[MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread John Robinson
Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, 
but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me.  I had wondered 
if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage 
for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed 
then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed?

Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and videoed 
much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together in a 5.5 
min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 505 meg and I 
had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 

I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight 
offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download 
it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even 
though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy still here and my 
question for all these years was answered.  I AM only going to get what the 
site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 50 really helps is 
downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR 
maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max.  

Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their 
upload speeds.

He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg 
download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the 
various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed 
beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they will offer in 
a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to 
send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this 
one when it gets here.

He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I 
guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the 
gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.

I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 
down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a 
difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.

John



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Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Fletcher
Awesome, John! 

I had seen their offer and I so wanted to cancel the TV cable and switch to the 
higher speed internet (as they cost about the same), but that would have been 
prohibitively expensive, what with the divorce and all. And the medical bills 
to cover my brain injuries.

Maybe when Insight gets the fiber here, and the Apple TV includes TLC and the 
food channel I can talk her into it.

Nice analysis and news-gethering for us, though, John. Thanks!

j.




On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote:

 Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, 
 but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me.  I had 
 wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the 
 full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my 
 download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed?
 
 Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
 Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and 
 videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together in 
 a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 505 
 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 
 
 I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight 
 offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I could 
 download it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting was 4.3 
 down, even though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy still here 
 and my question for all these years was answered.  I AM only going to get 
 what the site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 50 really 
 helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get 
 THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max.  
 
 Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase 
 their upload speeds.
 
 He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 
 meg download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber 
 to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't 
 an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they 
 will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that 
 uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple 
 is ready for this one when it gets here.
 
 He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I 
 guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said 
 the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.
 
 I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 
 50 down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a 
 difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.
 
 John
 

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Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread John Robinson
Jonathan,

It's not your brain injuries I worry about it's the divorce, it cost more!!

Even if they bring the fiber to the house next year, and install a new modem to 
handle the fiber and the 100 meg., the existing Airport Extreme's will still 
handle it,  they can handle 150 meg input.  I did notice a huge difference in 
rebooting the router.  With either Insight or the ATT DSL, when you plug the 
router in there is the long pause with the yellow light, finally a blinking 
yellow light and it eventually goes green.

Still had the long pause with the yellow light, the blink was at the most one 
(1) and it was green, that was a huge difference.  

Jonathan, you have a lot of friends, several on this list, so if we need to 
pass the cup just let us know.

John


On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:

 Awesome, John! 
 
 I had seen their offer and I so wanted to cancel the TV cable and switch to 
 the higher speed internet (as they cost about the same), but that would have 
 been prohibitively expensive, what with the divorce and all. And the medical 
 bills to cover my brain injuries.
 
 Maybe when Insight gets the fiber here, and the Apple TV includes TLC and the 
 food channel I can talk her into it.
 
 Nice analysis and news-gethering for us, though, John. Thanks!
 
 j.
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote:
 
 Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, 
 but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me.  I had 
 wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting 
 the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my 
 download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed?
 
 Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
 Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and 
 videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together 
 in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 
 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 
 
 I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that 
 Insight offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I 
 could download it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting 
 was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy 
 still here and my question for all these years was answered.  I AM only 
 going to get what the site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 
 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be 
 able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached 
 the 50 max.  
 
 Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase 
 their upload speeds.
 
 He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 
 meg download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber 
 to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't 
 an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they 
 will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that 
 uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple 
 is ready for this one when it gets here.
 
 He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads 
 (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he 
 said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.
 
 I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 
 50 down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a 
 difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.
 
 John
 
 
 --
 Jonathan Fletcher
 FileMaker 9  10 Certified Developer
 
 Fletcher Data Consulting
 jonat...@fletcherdata.com
 http://www.fletcherdata.com
 502-509-7137
 
 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group
 Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish
 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville
 Info  RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php
 Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com
 Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread John Robinson
Hopefully a final note from me concerning the Insight 50 meg speeds (O.K., stop 
applauding) but here is where it REALLY shines.  The 505 meg movie that I sent 
out twice last night, each time the bar on YouSend it started out at 2 hrs, 
then quickly settled on just over an hour, and it did take that long.

I have a close friend with children that would love this so I waited to send 
the file to him after the new install.  Once it started YouSend it landed on 13 
minutes and went down from there.  The uploading is so much faster.

John



 
 
 
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote:
 
 Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this 
 fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered 
 me.  I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really 
 be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed 
 close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the 
 higher speed?
 
 Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
 Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and 
 videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together 
 in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 
 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 
 
 I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that 
 Insight offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I 
 could download it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting 
 was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy 
 still here and my question for all these years was answered.  I AM only 
 going to get what the site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 
 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be 
 able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached 
 the 50 max.  
 
 Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase 
 their upload speeds.
 
 He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 
 meg download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber 
 to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't 
 an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they 
 will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that 
 uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple 
 is ready for this one when it gets here.
 
 He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads 
 (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he 
 said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.
 
 I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 
 50 down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice 
 a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.
 
 John
 
 
 --
 Jonathan Fletcher
 FileMaker 9  10 Certified Developer
 
 Fletcher Data Consulting
 jonat...@fletcherdata.com
 http://www.fletcherdata.com
 502-509-7137
 
 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group
 Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish
 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville
 Info  RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php
 Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread Ben Hershberg
Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg
On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote:

 Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, 
 but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me.  I had 
 wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the 
 full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my 
 download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed?
 
 Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
 Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and 
 videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together in 
 a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 505 
 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 
 
 I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight 
 offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I could 
 download it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting was 4.3 
 down, even though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy still here 
 and my question for all these years was answered.  I AM only going to get 
 what the site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 50 really 
 helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get 
 THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max.  
 
 Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase 
 their upload speeds.
 
 He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 
 meg download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber 
 to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't 
 an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they 
 will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that 
 uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple 
 is ready for this one when it gets here.
 
 He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I 
 guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said 
 the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.
 
 I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 
 50 down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a 
 difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.
 
 John
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg

2010-12-06 Thread John Robinson
Ben,

Right now they are running a special for $50.00 per month but after that it 
will be $60.00 a month, according to the rep. I talked to.  Could be it will 
never be more than the 50.00.  One additional note, the iPhone performed much 
better with downloads not much better than before, say around 13.5, BUT the 
iPhone upload was over 5.0, just like the computers.  Prior the upload on the 
iPhone was in the 1.5 range if I remember right.

John


On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Ben Hershberg wrote:

 Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote:
 
 Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, 
 but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me.  I had 
 wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting 
 the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my 
 download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed?
 
 Today I found that was true.  This weekend we took the grandchildren to the 
 Polar Express train ride in French Lick.  I took a high def. camera and 
 videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least.  I put it together 
 in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children.  The file was 
 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. 
 
 I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that 
 Insight offers with the 20 meg.  I sent myself a copy of the video so I 
 could download it this morning to test the 50 meg.  The best I was getting 
 was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50.  I did this with the tech guy 
 still here and my question for all these years was answered.  I AM only 
 going to get what the site I go to will upload.  Makes sense.  So where the 
 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be 
 able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached 
 the 50 max.  
 
 Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase 
 their upload speeds.
 
 He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 
 meg download speeds.  Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber 
 to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't 
 an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room.   The NEXT thing they 
 will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that 
 uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple 
 is ready for this one when it gets here.
 
 He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads 
 (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he 
 said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer.
 
 I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 
 50 down and 5.2 up.  At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a 
 difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed.
 
 John
 
 
 
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