Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Joel Rees
On 2004.7.15, at 06:43 AM, Brian Dimeler wrote:
Hi, I was having trouble installing LWP on the version of Perl that 
came with our office iMac (running OS X 10.3.4) and therefore I 
reinstalled Perl as per the suggestion of CPAN, using the guide at 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/opensource/perl.html .
my, oh, my.
Would someone else take a look at that page and tell me whether they 
agree with me that it looks like some summer intern at Apple has kind 
of laid a little land mine in there, maybe thinking he was bringing the 
page up to date with Panther?

...



Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jul 15, 2004, at 9:14 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
Would someone else take a look at that page and tell me whether they 
agree with me that it looks like some summer intern at Apple has kind 
of laid a little land mine in there, maybe thinking he was bringing 
the page up to date with Panther?
Absolutely. I wish Apple would take that page down - it was broken even 
for Jaguar.

The latest Perl (5.8.4) comes with a readme.macosx file. Please, read 
and follow those instructions. Apple's instructions may be of interest 
to historians, but they have no relevance to the current Mac OS X.

sherm--


Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Joel Rees
 Would someone else take a look at that page and tell me whether they 
 agree with me that it looks like some summer intern at Apple has kind 
 of laid a little land mine in there, maybe thinking he was bringing 
 the page up to date with Panther?

 Absolutely. I wish Apple would take that page down - it was broken 
 even for Jaguar.

What I'm wondering about is this:

---
A quick trip to Jaguar’s Terminal showed me that this version didn’t 
make it into the default install:

 [cpu:~] user% perl -v
 This is perl, v5.8.1-RC3 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level
---

I'm supposed to believe that little exchange was on a default Jaguar 
install?

 The latest Perl (5.8.4) comes with a readme.macosx file. Please, read 
 and follow those instructions. Apple's instructions may be of interest 
 to historians, but they have no relevance to the current Mac OS X.

I note the original was contributed. Maybe it's time to contribute a 
new one. I wonder if I kept any notes when I did the parallel install 
of 5.8.4 on this Jaguar box.

--
Joel Rees
 Opinions are like armpits.
 We all have two, and they all smell,
 but we really don't want the other guy to get rid of his.

Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jul 15, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
I note the original was contributed. Maybe it's time to contribute a 
new one.
I did. It's titled readme.macosx, and it's part of the standard Perl 
distribution now. ;-)

sherm--


Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jul 15, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
I'm supposed to believe that little exchange was on a default Jaguar 
install?
Meh. Looks to me like the update is living up to the quality 
standard set by the original.

Apple, just shoot that page like a lame horse. Put it out of our misery.
sherm--


Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-15 Thread Robin
On 15 Jul 2004, at 06:43, Brian Dimeler wrote:
 I can't install --anything-- with CPAN. Any time it gets to the 
Writing makefile for whatever.. step I get a -- NOT OK,
oddly enough I had the same problem with a just-out-of-the-box iBook 
trying to install Net::FTP with CPAN.

I ended up cd-ing to the CPAN directory and doing a manual make there 
(make; make test; make install).

Specs:
OSX Mac OS X 10.3.4 (7H63)
perl, v5.8.1-RC3 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level
Robin


CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-14 Thread Brian Dimeler
Hi, I was having trouble installing LWP on the version of Perl that came 
with our office iMac (running OS X 10.3.4) and therefore I reinstalled 
Perl as per the suggestion of CPAN, using the guide at 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/opensource/perl.html .  Since doing 
so, not only can't I install LWP, I can't install --anything-- with 
CPAN. Any time it gets to the Writing makefile for whatever.. step I 
get a -- NOT OK, followed by the predictable failure of the make and 
make install steps. Perl itself had installed fine (I used the the 
Mac-preferred directories for installation), and I had installed the 
XCode Developer Tools before it. As far as I know there's nothing 
unusual about my configuration, and I don't believe Perl had even been 
used before I attempted this stuff.  Somebody else has GOT to have 
encountered this problem before...



Re: CPAN can't write makefiles after perl 5.8.1 reinstall on 10.3.4

2004-07-14 Thread Brian Dimeler
I installed 5.8.1 over the previous version... which I believe was also 
5.8.1, but I was given to understand (by CPAN, when it first told me it 
couldn't install LWP), that this was a 'precompiled' version and that I 
might have better luck downloading and building anew. Sorry I didn't 
have some output in the first message, my mail program is across the 
room on another computer ;) Here's what perl -V has to say:

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 1) configuration:
Platform:
osname=darwin, osvers=7.4.0, archname=darwin-2level
uname='darwin feaart.local 7.4.0 darwin kernel version 7.4.0: wed may 12 
16:58:24 pdt 2004; root:xnuxnu-517.7.7.obj~7release_ppc power macintosh 
powerpc '
config_args='-de -Dprefix=/usr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
hint=previous, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef 
usemultiplicity=undef
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
Compiler:
cc='cc', ccflags ='-pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp-precomp 
-fno-strict-aliasing',
optimize='-Os',
cppflags='-no-cpp-precomp -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN 
-no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN 
-no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN 
-no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing'
ccversion='', gccversion='3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 
1495)', gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=4321
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=8
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', 
lseeksize=8
alignbytes=8, prototype=define
Linker and Libraries:
ld='MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3 cc', ldflags =''
libpth=/usr/lib
libs=-ldbm -ldl -lm -lc
perllibs=-ldl -lm -lc
libc=/usr/lib/libc.dylib, so=dylib, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
gnulibc_version=''
Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dyld.xs, dlext=bundle, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags=' -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup'

Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
Built under darwin
Compiled at Jul 14 2004 16:09:00
@INC:
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-2level
/System/Library/Perl/5.8.1
/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-2level
/Library/Perl/5.8.1
/Library/Perl
/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-2level
/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.1
/Network/Library/Perl
The Ghost wrote:
Did you install over the previous perl version?  Did you install 5.8.4 
or 5.8.1?  What's the output of perl -V?
On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:43 PM, Brian Dimeler wrote:

Hi, I was having trouble installing LWP on the version of Perl that 
came with our office iMac (running OS X 10.3.4) and therefore I 
reinstalled Perl as per the suggestion of CPAN, using the guide at 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/opensource/perl.html .  Since 
doing so, not only can't I install LWP, I can't install --anything-- 
with CPAN. Any time it gets to the Writing makefile for whatever.. 
step I get a -- NOT OK, followed by the predictable failure of the 
make and make install steps. Perl itself had installed fine (I used 
the the Mac-preferred directories for installation), and I had 
installed the XCode Developer Tools before it. As far as I know 
there's nothing unusual about my configuration, and I don't believe 
Perl had even been used before I attempted this stuff.  Somebody else 
has GOT to have encountered this problem before...