Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

2015-01-08 Thread michael's mail boxl

Okay Thanks Sarah i will try it.
I must get in to playing some more of your pod casts to learn i am bit rusty 
on my mac of late.

I enjoy your pod casts thanks.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 6:28 AM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

It will, or might, tell you the problem but it will not fix your modem. It 
should work though.
On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:05 AM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Okay thanks Sarah you are very  smart.
Will that diagnose actually config my modem or just tell me what is the 
problem.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:13 PM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

There is no fix connection button, but there is a diagnose button in the 
network prefs you can use.


Hth.
On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:01 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi Sarah i have done all that but my modem just will not conect the last 
time it did it my iphone managed to get me back on line.
I am getting sick of the modem playing up but it will only do this every 
few months.
But since I can fnot find this fix conection button it is driving me 
crazy.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:46 PM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

I have problems as well, what I often do is run down stairs and reset the 
modem by hand by power cycling it, then  wait until it turns back on, 
then use the terminal to see if I'm really on line and what ip I'm using.
On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:29 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi Travis no I have a
ADSL 2 internet.
The prproblem is my thomson modem every now and then chucks a fit and 
will not conect me to the net I can power cycle and  go in to the modem 
set up page and try an dconect and it will not.
The only way was with my macbook after safari told me the page could not 
be displayed i was able to tab to a fix internet problems.

But now since the new updates for safari and the os it does not show up.
Even on my windows machine it has a fix internet button but as usual 
windows could never fix it anyway.
But on my macbook was the only way i could fix it I think it would re 
config the modem for me and no more problems for ages.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:06 PM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

If your connection to the internet is via dial-up, safari isn't the 
program you should be using to fix connection issues.
You need to get into network options, and configure from there (though 
I've never done a dial-up connection on OSX, so can't help with the 
specifics at that point, but system preferences/network would be the 
place the configuration would be most likely to be.  Likely in the table 
of connection types (ethernet, bluetooth, firewire, what have you) in 
that table there is likely a dial-up or modem option.  That's where you 
would configure it.



On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:45 PM, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys i not sure if my email went through or not. but I did not get 
any

answers.
I am having trouble  after my modem stuffed up and safari said the page 
can’t

be displayed.
So I use to be able to tab to a button called fix internet conections 
and it

would re config my modem till next  time.
But now I can’t see that button any where.
I interact with the html secttion wwitch is the message this page can’t 
be

displayed.
Can any body tell me how i can find this fix internet button or has it 
gone

in the later  safari.
Cheers michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: requesting some help from anyone using Amadeus Pro

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks for this info, i have a ton of plugins will have a play.
thanks

Michael
 On 9 Jan 2015, at 4:46 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try using a vst effect. You can grab them from the amadeus site. Install them 
 by following the directions, then compress, or hard limit the file to prevent 
 this.
 
 Take care. 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 i'm trying to edit some old tape files witch i downloaded and i have come 
 across a problem witch even google can not help me with.
 some of the tape files have parts that are super loud and i want to drop the 
 volume. i don't want to have to go through the file to find each individual 
 part. Is there an effect I can use to turn the loud parts down? Could 
 normalise achieve this effect?
 i didn't have much luck with it last time.
 
 any help would be fantastic.
 thanks
 
 Michael
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[Mac-access]: requesting some help from anyone using Amadeus Pro

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Marshall
hey all,
i'm trying to edit some old tape files witch i downloaded and i have come 
across a problem witch even google can not help me with.
some of the tape files have parts that are super loud and i want to drop the 
volume. i don't want to have to go through the file to find each individual 
part. Is there an effect I can use to turn the loud parts down? Could normalise 
achieve this effect?
i didn't have much luck with it last time.

any help would be fantastic.
thanks

Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: requesting some help from anyone using Amadeus Pro

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
The effects did not do what I wanted them to do.
you have a bit at normal volume and then suddenly it goes really really loud. i 
really need to get the file to the same volume from start to end.
thanks

Michael
 On 9 Jan 2015, at 4:46 pm, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try using a vst effect. You can grab them from the amadeus site. Install them 
 by following the directions, then compress, or hard limit the file to prevent 
 this.
 
 Take care. 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 i'm trying to edit some old tape files witch i downloaded and i have come 
 across a problem witch even google can not help me with.
 some of the tape files have parts that are super loud and i want to drop the 
 volume. i don't want to have to go through the file to find each individual 
 part. Is there an effect I can use to turn the loud parts down? Could 
 normalise achieve this effect?
 i didn't have much luck with it last time.
 
 any help would be fantastic.
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: requesting some help from anyone using Amadeus Pro

2015-01-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Try using a vst effect. You can grab them from the amadeus site. Install them 
by following the directions, then compress, or hard limit the file to prevent 
this.

Take care. 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 i'm trying to edit some old tape files witch i downloaded and i have come 
 across a problem witch even google can not help me with.
 some of the tape files have parts that are super loud and i want to drop the 
 volume. i don't want to have to go through the file to find each individual 
 part. Is there an effect I can use to turn the loud parts down? Could 
 normalise achieve this effect?
 i didn't have much luck with it last time.
 
 any help would be fantastic.
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

2015-01-08 Thread michael's mail boxl

Okay thanks Sarah you are very  smart.
Will that diagnose actually config my modem or just tell me what is the 
problem.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:13 PM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

There is no fix connection button, but there is a diagnose button in the 
network prefs you can use.


Hth.
On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:01 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi Sarah i have done all that but my modem just will not conect the last 
time it did it my iphone managed to get me back on line.
I am getting sick of the modem playing up but it will only do this every 
few months.
But since I can fnot find this fix conection button it is driving me 
crazy.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:46 PM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

I have problems as well, what I often do is run down stairs and reset the 
modem by hand by power cycling it, then  wait until it turns back on, then 
use the terminal to see if I'm really on line and what ip I'm using.
On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:29 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi Travis no I have a
ADSL 2 internet.
The prproblem is my thomson modem every now and then chucks a fit and 
will not conect me to the net I can power cycle and  go in to the modem 
set up page and try an dconect and it will not.
The only way was with my macbook after safari told me the page could not 
be displayed i was able to tab to a fix internet problems.

But now since the new updates for safari and the os it does not show up.
Even on my windows machine it has a fix internet button but as usual 
windows could never fix it anyway.
But on my macbook was the only way i could fix it I think it would re 
config the modem for me and no more problems for ages.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:06 PM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

If your connection to the internet is via dial-up, safari isn't the 
program you should be using to fix connection issues.
You need to get into network options, and configure from there (though 
I've never done a dial-up connection on OSX, so can't help with the 
specifics at that point, but system preferences/network would be the 
place the configuration would be most likely to be.  Likely in the table 
of connection types (ethernet, bluetooth, firewire, what have you) in 
that table there is likely a dial-up or modem option.  That's where you 
would configure it.



On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:45 PM, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys i not sure if my email went through or not. but I did not get 
any

answers.
I am having trouble  after my modem stuffed up and safari said the page 
can’t

be displayed.
So I use to be able to tab to a button called fix internet conections 
and it

would re config my modem till next  time.
But now I can’t see that button any where.
I interact with the html secttion wwitch is the message this page can’t 
be

displayed.
Can any body tell me how i can find this fix internet button or has it 
gone

in the later  safari.
Cheers michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.

2015-01-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It will, or might, tell you the problem but it will not fix your modem. It 
should work though.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:05 AM, michael's mail boxl 
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Okay thanks Sarah you are very  smart.
 Will that diagnose actually config my modem or just tell me what is the 
 problem.
 Cheers Michael.
 
 -Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:13 PM
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.
 
 There is no fix connection button, but there is a diagnose button in the 
 network prefs you can use.
 
 Hth.
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:01 PM, michael's mail boxl 
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah i have done all that but my modem just will not conect the last 
 time it did it my iphone managed to get me back on line.
 I am getting sick of the modem playing up but it will only do this every few 
 months.
 But since I can fnot find this fix conection button it is driving me crazy.
 Cheers Michael.
 
 -Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:46 PM
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.
 
 I have problems as well, what I often do is run down stairs and reset the 
 modem by hand by power cycling it, then  wait until it turns back on, then 
 use the terminal to see if I'm really on line and what ip I'm using.
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:29 PM, michael's mail boxl 
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Travis no I have a
 ADSL 2 internet.
 The prproblem is my thomson modem every now and then chucks a fit and will 
 not conect me to the net I can power cycle and  go in to the modem set up 
 page and try an dconect and it will not.
 The only way was with my macbook after safari told me the page could not be 
 displayed i was able to tab to a fix internet problems.
 But now since the new updates for safari and the os it does not show up.
 Even on my windows machine it has a fix internet button but as usual 
 windows could never fix it anyway.
 But on my macbook was the only way i could fix it I think it would re 
 config the modem for me and no more problems for ages.
 Cheers Michael.
 
 -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:06 PM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: still problems with safari.
 
 If your connection to the internet is via dial-up, safari isn't the program 
 you should be using to fix connection issues.
 You need to get into network options, and configure from there (though I've 
 never done a dial-up connection on OSX, so can't help with the specifics at 
 that point, but system preferences/network would be the place the 
 configuration would be most likely to be.  Likely in the table of 
 connection types (ethernet, bluetooth, firewire, what have you) in that 
 table there is likely a dial-up or modem option.  That's where you would 
 configure it.
 
 
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:45 PM, michael's mail boxl wrote:
 
 Hi guys i not sure if my email went through or not. but I did not get any
 answers.
 I am having trouble  after my modem stuffed up and safari said the page 
 can’t
 be displayed.
 So I use to be able to tab to a button called fix internet conections and 
 it
 would re config my modem till next  time.
 But now I can’t see that button any where.
 I interact with the html secttion wwitch is the message this page can’t be
 displayed.
 Can any body tell me how i can find this fix internet button or has it gone
 in the later  safari.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Question about movies from the itunes store

2015-01-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can't really answer this, except to say I didn't think any movies at all at 
least in the U.K. are audio described. I'm willing to stand corrected though. 
As much as I like watching them on good old DVD, it would be nice to watch them 
from places like the iTunes Store.
 On 27 Dec 2014, at 21:50, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am contemplating renting or buying a movie from the iTunes store but first 
 have a couple of questions. I have never purchased or rented a movie from 
 anywhere before. 
 
 When I look up a movie title on the iTunes store I see a price of around £14 
 for HD and £10 for SD. I am unclear on whether this is the rental price or 
 the purchase price. This may arise because the movies I looked up are recent 
 releases (Mr Turner and the Imitation Game) and may not be available for both 
 rental and purchase. I am primarily interested in rental. 
 
 i see that rented movies have to be watched within 30 days of download and 
 once started watching has to be completed within 48 hours. Can I only watch a 
 rented movie once within the 30 days? 
 
 both the above movies are listed as pre-order. what does this mean? 
 
 Is audio description standard in all movies from the iTunes store? If so do I 
 have to do anything special to enable audio description? If it is not 
 standard are there options to enable me to choose a version with audio 
 description? How do I know which movies have audio description and which do 
 not? 
 
 Many thanks for any help on the above. 
 Happy New Year to all listers….
 
 Paul Hopewell
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