Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
Hello Brenda, I use an iPhone 5 and the StandScan Pro is a foldable box with interior lighting and a hole in the centre of the top. You place a smart phone, in my case the iPhone 5, with its camera pointing down through the hole, and take a picture of a document that you place in the bottom of the box. The box is designed so that you get a good quality picture every time, even if you can't see anything at all. The best OCR app for working with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber. However, if you haven't got the StandScan Pro, the best OCR app for the iPhone is Prizmo, which is much more forgiving about not having the document quite straight. Talking Goggles works wonderfully for identifying books, CDs and other objects that can be compared with existing images. The cover of a particular CD is always the same so it does not take a human to make the comparison. I hope this clarifies things a bit. Cheers, Anne On 10 Apr 2013, at 02:51, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
how to use time machine
hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Problem closing windows
Hi, Ah sorry, I still don't understand. If the app has no windows how come it's still there? I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app? What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any more, don't want it showing in the app chooser? How do I close it? It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused... Catherine On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w. Often to reshow for lack of a better word a window you can go to the view menu and down arrow to what ever window it is you want to show or memorize the key strokes. Take care. On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed. Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is and then I can't close them. Sometimes in this situation if I try flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows. At the moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well. Can anyone help? Catherine --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Twitter: CTurner1980 My blog: http://catherineturner.wordpress.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
vocal cut in Amadeus Pro
hello listers, i was wondering if anyone new if there is a vocal cut in Amadeus Pro? i know in gold wave you can do this effect and i herd somewhere that it can be done in Amadeus Pro. thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Talking Goggles for IOS
I have not tried talking Goggles yet but as I understand this is targeted at text recognition. If you are looking for product recognition I have had good results from Taptapsee . It recognises different boxes of tea I use for example. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlar...@cox.net Sent: 10 April 2013 04:38 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS I'm not sure, to be exact. Seems I scanned everywhere on the box or bottle or dan that I might have tried and no go. I just couldn't do it. Does the camera click to take a picture like it does with tap tap see? Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hi Brenda, I wonder if your difficulties with Red Laser were that maybe you did not scan in the right area of the item? I have found it to find the barcodes better than DigitEyes. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I think you'd be better off using an OCR app for that purpose. SayText is free but I've never had much success with it. I prefer Prizmo for using free hand, or TextGrabber for use with my StandScan Pro. Talking Goggles will probably read some of the text, but not all. Cheers, Anne On 9 Apr 2013, at 16:54, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do you think it would work reading CD inserts? I'll explain. I have made some homemade compilation disks of different artists and so on. I typed an insert for each case. I'm just wondering if this would do the trick. I had all that at one time, in files, but my computer crashed and am looking for a way to rebuild what I lost. I could do that, if one of these apps could read my inserts. All were typed on my computer. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:46 AM Subject: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello everyone, I haven't seen any mention of this app on this list and I should hate for anyone to missout on it. Talking Goggles is an app that uses the IOS device's camera to identify common objects, pictures and all kinds of text. It offers a vast number of languages although it is not itself localised into any language other than English. Its buttons, however, are very simple so localisation is not essential. Using this app in video mode, I can identify books by just holding the front cover of the book about a foot away from the iPhone. It takes a matter of seconds for a book to be recognised and, if the book is in another language and the app is set to English, it will translate the title. I've also used Talking Goggles to distinguish between two packaged products which are identical to the touch. One was artichoke hearts and the other peppers stuffed with cheese. I set the app to French although quite a lot of the information on these packages is in German. I got sufficient information within seconds to be able to distinguish between the two. This app has five buttons at the bottom of the screen. Starting from the left: 1) Flash - marked Off when off and On when on. 2) Flag - Marked En for English. Double tap it to change the language. 3) Gallery - This is the camera roll. 4) Record or Stop or Camera copy14 - When Video is running, it is labelled Stop; when Video is selected but not running, it's labelled Record, and when Still camera is selected, it's labelled Camera copy14. 5) Video Camera or Still Camera - This button is confusing as it is labelled Video Camera when the Still Camera is selected, and Vice Versa. This app is self-voicing to take care of the various languages, but in Video mode, by flicking around the screen, VoiceOver will repeat what has been said. This app is not free, but it only costs a matter of pennies, euro cents or whatever. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages
Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
It sure does. Being I'm wanting to mainly identify homemade CD's, I probably will go with Prismo. That probably would be the best thing to do. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I use an iPhone 5 and the StandScan Pro is a foldable box with interior lighting and a hole in the centre of the top. You place a smart phone, in my case the iPhone 5, with its camera pointing down through the hole, and take a picture of a document that you place in the bottom of the box. The box is designed so that you get a good quality picture every time, even if you can't see anything at all. The best OCR app for working with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber. However, if you haven't got the StandScan Pro, the best OCR app for the iPhone is Prizmo, which is much more forgiving about not having the document quite straight. Talking Goggles works wonderfully for identifying books, CDs and other objects that can be compared with existing images. The cover of a particular CD is always the same so it does not take a human to make the comparison. I hope this clarifies things a bit. Cheers, Anne On 10 Apr 2013, at 02:51, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how to use time machine
first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Problem closing windows
Hi to close Apps use command Q that is the one you want! HTH Colin On 10 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Ah sorry, I still don't understand. If the app has no windows how come it's still there? I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app? What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any more, don't want it showing in the app chooser? How do I close it? It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused... Catherine On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w. Often to reshow for lack of a better word a window you can go to the view menu and down arrow to what ever window it is you want to show or memorise the key strokes. Take care. On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed. Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is and then I can't close them. Sometimes in this situation if I try flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows. At the moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well. Can anyone help? Catherine --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Twitter: CTurner1980 My blog: http://catherineturner.wordpress.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: Problem closing windows
Just hit cmd q to quit the app all together. The reason the app is still there is you can still view windows by key strokes or by going to the window menu. This is the case 99 percent of the time. I do this all the time in mail. I want my mail running but I don't want to see all of my folders. I want a blank there. Take care. On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Ah sorry, I still don't understand. If the app has no windows how come it's still there? I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app? What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any more, don't want it showing in the app chooser? How do I close it? It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused... Catherine On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w. Often to reshow for lack of a better word a window you can go to the view menu and down arrow to what ever window it is you want to show or memorize the key strokes. Take care. On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed. Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is and then I can't close them. Sometimes in this situation if I try flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows. At the moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well. Can anyone help? Catherine --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Twitter: CTurner1980 My blog: http://catherineturner.wordpress.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom
Has anyone had any experience with using WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom property in HTML5 in VoiceOver? If working, VoiceOver should provide an pop-up/alert where the options to navigate a page would be listed and selectable. This would be most useful in a flow-chart or org-chart, where the relationship of the levels of navigation is important. Thanks, Carolyn Wagner --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using VoiceOver in the terminal
I have posted multiple times about settings for terminal to maximize the experience for vo users. However, in general, terminal works just fine with vo. It's a bit lacking when it comes to compiling programs, as it has a tendency to skip loads and loads of text, but otherwise, it works very well, even via ssh. The only major show stopper when it comes to vo and terminal is the fact that you can't go down/up lines and remain where you are in the current screen column. This makes it very difficult to tell where compiler errors may be located, as the little ^ symbol most command-line compilers use cannot be located easily simply by going up a line, since vo likes to return to the start/end of line depending on which way you're going. What specific problems are you having with vo under terminal, and what have you done to attempt to solve the issues. You'll need to search the list archives to find my posts on configuring vo for best use under terminal, but for the most part, the default settings are enough to get you most of what you need under terminal. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
Hi you've got the wrong spelling! Prizmo with a z not s! HTH Colin On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:02, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Anne, is that software called Prismo Mirage? There is one on the app store called Prismo Mirage and another one called Mirage Ware or something like that. Which one do I go for? Thanks in advance, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I use an iPhone 5 and the StandScan Pro is a foldable box with interior lighting and a hole in the centre of the top. You place a smart phone, in my case the iPhone 5, with its camera pointing down through the hole, and take a picture of a document that you place in the bottom of the box. The box is designed so that you get a good quality picture every time, even if you can't see anything at all. The best OCR app for working with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber. However, if you haven't got the StandScan Pro, the best OCR app for the iPhone is Prizmo, which is much more forgiving about not having the document quite straight. Talking Goggles works wonderfully for identifying books, CDs and other objects that can be compared with existing images. The cover of a particular CD is always the same so it does not take a human to make the comparison. I hope this clarifies things a bit. Cheers, Anne On 10 Apr 2013, at 02:51, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using VoiceOver in the terminal
Agree. I only changed stuff with the cursor so it didn't keep skipping things so much. On 10 Apr 2013, at 18:12, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: I have posted multiple times about settings for terminal to maximize the experience for vo users. However, in general, terminal works just fine with vo. It's a bit lacking when it comes to compiling programs, as it has a tendency to skip loads and loads of text, but otherwise, it works very well, even via ssh. The only major show stopper when it comes to vo and terminal is the fact that you can't go down/up lines and remain where you are in the current screen column. This makes it very difficult to tell where compiler errors may be located, as the little ^ symbol most command-line compilers use cannot be located easily simply by going up a line, since vo likes to return to the start/end of line depending on which way you're going. What specific problems are you having with vo under terminal, and what have you done to attempt to solve the issues. You'll need to search the list archives to find my posts on configuring vo for best use under terminal, but for the most part, the default settings are enough to get you most of what you need under terminal. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
Okay, cool. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS I think you want Prizmo... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:02 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Anne, is that software called Prismo Mirage? There is one on the app store called Prismo Mirage and another one called Mirage Ware or something like that. Which one do I go for? Thanks in advance, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I use an iPhone 5 and the StandScan Pro is a foldable box with interior lighting and a hole in the centre of the top. You place a smart phone, in my case the iPhone 5, with its camera pointing down through the hole, and take a picture of a document that you place in the bottom of the box. The box is designed so that you get a good quality picture every time, even if you can't see anything at all. The best OCR app for working with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber. However, if you haven't got the StandScan Pro, the best OCR app for the iPhone is Prizmo, which is much more forgiving about not having the document quite straight. Talking Goggles works wonderfully for identifying books, CDs and other objects that can be compared with existing images. The cover of a particular CD is always the same so it does not take a human to make the comparison. I hope this clarifies things a bit. Cheers, Anne On 10 Apr 2013, at 02:51, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Re: how to use time machine
hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how to use time machine
Yes, you will want to hold this combination down immediately when you turn on your Mac, then Hold it for like 30 seconds, wait like five seconds, and, because VoiceOver will not automatically turn on here, you'll need to turn it on by pressing command + F5. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Using VoiceOver in the terminal
Hello Christian, Travis has already replied to you about searching the archives for posts on using terminal. I'll give you a direct link to one of his archived posts that gives a pretty complete explanation of how to configure terminal, since it dates from before this list started using the Mail-Archive web site with its easier search interface. • Tips on using terminal (October 13, 2010) http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2010/004769.html There are a few other small tips for someone working between the GUI interface of the Mac and terminal. First, there is a free app in the Mac App store named Go2Shell: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/go2shell/id445770608?mt=12 Go2Shell opens a terminal window to the current directory in Finder. It supports shells other than bash, and iterm, iterm2, and xterm windows in addition to terminal. You can configure it using the command (from terminal): open -a Go2Shell --args config Then set up your preferences in the window. Another useful tip is that you can use command-c from the Finder GUI to copy the location of a file or folder and paste it in with command-v as an argument to a command in terminal. The full path to that file is always copied that way. For man pages, you can use a free app named bwana that works through Safari, or you can use shell commands to display them in terminal. Mac-access list posts are searchable in the public Mail Archive link that appears at the bottom of each email post: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/ Just type the app name bwana (without quotes) into the text box on this web page and press return to get a list of results. Activate the first link (with VO-Space in Safari, or by pressing your right and left arrow keys if QuickNav is turned on; or by double tapping on the trackpad if you're using trackpad navigation instead of a keyboard). This should be Travis' post: • Re: Man page entries sent to TextEdit or Preview [was Re: TerminalQuery] http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg01731.html If you're reading the archive pages on a Mac, use the access key combination Control+p to read the previous post in the thread, which is my post giving ways to set up a variant pman or tman command in my .profile to send the results of the man command to Preview or TextEdit when I work in terminal. The Mail Archive page supports wild cards, regular expressions, and Boolean arguments in the search terms, and searching by author, date range, or subject. I rarely need to use all these features, since just typing in a few search terms gives good results. I may filter the search by author, e.g., by adding from: Travis (no quotes needed unless the I'm using both first and last name, space after the colon is optional, and words are case insensitive). If I want to get only the first posts in threads, I'll add -Re to exclude replies, and if I want the results listed by date, instead of relevancy, I'll add sort:newest or sort:oldest to my search terms. For more details, read the Mail Archive FAQ at: http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html Useful topics include search syntax, and support of keyboard shortcuts. The ability to use access key shortcuts to read up and down threads is one of my favorite features, and this works on multiple browser/operating system combinations. In Safari, use Control-n and Control-p to navigate to the next or previous post in a thread. In Internet Explorer on Windows, use Alt-n and Alt-p. In Firefox on linux or Windows, use Alt-Shift-n and and Alt-Shift-p. (On a Mac, I think the Firefox access key prefix is Control.) So you just need to use the appropriate access key for your browser and platform. There are a couple of useful web pages for people coming to the Mac from linux or unix. Here's one: • Five must-known commands for Mac OS X Terminal by Dave Taylor (April 25, 2012 at the O'Reilly Answers pages): http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/3324-five-must-known-commands-for-mac-os-x-terminal/ The usefulness of some of these features was not apparent to me when I first started using the Mac, but the open option is used in the options I used to send man page output to terminal or preview, as mentioned above. The textutil command to convert file formats on the command line was used to answer Sarah's question about a way to batch convert her .rtf files to .txt files. You can find more about this in the archives. There's a really old O'Reilly web page dating in 2002 on the Top Ten Mac OS X Tips for Unix Geeks: http://macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/2792 It's still good for a quick summary info, but the default shell has long since changed from tcsh to bash, and the way startup is handled is completely different. For Mac users coming from a Linux or Unix background, there are the older O'Reilly books like Mac OS X for Unix Geeks (Leopard), 4th Edition by Ernest E. Rothman, Brian Jepson, and Rich Rosen:
Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
Hey Brenda, With Red Laser, the light comes on, and it makes no sound, it seems to be scanning, and it will make a sound when it finds the barcode. My phone is dead, or I'd check, but I think there is a scan tab you select, and then just double-tap the single-scan, or multiple-scan button, and that is when the light comes on and it's scanning. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS I'm not sure, to be exact. Seems I scanned everywhere on the box or bottle or dan that I might have tried and no go. I just couldn't do it. Does the camera click to take a picture like it does with tap tap see? Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hi Brenda, I wonder if your difficulties with Red Laser were that maybe you did not scan in the right area of the item? I have found it to find the barcodes better than DigitEyes. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I think you'd be better off using an OCR app for that purpose. SayText is free but I've never had much success with it. I prefer Prizmo for using free hand, or TextGrabber for use with my StandScan Pro. Talking Goggles will probably read some of the text, but not all. Cheers, Anne On 9 Apr 2013, at 16:54, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do you think it would work reading CD inserts? I'll explain. I have made some homemade compilation disks of different artists and so on. I typed an insert for each case. I'm just wondering if this would do the trick. I had all that at one time, in files, but my computer crashed and am looking for a way to rebuild what I lost. I could do that, if one of these apps could read my inserts. All were typed on my computer. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:46 AM Subject: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello everyone, I haven't seen any mention of this app on this list and I should hate for anyone to missout on it. Talking Goggles is an app that uses the IOS device's camera to identify common objects, pictures and all kinds of text. It offers a vast number of languages although it is not itself localised into any language other than English. Its buttons, however, are very simple so localisation is not essential. Using this app in video mode, I can identify books by just holding the front cover of the book about a foot away from the iPhone. It takes a matter of seconds for a book to be recognised and, if the book is in another language and the app is set to English, it will translate the title. I've also used Talking Goggles to distinguish between two packaged products which are identical to the touch. One was artichoke hearts and the other peppers stuffed with cheese. I set the app to French although quite a lot of the information on these packages is in German. I got sufficient information within seconds to be able to distinguish between the two. This app has five buttons at the bottom of the screen. Starting from the left: 1) Flash - marked Off when off and On when on. 2) Flag - Marked En for English. Double tap it to change the language. 3) Gallery - This is the camera roll. 4) Record or Stop or Camera copy14 - When Video is running, it is labelled Stop; when Video is selected but not running, it's labelled Record, and when Still camera is selected, it's labelled Camera copy14. 5) Video Camera or Still Camera - This button is confusing as it is labelled Video Camera when the Still Camera is selected, and Vice Versa. This app is self-voicing to take care of the various languages, but in Video mode, by flicking around the screen, VoiceOver will repeat what has been said. This app is not free, but it only costs a matter of pennies, euro cents or whatever. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: how to use time machine
hey, thanks for getting back to me. at least now i have this info for my own piece of mined. On 11/04/2013, at 7:50 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you will want to hold this combination down immediately when you turn on your Mac, then Hold it for like 30 seconds, wait like five seconds, and, because VoiceOver will not automatically turn on here, you'll need to turn it on by pressing command + F5. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability
Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
Mine never did make that sound. It went on, because I had selected the scan tab. It kept saying tap to focus bar code. No matter what I did, and what I tried to scan, it was no go here. But thanks. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hey Brenda, With Red Laser, the light comes on, and it makes no sound, it seems to be scanning, and it will make a sound when it finds the barcode. My phone is dead, or I'd check, but I think there is a scan tab you select, and then just double-tap the single-scan, or multiple-scan button, and that is when the light comes on and it's scanning. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS I'm not sure, to be exact. Seems I scanned everywhere on the box or bottle or dan that I might have tried and no go. I just couldn't do it. Does the camera click to take a picture like it does with tap tap see? Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hi Brenda, I wonder if your difficulties with Red Laser were that maybe you did not scan in the right area of the item? I have found it to find the barcodes better than DigitEyes. Glenn - Original Message - From: meadowlar...@cox.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone scanner, right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to me here. I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything. Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this. Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello Brenda, I think you'd be better off using an OCR app for that purpose. SayText is free but I've never had much success with it. I prefer Prizmo for using free hand, or TextGrabber for use with my StandScan Pro. Talking Goggles will probably read some of the text, but not all. Cheers, Anne On 9 Apr 2013, at 16:54, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote: Do you think it would work reading CD inserts? I'll explain. I have made some homemade compilation disks of different artists and so on. I typed an insert for each case. I'm just wondering if this would do the trick. I had all that at one time, in files, but my computer crashed and am looking for a way to rebuild what I lost. I could do that, if one of these apps could read my inserts. All were typed on my computer. Take care, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:46 AM Subject: Talking Goggles for IOS Hello everyone, I haven't seen any mention of this app on this list and I should hate for anyone to missout on it. Talking Goggles is an app that uses the IOS device's camera to identify common objects, pictures and all kinds of text. It offers a vast number of languages although it is not itself localised into any language other than English. Its buttons, however, are very simple so localisation is not essential. Using this app in video mode, I can identify books by just holding the front cover of the book about a foot away from the iPhone. It takes a matter of seconds for a book to be recognised and, if the book is in another language and the app is set to English, it will translate the title. I've also used Talking Goggles to distinguish between two packaged products which are identical to the touch. One was artichoke hearts and the other peppers stuffed with cheese. I set the app to French although quite a lot of the information on these packages is in German. I got sufficient information within seconds to be able to distinguish between the two. This app has five buttons at the bottom of the screen. Starting from the left: 1) Flash - marked Off when off and On when on. 2) Flag - Marked En for English. Double tap it to change the language. 3) Gallery - This is the camera roll. 4) Record or Stop or Camera copy14 - When Video is running, it is labelled Stop; when Video is selected but not running, it's labelled Record, and when Still camera is selected, it's labelled Camera copy14. 5) Video Camera or Still Camera - This button is confusing
Re: how to use time machine
No problem, glad I was able to assist. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. at least now i have this info for my own piece of mined. On 11/04/2013, at 7:50 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you will want to hold this combination down immediately when you turn on your Mac, then Hold it for like 30 seconds, wait like five seconds, and, because VoiceOver will not automatically turn on here, you'll need to turn it on by pressing command + F5. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware,
Terminal Question
Hellow, Does anyone know how to move a file from one location to another using the terminal? I can never remember the command. Also, how do I go about checking the permisions on a file using the terminal? Thanks, Harmony. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Terminal Question
OK, to check the file permissions, you can use the ls command. man ls If you want to move a file: man mv Example: mv ~/Documents/file-A.txt ~/new-file-location/File-A.txt Basically mv, path to original file, path where you want it to be moved. This also works when renaming files. For example: mv ~/Documents/Fil1.txt ~/Documents/File2.txt Chris. On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hellow, Does anyone know how to move a file from one location to another using the terminal? I can never remember the command. Also, how do I go about checking the permisions on a file using the terminal? Thanks, Harmony. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
hilighting blocks of text with VO on the internet
hello listers, i'm trying to copy a few lines of text from a webpage and can not remember for the life of me how to solect it all for copying how do i go about this? thanks for any help Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom
I'm a little behind in my HTML. Can you give an example if possible where a site where this is occurring occurs? On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:08, Carolyn Wagner wagner...@verizon.net wrote: Has anyone had any experience with using WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom property in HTML5 in VoiceOver? If working, VoiceOver should provide an pop-up/alert where the options to navigate a page would be listed and selectable. This would be most useful in a flow-chart or org-chart, where the relationship of the levels of navigation is important. Thanks, Carolyn Wagner --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how to use time machine
In my case, my Hard drive makes two clicks. That way I know I'm in the recovery console. Then I let up on the keystroke as suggested, and hit command F5 straightaway. Take care On Apr 10, 2013, at 15:41, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. at least now i have this info for my own piece of mined. On 11/04/2013, at 7:50 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you will want to hold this combination down immediately when you turn on your Mac, then Hold it for like 30 seconds, wait like five seconds, and, because VoiceOver will not automatically turn on here, you'll need to turn it on by pressing command + F5. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As
Re: WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom
Yes, here is a link: http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-flowto.html This page also offers some explanation, which is helpful. On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'm a little behind in my HTML. Can you give an example if possible where a site where this is occurring occurs? On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:08, Carolyn Wagner wagner...@verizon.net wrote: Has anyone had any experience with using WAI-ARIA flowto/flowfrom property in HTML5 in VoiceOver? If working, VoiceOver should provide an pop-up/alert where the options to navigate a page would be listed and selectable. This would be most useful in a flow-chart or org-chart, where the relationship of the levels of navigation is important. Thanks, Carolyn Wagner --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how to use time machine
hey, thanks for that info. my harddrive is amazingly quiet but i should be good with it. On 11/04/2013, at 12:58 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: In my case, my Hard drive makes two clicks. That way I know I'm in the recovery console. Then I let up on the keystroke as suggested, and hit command F5 straightaway. Take care On Apr 10, 2013, at 15:41, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. at least now i have this info for my own piece of mined. On 11/04/2013, at 7:50 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you will want to hold this combination down immediately when you turn on your Mac, then Hold it for like 30 seconds, wait like five seconds, and, because VoiceOver will not automatically turn on here, you'll need to turn it on by pressing command + F5. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, thanks for getting back to me. when i turn on the mac do i hit command r strate away? how will i know if it worked? that is to say how will i know i'm in the recovery moad? i know this moad works with VO from what i have read in the past. how do you set backup options in time machine? the only thing i know how to do is to set what files i don't want to back up. it could be just me but i found it a little hard to work with in some ways. thanks for your help on this. Michael On 11/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: first connect your Time Machine drive. Then start up your Mac from the Mountain Lion recovery partition by pressing (and holding down) Command-R at startup. This launches Recovery Mode, a portion of your drive that Mountain Lion treats as a separate volume. It includes a few essential utilities for restoring files in case of a problem. For this approach to work, you must have a complete Time Machine backup that includes all system files. The Mac OS X Utilities window appears. Select Restore From Time Machine Backup. This command will erase the destination drive—your Mac—so use it only if you’re restoring an entire volume to its original source or to a replacement drive. On 4/10/13, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers, i have just set up time machine on my mac and i have done a backup. just for my own piece of mined how do you go about restoring your mac to a time machine backup using VO? thanks for any help. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
