Re: [MacGroup] What SSD Drive?

[John Robinson]

Thanks Jonathan, I ordered the one Dan suggested and it is suppose to be here 
tomorrow.  This will save $10.00 a month once the faster speeds arrive.

I so appreciate all the help from the folks on this list, it’s better than the 
Great Carnac   

John




> On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
> wrote:
> 
> John, 
> 
> I’m not using a modem from TWC. I bought my last one from Amazon. I can’t 
> return it now, but if I have to buy another one I’ll get it from Amazon, too. 
> 
> Unlike the technology that uverse uses, cable modems are pretty 
> standards-based and you can get any DOCSIS 3 device, that will handle the 
> speeds, to work. All of the devices that TWC lists as compatible with their 
> system are also available elsewhere.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> You can return your old TW modem to Amazon?  
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the warning! I guess I’ll use Amazon, then.
> 
> 
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[Jonathan Fletcher]

John, 

I’m not using a modem from TWC. I bought my last one from Amazon. I can’t 
return it now, but if I have to buy another one I’ll get it from Amazon, too. 

Unlike the technology that uverse uses, cable modems are pretty standards-based 
and you can get any DOCSIS 3 device, that will handle the speeds, to work. All 
of the devices that TWC lists as compatible with their system are also 
available elsewhere.

Jonathan


> On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> You can return your old TW modem to Amazon?  
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the warning! I guess I’ll use Amazon, then.



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[John Robinson]

Also, 

New Albany only has ONE place, I imagine Louisville has several sites to do the 
changeout.  



> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the warning! I guess I’ll use Amazon, then.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to TimeWarner early this morning to return the old modem, lined 
>> around the wall and out the door.   I went back about 1:00, same thing and 
>> myself and another guy left grumbling…went back a little after 4:00 and I 
>> was lucky I got in fine, by the time I left they were double parked and out 
>> the door.  Seems bunches of folks are getting the new modems, whew.
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] What SSD Drive?

[John Robinson]

You can return your old TW modem to Amazon?  


John


> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the warning! I guess I’ll use Amazon, then.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to TimeWarner early this morning to return the old modem, lined 
>> around the wall and out the door.   I went back about 1:00, same thing and 
>> myself and another guy left grumbling…went back a little after 4:00 and I 
>> was lucky I got in fine, by the time I left they were double parked and out 
>> the door.  Seems bunches of folks are getting the new modems, whew.
>> 
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[Jonathan Fletcher]

Thanks for the warning! I guess I’ll use Amazon, then.

Jonathan


> On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I went to TimeWarner early this morning to return the old modem, lined around 
> the wall and out the door.   I went back about 1:00, same thing and myself 
> and another guy left grumbling…went back a little after 4:00 and I was lucky 
> I got in fine, by the time I left they were double parked and out the door.  
> Seems bunches of folks are getting the new modems, whew.
> 

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Re: [MacGroup] What SSD Drive?

[John Robinson]

Thanks Jonathan, I believe Dan’s solution will work fine and like you say I am 
keeping the modem separate from the router.  

I went to TimeWarner early this morning to return the old modem, lined around 
the wall and out the door.   I went back about 1:00, same thing and myself and 
another guy left grumbling…went back a little after 4:00 and I was lucky I got 
in fine, by the time I left they were double parked and out the door.  Seems 
bunches of folks are getting the new modems, whew.


John



> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> They should be able to, or tell you how. I would not get a combo unit because 
> it limits your choices of wireless features. Get a simple modem that is rated 
> for the speed and then plug your router and wifi units into that. Then if one 
> of them goes out, you only have to replace that part.
> 
> 
> BTW, TWC lists a variety of modems that are compatible with their various 
> levels of service here:
> 
> http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/support/internet/topics/lease-or-buy-modem.html
> 
> Click on the "300 Mbps" section to see what they consider workable.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:22 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> One final note, the TimeWarner folks told me to call the same number that I 
>> called for their modem and they would set up my own modem to be sure it’s 
>> working.  Not sure if they can set this modem to Bridge mode, we’ll see.
> 
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[Jonathan Fletcher]

They should be able to, or tell you how. I would not get a combo unit because 
it limits your choices of wireless features. Get a simple modem that is rated 
for the speed and then plug your router and wifi units into that. Then if one 
of them goes out, you only have to replace that part.


BTW, TWC lists a variety of modems that are compatible with their various 
levels of service here:

http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/support/internet/topics/lease-or-buy-modem.html

Click on the "300 Mbps" section to see what they consider workable.

Jonathan





> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:22 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> One final note, the TimeWarner folks told me to call the same number that I 
> called for their modem and they would set up my own modem to be sure it’s 
> working.  Not sure if they can set this modem to Bridge mode, we’ll see.

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Re: [MacGroup] What SSD Drive?

[John Robinson]

One final note, the TimeWarner folks told me to call the same number that I 
called for their modem and they would set up my own modem to be sure it’s 
working.  Not sure if they can set this modem to Bridge mode, we’ll see.

John


> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:11 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Chris, I am ordering now….so appreciate your help.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Chris Denny > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My Time Capsule and Arris work well together
>> I get a 300 meg connection over wifi with my TC.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:00 PM, John Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> In looking at the back of the NetGear modem/Router there is no COAX 
>>> connection, which is how TimeWarner brings connectivity TO the 
>>> modem…outbound is through ethernet or wireless but at first blush this unit 
>>> won’t work.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Lee Larson > wrote:
 
 On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:15 PM, John Robinson > wrote:
 
> My 2009 MacBook Pro (with the removable battery) is needing a new drive, 
> it’s slower than watching corn grow.  I want to get a new Macbook but 
> will wait until the new models come out later this year. My daughter is 
> wanting a laptop so I might be able to fix this one for her to use.
 
 That’s still a pretty capable machine, even seven years later. I still use 
 one as my main machine for writing and email because it’s got a good 
 display, nice keyboard and dual-core 2.4 GHz processor. The newer machines 
 often seem faster, not because their hardware is so much better, but 
 because of the SSD drives.
 
 
> Any suggestions as to what is a good brand, where to purchase?
 
 Pretty much any 2.5” SATA drive should work. My solution, a little more 
 than a year ago, was to compromise with a Seagate ST1000DX hybrid drive. 
 This is a 1 TB spinning drive with a built-in 8 GB solid-state cache. It’s 
 kind of like Apple’s Mechanical/SSD Fusion drive combo. The firmware on 
 the drive watches which files you use most often and keeps them in the 
 cache, so it’s pretty fast loading the programs you always use — after it 
 learns what they are. You can pick up such a drive for $75 or so.
 
 A year ago, SSDs were still pretty expensive, but they’ve come down in 
 price so much over the last year, that I’d probably go with one of those 
 now. Before buying one, do a little research to get a drive supported by 
 the TRIM in El Capitan and learn how to turn it on. Otherwise, the 
 performance of your SSD will degrade over time.
 
 Don’t expect spectacular SSD performance off that machine because it’s got 
 a slower SATA bus than the newer machines. You may be able to improve it a 
 lot by making sure you’ve installed Apple’s firmware patches which raised 
 the link speed from 1.5 Gb/s to 3.0 Gb/s. It made a real difference on my 
 machine. The upgrades weren’t available on all the 2009 machines.
 
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[John Robinson]

O.K., I’ll head there now, thanks Chris.



> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Chris Denny  wrote:
> 
> Take my word for it and get the Arris/Motorola Surboard 6183 it's around a 
> 100 bucks on Amazon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:00 PM, John Robinson  > wrote:
> 
>> In looking at the back of the NetGear modem/Router there is no COAX 
>> connection, which is how TimeWarner brings connectivity TO the 
>> modem…outbound is through ethernet or wireless but at first blush this unit 
>> won’t work.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Lee Larson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:15 PM, John Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
 My 2009 MacBook Pro (with the removable battery) is needing a new drive, 
 it’s slower than watching corn grow.  I want to get a new Macbook but will 
 wait until the new models come out later this year. My daughter is wanting 
 a laptop so I might be able to fix this one for her to use.
>>> 
>>> That’s still a pretty capable machine, even seven years later. I still use 
>>> one as my main machine for writing and email because it’s got a good 
>>> display, nice keyboard and dual-core 2.4 GHz processor. The newer machines 
>>> often seem faster, not because their hardware is so much better, but 
>>> because of the SSD drives.
>>> 
>>> 
 Any suggestions as to what is a good brand, where to purchase?
>>> 
>>> Pretty much any 2.5” SATA drive should work. My solution, a little more 
>>> than a year ago, was to compromise with a Seagate ST1000DX hybrid drive. 
>>> This is a 1 TB spinning drive with a built-in 8 GB solid-state cache. It’s 
>>> kind of like Apple’s Mechanical/SSD Fusion drive combo. The firmware on the 
>>> drive watches which files you use most often and keeps them in the cache, 
>>> so it’s pretty fast loading the programs you always use — after it learns 
>>> what they are. You can pick up such a drive for $75 or so.
>>> 
>>> A year ago, SSDs were still pretty expensive, but they’ve come down in 
>>> price so much over the last year, that I’d probably go with one of those 
>>> now. Before buying one, do a little research to get a drive supported by 
>>> the TRIM in El Capitan and learn how to turn it on. Otherwise, the 
>>> performance of your SSD will degrade over time.
>>> 
>>> Don’t expect spectacular SSD performance off that machine because it’s got 
>>> a slower SATA bus than the newer machines. You may be able to improve it a 
>>> lot by making sure you’ve installed Apple’s firmware patches which raised 
>>> the link speed from 1.5 Gb/s to 3.0 Gb/s. It made a real difference on my 
>>> machine. The upgrades weren’t available on all the 2009 machines.
>>> 
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[Chris Denny]

Take my word for it and get the Arris/Motorola Surboard 6183 it's around a 100 
bucks on Amazon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:00 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> In looking at the back of the NetGear modem/Router there is no COAX 
> connection, which is how TimeWarner brings connectivity TO the modem…outbound 
> is through ethernet or wireless but at first blush this unit won’t work.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My 2009 MacBook Pro (with the removable battery) is needing a new drive, 
>>> it’s slower than watching corn grow.  I want to get a new Macbook but will 
>>> wait until the new models come out later this year. My daughter is wanting 
>>> a laptop so I might be able to fix this one for her to use.
>> 
>> That’s still a pretty capable machine, even seven years later. I still use 
>> one as my main machine for writing and email because it’s got a good 
>> display, nice keyboard and dual-core 2.4 GHz processor. The newer machines 
>> often seem faster, not because their hardware is so much better, but because 
>> of the SSD drives.
>> 
>> 
>>> Any suggestions as to what is a good brand, where to purchase?
>> 
>> Pretty much any 2.5” SATA drive should work. My solution, a little more than 
>> a year ago, was to compromise with a Seagate ST1000DX hybrid drive. This is 
>> a 1 TB spinning drive with a built-in 8 GB solid-state cache. It’s kind of 
>> like Apple’s Mechanical/SSD Fusion drive combo. The firmware on the drive 
>> watches which files you use most often and keeps them in the cache, so it’s 
>> pretty fast loading the programs you always use — after it learns what they 
>> are. You can pick up such a drive for $75 or so.
>> 
>> A year ago, SSDs were still pretty expensive, but they’ve come down in price 
>> so much over the last year, that I’d probably go with one of those now. 
>> Before buying one, do a little research to get a drive supported by the TRIM 
>> in El Capitan and learn how to turn it on. Otherwise, the performance of 
>> your SSD will degrade over time.
>> 
>> Don’t expect spectacular SSD performance off that machine because it’s got a 
>> slower SATA bus than the newer machines. You may be able to improve it a lot 
>> by making sure you’ve installed Apple’s firmware patches which raised the 
>> link speed from 1.5 Gb/s to 3.0 Gb/s. It made a real difference on my 
>> machine. The upgrades weren’t available on all the 2009 machines.
>> 
>> L^2
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You can't use a DSL Modem with TWC. Netgear makes a cable modem with built in 
wifi if you want a combo.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 6:54 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Chris and Lee, so fantastic to have all this help at the end of a 
> keyboard.  It’s so valuable and we in this group are quite fortunate to have 
> those so willing to give of their time to help others….no little matter.
> 
> I did take the old modem back to TimeWarner so I wouldn’t be charged.  I did 
> ask them if buying my own modem would save me a monthly fee…sure enough, it’s 
> now $8.00 a month rental and going to $10.00…Jonathan was right, they will 
> get their slice of hide somehow.  
> 
> I can use any modem that will support the higher speeds and while there the 
> employee looked up and found a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Wi-Fi Router with 
> VDSL/ADSL Modem.  With speeds up to 1900 Mbps and lots of other technical 
> jargon it would work (according to this guy) and the speeds are almost 5 x 
> the max. that TimeWarner will be supporting.
> 
> Since I have NEVER used anything but an Apple Router what are the thoughts on 
> this unit?  It does say it requires the download of their Genie App to 
> control the unit so I gather it’s written for Apple products?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My 2009 MacBook Pro (with the removable battery) is needing a new drive, 
>>> it’s slower than watching corn grow.  I want to get a new Macbook but will 
>>> wait until the new models come out later this year. My daughter is wanting 
>>> a laptop so I might be able to fix this one for her to use.
>> 
>> That’s still a pretty capable machine, even seven years later. I still use 
>> one as my main machine for writing and email because it’s got a good 
>> display, nice keyboard and dual-core 2.4 GHz processor. The newer machines 
>> often seem faster, not because their hardware is so much better, but because 
>> of the SSD drives.
>> 
>> 
>>> Any suggestions as to what is a good brand, where to purchase?
>> 
>> Pretty much any 2.5” SATA drive should work. My solution, a little more than 
>> a year ago, was to compromise with a Seagate ST1000DX hybrid drive. This is 
>> a 1 TB spinning drive with a built-in 8 GB solid-state cache. It’s kind of 
>> like Apple’s Mechanical/SSD Fusion drive combo. The firmware on the drive 
>> watches which files you use most often and keeps them in the cache, so it’s 
>> pretty fast loading the programs you always use — after it learns what they 
>> are. You can pick up such a drive for $75 or so.
>> 
>> A year ago, SSDs were still pretty expensive, but they’ve come down in price 
>> so much over the last year, that I’d probably go with one of those now. 
>> Before buying one, do a little research to get a drive supported by the TRIM 
>> in El Capitan and learn how to turn it on. Otherwise, the performance of 
>> your SSD will degrade over time.
>> 
>> Don’t expect spectacular SSD performance off that machine because it’s got a 
>> slower SATA bus than the newer machines. You may be able to improve it a lot 
>> by making sure you’ve installed Apple’s firmware patches which raised the 
>> link speed from 1.5 Gb/s to 3.0 Gb/s. It made a real difference on my 
>> machine. The upgrades weren’t available on all the 2009 machines.
>> 
>> L^2
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On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:

> My 2009 MacBook Pro (with the removable battery) is needing a new drive, it’s 
> slower than watching corn grow.  I want to get a new Macbook but will wait 
> until the new models come out later this year. My daughter is wanting a 
> laptop so I might be able to fix this one for her to use.

That’s still a pretty capable machine, even seven years later. I still use one 
as my main machine for writing and email because it’s got a good display, nice 
keyboard and dual-core 2.4 GHz processor. The newer machines often seem faster, 
not because their hardware is so much better, but because of the SSD drives.


> Any suggestions as to what is a good brand, where to purchase?

Pretty much any 2.5” SATA drive should work. My solution, a little more than a 
year ago, was to compromise with a Seagate ST1000DX hybrid drive. This is a 1 
TB spinning drive with a built-in 8 GB solid-state cache. It’s kind of like 
Apple’s Mechanical/SSD Fusion drive combo. The firmware on the drive watches 
which files you use most often and keeps them in the cache, so it’s pretty fast 
loading the programs you always use — after it learns what they are. You can 
pick up such a drive for $75 or so.

A year ago, SSDs were still pretty expensive, but they’ve come down in price so 
much over the last year, that I’d probably go with one of those now. Before 
buying one, do a little research to get a drive supported by the TRIM in El 
Capitan and learn how to turn it on. Otherwise, the performance of your SSD 
will degrade over time.

Don’t expect spectacular SSD performance off that machine because it’s got a 
slower SATA bus than the newer machines. You may be able to improve it a lot by 
making sure you’ve installed Apple’s firmware patches which raised the link 
speed from 1.5 Gb/s to 3.0 Gb/s. It made a real difference on my machine. The 
upgrades weren’t available on all the 2009 machines.

L^2



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