Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi Bryan and All, I could not find the option to download KNFB on to my iPad 
Mini first Generation.  However, I did install to my iPod Touch 5th 
Generation and can report exactly what you found below to the letter!!!  The 
lag was so dreadful I uninstalled and reinstalled it and it is now doable. 
There is no vibration on the iPad or the iPad Mini or the iPod Touch so that 
is why you cannot get it!!!  I can just find the 'take picture' button and 
double tap and then the OCR is fine and the reading is accurate.  Like 
yourself the app works great on my iPhone 5s and 5c.  Excellent app, very 
pleased indeed with it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?


Hello Martin,

Here is a brief summary of my experience attempting to install and use the 
KNFB Reader app on my iPad. YMMV, and I am by no means recommending that 
anyone attempt to install and run this app on an unsupported device.


Having already purchased, installed & fallen in love with the KNFB Reader 
app on my iPhone  5S running IOS 7.1.2, I decided to ignore the stated 
system requirements and install it on my WiFi iPad Mini retina running IOS 
8.


The app showed up as installable (already paid for) in the App Store on the 
iPad, and I had no issues with the installation process on the iPad.


The first thing I noticed after installation is that there is a pronounced 
lag when navigating the app’s interface on my iPad. There is a delay of 
several seconds when swiping or touching from item to item. For testing 
purposes, I ignored this lag and took several pictures of a computer screen 
and a printed text document, both of which were OCR’d and read aloud 
quickly.


I attempted to toggle on “tilt guidance” but it remained off, which led me 
to wonder if perhaps there is no vibration built into the iPad. I’m not 
sure. I also tried the “field of view report” a half-dozen times but managed 
to receive spoken feedback with the edge and clockface report just once. I 
did not attempt to dig further into any of the settings or options, nor did 
I attempt any sort of troubleshooting.


That was the extent of my testing. I am very happy with the performance of 
this app on my iPhone, and I imagine the Devs have some good technical 
reasons for leaving the current crop of iPads out of the supported device 
list.


HTH,
Bryan

On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Martin G. McCormick 
 wrote:

The IPad I have is about 2 years old and came with IOS6
installed. I have since upgraded it to IOS7 and will upgrade to
8 shortly so it runs the right versions of IOS for the KNFB
Reader but IPads weren't mentioned at all in their list of
supported devices.


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Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Martin,

Here is a brief summary of my experience attempting to install and use the KNFB 
Reader app on my iPad. YMMV, and I am by no means recommending that anyone 
attempt to install and run this app on an unsupported device.

Having already purchased, installed & fallen in love with the KNFB Reader app 
on my iPhone  5S running IOS 7.1.2, I decided to ignore the stated system 
requirements and install it on my WiFi iPad Mini retina running IOS 8.

The app showed up as installable (already paid for) in the App Store on the 
iPad, and I had no issues with the installation process on the iPad.

The first thing I noticed after installation is that there is a pronounced lag 
when navigating the app’s interface on my iPad. There is a delay of several 
seconds when swiping or touching from item to item. For testing purposes, I 
ignored this lag and took several pictures of a computer screen and a printed 
text document, both of which were OCR’d and read aloud quickly.

I attempted to toggle on “tilt guidance” but it remained off, which led me to 
wonder if perhaps there is no vibration built into the iPad. I’m not sure. I 
also tried the “field of view report” a half-dozen times but managed to receive 
spoken feedback with the edge and clockface report just once. I did not attempt 
to dig further into any of the settings or options, nor did I attempt any sort 
of troubleshooting.

That was the extent of my testing. I am very happy with the performance of this 
app on my iPhone, and I imagine the Devs have some good technical reasons for 
leaving the current crop of iPads out of the supported device list.

HTH,
Bryan

On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Martin G. McCormick 
 wrote:
>   The IPad I have is about 2 years old and came with IOS6
> installed. I have since upgraded it to IOS7 and will upgrade to
> 8 shortly so it runs the right versions of IOS for the KNFB
> Reader but IPads weren't mentioned at all in their list of
> supported devices.

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Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?

[Martin G. McCormick]

I certainly will. Assuming the app will install and run
on the IPad, there are logistical issues. The rear-facing camera
is in one corner of the bottom. It will need to be suspended
over the middle of the reading area plus one will need a light
source to aluminate it. I like to build things so this would be
a good project. Modern LED lights are now available for the
automotive industry so maybe I could find some white ones that
would mount on a pannel. 
LED lights are relatively cool and don't require
anywhere near as much current as do conventional incandescent
lamps. They would also probably be easier to keep out of the
direct view of the camera.

Martin

william lomas writes:
> Hello, I think to be fair it would install on an iPad, as it is running 
> apples operating system.
> I don't know that what results we'd get using an iPad, but by all means 
> try it?
> I think it's primarily designed for those using an iPhone. It's more 
> portable. Let me know how you get on.

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Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?

[william lomas]

Hello, I think to be fair it would install on an iPad, as it is running apples 
operating system.
I don't know that what results we'd get using an iPad, but by all means try it?
I think it's primarily designed for those using an iPhone. It's more portable. 
Let me know how you get on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Sep 2014, at 17:57, Martin G. McCormick  
> wrote:
> 
>The IPad I have is about 2 years old and came with IOS6
> installed. I have since upgraded it to IOS7 and will upgrade to
> 8 shortly so it runs the right versions of IOS for the KNFB
> Reader but IPads weren't mentioned at all in their list of
> supported devices.
>The app is discussed at the following URL:
> 
> http://www.knfbreader.com/
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Martin McCormick
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KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?

[Martin G. McCormick]

The IPad I have is about 2 years old and came with IOS6
installed. I have since upgraded it to IOS7 and will upgrade to
8 shortly so it runs the right versions of IOS for the KNFB
Reader but IPads weren't mentioned at all in their list of
supported devices.
The app is discussed at the following URL:

http://www.knfbreader.com/

Thanks.

Martin McCormick
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