Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would give amadeus pro a try, the more you can get away from Windows, the better. Original message: I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. Thanks to everyone again. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I use amadeus pro and golewave. I wish both woudl scan and remove silences in a file. iv'e asked for this time and time and time again in amadeus pro but the developer does not think it's importent Amadeus is still a very very good program though. On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net mailto:n0...@charter.net wrote: I would give amadeus pro a try, the more you can get away from Windows, the better. Original message: I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
a friend of mine installed windows with it flawlessly on his macbook with bootcamp with no issues.incidentally do i need the iso file to be on a formatted flash drive to run?you can then i believe use your bootcamp partition in fusion once it's created. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:12, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I have been reading all of the posts here and tried on different occasions to respond. For other tech reasons that I don’t think is necessary for this thread, I’ll put my 2 sense in about BootCamp and what I needed to do to install it myself. Before I start, I want to suggest to listen to a podcast on CoolBlindTech regarding Wininstaller. It’s a software program that will provide one with a talking installer for Windows. I did not go that route, since I am still not fully confident in advance skills on the Mac side. I used the following apps to install Win 8.0 with no (sort of) sighted assistance. They include KNFB Reader, BeMyEyes, the Applevis guidelines, and Facetime. Here is what I found that helped me. 1. The Applevis guidelines was sort of helpful. The dialog pages when installing Win 8.0 didn’t pair up with the information written in the guidelines. Hence, you need to be careful on which keystroke you used and where. That said, the keystrokes when matched to the correct dialog page were very helpful. 2. When using the KNFB Reader, I first increased the brightness of the Mac’s screen to 100%. This gave me very accurate results in the image scan with KNFB. It also allowed me to locate the precise section in the Applevis guideline text for the correct keystrokes to use. 3. I used BeMyEyes to confirm the 04 bootcamp drive. Since this is a critical point in the installation, I didn’t want to reformat the wrong disk. I also had the individual assist me in the confirmation of the advance button in disk options and the format button at this point. I did that because I had the sighted person on the other end. 4. However, I had some difficulties in accessing the next button. It was located in the lower right hand corner and the only method to access it was with the trackpad. 5. I contacted an AT sighted buddy of mine through Facetime and with his guidance in which direction to move my finger on the mouse, I was able to select the next button and left click on it. It was a challenge, but very rewarding knowing that I was able to install Win 8.0 on my own. My AT friend learn something that he may be able to use in the future to assist someone else that wants to install Windows into BootCamp, but does not have sighted assistance available. Sorry for this long reply, but I thought others would like to know my creative resolution to a task that is really not accessible to the visually impaired to complete without sighted assistance. HTH. Warmest regards, Eileen On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:32 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
okay but I'm not sure in the UK if there that's helpful. On 27 Apr 2015, at 19:25, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hello. I'm limited on what I can answer per the guidelines of the list, but I personally love vmware fusion as I can flip between operating systems, how ever, I have a radio that takes a serial connection and for me Vmware does not play nice. That's the only disadvantage of vmware for me. bootcamp is quite easy to install with out site. I modified an applevis guide to make it a bit easier to read. I'll email that to you off list so as not to get in to trouble. If I don't get to it by next week fire me an email off list and remind me. I'm going out of town on business, but I will get that to you soon. The other disadvantage btw about boot camp is if you need to shrink the partition, let's say you made it too big, I have not found a way to do it in such a way to reallocate safely, but I could be wrong. I'm still learning the mac and all it can do after 5 years owning one, and that's way cool! I'm not known for my long replies so with that I hope that helps. Blessings and happy Sunday. On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hello Sarah. Can you email me that guide off list as well? I installed Windows with Bootcamp, but I needed to use the Be My Eyes app since there was no sound when the Windows 8.1 installation DVD booted. My email address is rmann0581 at gmail.com. Note, I spelled at out so it would be harder for spam bots to get my email address. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I'm limited on what I can answer per the guidelines of the list, but I personally love vmware fusion as I can flip between operating systems, how ever, I have a radio that takes a serial connection and for me Vmware does not play nice. That's the only disadvantage of vmware for me. bootcamp is quite easy to install with out site. I modified an applevis guide to make it a bit easier to read. I'll email that to you off list so as not to get in to trouble. If I don't get to it by next week fire me an email off list and remind me. I'm going out of town on business, but I will get that to you soon. The other disadvantage btw about boot camp is if you need to shrink the partition, let's say you made it too big, I have not found a way to do it in such a way to reallocate safely, but I could be wrong. I'm still learning the mac and all it can do after 5 years owning one, and that's way cool! I'm not known for my long replies so with that I hope that helps. Blessings and happy Sunday. On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Yeah, William, if people have spent the $99 to buy it. Plus, KNFB reader doesn't really do that great, in my personal experience, with reading computer monitors. Plus, the buttons like Next, and Cancel, etc have underlined letters so you know what key to hit with your alt key. KNFB isn't gonna tell you what those underlined hotkey letters are. Plus, If you wanted to use the mouse to get through the installer, KNFB isn't going to be able to direct your mouse pointer to where you need to click. I see where you're going with this, but it would probably be more headache than it's worth. You'd probably do better with Be My Eyes, although, lately, I'm not so convinced of that after the problem that every one of my I O S devices seem to be having according to the sighted vollenteers. But, that's for another post. Chris. - Original Message - From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but again, that's just me. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Brian wrote: I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. It's worth a try, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not totally convinced how great the result yielded would be. I'd be interested in knowing if you get through it. Just know however, YMMV. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Wow, this is a good thread! The other thing that should be considered is the cost. I'd have to look it up, but I remember VMWare Fusion costing some money. I believe it was somewhere around fifty bucks or so in USD. I don't know if Bootcamp costs anything, being that its capabilities are built into OSX as far as I know. I could be basse-ackwards on this, but that's what I've heard. - Original Message - From: Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 23:51 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Disk space can be adjusted so there is no need to allocate more than necessary. with regard to Fusion When I first switched to the Mac, I was convinced that I would really need bootcamp so I got everything ready, setup the bootcamp so that it was ready for the Windows install, and headed off to the Apple Store to try to get them to help me. I was able to do so but it was with reluctance. They told me they were not supposed to help me install Windows, and I think if I had not been completely prepared, they would not have done so. I wouldn't count on that kind of assistance, and I doubt it has anything to do with whether one is in the UK or anywhere else. Still, it might be worth a try if you are desperate which I was. Before I installed bootcamp, I had purchased VMWare Fusion since I knew I could install Windows unassisted. So I already had Fusion and Windows running. I admit that the bootcamp version of Windows ran better than the virtual machine, but the virtual machine runs well enough and has improved with updated versions of Fusion. Within a month or so, I decided to remove the bootcamp partition for two reasons: 1. I have a Macbook Air with only 256 GB of SSD, and 2. I really like the ability to use both the Mac OS and Windows simultaneously. This was more important than the ability too boot into Windows. So I removed bootcamp to reclaim some space. I generally have not regretted removing the bootcamp partition. Fusion works well enough for my Windows. needs On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy.
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would use fusion for several reasons. First, you can install windows totally without sighted help, there is a quick install where you provide either the DVD or an ISO of Windows, tell it the product key and Fusion does the rest. Second, as you said, you can switch between the 2 operating systems without having to reboot. Finally, your Windows virtual machine is stored in one file, so it's really easy to back up. If something happens to it, just copy and replace it from a backup. About the only disadvantage with Fusion is that not all of your resources will be used by Windows, but if it's a high end machine, you shouldn't notice any delays. Original message: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. Thanks to everyone again. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I actually do all of my audio work on the mac, but I'm an almost seasoned mac user of 5 years so am very comfortable workign with audio on the mac. I produce my voice overs for this company I volenteer for on the mac, my EP, albums and podcasts and it all works very very flawlessly. Take care. On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but again, that's just me. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive
