Re: Yet another Mac OSX and DBI question

2004-10-17 Thread Dave Greenhalgh

On Oct 16, 2004, at 3:22 AM, Dave Greenhalgh wrote:
I checked the archives and didn't find a reference to this particular 
install failure.

ld: can't locate file for: -lbundle1.o
make: *** [blib/arch/auto/DBI/DBI.bundle] Error 1
Check again. There was a thread just two days ago, with a subject of 
Answer to missing /usr/lib/bundle1.o. It's hard to imagine a clearer 
reference to this particular failure.

Two morals to that question. One - a search tends to work better when 
you correctly spell the search string. My Bad. Two - You don't get 
forgiven for typos round here!!

Thanks for pointing out the thread. It looks like it will fix my 
problem.
As I pointed out in the earlier thread - download and install the full 
Xcode 1.5 package from ADC http://connect.apple.com.

One quick question. I am sat in a hotel room a long way from a 
braodband connection. this is a 300 M download. That's a lot on a dial 
up at hotel phone rates. Is there a less financially crippling way of 
just getting the essential files, or do I need the full update to 
XCode?

Dave


[OT] Black Screen of Death

2004-10-17 Thread Bill Stephenson
Sometimes, usually when I get to my desk in the morning, my mac has a 
black screen with scrolling white text (that I've yet to actually 
read). No way to stop it that I know of short of unplugging the 
computer and starting back up.

Anyone else experiencing this?
PowerMac, G4 1.25, Mirrored Doors, OS X 10.3.5, 768 megs ram.
Kindest Regards,
Bill Stephenson
417-546-5593


Re: [OT] Black Screen of Death

2004-10-17 Thread Bill Stephenson
On Oct 17, 2004, at 8:59 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 17/10/2004 @ 13:57 +0100, Bill Stephenson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
wrote:

Sometimes, usually when I get to my desk in the morning, my mac has a
black screen with scrolling white text (that I've yet to actually
read). No way to stop it that I know of short of unplugging the
computer and starting back up.
That sounds, almost certainly, like a kernel panic. Run Disk 
Utility/Disk Warrior first of all but in my only experience of KPs 
mine was caused by a defective mouse so you'll need to note the text 
on screen to diagnose what's causing it.

Regards,
Phil.

Thanks for tip Phil.
I was hoping that the error might be found in one of the Console logs. 
It's difficult to read the text that's scrolling on the screen because 
it's moving so darn fast, my old eyes aren't very good anymore, and I 
tend to get those pesky Optic Migraines when I stare at anything that 
strobes or has significant glare, and of course, David points out the 
other obvious reason below

On Oct 17, 2004, at 8:09 AM, David Cantrell wrote:
Did you not consider for one moment that perhaps that text might help 
you to solve whatever's going on, before wasting our time?  Idiot.
Of course I did.
Geez, if I only had the omnipotent David Cantrel looking over my 
shoulder he could solve this in a nanosecond. I'm sure he scored 
incredibly high on his Evelyn Wood courses and even Albert Einstien 
would blush in his grave if he knew of his magnificent intelligence.

I apologize for wasting your time David. Here's a tip for you, make a 
Rule in your Mail.app that moves messages from me into your Trash 
or Junk directories.

Kindest Regards,
Bill


Re: [OT] Black Screen of Death

2004-10-17 Thread Joel Rees
I was hoping that the error might be found in one of the Console logs.
It ought to be in one of the logs, yes. Sorry that I don't remember 
which. Check in

/var/logs
List by time, so you can tell which files were written most recently:
ls -latT
(IIRC. might want to man ls if that set of options doesn't work.) Some 
of the files are binary, but I'm pretty sure the most important ones 
are text. Oh, and run this command first:

last
That is not all, but it' all off the top of my head this AM.
 It's difficult to read the text that's scrolling on the screen 
because it's moving so darn fast, my old eyes aren't very good 
anymore, and I tend to get those pesky Optic Migraines when I stare 
at anything that strobes or has significant glare, ...

--
Joel Rees
Getting involved in the neighbor's family squabbles is dangerous.
But if the abusive partner has a habit of shooting through his/her 
roof,
the guy who lives upstairs is in a bit of a catch-22.



Re: Yet another Mac OSX and DBI question

2004-10-17 Thread Joel Rees
One quick question. I am sat in a hotel room a long way from a 
braodband connection. this is a 300 M download. That's a lot on a dial 
up at hotel phone rates. Is there a less financially crippling way of 
just getting the essential files, or do I need the full update to 
XCode?
I've never tried this, but the files have been named. Might be worth a 
try getting them from Apple's  darwin source code, hand compiling them 
and copying them into place. I suspect you won't get the options (like 
dynamic library vs. static or object code, object output format, among 
others) correct the first try. I'd guess dynamic library and somthing 
other than elf, but I'd likely be wrong and incomplete. Anyone else 
have a guess to hazard?

I'm sure you'd want to get the complete package installed once you get 
back where you have broadband.

And maybe one of us should file a bug report or suggestion that Apple 
put up a download of just the relevant files?

--
Joel Rees
It's not the Here's a button, click it! attitude,
It's Bill saying he has to be free to invent our technological 
future.
(But I'm just as glad it's not Steve's company with the 95%, 
either.)