Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Thanks for this David, as i say I'll certainly give it a go but this will take time. :) On 7 Mar 2013, at 01:05, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: This would be a demanding but important project if you can pull it off. If you are to do this I think you should concentrate on where the current gaps are. There is no use spending time going over basics that others have already done though you could reference for example the vision Australia podcasts in whatever you produce so people could consult them if needed. I would suggest a number of real world projects as walk throughs. So for example . using Pages to produce an Academic Report. This would not need to include basics like formatting selected text but would perhaps cover. 1 Choosing an appropriate template. 2. Customising Formatting of Margins as necessary. 3. Developing Header Styles. 4. Page numbering and formatting of page numbering styles. 5. Header and footer insertions and navigating to Header and footer to read information with VO. 5.b. Footnote insertion and footnote reading. 6. Strategies for coping with VO and Mac awkwardness with Tables. 7. Spell checking effectively. 8. using a dictionary with college work. 9. using a thesaurus with college projects. 10. Doing grammar checks. 11. Any strategies you could think of to replicate Text analyser function in Windows Screenreaders which identify proofing anomalies. 12. general proof reading tips - for example doing global find and replace of double spaces, replace all space full stop with full stops etc so work looks Ok for sighted reader. 13. using the word Count in document Inspector. 14. familiarisation with Document Inspector generally. 15. having a save as capacity with duplicate file creation. 16. table of Content creation. I am not sure if Pages can automate this in the same way as Microsoft Word but I hope that it can. 17. Automated Index creation, I am again not sure if Pages can do this , if not then perhaps investigate what program can do these things. 18. Managing hyperlinks for referencing purposes in documents. 19. Listing keyboard shortcuts for things like force new page. 20 . Adjusting line spacing, hopefully fine adjustment. I have to produce work in for example, 1.15 line spacing, that is just over single but below 1.5 line spacing. 21 . Inserting diagrams / flow charts/ organisation charts. This can be done accessibly with Word and Project working on the Windows platform. What is the accessible Mac Equivalent? 22. controlling Printing - print in reverse order, print collated documents etc. There are probably loads more things but this would perhaps get you started on Pages. A similar list could be created for Numbers. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware,
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
I'll try to start something at the weekend James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting started Guides was Re: iWork programs andaccessibility
I'd be happy to see such a guide for pages from a VO perspective, no matter how rudimentary. Word processing and spreadsheeting has been the one stumbling block in my desire to switch over to MAC from the PC world. I plan to purchase Pages soon, and maybe a MAC Air so I can access the nearby Apple store's one to One training and perhaps get solid on Pages/Numbers through them. - Original Message - From: JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Creating Getting started Guides was Re: iWork programs andaccessibility Hi David, You're absolutely right. I have often thought of doing something and have started several times. However, working full-time makes this sort of thing very difficult. It needs a collaborative effort. Moreover, it does not seem that Apple are making progress in the iWork area as we have not seen a significant update for it in nearly 4 years. Also, there are just some things that VoiceOver cannot do in Pages at the moment, such as lists and footnotes and of course, tables. I would be very happy to try to write something along the Getting Started… lines but as i say it would have to be a collaborative effort I think. What do people think? James On 6 Mar 2013, at 13:25, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: There is a desperate need for structured work to be done on building up knowledge of Mac productivity software so that a Visually Impaired person can fruitfully access it. There should be getting Started guides to pages, Numbers, Key Note etc. These could then be usefully supported with audio tutorials giving walk through of essential tasks. All the current guides I have seen assume you have sight. At the moment the visually impaired user base Resources on Mac seems more concentrated on advanced Music/ creative products rather than serious advanced Office Productivity. Basic word processing is fine but as you are finding moving beyond this to spreadsheets and more advance usage is a massive learning curve. I have had the identical problems that you are experiencing. Ideally it would be useful for Apple to produce more than chapter 7 of the Voiceover guide on applications. Alternatively organisation like the RNIB should be doing more to increase the expertise in utilising or work arounding the issue to enhance Mac productivity for visually impaired users. This has happened in the USA where Visual Impairment charities produced Getting Started with the iPhone but there is a yawning chasm of a gap in the market where there is zilch support for Visually impaired users using the Mac. I guess this is chicken and egg. The Mac users of office productivity is small compared to the iPhone. This is likely to continue whilst the organisations do not support Mac access solutions. Listening to the interview on Blind Bargains recently it appears that organisation like the RNIB are focussing on Windows and NVDA for investment in Access for their user base. This is understandable but I wish they widened their horizons beyond Windows. We need proper in depth guides to intermediate / advanced use of Mac Productivity . I think this is quite tough to expect visually Impaired people to pull themselves all up individually by their bootstraps. There needs to be a proper structured project which builds tutorials on a number of tasks using Iworks, probably initially investigated with sighted assistance until procedures to complete tasks without sighted help are formulated. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: 06 March 2013 01:23 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iWork programs and accessibility hi, I have both pages and numbers. I have been disappointed with numbers because several of the shortcut keys have not worked for me. for example, I had some XLS files that numbers opened up fine, and I could read the first sheet of data, but the command to move from sheet to sheet has not worked for me.there were other shortcut keys in the help file that also would not work for me. I found pages to be very complex too learn, but this could simply be due to the fact that I am a new Mac user. I also constantly received busy messages from both aps, but now that I just got more memory installed, perhaps this will no longer happen. must check into that. my two cents. Cathy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Thanks so much Ian, that would be great Plesae write me off-list On 6 Mar 2013, at 18:48, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Of course I'd like such a guide, I'd even be happy to pay a little. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi Phil Let's see if it works first, money is not my motive but taht is very kind thank you. On 6 Mar 2013, at 21:52, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I'd like such a guide, I'd even be happy to pay a little. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted them, i'd be happy to help you to mate. Ian. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi, I'd really appreciate if you had the time to do this. I took delivery of my new macbook air last week and know nothing about how to use it. Thanks. Brian. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Hi everyone, Well there seems to be a fair amount of interest in this, so (takes a deep breath) I'll try to devise something. Please bare with me though folks as this is a big undertaking and will need to fit around my other commitments. I am not making excuses nor am I making promises, just being honest. I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on list who have offered help. Be assured that I will certainly need it. Finally, I doubt that this will be anything like the polished masterpieces that Take Control are known for. Watch this space, no promises but I am certainly happy to try. Take care James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Getting Started Guides
Thanks James. Look forward to reading whatever you come up with. I'm sure it will be very helpful. On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:46 PM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi everyone, Well there seems to be a fair amount of interest in this, so (takes a deep breath) I'll try to devise something. Please bare with me though folks as this is a big undertaking and will need to fit around my other commitments. I am not making excuses nor am I making promises, just being honest. I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on list who have offered help. Be assured that I will certainly need it. Finally, I doubt that this will be anything like the polished masterpieces that Take Control are known for. Watch this space, no promises but I am certainly happy to try. Take care James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
If you are new to the Mac and it is It the basics you are after then never fear there are already loads of resources out there. I would recommend David Woodbridge's Vision Australia podcasts on using the Mac. Chapter 7 of the Getting started with voiceover guide will also take you through the basics of using applications like Mail etc. Apple Vis is also a good source of help. The big gap is not help for beginners, there is loads of stuff out there for that. The gap is for the next level up for intermediate/ advanced for which there is virtually nothing on the Office productivity side. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Brian Dalton Sent: 06 March 2013 22:18 To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi, I'd really appreciate if you had the time to do this. I took delivery of my new macbook air last week and know nothing about how to use it. Thanks. Brian. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Creating Getting Started Guides
This would be a demanding but important project if you can pull it off. If you are to do this I think you should concentrate on where the current gaps are. There is no use spending time going over basics that others have already done though you could reference for example the vision Australia podcasts in whatever you produce so people could consult them if needed. I would suggest a number of real world projects as walk throughs. So for example . using Pages to produce an Academic Report. This would not need to include basics like formatting selected text but would perhaps cover. 1 Choosing an appropriate template. 2. Customising Formatting of Margins as necessary. 3. Developing Header Styles. 4. Page numbering and formatting of page numbering styles. 5. Header and footer insertions and navigating to Header and footer to read information with VO. 5.b. Footnote insertion and footnote reading. 6. Strategies for coping with VO and Mac awkwardness with Tables. 7. Spell checking effectively. 8. using a dictionary with college work. 9. using a thesaurus with college projects. 10. Doing grammar checks. 11. Any strategies you could think of to replicate Text analyser function in Windows Screenreaders which identify proofing anomalies. 12. general proof reading tips - for example doing global find and replace of double spaces, replace all space full stop with full stops etc so work looks Ok for sighted reader. 13. using the word Count in document Inspector. 14. familiarisation with Document Inspector generally. 15. having a save as capacity with duplicate file creation. 16. table of Content creation. I am not sure if Pages can automate this in the same way as Microsoft Word but I hope that it can. 17. Automated Index creation, I am again not sure if Pages can do this , if not then perhaps investigate what program can do these things. 18. Managing hyperlinks for referencing purposes in documents. 19. Listing keyboard shortcuts for things like force new page. 20 . Adjusting line spacing, hopefully fine adjustment. I have to produce work in for example, 1.15 line spacing, that is just over single but below 1.5 line spacing. 21 . Inserting diagrams / flow charts/ organisation charts. This can be done accessibly with Word and Project working on the Windows platform. What is the accessible Mac Equivalent? 22. controlling Printing - print in reverse order, print collated documents etc. There are probably loads more things but this would perhaps get you started on Pages. A similar list could be created for Numbers. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 06 March 2013 18:04 To: Ma Access Mac OSX Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides Hi all, If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything? If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might take some time to emerge. Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net Thank you James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should
