From: Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Suggestion didn't work I am grateful for the suggestion of repairing my disk permissions. I followed all steps and did that. It hasn't worked. I can't even use the computer because it takes me so long to get a command in edgewise. Finder is always busy and only gives me time for about two or three keystrokes, if that. Any app I am fortunate enough to open is busy in the same ways. It took about an hour to accomplish the verify and repair. What can the computer possibly be doing? Kristeen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I've never been able to get a good answer to this one either. What I've been told is to tap the trackpad while holding down the control key, but no joy here on my end. In true Phil fashion, I just gave up;-) - Original Message - From: Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:27 AM Subject: click mouse keystroke Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Gordon's VMWare demo
I think I got it from the Mac-Access file sharing site. Ask Gordon I suppose. - Original Message - From: ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:15 AM Subject: Re: Gordon's VMWare demo Hi, Where can one get a copy of this VMware demo? Thanks, Robert Carter On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Gordon and all, Just listened to the VM Demo in its entirety, and I have to say, Gordon did a fine job demonstrating VMWare. I bought my first Mac this summer, after having used JAWS and Windows since the DOS days. My iPhone's accessibility was the deciding factor in my decision to purchase the iMac. My principle use of computers these days is reading and writing documents, and making extensive use of spreadsheets for all manner of tasks involving the manipulation of text and data. Unfortunately, I don't see any reason to learn an entirely new productivity suite like Apple's iWork, since I know and use MS Office extensively. I like the Mac iTunes and iMovie apps and I'm sure there are others I'll get to know and use, but for productivity, I can't beat the combination of MS Office and JAWS. Now enter VMWare Fusion. The demo makes me want to give the VMWare Fusion trial version another shot, this time installing windows as a guest instead of using my existing bootcamp. But, I think I'd have to either first remove the bootcamp to free up the license, or, buy another Windows license to install windows7 as a guest - and I'm a little shakey on both. I've got half my 500GB drive dedicated to bootcamp, and the other to MAC OS X. In all my days, I've never exceeded 50 GB on a system drive, so I don't feel too constrained by this arrangement. I've also got a 2 terabyte firewire800 drive apportioned half to each system, so I feel I have ample storage. As it stands then, I have two systems in one iMac hardware package, and but for the minor inconvenience of having to reboot to access the other OS, and remembering the minor keyboard differences, it's working well for me. Well, I just wanted to congratulate Gordon on a fine job with the demo, and give my thoughts on the Mac from the perspective of a long time DOS/Windows user. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Hello Zack, VO does not prevent control-click or Option-Click from working. Tapping the trackpad is not sufficient, you have to press down on it to click. In System Preferences, you should uncheck the Tap to click check box which may be where the confusion is coming from. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 18:20, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Gordon's VMWare demo
Hi Robert, Phil is speaking of the VMWare demo that Gordon recorded for ACB Radio's Main Menu program in April 2007. I uploaded a copy of the VM-Demo.mp3 file to the web site at: https://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access:mac-access I also uploaded the streaming mm298.m3u file for this program. If you play from this (through an internet connection), in addition to the first hour covered in the mp3 file you'll be able to hear the subsequent hour of live questions and answers. You can find more details by searching the list archives. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 02:15, ROBERT CARTER wrote: Hi, Where can one get a copy of this VMware demo? Thanks, Robert Carter On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Gordon and all, Just listened to the VM Demo in its entirety, and I have to say, Gordon did a fine job demonstrating VMWare. snip --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?
Hi! You are correct but since the trouble with Java and Apples tightening up on Java TC for the Mac has stopped working! So we will have to see what TC can come up with! Colin On 13 Nov 2012, at 16:34, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I thought there were some instructions that enabled a vo user to successfully use the tc client to log in for the first time on their own? correct me if I'm wrong though. S --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Hello Zack and Others, My experience is the same as Anne's: having VoiceOver on works with all these key combinations such as Control-click and Option-click. The only other possible issue I can think of is how your cursor tracking options are set, since if you use a mouse or trackpad and have these two tracking you might be able to inadvertently move your cursor off the element you want if you don't press down directly for your click. But I agree with Anne that as long as your mouse cursor is routed to your VO cursor (VO-Command-F5), holding down the control key and pressing down to click the trackpad works for me with VO on. So does Option-click. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 07:38, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Zack, VO does not prevent control-click or Option-Click from working. Tapping the trackpad is not sufficient, you have to press down on it to click. In System Preferences, you should uncheck the Tap to click check box which may be where the confusion is coming from. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 18:20, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: CCTV application
Hi Phil, I didn't know Lumin went inaccessible. The only people I know who use it are non-visually impaired older relatives, who also haven't updated to the latest version of iOS. You can check AppleVis for more recommendations. I read some bad reviews for EyeSight - The App that Replaces Handheld Magnifiers and CCTV's ($31.99) from a few people who tried it on other lists. Otherwise, this is second-hand experience. I do know some people like the VisionAssist app, though. I don't know whether the experience has changed under iOS 6. Thanks, Glen, for the suggestion of Brighter and Bigger. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 07:14, Phil Halton wrote: Just downloaded Brighter and Bigger - it looks great. There used to be one called lumin or something, but it went inaccessible with a later update. thanks for this. - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: CCTV application Yes, there is a good one called: Brighter Bigger. HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shelly Blomstrom sblomst...@sbcglobal.net To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: CCTV application Is anyone aware of any magnification applications that will turn the iPad or iPhone into a portable CCTV? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Well, I'll be, I actually got it to work. You do need to Press down on the trackpad - I didn't know it was pressure sensative. I did uncheck the tap to click checkbox in trackpad SysPref's. Now, I don't suppose you can tell us what the secondary click setting in system preferences/trackpad is for? - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:38 PM Subject: Re: click mouse keystroke Hello Zack, VO does not prevent control-click or Option-Click from working. Tapping the trackpad is not sufficient, you have to press down on it to click. In System Preferences, you should uncheck the Tap to click check box which may be where the confusion is coming from. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 18:20, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
I was still under the impression that to do a control click I think it is so as to load a beta iOs image onto an iDevice, this did entale turning off VO but was specifically a VO bug in this 1 situation. Perhaps this has been resolved or I am incorrect but there are several mentions of this in the archives. Either way, great to have a definitive simple to understand instruction on how to do it as it seems to confuse quite a few of us. smile Danny: On 14/11/2012, at 4:58 AM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Zack and Others, My experience is the same as Anne's: having VoiceOver on works with all these key combinations such as Control-click and Option-click. The only other possible issue I can think of is how your cursor tracking options are set, since if you use a mouse or trackpad and have these two tracking you might be able to inadvertently move your cursor off the element you want if you don't press down directly for your click. But I agree with Anne that as long as your mouse cursor is routed to your VO cursor (VO-Command-F5), holding down the control key and pressing down to click the trackpad works for me with VO on. So does Option-click. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 07:38, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Zack, VO does not prevent control-click or Option-Click from working. Tapping the trackpad is not sufficient, you have to press down on it to click. In System Preferences, you should uncheck the Tap to click check box which may be where the confusion is coming from. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 18:20, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Suggestion didn't work
I have a Mac Mini and I emptied the trash. I don't know if I know how to do this recovery console repair. Could you say more? Kristeen On Nov 13, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of mac do yu have? also did you empty your trash to make sure your start up disk was not full? If ou have mountain lion or lion try doing a disk permissions repair from the recovery counsel that way all files are unlocked for modifying if necessary. On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I am grateful for the suggestion of repairing my disk permissions. I followed all steps and did that. It hasn't worked. I can't even use the computer because it takes me so long to get a command in edgewise. Finder is always busy and only gives me time for about two or three keystrokes, if that. Any app I am fortunate enough to open is busy in the same ways. It took about an hour to accomplish the verify and repair. What can the computer possibly be doing? Kristeen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Suggestion didn't work
Do you have a moniter connected to the mini. if not that could be what's causing the probglem but in case it is not . I skipped a number but the steps shoudl still aline. I'm at school typing this on an ios device. 1. shut down the computer 2. hold down cmd plus r whilst turning on the mac. 3 wait about 30 seconds. 4. release the cmd r key stroke and turn on vo 5. navagate to the disk utility and hit continue. 6. interact wit the table or just arrow to your start up disk 8. choose first aid from the tabs 9. choose repair disk permissions and after that repair disk once the permissions repair is done. Restart the mac by quitting all of these stuff afterwords and seeing if that problem goes away. On Nov 13, 2012, at 13:56, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Mac Mini and I emptied the trash. I don't know if I know how to do this recovery console repair. Could you say more? Kristeen On Nov 13, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of mac do yu have? also did you empty your trash to make sure your start up disk was not full? If ou have mountain lion or lion try doing a disk permissions repair from the recovery counsel that way all files are unlocked for modifying if necessary. On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I am grateful for the suggestion of repairing my disk permissions. I followed all steps and did that. It hasn't worked. I can't even use the computer because it takes me so long to get a command in edgewise. Finder is always busy and only gives me time for about two or three keystrokes, if that. Any app I am fortunate enough to open is busy in the same ways. It took about an hour to accomplish the verify and repair. What can the computer possibly be doing? Kristeen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Suggestion didn't work
Sorryif you already answered this one, but are you attempting to use your mac mini without a monitor? I ask because a number of folks have had the same symptom you are describing when they attempted to use recent mac mini models sans monitor. If this is the case, there is a hardware solution available. In fact, I think Esther recently reposted the solution, so it should be in the recent archives. Bryan On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Mac Mini and I emptied the trash. I don't know if I know how to do this recovery console repair. Could you say more? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
to restore from an ipsw file you downloaded let's say to resotre off line you do need to turn off vo. It's the same with some programs such as crash plan where you do need to turn off vo to get to some of the settings to do a control or option click. Take care. On Nov 13, 2012, at 13:44, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: I was still under the impression that to do a control click I think it is so as to load a beta iOs image onto an iDevice, this did entale turning off VO but was specifically a VO bug in this 1 situation. Perhaps this has been resolved or I am incorrect but there are several mentions of this in the archives. Either way, great to have a definitive simple to understand instruction on how to do it as it seems to confuse quite a few of us. smile Danny: On 14/11/2012, at 4:58 AM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Zack and Others, My experience is the same as Anne's: having VoiceOver on works with all these key combinations such as Control-click and Option-click. The only other possible issue I can think of is how your cursor tracking options are set, since if you use a mouse or trackpad and have these two tracking you might be able to inadvertently move your cursor off the element you want if you don't press down directly for your click. But I agree with Anne that as long as your mouse cursor is routed to your VO cursor (VO-Command-F5), holding down the control key and pressing down to click the trackpad works for me with VO on. So does Option-click. Cheers, Esther On Nov 13, 2012, at 07:38, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Zack, VO does not prevent control-click or Option-Click from working. Tapping the trackpad is not sufficient, you have to press down on it to click. In System Preferences, you should uncheck the Tap to click check box which may be where the confusion is coming from. Cheers, Anne On 13 Nov 2012, at 18:20, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?
Oh goes to sho whow much I use this app. lol! I hope they come up wiht somethign and I hope someone contacts the accessibility guys at apple to notify them about this. On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:32, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi! You are correct but since the trouble with Java and Apples tightening up on Java TC for the Mac has stopped working! So we will have to see what TC can come up with! Colin On 13 Nov 2012, at 16:34, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I thought there were some instructions that enabled a vo user to successfully use the tc client to log in for the first time on their own? correct me if I'm wrong though. S --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: click mouse keystroke
Hi All. Like always, I used the vo shift m and open the file with no problems. It appears there is a split between the methods of using control click and option click. I have written down the steps below so they can be corrected if they are in error. In the case you want to open a file and use the control click, do the following: 1. Simple process is to use vo shift m and select the open item. 2. The long method is: a: Select the program you want to open. B: Press vo cmd f5 to move the mouse cursor to the vo cursor. C: Press control track pad or control mouse click (on the physical mouse). The last point is where the split occurs. Some people say you don't have to turn off VO while others say you do. I will try both methods and see what occurs. Sean On 14/11/2012, at 4:20 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I believe the problem is that with voiceover on, ctrl-click and option-click don't work properly. you need to toggle it first, then click, and finally turn it back on again. This is probably worth reporting to Apple, as it is a minor but occasionally noticeable inconvenience. Best, Zack. On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I've never been able to get a good answer to this one either. What I've been told is to tap the trackpad while holding down the control key, but no joy here on my end. In true Phil fashion, I just gave up;-) - Original Message - From: Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:27 AM Subject: click mouse keystroke Hello team, How do you issue a control mouse click within VO? Since under Mountain Lion, if you have your security settings set to Apple store and known developers, and if you download an app that doesn't meet this. You can get around the issue by pressing control mouse click. I have already worked out how to get the mouse to the app, but cannot find the keystroke to issue control click. Any help would be great. Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
