Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[Alex Whitman]

Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable?

Alex Whitman

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:

> I use win.net
> 
> (aye.net
> ).
> DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me but then I’m slow. (
> win.net
> 
> )
>
> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
> 
>
> Anne
>
>
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>
> Been following this discussion -
> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and
> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this point)
> is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in the
> Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them,
> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
> Thanks,
> Bill M.
>
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>
> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all
> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual
> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong
> so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to
> check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in
> this day.
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>
>> YouTube TV. It's awesome.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet?
>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are only
>> 50 miles away buy high hills in the way.
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do
>>> have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I can
>>> watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I finish
>>> the series.
>>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when
>>> it’s over.
>>>
>>> Life is great without cable.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> > On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new
>>> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she said
>>> today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait and all
>>> were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>>> >
>>> > I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model
>>> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her an
>>> antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine
>>> without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>>> >
>>> > I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the
>>> morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, Microsoft,
>>> Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, some were for
>>> purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as the folks were
>>> soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In
>>> other words, what did I miss.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anne
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to
>>> head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens the line
>>> has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out to start taking
>>> names.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Apple is still a tech wonder.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> John
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[John Robinson]

Harry,

One Coax from the antenna, then feeding three TiVo boxes, I guess you have a 
hub?  If so, are all three fed at the same time or do you have to change which 
TiVo box gets the feed?

Thanks,

John

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
> the box. 
> 
> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than those 
> with.
> 
> Harry
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
>> 
>> Alex Whitman
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>> 
>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been following this discussion -
>>> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
>>> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this point) 
>>> is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in the 
>>> Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
>>> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill M.
>>> 
 On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
 channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
 program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
 so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
 check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
 this day.
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
 YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are only 
> 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
> Thanks
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
> wrote:
> John,
> 
> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do 
> have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I 
> can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I 
> finish the series.
> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
> it’s over.
> 
> Life is great without cable.
> 
> Harry
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
>> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she said 
>> today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait and all 
>> were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>> 
>> I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
>> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her 
>> an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine 
>> without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>> 
>> I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
>> morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
>> Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
>> some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
>> the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
>>> other words, what did I miss.
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
 head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens the 
 line has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out to start 
 taking names.
 
 Apple is still a tech wonder.
 
 John
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone___
 MacGroup mailing list
 Posting address: 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Alex,

I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. Works 
well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and the box. 

TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than those 
with.

Harry

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
> 
> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
> 
> Alex Whitman
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
> 
> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>> 
>> Been following this discussion -
>> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
>> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this point) 
>> is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in the 
>> Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
>> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
>> Thanks,
>> Bill M.
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all channels 
>>> that its available on. you have to click on each individual program and CC 
>>> for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong so got on live 
>>> chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to check. Came back 
>>> and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in this day.
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>>> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? Where 
 I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are only 50 
 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
 Thanks
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
 wrote:
 John,
 
 We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do 
 have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I 
 can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I 
 finish the series.
 when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
 it’s over.
 
 Life is great without cable.
 
 Harry
 
 > On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
 > wrote:
 >
 > Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
 > product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she said 
 > today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait and all 
 > were doing the same, cutting the cable.
 >
 > I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
 > (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her 
 > an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine 
 > without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
 >
 > I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
 > morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
 > Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
 > some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
 > the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
 >
 > John
 >
 >
 >
 >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
 >>
 >> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
 >> other words, what did I miss.
 >>
 >> Anne
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson  
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
 >>> head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens the 
 >>> line has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out to start 
 >>> taking names.
 >>>
 >>> Apple is still a tech wonder.
 >>>
 >>> John
 >>>
 >>> 
 >>>
 >>> Sent from my iPhone___
 >>> MacGroup mailing list
 >>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 >>> Archive: 
 >>> 
 >>> Answers to questions: 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[Ed Wiser]

TiVo can be used OTA. Using an Antenna you can get all the local channels. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
> 
> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
> 
> Alex Whitman
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>> 
>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been following this discussion -
>>> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
>>> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this point) 
>>> is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in the 
>>> Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
>>> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill M.
>>> 
 On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
 channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
 program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
 so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
 check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
 this day.
 Tom
 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I 
>>> do have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access 
>>> so I can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon 
>>> as I finish the series.
>>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
>>> it’s over.
>>> 
>>> Life is great without cable.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> > On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson 
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
>>> > product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
>>> > said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
>>> > and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>>> >
>>> > I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
>>> > (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered 
>>> > her an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by 
>>> > just fine without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>>> >
>>> > I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
>>> > morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
>>> > Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a 
>>> > class, some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled 
>>> > company as the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting 
>>> > them cared for…
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
>>> >> other words, what did I miss.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anne
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson  
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
>>> >>> head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens 
>>> >>> the line has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out 
>>> >>> to start taking names.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Apple is still a tech wonder.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> John
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone___
>>> >>> MacGroup mailing list
>>> >>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
>>> >>> Archive: 
>>> >>> 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[John Robinson]

As I mentioned earlier, I hooked up an indoor plastic, paper thin,  antenna for 
my daughter about two weeks ago, unbelievably clear picture.  She pays Sling 
$20 something a month & gets all the programming she ever used with Spectrum, 
at a fifth of the cost.  I installed an Apple TV so now she has a complete 
system that is on the cheap, defeating the TV cartel.  

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
> 
> TiVo can be used OTA. Using an Antenna you can get all the local channels. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
>> 
>> Alex Whitman
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>>> 
>>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
 
 Been following this discussion -
 Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
 some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
 point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in 
 the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
 especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
 Thanks,
 Bill M.
 
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
> so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
> check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
> this day.
> Tom
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>> 
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
 wrote:
 John,
 
 We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I 
 do have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access 
 so I can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon 
 as I finish the series.
 when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
 it’s over.
 
 Life is great without cable.
 
 Harry
 
 > On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson 
 >  wrote:
 >
 > Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
 > product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
 > said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
 > and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
 >
 > I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
 > (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered 
 > her an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by 
 > just fine without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
 >
 > I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
 > morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
 > Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a 
 > class, some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled 
 > company as the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting 
 > them cared for…
 >
 > John
 >
 >
 >
 >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  
 >> wrote:
 >>
 >> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. 
 >> In other words, what did I miss.
 >>
 >> Anne
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson 
 >>>  wrote:
 >>>
 >>> 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
 >>> head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens 
 >>> the line has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out 
 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[John Robinson]

Awesome Harry, a problem solved…thanks so much.

John


> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I have a TiVo app on my iPad. I can download the programs to my iPad and 
> watch them. I can also stream to my iPad, even if I am away from my home 
> network but you need high speed on both ends and even then it’s twitchy.
> 
> I have an app on my Mac called cTivo which will transfer the program from the 
> TiVo to the Mac. On the Mac you can burn the program to a CD if you want to 
> save it and I suppose you can watch it on the computer but I’ve never tried 
> to do that.
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:59 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Also, Harry, can you record on the TiVo and then save the recording to a 
>> Mac?  
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex,
>>> 
>>> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
>>> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
>>> the box. 
>>> 
>>> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than 
>>> those with.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
 
 Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
 
 Alex Whitman
 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
 I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for 
 me but then I’m slow. (win.net)
 
 IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
 
 Anne
 
 
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> Been following this discussion -
> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
> point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in 
> the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
> Thanks,
> Bill M.
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
>> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
>> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something 
>> wrong so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and 
>> had to check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to 
>> believe in this day.
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I 
>>> do have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access 
>>> so I can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon 
>>> as I finish the series.
>>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
>>> it’s over.
>>> 
>>> Life is great without cable.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
 product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
 said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
 and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
 
 I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
 (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered 
 her an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just 
 fine without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
 
 I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
 morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
 Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
 some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
 the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared 
 for…
 
 John
 
 
 
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I have a TiVo app on my iPad. I can download the programs to my iPad and watch 
them. I can also stream to my iPad, even if I am away from my home network but 
you need high speed on both ends and even then it’s twitchy.

I have an app on my Mac called cTivo which will transfer the program from the 
TiVo to the Mac. On the Mac you can burn the program to a CD if you want to 
save it and I suppose you can watch it on the computer but I’ve never tried to 
do that.

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:59 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> Also, Harry, can you record on the TiVo and then save the recording to a Mac? 
>  
> 
> John
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Alex,
>> 
>> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
>> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
>> the box. 
>> 
>> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than those 
>> with.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
>>> 
>>> Alex Whitman
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>>> 
>>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
 
 Been following this discussion -
 Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
 some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
 point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in 
 the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
 especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
 Thanks,
 Bill M.
 
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
> so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
> check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
> this day.
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>> wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do 
>> have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I 
>> can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I 
>> finish the series.
>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
>> it’s over.
>> 
>> Life is great without cable.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
>>> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
>>> said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
>>> and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>>> 
>>> I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
>>> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her 
>>> an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine 
>>> without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>>> 
>>> I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
>>> morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
>>> Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
>>> some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
>>> the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
 
 Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
 other words, what did I miss.
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

cTiVo isn’t in the app store. Here is a link:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_dscottbuch_cTiVo_releases=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=YJY5Eo9HWcW-GI7kie2e2vRutfdggz98c4A9C3VqL9o=yp1m1strwrR-xLuWpI2AokHeyIdaPlk5d7ltXuGLq-Y=

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:45 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> Awesome Harry, a problem solved…thanks so much.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a TiVo app on my iPad. I can download the programs to my iPad and 
>> watch them. I can also stream to my iPad, even if I am away from my home 
>> network but you need high speed on both ends and even then it’s twitchy.
>> 
>> I have an app on my Mac called cTivo which will transfer the program from 
>> the TiVo to the Mac. On the Mac you can burn the program to a CD if you want 
>> to save it and I suppose you can watch it on the computer but I’ve never 
>> tried to do that.
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:59 AM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, Harry, can you record on the TiVo and then save the recording to a 
>>> Mac?  
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
 
 Alex,
 
 I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
 Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
 the box. 
 
 TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than 
 those with.
 
 Harry
 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
> 
> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
> 
> Alex Whitman
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  
> wrote:
> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for 
> me but then I’m slow. (win.net)
> 
> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>> 
>> Been following this discussion -
>> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
>> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
>> point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value 
>> in the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about 
>> them, especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
>> Thanks,
>> Bill M.
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
>>> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
>>> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something 
>>> wrong so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and 
>>> had to check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to 
>>> believe in this day.
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>>> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
 Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
 only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
 Thanks
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
 wrote:
 John,
 
 We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I 
 do have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access 
 so I can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon 
 as I finish the series.
 when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
 it’s over.
 
 Life is great without cable.
 
 Harry
 
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
> said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
> and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
> 
> I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered 
> her an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by 
> just fine without 

[MacGroup] 32-bit apps to not be supported

[Pen Helm]

I read that Apple is going to phase out support for 32-bit apps.

To find out what apps you have are 32-bit: choose Apple menu > About this Mac;
click System Report; on the left, find Software and under that click 
Applications; and observe under "64-bit Intel" which ones say "no."


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…and then what to do?

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Pen Helm  wrote:
> 
> I read that Apple is going to phase out support for 32-bit apps.
> 
> To find out what apps you have are 32-bit: choose Apple menu > About this Mac;
> click System Report; on the left, find Software and under that click 
> Applications; and observe under "64-bit Intel" which ones say "no."
> 
> 
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[John Robinson]

Also, Harry, can you record on the TiVo and then save the recording to a Mac?  

John

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
> the box. 
> 
> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than those 
> with.
> 
> Harry
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
>> 
>> Alex Whitman
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>> 
>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been following this discussion -
>>> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
>>> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this point) 
>>> is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in the 
>>> Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
>>> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill M.
>>> 
 On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
 channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
 program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
 so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
 check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
 this day.
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
 YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are only 
> 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
> Thanks
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
> wrote:
> John,
> 
> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do 
> have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I 
> can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I 
> finish the series.
> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
> it’s over.
> 
> Life is great without cable.
> 
> Harry
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
>> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she said 
>> today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait and all 
>> were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>> 
>> I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
>> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her 
>> an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine 
>> without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>> 
>> I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
>> morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
>> Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
>> some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
>> the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
>>> other words, what did I miss.
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
 head to Apple, grief, this is nuts.  By the time the store opens the 
 line has grown considerably behind me.  An employee comes out to start 
 taking names.
 
 Apple is still a tech wonder.
 
 John
 
 
 
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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Yes, I have a powered hub in the basement where the cable from the antenna 
goes. Then I feed the cable from the hub to the different TiVos.

All three are fed at the same time.

On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:54 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Harry,
> 
> One Coax from the antenna, then feeding three TiVo boxes, I guess you have a 
> hub?  If so, are all three fed at the same time or do you have to change 
> which TiVo box gets the feed?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Alex,
>> 
>> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
>> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
>> the box. 
>> 
>> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than those 
>> with.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
>>> 
>>> Alex Whitman
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
>>> I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for me 
>>> but then I’m slow. (win.net)
>>> 
>>> IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
 
 Been following this discussion -
 Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
 some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
 point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in 
 the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
 especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
 Thanks,
 Bill M.
 
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something wrong 
> so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and had to 
> check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to believe in 
> this day.
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>> wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I do 
>> have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access so I 
>> can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon as I 
>> finish the series.
>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
>> it’s over.
>> 
>> Life is great without cable.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
>>> product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
>>> said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
>>> and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
>>> 
>>> I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
>>> (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered her 
>>> an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just fine 
>>> without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
>>> 
>>> I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
>>> morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
>>> Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
>>> some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
>>> the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared for…
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
 
 Not keeping up with Apple’s latest, what were you all lineup for. In 
 other words, what did I miss.
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> 9:45, no lights in Mall, stores still closed, turned the corner to 
> head to Apple, grief, this is 

Re: [MacGroup] The Wagon Still Rolls

[John Robinson]

THANKS, now what about recording on your boxes and saving the recording to your 
Mac?  I have various interviews I would like to save but with the Spectrum 
boxes I can’t move the recording to a Mac...

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have a powered hub in the basement where the cable from the antenna 
> goes. Then I feed the cable from the hub to the different TiVos.
> 
> All three are fed at the same time.
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:54 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> One Coax from the antenna, then feeding three TiVo boxes, I guess you have a 
>> hub?  If so, are all three fed at the same time or do you have to change 
>> which TiVo box gets the feed?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex,
>>> 
>>> I have a digital antenna on the roof and connect it to three TiVo boxes. 
>>> Works well. Although you might need a signal enhancer between the coax and 
>>> the box. 
>>> 
>>> TiVo boxes without cable connectivity are a little less expensive than 
>>> those with.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Alex Whitman  wrote:
 
 Harry, how do you use Tivo without cable? 
 
 Alex Whitman
 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
 I use win.net (aye.net). DSL (through AT’s lines) it’s plenty fast for 
 me but then I’m slow. (win.net)
 
 IgLou is still around. They talk about High Speed Internet (igloo.com
 
 Anne
 
 
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:08 PM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> Been following this discussion -
> Ready to cut the AT UVerse cord and just use Apple TV, HD antenna, and 
> some kind of a HD digital recorder. My question (one of many at this 
> point) is - I only need a internet provider now, what is my best value in 
> the Louisville area? Used to have IgLou and loved everything about them, 
> especially the fact that they are local. What do you all say?
> Thanks,
> Bill M.
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> tried youtube tv but there is no way to get closed captions on all 
>> channels that its available on. you have to click on each individual 
>> program and CC for that program only. Thought I was doing something 
>> wrong so got on live chat. The chat guy couldnt believe it either and 
>> had to check. Came back and said unfortunately I was right. Hard to 
>> believe in this day.
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Sandy Price  wrote:
>> YouTube TV. It's awesome. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone know of servicethat streams local channels over the internet? 
>>> Where I live a roof antenna will pick up no local channels. Theu are 
>>> only 50 miles away buy high hills in the way. 
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> We have never had cable - only an antenna on the roof of our house. I 
>>> do have TIVO and Netflix and Amazon Prime. I also have CBS All Access 
>>> so I can watch Star Trek Discovery. I am going to cancel that as soon 
>>> as I finish the series.
>>> when Game of Thrones is streaming I order HBO Now and cancel that when 
>>> it’s over.
>>> 
>>> Life is great without cable.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:05 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Anne, you missed nothing, none of the folks in line were for a new 
 product, I was there because my daughter cut her Cable service, she 
 said today when she returned the boxes the line was a 30 minute wait 
 and all were doing the same, cutting the cable.
 
 I was there to pick up an Apple TV, 4K, I’ll give her the last model 
 (1080) so she can still watch the programming she wants.  I ordered 
 her an antenna so I’ll hook both up for her and she should get by just 
 fine without paying Spectrum their exorbitant fees.
 
 I was surprised that Apple had so many customers that early in the 
 morning…I mean there wasn’t another person waiting at Best Buy, 
 Microsoft, Dick’s, Macy’s, etc etc….only Apple, some were for a class, 
 some were for purchases, some for repairs…it’s a well oiled company as 
 the folks were soon dispersed and employees were getting them cared 
 for…
 
 John
 
 
 
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Anne Cartwright