Re: [MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[Jonathan Fletcher]

Bill, I have not done any 2014s, but I have done a boatload of 2010-2012s. 

Some basic tips:

. Make sure you have all the tools you will need. Order a kit from iFixit if 
you don’t have it all.
. Give yourself plenty of room on a flat level surface that has something on it 
to keep stuff from rolling. I used a (very) large mouse-pad-like surface. A 
table cloth or newspaper also works.
. As you pull screws and stuff from the box lay them out in a line in the order 
you removed them, so you can reverse the process easily,
. Watch the videos and look at iFixit’s high-res photos to be sure of what you 
are doing. 
. Make sure you know which way the connecters are to be removed. Some are 
straight up and others pull sideways. Know which way before you start.
. Take deep breaths and relax. The 2014 may have slightly more screws and 
steps, but otherwise it is pretty much exactly like the earlier unibody ones. 

Yes, a coat hanger will work, but if you order your drive from MacSales, they 
will include a kit, unless you tell them not to. 

Jonathan


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:31, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I just went through the steps in #1 below, on my older Mini’s 2009 and 2011 
>> it’s not ear this complicated,
> 
> Yeah... I'd done a replacement on a mac mini in the past, and it was painful. 
> The 2014 makes the repair look more like a root canal. Still, sitting and 
> waiting for the creeeping hard drive is like water dripping on my 
> forehead.
> 
>> in fact I’ve done all of them without using the U shaped tool to move the 
>> motherboard…it’s just not easy…in all cases I remove the fan, and then 
>> remove the drive below the fan…it’s really a bear to get out without moving 
>> everything forward but I didn’t have to take everything out of the case as 
>> in the instructions…possibly the 2014 Mini is different.
> 
> The 2014 must be completely disassembled to get to the hard drive (i.e. the 
> one part that has a chance of breaking in a normal lifetime). It's not made 
> for maintenance.
> 
>> The one mistake I made, the heat wrap around the old drive with the heat 
>> sync cable that goes onto the motherboard I didn’t put back on the SSD, and 
>> that made the fans run wide open so I had to take back out and wrap the SSD 
>> just to add the connection for the fans…
> 
> Well, I'm gonna try to follow the instructions really carefully and not botch 
> anything. From experience, I'll for sure forget one thing, so I just hope it 
> is not in the middle of the repair.

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Re: [MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[Bill Rising]

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:31, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I just went through the steps in #1 below, on my older Mini’s 2009 and 2011 
> it’s not ear this complicated,

Yeah... I'd done a replacement on a mac mini in the past, and it was painful. 
The 2014 makes the repair look more like a root canal. Still, sitting and 
waiting for the creeeping hard drive is like water dripping on my forehead.

> in fact I’ve done all of them without using the U shaped tool to move the 
> motherboard…it’s just not easy…in all cases I remove the fan, and then remove 
> the drive below the fan…it’s really a bear to get out without moving 
> everything forward but I didn’t have to take everything out of the case as in 
> the instructions…possibly the 2014 Mini is different.

The 2014 must be completely disassembled to get to the hard drive (i.e. the one 
part that has a chance of breaking in a normal lifetime). It's not made for 
maintenance.

> The one mistake I made, the heat wrap around the old drive with the heat sync 
> cable that goes onto the motherboard I didn’t put back on the SSD, and that 
> made the fans run wide open so I had to take back out and wrap the SSD just 
> to add the connection for the fans…

Well, I'm gonna try to follow the instructions really carefully and not botch 
anything. From experience, I'll for sure forget one thing, so I just hope it is 
not in the middle of the repair.

Bill
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay on a Dedktop

[John Robinson]

It’s so cool, allows any of us to take payments from our iPad, iPhone or from a 
desk terminal the box is attached to.

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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> what is square?
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:23 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
>> normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
>> using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
>>> 
 On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
 
 On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
> authentication going to work?
 
 I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has 
 a fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
 Groupon.
 
 L^2
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay on a Dedktop

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

what is square?
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:23 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
> normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
> using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
 authentication going to work?
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>>> Groupon.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
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>>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>>> 
>>> ‌Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been 
>>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
>>> 
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[John Robinson]

Harry,

Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.

John


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> ---
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
>> ‌Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been 
>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
>> 
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[John Robinson]

Harry,

Here is a good list for in store, on the Web and for giving to Charity…it’s not 
complete as I just purchased from Tumi and it’s not on the list.


John



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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
>> ‌Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been 
>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay on a Dedktop

[John Robinson]

Harry,

ApplePay is offered on many sites, I’ve used it a dozen times…when checking out 
there are choices of PayPal, the credit cards and if the firm has decided to 
include ApplePay the Icon is included.

Clicking on it with a Laptop as Lee has then authentication is by Lee using his 
fingerprint on the laptop, but if your on a regular keyboard as I was today 
then I learned they access the Apple Watch and ask for me to authorize, if I 
didn’t have the watch then I’m sure they would have ask me to approve through 
the iPhone.

I still believe Apple will bring out a keyboard that has the fingerprint button 
as Lee’s laptop does…a wild guess but until then it can still be done as I 
discovered today.

John


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
>> ‌Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been 
>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
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Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>> authentication going to work?
> 
> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
> Groupon.
> 
> L^2
> 
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> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[John Robinson]

Bill,

I just went through the steps in #1 below, on my older Mini’s 2009 and 2011 
it’s not ear this complicated, in fact I’ve done all of them without using the 
U shaped tool to move the motherboard…it’s just not easy…in all cases I remove 
the fan, and then remove the drive below the fan…it’s really a bear to get out 
without moving everything forward but I didn’t have to take everything out of 
the case as in the instructions…possibly the 2014 Mini is different.

The one mistake I made, the heat wrap around the old drive with the heat sync 
cable that goes onto the motherboard I didn’t put back on the SSD, and that 
made the fans run wide open so I had to take back out and wrap the SSD just to 
add the connection for the fans…


John



> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I finally got sick of my 2014 mac mini and its abhorrently slow performance 
> (likely due to the crappy stock 5400rpm stack of spinning rust). So... I'm 
> getting and SSD to replace the internal drive.
> 
> When looking on iFixit for the repair instructions [1], I saw that iFixit 
> says that I should get a Mac Mini Logic Board Removal Tool [2]. This looks 
> like something that old coat hangers are made for... but just in case, does 
> anyone have a feeling about the true necessity of such a device?
> 
> Bill
> 
> [1] They are very long, so it'll be a nice evening project 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ifixit.com_Guide_Mac-2BMini-2BLate-2B2014-2BHard-2BDrive-2BReplacement_32815=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=Hb37skIAuEUTr_eV5paI48vLvh6mKacN3ssT30fuJys=NlsktXVrehijJszIoGJjZCwuOQdUVqG32Vir5HDH8s0=
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Re: [MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[John Robinson]

Bill,

I would think anything that would fit in the two holes would work, a couple 
olive forks?

John


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:10, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I’ve replaced several drives in the Mini’s both the kind where you had to 
>> use two putty knives to spread the sides apart and the more recent models 
>> where the bottom comes off.
>> 
>> I did all of these without the tool, and believe me, getting the old drive 
>> out and the new SSD in is a bear, not enough room…then one day I was at 
>> Johnathan Fletcher’s house and he tore one of mine apart and used the tool…
>> 
>> Grief, what a help….there are two holes in the motherboard, the tool goes in 
>> the holes and you move the entire mechanism “out” of the case…you don’t move 
>> it far, 1/4 inch, possibly 1/8 and now there is plenty of room to work.
> 
> OK... so it sounds worthwhile. Can it be cobbed from a hanger, though?
> 
>> 
>> Once installed use the tool to move everything back flush inside the case..
>> 
>> Jonathan says that wherever he purchases his SSD’s they send the small kit 
>> with the drive, it has all the small screwdrivers, torque drives and the U 
>> shaped tool to move the innards.
> 
> I think this is what comes with a full replacement kit from iFixit. I got my 
> hard drive from New Egg, so they don't have the repair kits. I've got 
> everything else I need, just not the u-shaped thingy.
> 
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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:10, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I’ve replaced several drives in the Mini’s both the kind where you had to use 
> two putty knives to spread the sides apart and the more recent models where 
> the bottom comes off.
> 
> I did all of these without the tool, and believe me, getting the old drive 
> out and the new SSD in is a bear, not enough room…then one day I was at 
> Johnathan Fletcher’s house and he tore one of mine apart and used the tool…
> 
> Grief, what a help….there are two holes in the motherboard, the tool goes in 
> the holes and you move the entire mechanism “out” of the case…you don’t move 
> it far, 1/4 inch, possibly 1/8 and now there is plenty of room to work.

OK... so it sounds worthwhile. Can it be cobbed from a hanger, though?

> 
> Once installed use the tool to move everything back flush inside the case..
> 
> Jonathan says that wherever he purchases his SSD’s they send the small kit 
> with the drive, it has all the small screwdrivers, torque drives and the U 
> shaped tool to move the innards.

I think this is what comes with a full replacement kit from iFixit. I got my 
hard drive from New Egg, so they don't have the repair kits. I've got 
everything else I need, just not the u-shaped thingy.

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[Lee Larson]

On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson > wrote:

> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
> authentication going to work?


I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
Groupon.

L^2

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[MacGroup] Apple Pay on a Dedktop

[John Robinson]

I’m like Johnny Appleseed, going round spreading ApplePay seeds….

Today I had my first experience using ApplePay from a desktop, normally I’m 
using a mobile devise where I have the fingerprint authentication.

Today Tumi had a bag that will fit my equipment when going to the gym, it was 
over 30% off, then another 10% for Cyber Monday…

At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was authentication 
going to work?

I clicked on the ApplePay and Apple filled in all the particulars of the sale, 
I didn’t have to type a thing….Then my Apple Watch started vibrating with an 
arrow for me to double tap the bottom button, the one we use for ApplePay in 
the store.  

Once I did that then my debit card appeared, I could have switched to the 
credit cards but I left on debit..

Soon the window on the monitor got a checkmark and the transaction was complete…

I felt Apple would put a fingerprint button on the keyboards for on-line 
shopping, now I see for purchases this is not needed.

Cool, Ray-Ban glasses, open shirt and gold chain…I mean we’re hip for sure.


John



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Re: [MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[John Robinson]

Bill,

I’ve replaced several drives in the Mini’s both the kind where you had to use 
two putty knives to spread the sides apart and the more recent models where the 
bottom comes off.

I did all of these without the tool, and believe me, getting the old drive out 
and the new SSD in is a bear, not enough room…then one day I was at Johnathan 
Fletcher’s house and he tore one of mine apart and used the tool…

Grief, what a help….there are two holes in the motherboard, the tool goes in 
the holes and you move the entire mechanism “out” of the case…you don’t move it 
far, 1/4 inch, possibly 1/8 and now there is plenty of room to work.

Once installed use the tool to move everything back flush inside the case..

Jonathan says that wherever he purchases his SSD’s they send the small kit with 
the drive, it has all the small screwdrivers, torque drives and the U shaped 
tool to move the innards.

John



> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I finally got sick of my 2014 mac mini and its abhorrently slow performance 
> (likely due to the crappy stock 5400rpm stack of spinning rust). So... I'm 
> getting and SSD to replace the internal drive.
> 
> When looking on iFixit for the repair instructions [1], I saw that iFixit 
> says that I should get a Mac Mini Logic Board Removal Tool [2]. This looks 
> like something that old coat hangers are made for... but just in case, does 
> anyone have a feeling about the true necessity of such a device?
> 
> Bill
> 
> [1] They are very long, so it'll be a nice evening project 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ifixit.com_Guide_Mac-2BMini-2BLate-2B2014-2BHard-2BDrive-2BReplacement_32815=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=Hb37skIAuEUTr_eV5paI48vLvh6mKacN3ssT30fuJys=NlsktXVrehijJszIoGJjZCwuOQdUVqG32Vir5HDH8s0=
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> [2] 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ifixit.com_Store_Tools_Mac-2DMini-2DLogic-2DBoard-2DRemoval-2DTool_IF145-2D159-2D1=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=Hb37skIAuEUTr_eV5paI48vLvh6mKacN3ssT30fuJys=Qr6wYK46uZfvdwcORX9NnyRFwaNTbVN-qy_WnnbTQHY=
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[MacGroup] Mac Mini hard drive replacement

[Bill Rising]

Hi all,

I finally got sick of my 2014 mac mini and its abhorrently slow performance 
(likely due to the crappy stock 5400rpm stack of spinning rust). So... I'm 
getting and SSD to replace the internal drive.

When looking on iFixit for the repair instructions [1], I saw that iFixit says 
that I should get a Mac Mini Logic Board Removal Tool [2]. This looks like 
something that old coat hangers are made for... but just in case, does anyone 
have a feeling about the true necessity of such a device?

Bill

[1] They are very long, so it'll be a nice evening project 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ifixit.com_Guide_Mac-2BMini-2BLate-2B2014-2BHard-2BDrive-2BReplacement_32815=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=Hb37skIAuEUTr_eV5paI48vLvh6mKacN3ssT30fuJys=NlsktXVrehijJszIoGJjZCwuOQdUVqG32Vir5HDH8s0=

[2] 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ifixit.com_Store_Tools_Mac-2DMini-2DLogic-2DBoard-2DRemoval-2DTool_IF145-2D159-2D1=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=Hb37skIAuEUTr_eV5paI48vLvh6mKacN3ssT30fuJys=Qr6wYK46uZfvdwcORX9NnyRFwaNTbVN-qy_WnnbTQHY=
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Re: [MacGroup] Another recommendation needed: routers

[Bill Rising]

OK... I decided to go with Lee's suggestion because 

  He has had a good experience
  It got good reviews when it first came out
  It has 3 bands instead of 2
  I don't think I need a wave 2 (MU-MIMO) router quite yet
  The router has been on the market for a while without complaints about major 
meltdowns (unlike the Netgear 7000P)
  My house isn't really big enough to warrant a mesh router
  Just to be sure about the last one, I played with (limited) changes to 
locations of my current router and found that moving it just 5 feet improved 
its range.

I haven't picked up the router yet, but I'll get it today and set it up... 
we'll see how it works.

Thanks,

Bill
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