speaking of shells...
Speaking of commandline utilities for traditionally GUI things... I've been wanting to create a commandline interface to airport for a while. Something that gives access to the same functionality as that airport icon in the apple bar-- in particular the ability to turn airport on and off (for login and logout init scripts). I was wondering first if something like this is already out there? And second what process would I be sending appleevents to, i.e. what to I need to make a glue for? Or does the utility that controls such things not accept appleevents, if so is there another way to communicate with it? live well, ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Using on non-filehandles
--- Thilo Planz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, in that case you probably know what you are
doing.
Sometimes I like to think so ;) Yeah, If I'm looking
for how to do X the first place I look is usually
CPAN; If I know how to do it I'll sometimes still look
on CPAN. One of the things that's kept me from using
modules on CPAN is that until recently I've had a poor
grasp on OOP in Perl, and many OO modules are... ill
defined unless you're quite fammiliar with the jargon.
I'll take a look at Template-Toolkit to see if it
meets my needs. Right now the two biggest features I'm
looking for are (1) accepting functions for values
(i.e. accepting the return of get() as a valid thing
to interpolate); this way the actual variables etc are
hidden behind a black box in case I want to change
them, and (2) being able to parse a single file into
multiple sections (header, footer, etc) so that I can
do something akin to print header; for(){print
entry} print footer; as well as other combinations.
The module I've got so far takes text, and splits it
based on Begin/EndSection metalanguage and when
interpolating it runs eval on anything between
Begin/EndPerl metalanguage; so far this works well
enough.
cheers,
~wren
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Re: Using on non-filehandles
--- Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While that's an admirable goal, allow me to challenge that on a few points. will take a look at Template-Toolkit/ Does it change matters if I point out that I'm not intending to publish the module, but rather just use it for personal convenience? (There are a few programs I'm going to write to generate different parts of my website from databases, and they'll all be basically the same xml2html interface. I'm not sure if I brought this up in a previous mail or not.) But yes, there definately is feature creep. That's actually one of the reasons I'm flat out scratching the old version of the program (which was much ammended) and rewriting it from scratch with a new approach. One part of this new approach is making it so that all the calls for data run through the black box get(); that way, if I decide to use a different XML module, or decide to rearrange variables, or rename them, or whatever, that doesn't affect the templates at all, and doesn't affect many parts of the program outside of that subroutine. cheers, ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Simple cross-platform XML?
I'm working on a script that takes a database and a template and from them generates a bunch of HTML. The pages don't need changing frequently (once every 4-6 months) and so the program is not actually a CGI. Long story short, The script, database, and template all have to be 100% cross-platformable and setting up the script so it works needs to take a minimum of effort. (The files and their maintenence will be handed off every 0.5-4 years, so anticipating the future it needs to be easily grokked by non-geeks.) This makes either tab/return-delimited or XML the databases of choice (so far as I see it). The former has limitations insofar as long entries or very many entries. Unfortunately, setting up expat and the other backing for standard XML modules is complicated to me, let alone someone who doesn't know computers. Is there an XML module I've missed? Or some way I can fake using XML in a modular enough way that I can swap in real XML code in the future? ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: Simple cross-platform XML?
--- Rich Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to look at YAML (http://www.yaml.org). Also, there are pure-perl XML parsers, if you don't need a lot of speed. Cool thanks. I'll check it out. As long as speed scales linearly (or close enough for a couple thousand fields) it shouldn't be too much of a problem. ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [OT] OSX privileges question
--- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the typical reasons people turn to DBMSs. PostGreSQL would likely be overkill, but MySQL or perhaps even Apple's own FM might help. (I'm pretty sure FM allows storing documents, but I've never done it myself.) I might look into it. Sounds like a pretty big change, which I'm not sure will go over so well. It'd prolly also take some time to set up which is difficult to get since we're running 24/7. I think I might end up just setting all folders to r-x excepting the ones which directly contain files which I'll leave rwx. Not as tight a straitjacket as I was hoping, but it'll have to do. FileMaker Pro should never be used in the way you I think you are describing. What you need to do there is run the [...] Or, at least, that's what I've heard on the 'Filemaker Experts' [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. You might want to sign on there for a while. Thanks for the advice. I'll have to check it out. There're a few other things I'd like to muck around with in FMP too. ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [OT] OSX privileges question
--- Rich Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's back up a bit. Explain, in more abstract terms, what you're trying to accomplish. That may allow enough wiggle room to allow a Unixish solution. In short, I'm trying to make information within files accessable and modifiable, but keep the organization of the files unalterable. On the old computer we had some serious problems with people saving files in the wrong places, moving things around because they didn't like where they were (then other people either moving them back or creating a copy), making copies of files but only updating one of those copies (or worse making some uptades to one copy, others to another), etc. It's my job to prevent this from happening to the new computer. Even though I'll be cleaning the system out once a week or so, it'd be nice to set up some preemptive measures. The dispatchers obviously need to be able to read the files; often they'll need to update them. It'd be nice to prevent creating new files in unsanctioned places and prevent dispatchers from reorganizing the folders/files willie-nillie. Does that help give you a better idea of my goals? --- Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shouldn't prohibit them from making changes, unless the editing tools they're using are trying to overwrite the entire file (or create a temporary file then replace the original) rather than just modifying it. That may very well be the problem. I'll have to investigate it further. The primary tools they use are MS Office and FileMaker Pro (though this might change with the migration to OSX) --- James Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the file? Perhaps there is a workaround. [...] Also, have you considered aliases or symlinks? There are a bunch of files; predominately Word, Excel, and FMP files. I hadn't considered aliases. Might be able to do that... --- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sure isn't the way I understand it. I'll check when I get a chance whether that's the effect on Mac OS X. Are you trying to use the GUI File Info interface from Finder, instead of chmod/chown, perhaps? Nope, I'm using chmod/chown. The GUI interface hides access to the executable value so I hadn't bothered with it. ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
[OT] OSX privileges question
So I've been put in charge of setting up and maintaining our department's new dispatch/switchboard computer. In trying to keep it clean and in order, I was hoping, if possible, to be able to give users read/write access to information in files themselves, but to block them from renaming the files or moving them. I tried giving r-x access to a folder and rwx access to the file inside. This lets them open the file and prohibits them from moving/renaming it, but prohibits them from saving any changes (because they can't write to the folder). Is this an impossible feat I'm hoping for? If not, then how could I go about it? ~wren __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
