Re: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 1002, Issue 2

2013-01-30 Thread William Lomas
it is saying my apple ID is different for garage band 
i used a hotmail address for my id

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 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:10:26 -0800
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
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 Hmm that is odd. it was not in mine.  but it's like $20 or something like 
 that. which is not bad for a feature rich editor. 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 It was included with my purchase of Mountain Lion back in August. Perhaps 
 they've discontinued that bundling. Go to the App store and on the purchases 
 page, look for GarageBand. It might be there available for downloading.
 - Original Message - From: William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:10 PM
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 hi to all i thought please that garage band was included with an 
 installation of mountain lion?
 can't find it anywhere
 
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 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:48:08 -0600
 From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
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 It was shipped on my new late 2012 Mac mini, I love it, even though I haven't 
 started to actually work with it yet. 
 
 Sent from my iPod with iCloud
 
 On 29 Jan 2013, at 4:45 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 It was included with my purchase of Mountain Lion back in August. Perhaps 
 they've discontinued that bundling. Go to the App store and on the purchases 
 page, look for GarageBand. It might be there available for downloading.
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Re: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 1002, Issue 2

2013-01-30 Thread William Lomas
now my apple ID has changed to my googlemail so will have to buy it again under 
that ID

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 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:10:26 -0800
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: garage band
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 Hmm that is odd. it was not in mine.  but it's like $20 or something like 
 that. which is not bad for a feature rich editor. 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 It was included with my purchase of Mountain Lion back in August. Perhaps 
 they've discontinued that bundling. Go to the App store and on the purchases 
 page, look for GarageBand. It might be there available for downloading.
 - Original Message - From: William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:10 PM
 Subject: garage band
 
 
 hi to all i thought please that garage band was included with an 
 installation of mountain lion?
 can't find it anywhere
 
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 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:48:08 -0600
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 Subject: Re: garage band
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 It was shipped on my new late 2012 Mac mini, I love it, even though I haven't 
 started to actually work with it yet. 
 
 Sent from my iPod with iCloud
 
 On 29 Jan 2013, at 4:45 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 It was included with my purchase of Mountain Lion back in August. Perhaps 
 they've discontinued that bundling. Go to the App store and on the purchases 
 page, look for GarageBand. It might be there available for downloading.
 - Original 

RE: proximity sensor?

2013-01-30 Thread David Griffith
I do not know of such a product but wonder why you feel they would be
conspicuous?
They are very little different from a normal pair of sun shield glasses.

David Griffith


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 January 2013 10:33
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: proximity sensor?

HiAll,

just read about glasses you can wear that vibrate when your upper torso is
approaching an obstacle. Sold by RNIB in UK. Price £60.

I would feel conspicuous wearing these, but it got me thinking about whether
a more discreet proximity sensor that could be linked by bluetooth to my
phone which would then provide the vibration. 

Has anyone seen a product like this or any idea who to approach to develop?

Ian

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Re: dictation on IOS

2013-01-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I've also had the issue that Glenn is describing.

Chris Gilland.
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- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: dictation on IOS


Really? I can dictate for more then about 30 seconds. I don't think there 
is as it needs time to process. I find that dictating a sentence at  a 
time works well.


Take care.
On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:


Hi All,
I have tried the dictate button on my iPhone, and Dragon Dictate, and all 
of

that stops dictation after 30 seconds.
Is there an app out there that will allow you to keep dictating for a 
longer

time?
Thanks.
Glenn

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iPod 4th generation upgrade to iOS 6.1 stuck

2013-01-30 Thread Robert Hill
Hi all,

I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do anything 
with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device unstuck?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bob Hill

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Re: iPod 4th generation upgrade to iOS 6.1 stuck

2013-01-30 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Robert,
don't do anything, because your IPod is automatically shutdown while it's 
upgrading.
Wait for an hour or two, and it will come back.
On 2013-01-30, at 7:52 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
 The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
 anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
 I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
 Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device unstuck?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
 Bob Hill
 
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Re: iPod 4th generation upgrade to iOS 6.1 stuck

2013-01-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Huh? my upgrade and reboot only took about 2 minutes. lol! Not an hour. It 
should not take that long, even if you did an ota. update. 

Take care.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote:

 Hi Robert,
 don't do anything, because your IPod is automatically shutdown while it's 
 upgrading.
 Wait for an hour or two, and it will come back.
 On 2013-01-30, at 7:52 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
 The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
 anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
 I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
 Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device unstuck?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
 Bob Hill
 
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Re: dictation on IOS

2013-01-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I never would dictate a book but the key is to

1. speak slower then you would with normal speech.

2. enunciate. Pretend you are a classical singer

3. dictate 1 perhaps 2 sentences at a time.. If they are long, split them in 
half.

I do this with about 95 percent accuracy. If only it would get my last name 
right though. lol!

Hope that helps someone. 
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 I've also had the issue that Glenn is describing.
 
 Chris Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 http://www.clgproductions.com
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 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: dictation on IOS
 
 
 Really? I can dictate for more then about 30 seconds. I don't think there is 
 as it needs time to process. I find that dictating a sentence at  a time 
 works well.
 
 Take care.
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I have tried the dictate button on my iPhone, and Dragon Dictate, and all of
 that stops dictation after 30 seconds.
 Is there an app out there that will allow you to keep dictating for a longer
 time?
 Thanks.
 Glenn
 
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Re: iPod 4th generation upgrade to iOS 6.1 stuck

2013-01-30 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Sarah,
I haven't yet upgraded my IPod, but a friend of mind upgraded his IPhone, and 
he said that it took an hour, so I'm going by what other people said.
When I do upgrade my IPod, I hope that it only takes the time that you say.
Take care.On 2013-01-30, at 11:49 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Huh? my upgrade and reboot only took about 2 minutes. lol! Not an hour. It 
 should not take that long, even if you did an ota. update. 
 
 Take care.
 On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 don't do anything, because your IPod is automatically shutdown while it's 
 upgrading.
 Wait for an hour or two, and it will come back.
 On 2013-01-30, at 7:52 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
 The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
 anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
 I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
 Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device unstuck?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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Re: proximity sensor?

2013-01-30 Thread Glenn
There is a less expensive device on the market...
It is called a long-white cane.
Seriously, why would one worry about objects in their proximity and not 
use a long cane?
Glenn

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From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:31 AM
Subject: RE: proximity sensor?


I do not know of such a product but wonder why you feel they would be
conspicuous?
They are very little different from a normal pair of sun shield glasses.

David Griffith


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 January 2013 10:33
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: proximity sensor?

HiAll,

just read about glasses you can wear that vibrate when your upper torso is
approaching an obstacle. Sold by RNIB in UK. Price £60.

I would feel conspicuous wearing these, but it got me thinking about whether
a more discreet proximity sensor that could be linked by bluetooth to my
phone which would then provide the vibration.

Has anyone seen a product like this or any idea who to approach to develop?

Ian

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Re: dictation on IOS

2013-01-30 Thread Glenn
Sarah,
It is not a matter of accuracy, in fact, I speak in a regular manner, and it 
gets at least 95% correct for me.
I am referring to the 30 second limit on dictation.
I need an app that does like list recorder, the app, and will also process 
the recording into text and do it all on the same device, not having to 
upload it to a PC.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: dictation on IOS


I never would dictate a book but the key is to

1. speak slower then you would with normal speech.

2. enunciate. Pretend you are a classical singer

3. dictate 1 perhaps 2 sentences at a time.. If they are long, split them in 
half.

I do this with about 95 percent accuracy. If only it would get my last name 
right though. lol!

Hope that helps someone.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 I've also had the issue that Glenn is describing.

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 Founder of CLG Productions
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 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: dictation on IOS


 Really? I can dictate for more then about 30 seconds. I don't think there 
 is as it needs time to process. I find that dictating a sentence at  a 
 time works well.

 Take care.
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Hi All,
 I have tried the dictate button on my iPhone, and Dragon Dictate, and 
 all of
 that stops dictation after 30 seconds.
 Is there an app out there that will allow you to keep dictating for a 
 longer
 time?
 Thanks.
 Glenn

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RE: proximity sensor?

2013-01-30 Thread David Griffith
The  I Glasses are definitely not a long cane replacement - they are an
additional aid to prevent you hitting head height obstacles like branches
signs open windows etc.  The long cane has no possibility of  detecting
hazards of this kind.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: 30 January 2013 18:09
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: proximity sensor?

There is a less expensive device on the market...
It is called a long-white cane.
Seriously, why would one worry about objects in their proximity and not 
use a long cane?
Glenn

- Original Message -
From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:31 AM
Subject: RE: proximity sensor?


I do not know of such a product but wonder why you feel they would be
conspicuous?
They are very little different from a normal pair of sun shield glasses.

David Griffith


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 January 2013 10:33
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: proximity sensor?

HiAll,

just read about glasses you can wear that vibrate when your upper torso is
approaching an obstacle. Sold by RNIB in UK. Price £60.

I would feel conspicuous wearing these, but it got me thinking about whether
a more discreet proximity sensor that could be linked by bluetooth to my
phone which would then provide the vibration.

Has anyone seen a product like this or any idea who to approach to develop?

Ian

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Re: iPod 4th generation upgrade to iOS 6.1 stuck

2013-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Take in to account that apples servers were overloaded but every time I've done 
one of these it only took 10minutes or so maybe fifteen but that's rare. 

Good luck. 

On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:15, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 I haven't yet upgraded my IPod, but a friend of mind upgraded his IPhone, and 
 he said that it took an hour, so I'm going by what other people said.
 When I do upgrade my IPod, I hope that it only takes the time that you say.
 Take care.On 2013-01-30, at 11:49 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Huh? my upgrade and reboot only took about 2 minutes. lol! Not an hour. It 
 should not take that long, even if you did an ota. update. 
 
 Take care.
 On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 don't do anything, because your IPod is automatically shutdown while it's 
 upgrading.
 Wait for an hour or two, and it will come back.
 On 2013-01-30, at 7:52 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
 The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
 anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
 I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
 Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device unstuck?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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Re: dictation on IOS

2013-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm I don't think there is such a beast. You would need a human to transcribe 
that thing for you. 

If I'm wrong someone let me know. U

On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:14, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Sarah,
 It is not a matter of accuracy, in fact, I speak in a regular manner, and it 
 gets at least 95% correct for me.
 I am referring to the 30 second limit on dictation.
 I need an app that does like list recorder, the app, and will also process 
 the recording into text and do it all on the same device, not having to 
 upload it to a PC.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: dictation on IOS
 
 
 I never would dictate a book but the key is to
 
 1. speak slower then you would with normal speech.
 
 2. enunciate. Pretend you are a classical singer
 
 3. dictate 1 perhaps 2 sentences at a time.. If they are long, split them in 
 half.
 
 I do this with about 95 percent accuracy. If only it would get my last name 
 right though. lol!
 
 Hope that helps someone.
 On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 
 I've also had the issue that Glenn is describing.
 
 Chris Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 http://www.clgproductions.com
 E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
 Phone: 803-760-7136
 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: dictation on IOS
 
 
 Really? I can dictate for more then about 30 seconds. I don't think there 
 is as it needs time to process. I find that dictating a sentence at  a 
 time works well.
 
 Take care.
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I have tried the dictate button on my iPhone, and Dragon Dictate, and 
 all of
 that stops dictation after 30 seconds.
 Is there an app out there that will allow you to keep dictating for a 
 longer
 time?
 Thanks.
 Glenn
 
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Re: proximity sensor?

2013-01-30 Thread Glenn
That might be useful, but Ian was concerned about his torso.
Glenn
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From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: proximity sensor?


The  I Glasses are definitely not a long cane replacement - they are an
additional aid to prevent you hitting head height obstacles like branches
signs open windows etc.  The long cane has no possibility of  detecting
hazards of this kind.

David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: 30 January 2013 18:09
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: proximity sensor?

There is a less expensive device on the market...
It is called a long-white cane.
Seriously, why would one worry about objects in their proximity and not
use a long cane?
Glenn

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From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:31 AM
Subject: RE: proximity sensor?


I do not know of such a product but wonder why you feel they would be
conspicuous?
They are very little different from a normal pair of sun shield glasses.

David Griffith


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 January 2013 10:33
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: proximity sensor?

HiAll,

just read about glasses you can wear that vibrate when your upper torso is
approaching an obstacle. Sold by RNIB in UK. Price £60.

I would feel conspicuous wearing these, but it got me thinking about whether
a more discreet proximity sensor that could be linked by bluetooth to my
phone which would then provide the vibration.

Has anyone seen a product like this or any idea who to approach to develop?

Ian

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