Re: Help Wanted: Testing CamelBones on Intel

2005-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley 

On Oct 26, 2005, at 12:03 AM, Ken Williams wrote:


On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:


On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:


What about if I built a universal binary for y'all to try?


Done. As the announcement mentions, the recent release of ShuX, as  
well as the CamelBones framework itself, are built as universal  
binaries. So, of someone with an Intel Mac would download ShuX and  
give it a click, I'd be most appreciative.


I feel bad seeing this entire thread Warnocked three times, but I'm  
afraid I'm unable to do anything substantive about it - perhaps  
Intel Macs are still so rare out there that nobody on this list  
actually has one.


I figure they *are* pretty rare - $1k for a machine you don't even  
get to keep is setting the barrier pretty darned high. I have heard  
from at least one person privately though, who said he'd give it a  
go. I emailed him about this latest release, but haven't heard the  
results yet.


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Re: Help Wanted: Testing CamelBones on Intel

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Glaesemann 


On Oct 26, 2005, at 13:07 , rob barris wrote:


On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Ken Williams wrote:


On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:

Done. As the announcement mentions, the recent release of ShuX,  
as well as the CamelBones framework itself, are built as  
universal binaries. So, of someone with an Intel Mac would  
download ShuX and give it a click, I'd be most appreciative.





I feel bad seeing this entire thread Warnocked three times, but  
I'm afraid I'm unable to do anything substantive about it -  
perhaps Intel Macs are still so rare out there that nobody on this  
list actually has one.  Maybe try p5p if you haven't already?




we have one (OK, two).  Where do I get the app?





ShuX is very helpful :)

Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com

Re: Help Wanted: Testing CamelBones on Intel

2005-10-25 Thread rob barris 


On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Ken Williams wrote:



On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:



On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:



What about if I built a universal binary for y'all to try?



Done. As the announcement mentions, the recent release of ShuX, as  
well as the CamelBones framework itself, are built as universal  
binaries. So, of someone with an Intel Mac would download ShuX and  
give it a click, I'd be most appreciative.




I feel bad seeing this entire thread Warnocked three times, but I'm  
afraid I'm unable to do anything substantive about it - perhaps  
Intel Macs are still so rare out there that nobody on this list  
actually has one.  Maybe try p5p if you haven't already?


we have one (OK, two).  Where do I get the app?
Rob

Re: Help Wanted: Testing CamelBones on Intel

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Williams 


On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:


On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:


What about if I built a universal binary for y'all to try?


Done. As the announcement mentions, the recent release of ShuX, as 
well as the CamelBones framework itself, are built as universal 
binaries. So, of someone with an Intel Mac would download ShuX and 
give it a click, I'd be most appreciative.


I feel bad seeing this entire thread Warnocked three times, but I'm 
afraid I'm unable to do anything substantive about it - perhaps Intel 
Macs are still so rare out there that nobody on this list actually has 
one.  Maybe try p5p if you haven't already?


 -Ken

Re: How to find out if an application is running

2005-10-25 Thread James Reynolds 

Sorry...

It killed everything running as me.  I was dumb enough to try it on 
my main computer.


James

At 6:16 PM -0500 10/25/05, Joseph Alotta wrote:

why not?

On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:13 PM, James Reynolds wrote:


At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:


I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch.  Now IsRunning() returns the PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).

Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which should
relaunch immediately):

   use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
   use Mac::Processes;
   use POSIX 'SIGTERM';

   my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
   kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);



Don't try that with Launch 1.91!

--

Thanks,

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University of Utah
Student Computing Labs
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801-585-9811

Re: How to find out if an application is running

2005-10-25 Thread Joseph Alotta 

why not?

On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:13 PM, James Reynolds wrote:


At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:

I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch.  Now IsRunning() returns the  
PSN, instead

of simple true/false (1/0).

Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which  
should

relaunch immediately):

   use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
   use Mac::Processes;
   use POSIX 'SIGTERM';

   my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
   kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);



Don't try that with Launch 1.91!

--

Thanks,

James Reynolds
University of Utah
Student Computing Labs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
801-585-9811

Re: How to find out if an application is running

2005-10-25 Thread James Reynolds 

At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:

I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch.  Now IsRunning() returns the PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).

Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which should
relaunch immediately):

   use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
   use Mac::Processes;
   use POSIX 'SIGTERM';

   my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
   kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);


Don't try that with Launch 1.91!

--

Thanks,

James Reynolds
University of Utah
Student Computing Labs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
801-585-9811

Re: ANN: CamelBones 1.0.0-beta4, ShuX 3.0-beta3

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Glaesemann 


On Oct 26, 2005, at 4:34 , John Delacour wrote:


At 1:49 pm -0400 25/10/05, Sherm Pendley wrote:


ShuX is a graphical POD (Plain Old Documentation) reader for Mac  
OS X.




Thank you for the new ShuX, Sherm.  There's certainly a world of  
difference between this and a the very early version I last tried.


Hear, hear! I've been (im)patiently hoping you'd find time to be able  
to update and release a new version. Thanks, Sherm! Looks great!


Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com

Re: ANN: CamelBones 1.0.0-beta4, ShuX 3.0-beta3

2005-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley 

On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Lola Lee wrote:


Sherm Pendley wrote:

These new releases bring experimental Intel compatibility to both  
the  CamelBones framework and ShuX. In addition, there have been a  
few  minor bug fixes and additions to CamelBones - see the  
included  release notes for details.


Downloaded both packages and installed these.  ShuX doesn't open  
for me.


Sorry, but "it doesn't open" is too vague a description for me to  
offer any concrete help. I need to know more about your system and  
the Perl you're trying to run ShuX with.


For instance: Are you using an Intel-based Mac? Have you modified the  
system-supplied Perl in any way? (Installing extra modules doesn't  
count.) Are you trying to get ShuX to use a custom installed Perl?


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Re: ANN: CamelBones 1.0.0-beta4, ShuX 3.0-beta3

2005-10-25 Thread Lola Lee 

Sherm Pendley wrote:
These new releases bring experimental Intel compatibility to both the  
CamelBones framework and ShuX. In addition, there have been a few  minor 
bug fixes and additions to CamelBones - see the included  release notes 
for details.


Downloaded both packages and installed these.  ShuX doesn't open for me.


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Re: ANN: CamelBones 1.0.0-beta4, ShuX 3.0-beta3

2005-10-25 Thread John Delacour 

At 1:49 pm -0400 25/10/05, Sherm Pendley wrote:


ShuX is a graphical POD (Plain Old Documentation) reader for Mac OS X.


Thank you for the new ShuX, Sherm.  There's certainly a world of 
difference between this and a the very early version I last tried.


The window positions, so far as I can make out, follow an arbitrarily 
set rule and this does not respond to any user changes.  I would like 
a) to be able to set the preferred size for new windows and b) to 
have all windows open in the same position, with cascading only if 
more than one window is open.  I hope you can supply prefs for such 
things in due course.


JD

Re: Help Wanted: Testing CamelBones on Intel

2005-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley 

On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:


What about if I built a universal binary for y'all to try?


Done. As the announcement mentions, the recent release of ShuX, as  
well as the CamelBones framework itself, are built as universal  
binaries. So, of someone with an Intel Mac would download ShuX and  
give it a click, I'd be most appreciative.


Thanks!

sherm--

Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org

ANN: CamelBones 1.0.0-beta4, ShuX 3.0-beta3

2005-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley 
These new releases bring experimental Intel compatibility to both the  
CamelBones framework and ShuX. In addition, there have been a few  
minor bug fixes and additions to CamelBones - see the included  
release notes for details.


What is CamelBones?

CamelBones is a Cocoa/Perl bridge for Mac OS X. It allows you to  
write Cocoa apps in Perl, and also to access Perl classes from  
Objective-C. Partial support for GNUStep is also included.


What is ShuX?

ShuX is a graphical POD (Plain Old Documentation) reader for Mac OS X.

sherm--

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