Re: How to find out if an application is running
At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:
I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch. Now IsRunning() returns the PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).
Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which should
relaunch immediately):
use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
use Mac::Processes;
use POSIX 'SIGTERM';
my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);
Don't try that with Launch 1.91!
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Re: How to find out if an application is running
why not?
On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:13 PM, James Reynolds wrote:
At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:
I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch. Now IsRunning() returns the
PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).
Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which
should
relaunch immediately):
use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
use Mac::Processes;
use POSIX 'SIGTERM';
my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);
Don't try that with Launch 1.91!
--
Thanks,
James Reynolds
University of Utah
Student Computing Labs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
801-585-9811
Re: How to find out if an application is running
Sorry...
It killed everything running as me. I was dumb enough to try it on
my main computer.
James
At 6:16 PM -0500 10/25/05, Joseph Alotta wrote:
why not?
On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:13 PM, James Reynolds wrote:
At 1:22 PM -0700 10/14/05, Chris Nandor wrote:
I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch. Now IsRunning() returns the PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).
Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which should
relaunch immediately):
use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
use Mac::Processes;
use POSIX 'SIGTERM';
my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);
Don't try that with Launch 1.91!
--
Thanks,
James Reynolds
University of Utah
Student Computing Labs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
801-585-9811
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On 2005–10–13, at 19:36, Ted Zeng wrote: As it turns out, only Sherm's version works For all the situations. Great! Go for it. The tough bit about there being more than one way to do it is to resist the temptation to try them all, even after you've found one that works. I can't always resist the temptation... -- Dominic Dunlop
Re: How to find out if an application is running
At 20:02 -0700 13/10/05, Ted Zeng wrote: Here is the fun part: I made a killapp.pl script and Call it to kill Bridge with `killapp.pl Bridge ` And it kills itself. As it turned out, the script finds itself from the list because the Command line includes Bridge(or Adobe Illustrator for Illustrator). The standard trick for this, if the search is a regular expression, is to surround one of the letters with [], ie: killapp.pl '[B]ridge' It works. But somebody probably laughs at it. It's hardly the first time, indeed the general find this application of ps auxw | grep inevitably finds the search command unless you use a trick like the above, or: ps auxw | grep | grep -v grep Enjoy, Peter. -- http://www.stairways.com/ http://download.stairways.com/
Re: How to find out if an application is running
I like these solution. Thanks. ted On 10/13/05 10:59 PM, Peter N Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 20:02 -0700 13/10/05, Ted Zeng wrote: Here is the fun part: I made a killapp.pl script and Call it to kill Bridge with `killapp.pl Bridge ` And it kills itself. As it turned out, the script finds itself from the list because the Command line includes Bridge(or Adobe Illustrator for Illustrator). The standard trick for this, if the search is a regular expression, is to surround one of the letters with [], ie: killapp.pl '[B]ridge' It works. But somebody probably laughs at it. It's hardly the first time, indeed the general find this application of ps auxw | grep inevitably finds the search command unless you use a trick like the above, or: ps auxw | grep | grep -v grep Enjoy, Peter.
Re: How to find out if an application is running
I just uploaded Mac::Apps::Launch. Now IsRunning() returns the PSN, instead
of simple true/false (1/0).
Here's a fun, simple, and efficient script to kill the Dock (which should
relaunch immediately):
use Mac::Apps::Launch 1.92;
use Mac::Processes;
use POSIX 'SIGTERM';
my $psn = IsRunning('com.apple.dock');
kill SIGTERM, GetProcessPID($psn);
--
Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/
Open Source Technology Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ostg.com/
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On 2005–10–12, at 23:37, Ted Zeng wrote: I would like to find out if an application like Illustrator is running On OS X or not from a perl script. How can I do it? ps doesn't list the processes like Illustrator. A late arrival which hasn't been mentioned so far: $ killall -0 Illustrator 2/dev/null echo Illustrator is running Broadly, killall sends a signal to any process with a name matching its final command-line parameter. (See the man page for chapter and verse.) Here we're sending signal zero instead of the default SIGKILL. Signal zero isn't really a signal at all: it acts as a could I send a signal if I wanted to? query. If a signal could be sent -- that is, if Illustrator is running -- killall exits with status zero (success), so the next command in the pipeline gets run; otherwise with one (failure), terminating the pipeline. The 2/dev/ null junks killall's diagnostic in the event that Illustrator isn't running. -- Dominic Dunlop
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:51:22AM +0200, Dominic Dunlop wrote: A late arrival which hasn't been mentioned so far: $ killall -0 Illustrator 2/dev/null echo Illustrator is running killall is a Really Bad Idea. While it does indeed do what you intend on OS X, on other commercial Unices like Solaris it really does kill all. That is, it sends your chosen signal to all processes. Not good. So don't get in to the habit of using it. -- David Cantrell | Benevolent Dictator Of The World Eye have a spelling chequer / It came with my pea sea It planely marques four my revue / Miss Steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a quay and type a word / And weight for it to say Weather eye am wrong oar write / It shows me strait a weigh.
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On 2005–10–13, at 12:40, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:51:22AM +0200, Dominic Dunlop wrote:
A late arrival which hasn't been mentioned so far:
$ killall -0 Illustrator 2/dev/null echo Illustrator is running
killall is a Really Bad Idea. While it does indeed do what you intend
on OS X, on other commercial Unices like Solaris it really does kill
all. That is, it sends your chosen signal to all processes. Not
good.
So don't get in to the habit of using it.
Aw, cut me some slack. This was specifically a Mac OS X query
(Illustrator not being available on Solaris); the Solaris command
only does its dangerous stuff for root (according to the man page --
I don't have access to a Sun box); and Sun puts it in a place that
shouldn't be on a normal user's PATH. Plus killall, BSD-style, is a
neat command. Works on Linux too. But anyway. Here's Yet Another Way
To Do It:
#!/usr/bin/perl -wl
use Proc::ProcessTable;
my $t = new Proc::ProcessTable;
for (@{$t-table}) {
if ($_-cmndline =~ m%/Mail.app/%) { # *** Your app name here ***
print $_-pid;
last;
}
}
Proc::ProcessTable is available from CPAN, and builds and runs
without problem on Mac OS X. It also works in a lot of other
environments (including Windows) (and Solaris).
Sadly, this approach no good for use from an optionally installed
package, as you can't rely on the module being present. (Unless you
were to include it as part of the bundle and tell perl how to find
it, which would probably be more trouble than it's worth.)
--
Dominic Dunlop
Re: How to find out if an application is running
As it turns out, only Sherm's version works
For all the situations.
Here is what I did:
I clicked the menu File:New and Illustrator presents
An New document dialog.
Now, I go to execute the commands to kill it.
The AppleScript version could not kill it.
kill does kill it.(Sherm's code)
Killall doesn't seem to do anything even in the normal sitution
(I use Adobe Illustrator instead of Illustrator, otherwise it will
complaint there is no matching process)
I haven't tried Chris's version yet.
Ted zeng
On 10/13/05 7:55 AM, Dominic Dunlop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20051013, at 12:40, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:51:22AM +0200, Dominic Dunlop wrote:
A late arrival which hasn't been mentioned so far:
$ killall -0 Illustrator 2/dev/null echo Illustrator is running
killall is a Really Bad Idea. While it does indeed do what you intend
on OS X, on other commercial Unices like Solaris it really does kill
all. That is, it sends your chosen signal to all processes. Not
good.
So don't get in to the habit of using it.
Aw, cut me some slack. This was specifically a Mac OS X query
(Illustrator not being available on Solaris); the Solaris command
only does its dangerous stuff for root (according to the man page --
I don't have access to a Sun box); and Sun puts it in a place that
shouldn't be on a normal user's PATH. Plus killall, BSD-style, is a
neat command. Works on Linux too. But anyway. Here's Yet Another Way
To Do It:
#!/usr/bin/perl -wl
use Proc::ProcessTable;
my $t = new Proc::ProcessTable;
for (@{$t-table}) {
if ($_-cmndline =~ m%/Mail.app/%) { # *** Your app name here ***
print $_-pid;
last;
}
}
Proc::ProcessTable is available from CPAN, and builds and runs
without problem on Mac OS X. It also works in a lot of other
environments (including Windows) (and Solaris).
Sadly, this approach no good for use from an optionally installed
package, as you can't rely on the module being present. (Unless you
were to include it as part of the bundle and tell perl how to find
it, which would probably be more trouble than it's worth.)
Re: How to find out if an application is running
At 01:36 PM 10/13/2005, Ted Zeng wrote: As it turns out, only Sherm's version works For all the situations. Actually, merely for the situation that you didn't tell us you were aiming for. You asked How to find out if an application is running. You didn't ask How do I find out a PID so I can kill a process. -jeff
Re: How to find out if an application is running
You are right. After I got the info. On how to detect the process, I added the codes to kill them. Then I thought they all work. Didn't think what I had asked. Here is the fun part: I made a killapp.pl script and Call it to kill Bridge with `killapp.pl Bridge ` And it kills itself. As it turned out, the script finds itself from the list because the Command line includes Bridge(or Adobe Illustrator for Illustrator). Now, I put the app. Name in two part, `killapp.pl Brid ge` And merge them in the killapp.pl script. It works. But somebody probably laughs at it. Ted zeng On 10/13/05 4:05 PM, Jeff Lowrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:36 PM 10/13/2005, Ted Zeng wrote: As it turns out, only Sherm's version works For all the situations. Actually, merely for the situation that you didn't tell us you were aiming for. You asked How to find out if an application is running. You didn't ask How do I find out a PID so I can kill a process. -jeff
How to find out if an application is running
Hi, I would like to find out if an application like Illustrator is running On OS X or not from a perl script. How can I do it? ps doesn't list the processes like Illustrator. Ted Zeng Adobe Systems
Re: How to find out if an application is running
I'd think with your email address, you should know which process Illustrator runs as, or at least be able to find out... ;-) Use AppleScript, from osascript or from Mac::Glue or etc. You won't find a single, cross platform method for answering this question. Ergo, if you need the same piece of code to run on multiple OSes, you will need to code to detect which platform it's running on, and then DTRT on that platform. -Jeff Lowrey At 05:37 PM 10/12/2005, Ted Zeng wrote: Hi, I would like to find out if an application like Illustrator is running On OS X or not from a perl script. How can I do it? ps doesn't list the processes like Illustrator. Ted Zeng Adobe Systems
Re: How to find out if an application is running
At 2:37 pm -0700 12/10/05, Ted Zeng wrote: I would like to find out if an application like Illustrator is running On OS X or not from a perl script. How can I do it? #!/usr/bin/perl @processes = split /, /, `osascript -e ' tell app system events to name of processes whose visible is true'`; print join $/, @processes ...if you don't mind waiting a little. JD
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: I would like to find out if an application like Illustrator is running On OS X or not from a perl script. How can I do it? ps doesn't list the processes like Illustrator. px x does. ;-) #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; my $ps = (grep /Adobe Illustrator/, split(\n, `ps x`))[0]; my ($pid, $tt, $status, $time, $cmd) = split( , $ps, 5); print EOF; PID = $pid TT = $tt STATUS = $status TIME = $time CMD = $cmd EOF sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Re: How to find out if an application is running
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Zeng) wrote:
ps doesn't list the processes like Illustrator.
Yeah, like Sherm said.
These are the two most common methods that I've used, along with a sort-of
port of JD's AppleScript to Mac::Glue.
#!perl -wl
# simple
print 1 if grep 'Photoshop', `ps auxw`;
# heh
use Mac::Glue ':all';
my $syse = new Mac::Glue 'System Events';
print 1 if $syse-obj(processes = whose(
creator_type = contains = '8BIM' # can't see way to do bundle ID?
))-get;
# my favorite
use Mac::Apps::Launch;
print IsRunning('com.adobe.photoshop');
The latter is almost surely your best solution. No calls to external apps,
is included with Tiger, and doesn't rely on possibly conflicting paths and
app names.
It uses Mac::Processes to loop over running applications, and is probably as
efficient in that regard as the other methods, since they all basically have
to do the same thing too. But that it doesn't have to call out to another
app makes it that much more efficient.
It can also accept a four-char code, in this case, IsRunning('8BIM'), like
the Mac::Glue code does.
For the Mac::Apps::Launch code to work, you need version 1.90; 1.91 is
included in Tiger, so you should be fine if you're using that. Older
versions of the module can still handle the four-char code syntax.
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Re: How to find out if an application is running
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Nandor) wrote:
Oops, typo. This:
print 1 if grep 'Photoshop', `ps auxw`;
should be:
print 1 if grep /Photoshop/, `ps auxw`;
And I forgot to mention -- just because it may be useful -- you can also
convert between PID and PSN. Also in Mac::Processes, there are
GetProcessPID() and GetProcessForPID(). The former converts a PSN to a PID,
and the latter a PID to a PSN.
Much of the Mac:: API can accomodate either if necessary (Mac::Glue can
target by PSN or PID, and a process object from System Events can give you
a PSN or PID), but if you need to convert from one or the other, you can use
this API.
One example I like:
use Mac::Processes;
while (my($psn, $psi) = each %Process) {
kill 15, GetProcessPID($psn) if $psi-processName =~ /Photoshop/i;
}
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Re: How to find out if an application is running
On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: BTW, Apple just reported yesterday that Mac units shipped increased By 48% last quarter. Sound like Mac is gaining market share. Yeah - and AAPL immediately dropped 10%. I'll *never* understand Wall Street. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Re: How to find out if an application is running
On 平成 17/10/13, at 9:06, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: BTW, Apple just reported yesterday that Mac units shipped increased By 48% last quarter. Sound like Mac is gaining market share. Yeah - and AAPL immediately dropped 10%. I'll *never* understand Wall Street. People who make money out of money have strange superstitions. Good news is bad news. (Or, if you want to play with conspiracy theories, ... ) I suspect what's happening is that the expected drop before the shift to intel is not happening. Rather than seeing the steady sales as a confirmation of Mac OS X, they are worried that Steve might decide to keep both CPU lines, messing up their misguided plans to capitalize on the next big monopoly. (My delusions, of course, do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer.) Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitcom, inc. 株式会社デジコム Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800 ** http://www.ddcom.co.jp **
