perltidy and -w flag
I've recently started using TextMaker to edit my Perl scripts after many years of Emacs. On the whole I'm happy, but one thing really bugs me: styling. I've never really used perltidy before--Emacs perl-mode and cperl-mode have done everything I wanted. TextMate, though, uses perltidy internally. I've got my flags pretty well set in ~/.perltidy, but I can't for the life of me figure how to get it to stop putting the '-w' flag on the shebang line. It also seems to occasionally eat my 'use warnings;' when it does it. Any thoughts? Thanks, -- jay -- This email and attachment(s): [ ] blogable; [ x ] ask first; [ ] private and confidential daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.tuaw.com http://www.downloadsquad.com http://www.engatiki.org values of β will give rise to dom!
Re: perltidy and -w flag
Some people like TextMate also. I think it costs $29. www.macromates.com/ Joe. On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: BBedit has a free version called textwrangler. You can download from their site. It is a very good editor. Ted zeng From: Michael Barto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:56 AM To: Jay Savage; macosx@perl.org Subject: Re: perltidy and -w flag I know a lot of people that use Emacs on other Platforms because they have nothing else. But this is on a Mac and you have a lot of good well designed choices: BBedit is the most popular. Try the demo for a month and you will be sold. A student license is $50.00 (http://www.barebones.com/). I use Perl to generate Web pages with Javascript. Besides debugging the Perl code as I write, BBedit has an instantaneous Web page preview of my code which is awesome. You change an entry, it instantaneous updates. There is another soruce editing program called AlphaX (Freeware). It has been around for a long time and is wonderful to do Perl Editing (http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~steffen/Alpha/AlphaX/). It contains extensive Perl code help documentation. There is a great Perl Editor/Debugger called Affrus (http:// www.latenightsw.com/affrus/) which integrates with BBEdit or is standalone. I use it find the really complex issues, since when it steps throught the code it shows me what is going on in memory in a really nice graphical way, etc. Unfortunately it is expensive (around $100.00) In all these editors, they have run at command line drop down, which is where I put my #!/bin/perl -w which is in my program. I have enclode the BBedit one as an example. Since Alpha is basically free right now, Jay Savage wrote: I've recently started using TextMaker to edit my Perl scripts after many years of Emacs. On the whole I'm happy, but one thing really bugs me: styling. I've never really used perltidy before--Emacs perl-mode and cperl-mode have done everything I wanted. TextMate, though, uses perltidy internally. I've got my flags pretty well set in ~/.perltidy, but I can't for the life of me figure how to get it to stop putting the '-w' flag on the shebang line. It also seems to occasionally eat my 'use warnings;' when it does it. Any thoughts? Thanks, -- jay -- This email and attachment(s): [ ] blogable; [ x ] ask first; [ ] private and confidential daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.tuaw.com http://www.downloadsquad.com http:// www.engatiki.org values of â will give rise to dom! -- Michael Barto Software Architect image001.gif LogiQwest Inc. 16458 Bolsa Chica Street, # 15 Huntington Beach, CA 92649 http://www.logiqwest.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 714 377 3705 Fax: 714 840 3937 Cell: 714 883 1949 'tis a gift to be simple This e-mail may contain LogiQwest proprietary information and should be treated as confidential.
Re: perltidy and -w flag
Guys, how is any of this even a tiny bit relevant to the question Jay asked? Jay didn't ask what your favorite editor is, he asked how to configure perltidy to not add -w to his scripts, and leave his use warnings; line alone. I don't know what the answer *is* - I dug through all of the perltidy docs, faqs, and recipe books I could lay hands on, and didn't find any relevant options. But I can say with 99% certainty that switching editors is *not* the answer. Perltidy opens a Perl file, reads and formats it, and prints out the results. It couldn't care less what editor you used to create the original. sherm-- On Oct 5, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Some people like TextMate also. I think it costs $29. www.macromates.com/ Joe. On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: BBedit has a free version called textwrangler. You can download from their site. It is a very good editor. Ted zeng From: Michael Barto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:56 AM To: Jay Savage; macosx@perl.org Subject: Re: perltidy and -w flag I know a lot of people that use Emacs on other Platforms because they have nothing else. But this is on a Mac and you have a lot of good well designed choices: BBedit is the most popular. Try the demo for a month and you will be sold. A student license is $50.00 (http://www.barebones.com/). I use Perl to generate Web pages with Javascript. Besides debugging the Perl code as I write, BBedit has an instantaneous Web page preview of my code which is awesome. You change an entry, it instantaneous updates. There is another soruce editing program called AlphaX (Freeware). It has been around for a long time and is wonderful to do Perl Editing (http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~steffen/Alpha/AlphaX/). It contains extensive Perl code help documentation. There is a great Perl Editor/Debugger called Affrus (http:// www.latenightsw.com/affrus/) which integrates with BBEdit or is standalone. I use it find the really complex issues, since when it steps throught the code it shows me what is going on in memory in a really nice graphical way, etc. Unfortunately it is expensive (around $100.00) In all these editors, they have run at command line drop down, which is where I put my #!/bin/perl -w which is in my program. I have enclode the BBedit one as an example. Since Alpha is basically free right now, Jay Savage wrote: I've recently started using TextMaker to edit my Perl scripts after many years of Emacs. On the whole I'm happy, but one thing really bugs me: styling. I've never really used perltidy before--Emacs perl-mode and cperl-mode have done everything I wanted. TextMate, though, uses perltidy internally. I've got my flags pretty well set in ~/.perltidy, but I can't for the life of me figure how to get it to stop putting the '-w' flag on the shebang line. It also seems to occasionally eat my 'use warnings;' when it does it. Any thoughts? Thanks, -- jay-- This email and attachment(s): [ ] blogable; [ x ] ask first; [ ] private and confidential daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.tuaw.com http://www.downloadsquad.com http:// www.engatiki.org values of â will give rise to dom! -- Michael Barto Software Architect image001.gif LogiQwest Inc. 16458 Bolsa Chica Street, # 15 Huntington Beach, CA 92649 http://www.logiqwest.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 714 377 3705 Fax: 714 840 3937 Cell: 714 883 1949 'tis a gift to be simple This e-mail may contain LogiQwest proprietary information and should be treated as confidential. Web Hosting by West Virginians, for West Virginians: http://wv-www.net Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Re: perltidy and -w flag
On 10/5/06, Joseph Alotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people like TextMate also. I think it costs $29. www.macromates.com/ Joe. The results of a long night coding and not enough coffee...I've meant TextMate all along. Tonight: sleep. --j -- This email and attachment(s): [ ] blogable; [ x ] ask first; [ ] private and confidential daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.tuaw.com http://www.downloadsquad.com http://www.engatiki.org values of β will give rise to dom!
Re: perltidy and -w flag
Jay Savage wrote: I can't for the life of me figure how to get it to stop putting the '-w' flag on the shebang line. It also seems to occasionally eat my 'use warnings;' when it does it. I've just tried to replicate this in TextMate (selecting Tidy via the Perl bundle with a use warnings; line and no -w flag. A naked called to Tidy --that is, I have no .perltidy file-- didn't change anything except the indentation of some loops; do you still get the overriding of warnings if you move your .perltidy aside? Just for the record I have... % perltidy --v This is perltidy, v20060719 [...copyright stuff] Regards, Paul
Re: perltidy and -w flag
On 10/5/06, Paul McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Savage wrote: I can't for the life of me figure how to get it to stop putting the '-w' flag on the shebang line. It also seems to occasionally eat my 'use warnings;' when it does it. I've just tried to replicate this in TextMate (selecting Tidy via the Perl bundle with a use warnings; line and no -w flag. A naked called to Tidy --that is, I have no .perltidy file-- didn't change anything except the indentation of some loops; do you still get the overriding of warnings if you move your .perltidy aside? Just for the record I have... % perltidy --v This is perltidy, v20060719 [...copyright stuff] You beat me to it. I was just getting ready to follow up. As it turns out, it's not perltidy; it's an insidious feature of TextMate. It turns out that TextMate runs its filters on the file being edited--not on the buffer. It then replaces the buffer with the output from the filter. In preparation for overhauling an inherited project, I was opening up copies of some old files, modifying the shebang, adding 'use warnings;' and running perltidy before I started editing in earnest. When the '-w' kept reappearing, I thought it was perltidy being didactic. I turns out, though, that was was really happening was TextMate silently throwing out my unsaved edits before passing the file off to perltidy. Or after it got the file back from perltidy, whichever way you want to look at it. I'm just glad I hadn't made any important changes. The bug report is in the mail. The correct behavior, IMO, would be to filter the buffer. I'd settle, though, for a you're about to clobber your unsaved changes diag. -- jay -- This email and attachment(s): [ ] blogable; [ x ] ask first; [ ] private and confidential daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.tuaw.com http://www.downloadsquad.com http://www.engatiki.org values of β will give rise to dom!
