Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Glenn 
You will need to turn on "grid" after that you go in the options when you go 
into camera.
I noticed mine starting to do this after I did that.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Shaun Oliver" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd
certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier.


On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote:
> hmm i have never had it do this.  must try and see.
>
> interesting.
>
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> On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't
>> recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it
>> completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side
>> and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the
>> iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the
>> native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode
>> with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of
>> me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my
>> face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.
>>
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near
>> top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face,
>> small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO
>> announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face
>> and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered."
>>
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results.
>> I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face
>> but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't
>> want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Glenn 
It works fine on the iPhone 4, latest firmware.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Chao" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


Interesting.  Tried the facial thing on my 4s,
and it's pretty amazing.  Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though.

Matthew Chao


>Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years.
>You never know. You just never know.
>On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote:
>
> > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on 
> > left
> > and dad on right, for example.
> > Glenn
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> >
> >
> > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets 
> > conference
> > in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet 
> > but
> > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
> > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:
> >
> >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon 
> >> it
> >> just as Bryan did.
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> >>
> >>
> >> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe 
> >> I'll
> >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s 
> >> then
> >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face
> >> thing
> >> and I hope it improves with time.
> >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't 
> >>> recall
> >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it 
> >>> completely
> >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
> >>>
> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side 
> >>> and
> >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone 
> >>> camera
> >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera 
> >>> app
> >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
> >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the 
> >>> back-facing
> >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap 
> >>> one
> >>> of my standard off-center photos.
> >>>
> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near 
> >>> top
> >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small 
> >>> face,
> >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
> >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
> >>> "One face, large face, face centered."
> >>>
> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. 
> >>> I
> >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
> >>>
> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face 
> >>> but
> >>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to 
> >>> be
> >>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Bryan Jones 
Hi Shaun and others,

This morning when I read the messages of folks having trouble getting this to 
work I tried doing a self-portrait again and, much to my surprise, I could not 
get VO to speak the facial thing again. I was pretty sure my face didn't go 
away overnight, so I thought maybe the issue was related to lighting or 
background color or my untrimmed eyebrows getting in the way, but altering all 
of these variables made no difference. I still could not get VO to talk about 
my face.

Turning to my usual first standard troubleshooting procedure, I cleared all 
apps from my app switcher as I had launched about a dozen apps since 
yesterday's successful facial recognition. I then re-launched the camera app, 
held the phone at arms length with the rear facing camera aimed at the spot 
just above the top of my torso where my face was yesterday, and voila! VO 
immediately started telling me I had a small face in my viewfinder. I was then 
able to do all the tilting and stuff I did yesterday and it all worked fine 
again. Unfortunately, VO still doesn't seem to consider my dog's face to be a 
real face, and the cat is nowhere to be found this morning :-(

For the record, I am using an iPhone 4 running the latest version of IOS 5.

HTH,
Bryan

On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly 
> make taking pictures a good deal easier.

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Thejazzden 
Hello everyone.
it does work. Using an IPhone 4 here. I'm totally blind so while it was fairly 
easy to learn where to stand and how to point the camera,you need to angle or 
tilt the phone to take into account the subject's height and their position in 
the photo frame. I was lucky to hav a sighted helper and you need to practise, 
as with any skill. Sometimes VoiceOver  says 'small face' when it isn't which 
makes you think you've still not got the positioningg right . But it is useable.
While Guided Photo I think gives a little more direction I found it much 
slower, but that was using the IPhone  3GS.
One last point. I found taking a photo of myself with the front camera was a 
good way of mlearning how to hold the phone still. Usingthe volume up button 
with the phone locked rather than double tapping 'take picture' really does 
help too for getting a steady shot.
Hth.
Dennis.


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On 18 Dec 2011, at 13:19, Matthew Chao  wrote:

> Interesting.  Tried the facial thing on my 4s, and it's pretty amazing.  
> Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> 
>> Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. You never know. You just never 
>> know.
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote:
>> 
>> > I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left
>> > and dad on right, for example.
>> > Glenn
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
>> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>> >
>> >
>> > Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference
>> > in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but
>> > some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
>> > On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
>> >> just as Bryan did.
>> >> Glenn
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
>> >> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
>> >> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face
>> >> thing
>> >> and I hope it improves with time.
>> >> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Folks,
>> >>>
>> >>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>> >>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>> >>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>> >>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>> >>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>> >>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>> >>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>> >>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>> >>> of my standard off-center photos.
>> >>>
>> >>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>> >>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>> >>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>> >>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>> >>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>> >>>
>> >>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>> >>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>> >>>
>> >>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>>

Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Matthew Chao 
Interesting.  Tried the facial thing on my 4s, 
and it's pretty amazing.  Don't know about the iPhone 4 with iOS 5, though.


Matthew Chao


Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. 
You never know. You just never know.

On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote:

> I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left
> and dad on right, for example.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>
>
> Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference
> in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but
> some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:
>
>> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
>> just as Bryan did.
>> Glenn
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>>
>>
>> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
>> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
>> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face
>> thing
>> and I hope it improves with time.
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>>
>>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>>> of my standard off-center photos.
>>>
>>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>>>
>>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be
>>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>>
>>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bryan
>>>
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Lewis Alexander 
this technology exists in iphoto where the face is recognized and with input 
from the user, the face can be identified as a name. with a little tinkering 
with the phone camera software, I don't see why with a reference target, the 
face can be identified and spoken by name, etc even to the extent of adding a 
contact link to refer to the address book / contacts list.

lew

On 18 Dec 2011, at 12:46, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd certainly 
> make taking pictures a good deal easier.
> 
> 
> On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote:
>> hmm i have never had it do this.  must try and see.
>> 
>> interesting.
>> 
>> Maria, Joe&Karly from Australia
>> 
>> God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say 
>> good night. And the cross to say "I love you"
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>> 
>> On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
>>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
>>> accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>> 
>>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the 
>>> cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at 
>>> arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on 
>>> my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
>>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
>>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of 
>>> my standard off-center photos.
>>> 
>>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
>>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
>>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
>>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One 
>>> face, large face, face centered."
>>> 
>>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
>>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
>>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
>>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bryan
>>> 
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Maria, Joe and Karly 
hi.  have you tried guided photo pro?  i found it on the appple vis site 
when i first got my iphone.  it will guide you in centering faces.  I 
found it a bit slow on the iphone 4 haven't tried it on the 4s yet.


Maria, Joe&Karly from Australia

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On 18/12/2011 11:46 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote:
I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd 
certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier.



On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote:

hmm i have never had it do this.  must try and see.

interesting.

Maria, Joe&Karly from Australia

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On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't 
recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it 
completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.


I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side 
and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the 
iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched 
the native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo 
mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in 
front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction 
of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.


. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near 
top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, 
small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO 
announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face 
and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered."


I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same 
results. I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.


Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face 
but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't 
want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.


I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Shaun Oliver 
I'd love to know how to do this. I tried but it wouldn't work. it'd 
certainly make taking pictures a good deal easier.



On 18/12/2011 23:12, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote:

hmm i have never had it do this.  must try and see.

interesting.

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On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't 
recall knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it 
completely by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.


I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side 
and the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the 
iPhone camera at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the 
native camera app on my iphone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode 
with auto flash and back-facing camera, held it straight in front of 
me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general direction of my 
face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.


. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near 
top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, 
small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO 
announce, "face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face 
and VO announced, "One face, large face, face centered."


I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. 
I also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.


Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face 
but could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't 
want to be part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.


I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-18 Thread Maria, Joe and Karly 

hmm i have never had it do this.  must try and see.

interesting.

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On 18/12/2011 8:20 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.

I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the cat 
purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's 
length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 
running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, 
held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general 
direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.

. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit 
and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, 
"face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, 
face centered."

I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
tried this in video mode but VO was silent.

Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could 
not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this 
experiment and ran off somewhere.

I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Sarah Alawami 
Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. You never know. You just never 
know.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote:

> I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left 
> and dad on right, for example.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference 
> in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but 
> some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:
> 
>> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
>> just as Bryan did.
>> Glenn
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>> 
>> 
>> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
>> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
>> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face 
>> thing
>> and I hope it improves with time.
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>> 
>>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>>> of my standard off-center photos.
>>> 
>>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>>> 
>>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be
>>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Glenn 
I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left 
and dad on right, for example.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference 
in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but 
some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>
>
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face 
> thing
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>>
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>>
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick 
Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in 
Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but some 
people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>> 
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>> 
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>> 
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>> 
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>> 
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick 
Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in 
Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but some 
people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>> 
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>> 
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>> 
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>> 
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>> 
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Glenn 
I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
just as Bryan did.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
and I hope it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>
> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
> of my standard off-center photos.
>
> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
> "One face, large face, face centered."
>
> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>
> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>
> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>
> Cheers,
> Bryan
>
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread chris hallsworth 

I can't get it to work either. It says autofocus but that's about it.

On 17/12/2011 21:55, Sarah Alawami wrote:

lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have 
better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then  what ever 
is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope 
it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:


Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.

I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the cat 
purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's 
length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iPhone 4 
running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, 
held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general 
direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.

. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit 
and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, 
"face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, 
face centered."

I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
tried this in video mode but VO was silent.

Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could 
not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this 
experiment and ran off somewhere.

I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Sarah Alawami 
lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have 
better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then  what ever 
is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope 
it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
> accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
> 
> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the 
> cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at 
> arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my 
> iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing 
> camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in 
> the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard 
> off-center photos.
> 
> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." 
> Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large 
> face, face centered." 
> 
> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
> tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
> 
> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part 
> of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
> 
> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryan
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VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

2011-12-17 Thread Bryan Jones 
Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.

I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the cat 
purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's 
length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 
running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, 
held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general 
direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.

. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." 
I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left 
edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved 
the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face 
centered." 

I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
tried this in video mode but VO was silent.

Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could 
not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this 
experiment and ran off somewhere.

I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 

Cheers,
Bryan

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