Re: OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
Hi Joel, What does colocation mean? Joe. On Jun 10, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On 2005.6.11, at 07:58 AM, Mark Wheeler wrote: Sorry if this is off topic, but I need to move a shared account to a dedicated account, but picking a new host provider is a need in a haystack. So I ask, where is a good place to go for a DEDICATED server hosting package? What are your good experiences? Have you considered colocation, or even running the servers yourself? The mac mini alters the economics of both doing it yourself and colocation significantly, for an awfully large number of applications. -- Joel Rees even though much of what I do is not sensible it does make sense if you know why ...
Re: OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
On 11 Jun 2005, at 18:57, Joseph Alotta wrote: Hi Joel, What does colocation mean? Colocation is when you set up a server on your own machine, and then pay an ISP or similar connectivity provider a rental to place your machine on their network, connected to the Internet. Included in this is usually guaranteed 24/7 power and connectivity, security, and occasionally backups. The two biggest providers of these in the UK are Telehouse and TeleCity, both in London's docklands. In these cases you rent a 19 rack cabinet in which you can place as many servers as you want. That really costs big, though.
Re: OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
Just to clarify, On 2005.6.12, at 03:17 AM, Andy Holyer wrote: On 11 Jun 2005, at 18:57, Joseph Alotta wrote: Hi Joel, What does colocation mean? Colocation is when you set up a server on your own machine, and then pay an ISP or similar connectivity provider a rental to place your machine on their network, at their physical location (thus, co-location), connected to the Internet. Included in this is usually guaranteed 24/7 power and connectivity, security, and occasionally backups. And, in many cases, they can do some other aspects of the actual setup and maintenance, for a fee, of course. Installing an OS usually has a set price (when they do that). Just inserting the CD and getting it started while you do the rest remotely, and being on standby in case you need someone to read a message that went to the console instead of to the remote admin's terminal will usually be a bit cheaper. Many places will let you just bring the servers in once you've set them up, others may offer to purchase the servers for you (in which case colocation looks more like dedicated hosting). The two biggest providers of these in the UK are Telehouse and TeleCity, both in London's docklands. In these cases you rent a 19 rack cabinet in which you can place as many servers as you want. That really costs big, though. Some places also rent by the shelf/slot, and the places offering special services for the Mac Mini will rent a partial shelf. That's where this becomes relevant to this thread. A pair of Mac Minis is usually plenty for your average Mom and Pop retail or one man consultant shop (and even a little bit larger than that), and the prices for that are usually better than the cost of dedicated hosting, may even be as good as the better shared hosting. Of course, all of that may require factoring in using an OS other than Mac OS X server, and I don't recommend Mac OS X client or Darwin for servers unless you have the server under your physical control and are willing to do a lot of hand customizing, and know how to nurse a server yourself when necessary. -- Joel Rees even though much of what I do is not sensible it does make sense if you know why ...
OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
Hi, Sorry if this is off topic, but I need to move a shared account to a dedicated account, but picking a new host provider is a need in a haystack. So I ask, where is a good place to go for a DEDICATED server hosting package? What are your good experiences? Thanks, Mark
Re: OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
Thank you all very much. I'll check into all of them. I'm sure I'll find one that is exactly what I am looking for. Mark On Jun 10, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Ian Ragsdale wrote: I've had very good experience with Rackspace. They have incredible customer service, but they have a pretty high price to match. I've also had good luck with Pair.com. Ian On Jun 10, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: Hi, Sorry if this is off topic, but I need to move a shared account to a dedicated account, but picking a new host provider is a need in a haystack. So I ask, where is a good place to go for a DEDICATED server hosting package? What are your good experiences? Thanks, Mark
Re: OT-good DEDICATED hosting service
On 2005.6.11, at 07:58 AM, Mark Wheeler wrote: Sorry if this is off topic, but I need to move a shared account to a dedicated account, but picking a new host provider is a need in a haystack. So I ask, where is a good place to go for a DEDICATED server hosting package? What are your good experiences? Have you considered colocation, or even running the servers yourself? The mac mini alters the economics of both doing it yourself and colocation significantly, for an awfully large number of applications. -- Joel Rees even though much of what I do is not sensible it does make sense if you know why ...
