PDf's
Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: PDf's
I will not answer your full question but just to point out that on all platforms, including Windows, the ability to navigate by heading etc. in PDF documents depends on whether the PDF file has been tagged properly to allow these accessibility features. In my experience only a small percentage of PDF files have this tagging information included. If the heading or table tags are not included no screenreader will be able to find them. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: 23 June 2014 09:54 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: PDf's Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. 2014-06-23 12:42 GMT+03:00, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com: I will not answer your full question but just to point out that on all platforms, including Windows, the ability to navigate by heading etc. in PDF documents depends on whether the PDF file has been tagged properly to allow these accessibility features. In my experience only a small percentage of PDF files have this tagging information included. If the heading or table tags are not included no screenreader will be able to find them. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: 23 June 2014 09:54 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: PDf's Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Regards, Adi Kushnir. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Have you tried Skim from Source Forge, link below. http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/ - Original Message - From: Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: PDf's Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. 2014-06-23 12:42 GMT+03:00, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com: I will not answer your full question but just to point out that on all platforms, including Windows, the ability to navigate by heading etc. in PDF documents depends on whether the PDF file has been tagged properly to allow these accessibility features. In my experience only a small percentage of PDF files have this tagging information included. If the heading or table tags are not included no screenreader will be able to find them. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: 23 June 2014 09:54 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: PDf's Hello, What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other platforms screen readers? Thanks, Adi. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Regards, Adi Kushnir. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy
Re: PDf's
Hello Adi, Access to PDF files is an important part of my day-to-day life and I’ve tested a dozen or more PDF reading Mac apps over the past few years but have found no single app that provides anything resembling true access to properly tagged PDF files on the Mac. I assumed all PDF files must just be inherently inaccessible because my only point of reference was the limited access provided by the PDF tools available to Mac VO Users. It was only recently that I discovered how wonderfully accessible a properly created PDF file can be when read on Windows. While Preview and Skim provide basic access to PDF files on the Mac, AFAIK there is no tool on the Mac that even comes close to properly handling accessible PDF files in the way that the free Adobe Reader does on Windows. Speaking of Adobe Reader, the Mac version is essentially useless in terms of VO access. On a hopeful note, the latest version of the paid PDFpen application shows promise as the Developer specifically focussed on VO usage including making form fields accessible. I don’t think PDFpen yet provides accessible navigation by headings, etc, but it might be worth testing if PDF files are important to you. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Hi Brian, Thanks. So, it seems that I will have to install another operating system on my expensive Mac Book Pro to get this job done. Ok, I'll do that. Thanks, Adi. 2014-06-23 18:31 GMT+03:00, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com: Hello Adi, Access to PDF files is an important part of my day-to-day life and I've tested a dozen or more PDF reading Mac apps over the past few years but have found no single app that provides anything resembling true access to properly tagged PDF files on the Mac. I assumed all PDF files must just be inherently inaccessible because my only point of reference was the limited access provided by the PDF tools available to Mac VO Users. It was only recently that I discovered how wonderfully accessible a properly created PDF file can be when read on Windows. While Preview and Skim provide basic access to PDF files on the Mac, AFAIK there is no tool on the Mac that even comes close to properly handling accessible PDF files in the way that the free Adobe Reader does on Windows. Speaking of Adobe Reader, the Mac version is essentially useless in terms of VO access. On a hopeful note, the latest version of the paid PDFpen application shows promise as the Developer specifically focussed on VO usage including making form fields accessible. I don't think PDFpen yet provides accessible navigation by headings, etc, but it might be worth testing if PDF files are important to you. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Regards, Adi Kushnir. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
Can't you just go into the information when pointing at the file in the finder and unprotect it? Or do you have to open the file itself to do that? I can't remember since I haven't done it for a few weeks, but i know I had to do it when my Spanish teacher sent me stuff that was protected. On 25 Apr 2013, at 23:06, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote: PDFs arenot accessible with voiceover at this time. This is a blatent lie. Pdfs are completely accessible on te mac with voiceover, as long as it's a real pdf, and not a scanned image of a page that was put into a pdf file. I don't know who told you pdfs were not accessible, but whoever it was needs to be smacked. Filling out pdfs may not be doable, but reading them certainly can be done, and is done regularly by many vo users. I just spent the last 7 days reading 50+ books in pdf form, and every single one worked just fine. Please do not spread nonsense before checking to see if it's true. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
No that unlocks permissions only. Not sure if that unlocks the adobe stuff. Take care. On Apr 26, 2013, at 2:27 AM, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote: Can't you just go into the information when pointing at the file in the finder and unprotect it? Or do you have to open the file itself to do that? I can't remember since I haven't done it for a few weeks, but i know I had to do it when my Spanish teacher sent me stuff that was protected. On 25 Apr 2013, at 23:06, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote: PDFs arenot accessible with voiceover at this time. This is a blatent lie. Pdfs are completely accessible on te mac with voiceover, as long as it's a real pdf, and not a scanned image of a page that was put into a pdf file. I don't know who told you pdfs were not accessible, but whoever it was needs to be smacked. Filling out pdfs may not be doable, but reading them certainly can be done, and is done regularly by many vo users. I just spent the last 7 days reading 50+ books in pdf form, and every single one worked just fine. Please do not spread nonsense before checking to see if it's true. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
PDFs arenot accessible with voiceover at this time. On 4/24/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Dear Earl, Regrettably, I don't know of a suitable way to do this. PDF support on the Mac is kind of lackluster at the moment, at least with voiceover, and it is a failing I hope Apple will address. In the meantime, I am unfortunately forced to use another operating system to fill them out. Best, Zack. On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Earle e.zwic...@sympatico.ca wrote: Can anyone recommend a good app for filling out pdf forms on the Mac or on an iPhone? I know this has been brought up before but I never had to do this on the Mac, so never paid attention. Is this even possible on the Mac or iPhone? Any info would be appreciated. -- Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
If someone could point me to a PDF form that I could use, someone has posted on another list a method for doing this. I'd just like to try it myself before making any claims. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
What method did the person from another list use? On 4/25/13, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: If someone could point me to a PDF form that I could use, someone has posted on another list a method for doing this. I'd just like to try it myself before making any claims. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
Hello Isaac, Here's the method described on the other list, but it doesn't work for me. Using Preview on the Mac, Interact with the Toolbar, press the Edit button, Stop Interacting with the Toolbar, navigate right to the Edit Toolbar, Interact with it, then select the Text tool. Now, when you wish to enter info in an Edit field, navigate to it, then press VO-shift-space so that the cursor is activated and enter the text. Cheers, Anne On 25 Apr 2013, at 17:20, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: What method did the person from another list use? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote: PDFs arenot accessible with voiceover at this time. This is a blatent lie. Pdfs are completely accessible on te mac with voiceover, as long as it's a real pdf, and not a scanned image of a page that was put into a pdf file. I don't know who told you pdfs were not accessible, but whoever it was needs to be smacked. Filling out pdfs may not be doable, but reading them certainly can be done, and is done regularly by many vo users. I just spent the last 7 days reading 50+ books in pdf form, and every single one worked just fine. Please do not spread nonsense before checking to see if it's true. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
Hi Travis, Earle, Zack, Anne, and Others, Some PDFs for official tax forms, visa applications, etc. require using Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader, both to fill in forms and to read the documents. I'd have to check my old off-list mail, but I remember this came up two years ago on list. I think that to read those forms, which were UK tax forms, I ended up either having to do a screen capture or export to TIFF and then OCR with ABBYY FineReader Express, because even though they were blank forms they had some kind of protection that prevented VoiceOver from reading things. The normal, somewhat clunky and horrible, text-to-speech controls of Adobe Reader didn't work here. However, I was able to read the contents -- easiest done with Adobe Acrobat 8 for the mac that came free with an old scanner and the export to TIFF, then OCR, and sent the files back to the poster. I couldn't fill in those forms, though, and in those cases I couldn't read the PDFs directly. Those files weren't set to open in Preview, and required usi ng the Adobe software. I don't know of an accessible way to fill out PDF forms, though, on the Mac using VoiceOver. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote: PDFs arenot accessible with voiceover at this time. This is a blatent lie. Pdfs are completely accessible on te mac with voiceover, as long as it's a real pdf, and not a scanned image of a page that was put into a pdf file. I don't know who told you pdfs were not accessible, but whoever it was needs to be smacked. Filling out pdfs may not be doable, but reading them certainly can be done, and is done regularly by many vo users. I just spent the last 7 days reading 50+ books in pdf form, and every single one worked just fine. Please do not spread nonsense before checking to see if it's true. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
Can anyone recommend a good app for filling out pdf forms on the Mac or on an iPhone? I know this has been brought up before but I never had to do this on the Mac, so never paid attention. Is this even possible on the Mac or iPhone? Any info would be appreciated. -- Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Filling Out PDF's On The Mac
Dear Earl, Regrettably, I don't know of a suitable way to do this. PDF support on the Mac is kind of lackluster at the moment, at least with voiceover, and it is a failing I hope Apple will address. In the meantime, I am unfortunately forced to use another operating system to fill them out. Best, Zack. On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Earle e.zwic...@sympatico.ca wrote: Can anyone recommend a good app for filling out pdf forms on the Mac or on an iPhone? I know this has been brought up before but I never had to do this on the Mac, so never paid attention. Is this even possible on the Mac or iPhone? Any info would be appreciated. -- Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
copy-protected PDF's
hi all can the mac read copy-protected PDFs with voiceover --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
