Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-21 Thread Sue Bernardo
Excellent follow-up info. Thank you.

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:14 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I already reported in the public cycle. They said they would look in to it. I 
 heard that they have a dedicated team to close duplicate bug reports so if 
 all of are bus are being closed due to being duplicates I see no point in 
 reporting the bugs I've been reporting.  I still do it though.
 On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it.  I 
 did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to be 
 reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates to iOS 
 8 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling that if 
 there aren't enough people making noise about this the problem won't be 
 brought to the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on this list 
 pointed out, the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it isn't an 
 unknown problem.  If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. Making noise on 
 here or on Twitter is good to get the word out about the problem so that if 
 people who make significant use of the keyboard don't want to be 
 inconvenienced they can stick with iOS 7, but contacting Apple in your 
 preferred manner and letting them know that making it inconvenient to use a 
 Bluetooth keyboard is an unacceptable accessibility feature is also a good 
 idea..  They seemed receptive 
 t
 o addressing user issues.
 
 Cheers!
 
 Sue B.
 
 
 On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote:
 
 I'm using the BT
 keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is
 off, everything is fine.  Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR 
 simply do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've 
 got an escalated call set up with Apple for later today.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B.
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah tha'ts what I heard over twitter. Tha'ts where I go tthe work around.

tAke care. 
On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I'm using the BT 
 keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is 
 off, everything is fine.  Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-20 Thread Deb Lewis
While it works, it also restarts VO and puts your cursor in random places.

On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 The bug has been reported.  but one work around is to turn of and on quick 
 nav so I hear. You might have to do it a few times.
 
 Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Well a vo space on the field will fix that. one for start, and another for  end 
of field. 

Hope that helps.
On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 While it works, it also restarts VO and puts your cursor in random places.
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The bug has been reported.  but one work around is to turn of and on quick 
 nav so I hear. You might have to do it a few times.
 
 Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-20 Thread Sue Bernardo
Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it.  
I did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to 
be reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates 
to iOS 8 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling 
that if there aren't enough people making noise about this the problem 
won't be brought to the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on 
this list pointed out, the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it 
isn't an unknown problem.  If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. 
Making noise on here or on Twitter is good to get the word out about the 
problem so that if people who make significant use of the keyboard don't 
want to be inconvenienced they can stick with iOS 7, but contacting 
Apple in your preferred manner and letting them know that making it 
inconvenient to use a Bluetooth keyboard is an unacceptable 
accessibility feature is also a good idea..  They seemed receptive to 
addressing user issues.


Cheers!

Sue B.


On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote:


I'm using the BT
keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is
off, everything is fine.  Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:

Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures 
on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in contact with 
Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same 
problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues?  I've 
tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing.  Would love 
to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an escalated call set up with 
Apple for later today.

Thanks,

Sue B.
Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I already reported in the public cycle. They said they would look in to it. I 
heard that they have a dedicated team to close duplicate bug reports so if all 
of are bus are being closed due to being duplicates I see no point in reporting 
the bugs I've been reporting.  I still do it though.
On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Work arounds aside, it is a bug and Apple needs to be bugged to fix it.  I 
 did speak with the Apple engineer and he said that it will continue to be 
 reported as a bug and likely will be fixed within one of the updates to iOS 8 
 that will be released in the next few weeks. I had the feeling that if there 
 aren't enough people making noise about this the problem won't be brought to 
 the top of the pile of problems. Also, as someone on this list pointed out, 
 the bug has been reported in a beta cycle, so it isn't an unknown problem.  
 If noise isn't made it won't get resolved. Making noise on here or on Twitter 
 is good to get the word out about the problem so that if people who make 
 significant use of the keyboard don't want to be inconvenienced they can 
 stick with iOS 7, but contacting Apple in your preferred manner and letting 
 them know that making it inconvenient to use a Bluetooth keyboard is an 
 unacceptable accessibility feature is also a good idea..  They seemed 
 receptive t
 o addressing user issues.
 
 Cheers!
 
 Sue B.
 
 
 On 9/19/14, 1:28 PM, Juanita Martin wrote:
 
 I'm using the BT
 keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is
 off, everything is fine.  Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B.
 Sent from my iPad
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IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-19 Thread Sue Bernardo
Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over Gestures 
on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in contact with 
Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are having the same 
problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't having issues?  I've 
tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply do nothing.  Would love 
to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an escalated call set up with 
Apple for later today. 

Thanks,

Sue B. 
Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-19 Thread Matthew Chao
Hello.  I heard about this problem from another listserv.  If indeed there’s a 
bug here, all the more reason not to upgrade.  Never get 1.0 of anything, and 
iOS 8 appears to be one of them.

Matthew Chao


On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-19 Thread Sarah k Alawami
The bug has been reported.  but one work around is to turn of and on quick nav 
so I hear. You might have to do it a few times.

Btw this bug was around since beta 1 of the cycle and I did report it then.

Take care.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: IOS 8 and Bluetooth keyboard

2014-09-19 Thread Juanita Martin
I'm using the BT 
keyboard and as long as Quick Nav is 
off, everything is fine.  Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sue Bernardo s...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with doing some of the common Voice Over 
 Gestures on a Bluetooth keyboard since upgrading to iOS 8?  I've been in 
 contact with Apple about this and it would help to tell them if others are 
 having the same problem. Which keyboard brand are you using if you aren't 
 having issues?  I've tried 2 keyboards and commands like VO-SPACEBAR simply 
 do nothing.  Would love to hear how it is working for others.  I've got an 
 escalated call set up with Apple for later today. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sue B. 
 Sent from my iPad
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