Re: Whither Developer Tools?

2004-06-10 Thread Adam Wells
At 8:39 AM +1000 6/10/04, John Horner wrote:
A guy in my office just got a new G5 delivered. I asked to borrow 
his Developer Tools CD because I've mislaid mine.

Surprisingly, there's no such thing. New G5s come with two DVDs and 
I couldn't find the Dev Tools anywhere in them. The Help, when I 
searched it, unhelpfully said You may also have a Developer Tools 
CD.

Maybe they're assuming anyone who wants it will sign up and download 
it? Or have I missed something?
You will probably be able to find the installation package in 
/Applications/Installers/ on his system (if he still has the bundle 
install and hasn't wiped it out yet).

adam


Re: Whither Developer Tools?

2004-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
If not, you can always copy if off your collegue's hard drive.
It being the installer package, of course. It installs stuff all 
over the place - apps, documentation, headers, libraries, etc., etc. 
Trying to copy all that stuff manually would be a massive pain.

I'm pretty sure that's what Chris meant, but I figured it was worth 
spelling it out for the sake of the archives. (As if anyone reads 
them...)
I guess if we are going for completeness in the archives, someone 
should mention that, if you re-partition your hard disk and re-install 
from the DVDs, the dev tools/xcode installer will end up in the same 
place again. (Unless you do a custom install and deliberately deselect 
it, that is.) It's on the install DVDs (or CDs) for new machines, it's 
just not there as a separate package.



Whither Developer Tools?

2004-06-09 Thread John Horner
A guy in my office just got a new G5 delivered. I asked to borrow his 
Developer Tools CD because I've mislaid mine.

Surprisingly, there's no such thing. New G5s come with two DVDs and I 
couldn't find the Dev Tools anywhere in them. The Help, when I 
searched it, unhelpfully said You may also have a Developer Tools 
CD.

Maybe they're assuming anyone who wants it will sign up and download 
it? Or have I missed something?

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John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 2110
Senior Developer, ABC Online  http://www.abc.net.au/




Re: Whither Developer Tools?

2004-06-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Jun 9, 2004, at 6:39 PM, John Horner wrote:
Surprisingly, there's no such thing. New G5s come with two DVDs and I 
couldn't find the Dev Tools anywhere in them.
On new machines, it's under /Applications/Installers, if memory serves.
 The Help, when I searched it, unhelpfully said You may also have a 
Developer Tools CD.
If you buy the OS separately - to upgrade an older machine for instance 
- a Dev Tools/Xcode CD is included in the box.

sherm--


Re: Whither Developer Tools?

2004-06-09 Thread John Horner
Thanks everyone,
I guess I should have figured that HDs are so huge these days, 
putting a few hundred megs of optional content is actually easier 
than putting it on a CD.

jh