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Sorry but what is this? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 28/06/2014 10:41, Elizabeth Lystad wrote: Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now. Good luck. On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes Eleanor Martha Burke On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now. Good luck. On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem
Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me off! If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my login details for them to try. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem
I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work around. Hope yo have success with it - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me off! If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my login details for them to try. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem
Andy, I have some vision. Now what is happening is that when I click on the Accept button to start the recording Java kicks in as the programme requires Java and crashes and there is nothing visual on the screen except mouse pointer. VO says Java busy. Now if I turn off VO and then a sighted person clicks on the Accept button then the programme opens just fine and they can click on the listen button. However I do not know how to manage the click on the accept button and then the play button myself. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work around. Hope yo have success with it - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me off! If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my login details for them to try. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem
Yes, I think I understand. I have tried a few ways of getting around similar experiences, but with no success. I do hope that Apple address this one soon - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:25, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, I have some vision. Now what is happening is that when I click on the Accept button to start the recording Java kicks in as the programme requires Java and crashes and there is nothing visual on the screen except mouse pointer. VO says Java busy. Now if I turn off VO and then a sighted person clicks on the Accept button then the programme opens just fine and they can click on the listen button. However I do not know how to manage the click on the accept button and then the play button myself. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work around. Hope yo have success with it - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me off! If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my login details for them to try. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem
I will certainly get in touch with them about it Eleanor Martha Burke On 28 Jun 2014, at 22:34, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Yes, I think I understand. I have tried a few ways of getting around similar experiences, but with no success. I do hope that Apple address this one soon - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:25, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, I have some vision. Now what is happening is that when I click on the Accept button to start the recording Java kicks in as the programme requires Java and crashes and there is nothing visual on the screen except mouse pointer. VO says Java busy. Now if I turn off VO and then a sighted person clicks on the Accept button then the programme opens just fine and they can click on the listen button. However I do not know how to manage the click on the accept button and then the play button myself. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work around. Hope yo have success with it - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me off! If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my login details for them to try. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS - Andy On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update
RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole point is that she suggests you turn it off. Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant button. then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. Then physically click the Trackpad which should logically start the Video playing. Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy messages. Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to accessibil...@apple.com to look at this. I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is possible that they responded to my query. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes Eleanor Martha Burke On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now. Good luck. On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will change and I then need to hit a play button Eleanor Martha Burke On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole point is that she suggests you turn it off. Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant button. then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. Then physically click the Trackpad which should logically start the Video playing. Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy messages. Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to accessibil...@apple.com to look at this. I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is possible that they responded to my query. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes Eleanor Martha Burke On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now. Good luck. On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over. My Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem
Hi Eleanor, As a modification of Sarah's suggestion, can you use Mouse Keys to click the buttons for accept and play, with VoiceOver turned off if necessary, in order to use the web site without crashing? If the crash is caused by VoiceOver's software simulation of key clicks with VO-Space or VO-Shift-Space, using Mouse Keys to click for you (by pressing the i key on a laptop keyboard, or Control+the 5 key on the numeric keypad of a full-sized keyboard after Mouse Keys are turned on) might work without your even having to toggle VoiceOver off before you click. Are both buttons for accept and play displayed on the same web page? If so, you can move to these controls without actually clicking the buttons first with VoiceOver, check their screen locations with VO-F5-F5, then figure out how many Mouse Key key presses are needed to move from one control to the other (without VoiceOver), turn VoiceOver off, and perform these actions with Mouse Keys on (but VoiceOver off). Perhaps once play has started you can turn VoiceOver back on again. You will need to go to System Preferences Accessibility and select Mouse Trackpad in the accessibility features table, then instead of simply checking the Enable Mouse Keys check box, navigate to the Options button and press it, then check the box for Press the Option key five times to toggle Mouse Keys and press return (or navigate to the Done button). This will let you toggle mouse keys on or off by pressing the Option key 5 times. Mouse Keys are designed to allow people with motor disabilities to perform precise actions requiring fine control, such as moving mouse cursors or clicking their mouse or trackpad, with keyboard controls. I've only used it with VoiceOver in a few situations. The first is when a physical mouse click with trackpad or cursor is required. The VO-Shift-Space shortcut is a simulated mouse click implemented by software. The VO-Space shortcut is another software defined shortcut that performs the default action -- which could be pressing a button, clicking on link, selecting a menu option, etc. depending on context. There are some instances, especially in situations where applications are not fully accessible or are transitioning in accessibility with VoiceOver, where these kinds of software clicks do not work, and you have to physically click your trackpad or mouse for your click to take effect. In these instances, performing a click with Mouse Keys mode turned on is equi valent to physically clicking with mouse or trackpad. The NumPad Commander keyboard shortcut for a key click, of Control + 5 on the numeric keypad will also work. It's possible the software emulation of your keyclicks is causing your crashes, so either performing a click with Mouse Keys, even with VoiceOver turned on, might solve your problem. And if having VoiceOver after the key is pressed causes your crash, you might be able to move to each control and press it entirely using Mouse Keys but keeping VoiceOver turned off. In addition to allowing users to click a mouse or trackpad without moving the position of the mouse pointer, Mouse Keys mode lets you move the mouse pointer position on the screen in pixel increments by using key strokes. So the second circumstance in which I've used Mouse Keys is for instances when I need to move the mouse pointer to locations that VoiceOver doesn't navigate to, in order to click on controls. The most common example of this usage is when trying to deal with flash controls on a web page. VoiceOver can't see these controls, in the sense that you can't use VoiceOver commands to navigate to them, since Adobe's Flash does not comply with Apple's accessibility API. However, if you manage to move your mouse pointer over a flash control independently of using VoiceOver's cursor, because you've turned cursor tracking off (with VO-Shift-F3), VoiceOver can tell you what is under your mouse pointer (with VO-F5, or by checking the box for Speak text under mouse after delay in the Announcements tab of Verbosity in VoiceOver Utility) and will even describe the screen coordinate location of your mouse pointer (VO-F5-F5 or VO-F5-F5-F5). So the way I used to play the Audible audio book sound samples before they changed their web pages from Flash only to HTML 5 versions was by navigating to Sample with VoiceOver, then turning keyboard tracking off, and Mouse Keys on, and moving the mouse pointer 50 pixels to the left of Sample so that the player control was under the mouse pointer. Then I would click to start the sample playing. On extended keyboards, Mouse Keys uses the numeric keypad, with the central 5 key to designate the current position of the mouse. To move the mouse pointer 1 pixel to the left, you press the key the left of the 5 key once, and similarly if you want to move to the right, up, down. or diagonally. You use the nine number keys (1-9, with 5 in the central
