VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

2013-12-16 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, 
I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.

Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several hours 
asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and then 
power-on again to restore VO. 
I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
will start speaking again. 
I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes mute. 
Many thanks

Paul Hopewell
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

2013-12-16 Thread Andy Collins
Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually works, 
it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -

Andy
On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:

 Hello, 
 I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
 
 Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
 hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
 then power-on again to restore VO. 
 I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
 pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
 whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
 will start speaking again. 
 I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
 mute. 
 Many thanks
 
 Paul Hopewell
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

2013-12-16 Thread Rodney Haynie
I have found that usually typing in my password, with no audible feedback and 
pressing enter will log me back into my MBA and Voiceover will be back up and 
running immediately. But I bet the Command + 4 or 5 key presses may work for 
you too. Definitely try typing in your password blindly though, it might save 
you some time.

Take care.
-Rodney
On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually 
 works, it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
 
 Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
 hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
 then power-on again to restore VO. 
 I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
 pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
 whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
 will start speaking again. 
 I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
 mute. 
 Many thanks
 
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

2013-12-16 Thread Phil Halton
Okay, When I started having this problem in july or august of 2012 after buying 
my first Mac, I used to mess around with the volume buttons, and try turning VO 
off and on a couple of times. Eventually, maybe after a few minutes, VO would 
come up talking. I asked about this problem on the list and Ricardo Walker 
suggested hitting Command F5 four times in quick succession. I don't know how  
he came  up with that strategy, but it worked, and has continued to work every 
time VO flakes out on me after a good nights sleep.

I don't know about five times, maybe that's a typo. Pretty soon there'll be a 
whole mythology about the number of times to hit command F5, with different 
camps a spousing different numbers…

On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually 
 works, it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
 
 Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
 hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
 then power-on again to restore VO. 
 I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
 pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
 whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
 will start speaking again. 
 I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
 mute. 
 Many thanks
 
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

2013-12-16 Thread Andy Collins
All I can add, is that I discovered the 5 times myself, from just trying to 
resolve this issue in the early days of having this MBA. I think it needs to be 
an odd number of times because it has already gone off, and doing it 3 times 
doesn't seem to work -

Andy

 On 16 Dec 2013, at 13:33, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, When I started having this problem in july or august of 2012 after 
 buying my first Mac, I used to mess around with the volume buttons, and try 
 turning VO off and on a couple of times. Eventually, maybe after a few 
 minutes, VO would come up talking. I asked about this problem on the list and 
 Ricardo Walker suggested hitting Command F5 four times in quick succession. I 
 don't know how  he came  up with that strategy, but it worked, and has 
 continued to work every time VO flakes out on me after a good nights sleep.
 
 I don't know about five times, maybe that's a typo. Pretty soon there'll be a 
 whole mythology about the number of times to hit command F5, with different 
 camps a spousing different numbers…
 
 On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually 
 works, it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
 
 Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
 hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
 then power-on again to restore VO. 
 I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
 pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
 whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before 
 VO will start speaking again. 
 I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
 mute. 
 Many thanks
 
 Paul Hopewell
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VoiceOver going mute

2013-12-15 Thread Chris Goodwin
Hi,

I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver gets 
muted and it can't easily be unmuted.

When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on the 
side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock the phone 
VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need a double tap, 
but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in settings reads 100%.

The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and 
then the volume buttons do as expected.

Has anyone else ever had this problem?

I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as close 
as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO being on 
the triple home button press toggle.

Best to all,

chris 
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Re: VoiceOver going mute

2013-12-15 Thread Zachary Kline
Chris,
I can't say I have. But then again I haven't made a habit of turning volume 
down so low, so perhaps it's something reproducible. I don't really care to try 
though. :-)
All the best,
Zack.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Chris Goodwin ckgoodwi...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver gets 
 muted and it can't easily be unmuted.
 
 When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on 
 the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock the 
 phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need a 
 double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in 
 settings reads 100%.
 
 The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and 
 then the volume buttons do as expected.
 
 Has anyone else ever had this problem?
 
 I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as 
 close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO 
 being on the triple home button press toggle.
 
 Best to all,
 
 chris 
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RE: Voiceover going mute

2013-12-15 Thread David Griffith
From time to time Voiceover mutes itself on my phone but it does not appear
to have anything to do with me adjusting the volume. It happens
unpredictably. When it first happened I thought I had a hardware problem
with the speaker.

Weirdly on these occasions Voiceover can still be heard through  earphones.

The recommended solution, put Voiceover into say all on an application like
iBooks or Safari and then increase the volume whilst Voiceover is speaking
with the earphones removed does not work for me.

Thankfully so far the problem has always resolved itself by one of the
following events.

1. Sometimes but not always it clears if I receive a call on the phone.
2. So far restarting the phone has reliably cleared the problem but it is a
worry  during the reboot.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Goodwin
Sent: 15 December 2013 22:27
To: MacAccessList
Subject: VoiceOver going mute

Hi,

I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver
gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.

When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on
the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock
the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need
a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in
settings reads 100%.

The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and
then the volume buttons do as expected.

Has anyone else ever had this problem?

I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as
close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO
being on the triple home button press toggle.

Best to all,

chris 
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Re: VoiceOver going mute

2013-12-15 Thread Matthew Carello
I do know there is a bug that I told apple about. If you accidentally hit both 
the up and down volume buttons together voiceover gets killed. It even kills 
triple click of home. That might be what is going on.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 Chris,
 I can't say I have. But then again I haven't made a habit of turning volume 
 down so low, so perhaps it's something reproducible. I don't really care to 
 try though. :-)
 All the best,
 Zack.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Chris Goodwin ckgoodwi...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver 
 gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.
 
 When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on 
 the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock 
 the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need 
 a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in 
 settings reads 100%.
 
 The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and 
 then the volume buttons do as expected.
 
 Has anyone else ever had this problem?
 
 I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as 
 close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO 
 being on the triple home button press toggle.
 
 Best to all,
 
 chris 
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Re: Voiceover going mute

2013-12-15 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Why not rest the springboard when this is happening. it's quicker then a power 
off. Just hit power 5 times and wait for it to do its thing.

Take care.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From time to time Voiceover mutes itself on my phone but it does not appear
 to have anything to do with me adjusting the volume. It happens
 unpredictably. When it first happened I thought I had a hardware problem
 with the speaker.
 
 Weirdly on these occasions Voiceover can still be heard through  earphones.
 
 The recommended solution, put Voiceover into say all on an application like
 iBooks or Safari and then increase the volume whilst Voiceover is speaking
 with the earphones removed does not work for me.
 
 Thankfully so far the problem has always resolved itself by one of the
 following events.
 
 1. Sometimes but not always it clears if I receive a call on the phone.
 2. So far restarting the phone has reliably cleared the problem but it is a
 worry  during the reboot.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Goodwin
 Sent: 15 December 2013 22:27
 To: MacAccessList
 Subject: VoiceOver going mute
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver
 gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.
 
 When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on
 the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock
 the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need
 a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in
 settings reads 100%.
 
 The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and
 then the volume buttons do as expected.
 
 Has anyone else ever had this problem?
 
 I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as
 close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO
 being on the triple home button press toggle.
 
 Best to all,
 
 chris 
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Re: Voiceover going mute

2013-12-15 Thread meadowlark77
What is that? I've not done that before.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Voiceover going mute


Why not rest the springboard when this is happening. it's quicker then a 
power off. Just hit power 5 times and wait for it to do its thing.

Take care.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

 From time to time Voiceover mutes itself on my phone but it does not 
 appear
 to have anything to do with me adjusting the volume. It happens
 unpredictably. When it first happened I thought I had a hardware problem
 with the speaker.

 Weirdly on these occasions Voiceover can still be heard through 
 earphones.

 The recommended solution, put Voiceover into say all on an application 
 like
 iBooks or Safari and then increase the volume whilst Voiceover is speaking
 with the earphones removed does not work for me.

 Thankfully so far the problem has always resolved itself by one of the
 following events.

 1. Sometimes but not always it clears if I receive a call on the phone.
 2. So far restarting the phone has reliably cleared the problem but it is 
 a
 worry  during the reboot.

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Goodwin
 Sent: 15 December 2013 22:27
 To: MacAccessList
 Subject: VoiceOver going mute

 Hi,

 I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver
 gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.

 When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button 
 on
 the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock
 the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons 
 need
 a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in
 settings reads 100%.

 The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, 
 and
 then the volume buttons do as expected.

 Has anyone else ever had this problem?

 I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as
 close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with 
 VO
 being on the triple home button press toggle.

 Best to all,

 chris
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RE: VoiceOver going mute

2013-12-15 Thread Paula Hobley
Hi there

I'm not sure if it is exactly what you describe, but I have had my IPad go
silent on me.  To fix this, I've just done the rset where you press the home
and power buttons down together and lift your finger off the power button
and it seems to right itself.

Cheers

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 10:37 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: VoiceOver going mute

Chris,
I can't say I have. But then again I haven't made a habit of turning volume
down so low, so perhaps it's something reproducible. I don't really care to
try though. :-) All the best, Zack.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Chris Goodwin ckgoodwi...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver
gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.
 
 When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button
on the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock
the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need
a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in
settings reads 100%.
 
 The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run,
and then the volume buttons do as expected.
 
 Has anyone else ever had this problem?
 
 I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as
close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO
being on the triple home button press toggle.
 
 Best to all,
 
 chris
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