Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Vincent Habchi wrote:
 Le 25 juil. 2014 à 10:55, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

 In 2008 we had a ConTeXt meeting in Bohinj for example.
 (http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/, here:
 http://www.csod.si/dom/bohinj?language=en). That's not the only option
 though (and maybe not even the best one). Lodging + three meals cost
 26 EUR / day at that exact location (+ 20% for single room).

 It’s clear that it’ll be very difficult to find a room at such a price around 
 the lake of Constance! ;) But is there any international airport at hand? 
 Trieste ? Gorizia ?

Ljubljana Brnik is the closest one. (Ryanair was sometimes using
Maribor.) Then Trieste. Or some airports in Austria (Graz, Klagenfurt,
Salzburg, ...)

Venezia should be fine if you are ok traveling a bit: you could reach
me or Aljaž with a train for 10 EUR in cca. 2 hours. Or take a GoOpti
shuttle to Ljubljana.

(From my or Aljaž's place it's approximately 2 hours of driving to
reach Bohinj or any other destination close to the mountains. If we
pick the coast, it's a lot closer.)

See also http://matrix.itasoftware.com/ where you can pick the
airports on the map.

 ‘c uskoro!

 Wrong language, wrong input, but thanks a lot for trying ;) (Did you
 use google translate on C you soon? Also, it's jutro and a comma
 is missing in front of the name :P)

 No: “vidimu s’uskoro”, that’s what I say to my janitor almost every morning. 
 She is Serbian, and since she knows I dote on linguistics, she has taught me 
 very basic phrases in “Yugoslavian”, what ever that means now…

Yugoslavian language never existed. It has always been called
Serbo-Croatian until they made four or five languages out of it ;)

 But I understand that Slovenian is slightly different. Besides, Serbian uses 
 cyrillic, so I tried a transliteration a bit at random.

Serbians cannot decide whether to use the Latin on Cyrillic script, to
be precise. People use both scripts at random and have different
preferences each. So in contrast to Russian, the transliteration to
the Latin script is well defined. (During the last meeting we had to
get a visa for someone from Ukraine and he wasn't sure what his
transliterated name would be until he got his new Passport – just for
the meeting ;)

I'm not fluent in the language and I understand what you wanted to
say, but the transliterated(?) sentence still sounds wrong.

Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Vincent Habchi wrote:
 Until now up to 6 people replied that they *might* be able to show up
 in Europe. If the number stays that small, we could still meet, but it
 would be easier to just pick a location and go there without any big
 one-year-in-advance reservations of the place.

 Hi !

 If it’s scheduled enough in advance, I might be able to haul my rump out of 
 my Paris' office and join you for one day or two, as that’d be fun.

While most others say that it's too early to say ;)

 Do you have any blueprint yet?

Do you mean any idea about the programme and/or exact time  location?

Location: another MacPorter lives nearby and we are willing to
organize the event together, in the middle of Europe. We could
choose between close to the sea and in the mountains. I would
certainly like to avoid the cities and try to organize the event
somewhere in the nature (but still making sure that they would have a
decent internet connection). My preference is somewhere closer to the
mountains (I have a few particular places in mind).

Time: Somewhere between March and September, ideally end of August (at
the end of August one can still go swimming if we pick location next
to a lake, while it's not so awfully hot any more). We could pick the
dates together, but that only makes sense if enough people commit to
come soon enough. I would suggest something like Wednesday evening -
Sunday afternoon which would give us three full days (Thursday,
Friday, Saturday). Possibly a bit more, depending on what we want to
achieve and how problematic people find it to take free days at work.
End of august would also make perfect timing for students from GSOS to
present their work (but of course that depends from which part of the
globe they come).

Programme: (should be well prepared in advance, but it's too soon to
talk about details now)

Anyway, here's my idea about how it could be.

Morning: one or two talks about what developers did (maybe presenting
the new website, the new statistics collection website, etc.). After
the coffee break some round tables about topics chosen in advance.
It's hard to tell one year in advance what will be the burning issues
by then, but some examples include:
- is there any way we could set up some funding mechanisms; do we need that
- new website, new statistics website
- what to do with packaging Perl modules
- what could be done to make trac more efficient (in not forgetting
tickets after three days for example)
- what could be done to allow more committers
- ways to optimize the output from the buildbots
- what to do with C++11 software in pre-10.9; should we put extra
libraries to a special place
- should we set up buildbots for 10.6-10.8/libc++
- do we need openmaintainer or not (should openmaintainer be
opt-in or opt-out)
- way to retire defunct packages (which currently stay there broken forever)
- dealing with nomaintainer ports
- release cycles: ways to simplify making a release, should we release
more often, ...
- creating a top priority list to work on during the next few months
- ...
Lunch, possibly continue these discussions on fresh air after lunch.
Afternoon: hacking sessions behind computers, working on pre-defined
topics (discussed before the meeting). One example: I would like the
ports which fetch from git or svn to store the checkout in a
tar.gz/.bz2/.xz file, so that the next time there will be no need to
checkout everything again, just extract the archive. It's relatively
simple to do, but I don't have  enough tcl knowledge to do it, while
I'm sure that there would be enough developers capable of implementing
this at the meeting. The idea would be to sit together with such a
developer, implement a feature, commit it ...
Evening: beer and optional ticket closing sessions together with those
who were unable to attend.

The idea would be to organize the meeting with close to zero overhead
(no printing of conference materials or other junks; T-shirts only
if requested), just go to a nice budget hotel with internet
connection and a room for a meeting and have fun together.

Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-25 Thread Vincent Habchi
Dobro yutro Mojca,

 Location: another MacPorter lives nearby and we are willing to
 organize the event together, in the middle of Europe. We could
 choose between close to the sea and in the mountains. I would
 certainly like to avoid the cities and try to organize the event
 somewhere in the nature (but still making sure that they would have a
 decent internet connection). My preference is somewhere closer to the
 mountains (I have a few particular places in mind).

Konstanzmeer maybe? Where Germany, Switzerland and Austria meet?

‘c uskoro!

Vincent

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Vincent Habchi wrote:
 Dobro yutro Mojca,

 Location: another MacPorter lives nearby and we are willing to
 organize the event together, in the middle of Europe. We could
 choose between close to the sea and in the mountains. I would
 certainly like to avoid the cities and try to organize the event
 somewhere in the nature (but still making sure that they would have a
 decent internet connection). My preference is somewhere closer to the
 mountains (I have a few particular places in mind).

 Konstanzmeer maybe? Where Germany, Switzerland and Austria meet?

I have nothing against that location, but it's a bit more difficult
for me to organize a meeting there. Not that we need much of
organization, but someone else should pick a place.

In 2008 we had a ConTeXt meeting in Bohinj for example.
(http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/, here:
http://www.csod.si/dom/bohinj?language=en). That's not the only option
though (and maybe not even the best one). Lodging + three meals cost
26 EUR / day at that exact location (+ 20% for single room).

 ‘c uskoro!

Wrong language, wrong input, but thanks a lot for trying ;) (Did you
use google translate on C you soon? Also, it's jutro and a comma
is missing in front of the name :P)

Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-25 Thread Vincent Habchi
Le 25 juil. 2014 à 10:55, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org a écrit :

 In 2008 we had a ConTeXt meeting in Bohinj for example.
 (http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/, here:
 http://www.csod.si/dom/bohinj?language=en). That's not the only option
 though (and maybe not even the best one). Lodging + three meals cost
 26 EUR / day at that exact location (+ 20% for single room).

It’s clear that it’ll be very difficult to find a room at such a price around 
the lake of Constance! ;) But is there any international airport at hand? 
Trieste ? Gorizia ?

 ‘c uskoro!
 
 Wrong language, wrong input, but thanks a lot for trying ;) (Did you
 use google translate on C you soon? Also, it's jutro and a comma
 is missing in front of the name :P)

No: “vidimu s’uskoro”, that’s what I say to my janitor almost every morning. 
She is Serbian, and since she knows I dote on linguistics, she has taught me 
very basic phrases in “Yugoslavian”, what ever that means now… But I understand 
that Slovenian is slightly different. Besides, Serbian uses cyrillic, so I 
tried a transliteration a bit at random.

Cheers!
Vincent

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-25 Thread Aljaž
 On 25/lug/2014, at 13:52, Vincent Habchi vi...@macports.org wrote:
 
 Le 25 juil. 2014 à 10:55, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org a écrit :
 
 In 2008 we had a ConTeXt meeting in Bohinj for example.
 (http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/, here:
 http://www.csod.si/dom/bohinj?language=en). That's not the only option
 though (and maybe not even the best one). Lodging + three meals cost
 26 EUR / day at that exact location (+ 20% for single room).
 
 It’s clear that it’ll be very difficult to find a room at such a price around 
 the lake of Constance! ;) But is there any international airport at hand? 
 Trieste ? Gorizia ?

Since I currently live in Gorizia and there's an international airport at 
Ronchi dei Legionari (which is between Trieste and Gorizia), I'd be able to 
pick up max. 8 people by car!

 
 ‘c uskoro!
 
 Wrong language, wrong input, but thanks a lot for trying ;) (Did you
 use google translate on C you soon? Also, it's jutro and a comma
 is missing in front of the name :P)
 
 No: “vidimu s’uskoro”, that’s what I say to my janitor almost every morning. 
 She is Serbian, and since she knows I dote on linguistics, she has taught me 
 very basic phrases in “Yugoslavian”, what ever that means now… But I 
 understand that Slovenian is slightly different. Besides, Serbian uses 
 cyrillic, so I tried a transliteration a bit at random.
 
 Cheers!
 Vincent
 
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
 On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
 of your choice to the reply ;)

 Can't say for sure what I'll be up to in 2015, but I'd be interested. I'm 
 currently in New York.

 vq

 (Sorry to dredge this up after so many months. I've been on hiatus and am 
 working through my backlog.)

It's actually nice to dig it up a while. I was thinking of reposting
this anyway.

Until now up to 6 people replied that they *might* be able to show up
in Europe. If the number stays that small, we could still meet, but it
would be easier to just pick a location and go there without any big
one-year-in-advance reservations of the place.

(Doing the reservation one year in advance can make it easier to find
a nice and cheap place to sleep.)

I would really like to see at least someone from the PortMgr team or
someone from Apple/admins to participate if that was feasible. But
even without that ... it would be nice to have at least, say, 10
participants. We could organize a meeting with 6 though.

Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-23 Thread Vincent Habchi
 Until now up to 6 people replied that they *might* be able to show up
 in Europe. If the number stays that small, we could still meet, but it
 would be easier to just pick a location and go there without any big
 one-year-in-advance reservations of the place.

Hi !

If it’s scheduled enough in advance, I might be able to haul my rump out of my 
Paris' office and join you for one day or two, as that’d be fun. Do you have 
any blueprint yet?

Vincent

(I wouldn’t go to the US, though, over personal data privacy concerns)


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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-07-22 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:

 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
 of your choice to the reply ;)

Can't say for sure what I'll be up to in 2015, but I'd be interested. I'm 
currently in New York.

vq

(Sorry to dredge this up after so many months. I've been on hiatus and am 
working through my backlog.)
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-05 Thread Eric Gallager
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net wrote:

 On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:
 
  Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere
  in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each
  day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and
  someone should organize the local event there. Let's first figure out
  if we have sufficient interest to organize the event at all.

 a /long/ time ago, I suggested a MacPorts meetup after a Macworld, and it
 ended up being only two people (drernie and me). I would hope that there
 would be more interest in something now.

  I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
  username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.
  (Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be
  useful optional information for
  http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't
  mind sharing that information.)

 I think fkr collected some info for the xglobe port - but I don't think
 it's been updated in forever (it's nomaintainer now...)


I found it and attached it. You are right that it seems not to have been
updated in forever, as it still uses @opendarwin.org email addresses
instead of @macports.org ones.
# This file is part of the XGLobe distribution and is taken from xearth
#
# Format:
# latitude longitude Name [color=colorname]
# positive latitude - north of equator
# negative latitude - south of equator
# positive longitude - east of 0ー meridian
# negative longitude - west of 0ー meridian
#
# to be included in this file, send mail to: f...@opendarwin.org
#
# to just display these markers on the map:
# xglobe -nomarkers -markerfile $PREFIX/share/xglobe/xglobe-markers.opendarwin

  
  38.24  -121.26 drer...@opendarwin.org
  37.19  -122.03 esei...@apple.com
  37.87  -122.27 ri...@opendarwin.org
  37.21  -122.05 s...@opendarwin.org
  55.4012.35 ol...@opendarwin.org
  51.24 0.21 chris.r...@isode.com
  33.50  -118,21 tor...@mrcla.com
  37.09  -122.08 j...@opendarwin.org
  48.2802  7.4858 pk...@opendarwin.org
  46.2248  7.3485 m...@opendarwin.org
  49.5210.52 p...@opendarwin.org
  38.49   -77.05 w...@opendarwin.org
  50.0414.24 land...@opendarwin.org
  40.36   -74.03 gwri...@opendarwin.org
  33.47   -84.21 fea...@opendarwin.org
  37.53  -122.16 ke...@opendarwin.org
  45.520155   -122.688643   m...@opendarwin.org
  45.53375-122.69855jbe...@opendarwin.org
  33.27   -88.49 leim...@mac.com
 -27.50   152.96 ilis...@opendarwin.org
 -37.796355 144.981220 ye...@opendarwin.org
  37.33  -122.03 wa...@opendarwin.org
  34.49   134.34 po...@opendarwin.org 
  35.98   -78.94 d...@opendarwin.org
  37.38  -122.26 fen...@opendarwin.org
  48.560510 2.301050 m...@opendarwin.org
  35.00   135.45 morim...@opendarwin.org
  38.9   -104.75 b...@opendarwin.org
  37.37  -122.03 t...@opendarwin.org
  35.7194 139.6951 pgu...@opendarwin.org
  42.6978230 -84.5150650 dl...@opendarwin.org
  56.1610.21 dan...@opendarwin.org
  10.496  -66.8982 j...@opendarwin.org
  25.110433, 121.528026 dig...@opendarwin.org
  48.43   -68.37y...@opendarwin.org
  34.331318 135.350835 takan...@opendarwin.org
  60.13   24.55  j...@opendarwin.org
  
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MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi,

I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we
organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere in the heart of
Europe (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city
centers, somewhere in nature).

Let's assume that we could reach a price of 100 EUR (let's say 30
EUR/day) with all costs included (that is: lodging, food, conference
room rental, so you would only need to cover travel expenses in
addition to that).

This means:
- finding a time slot when most people would be able to attend
- making a reservation at some inexpensive holiday site
- make sure they have good internet connection and a room with enough
tables and chairs
- collect reservations, prepare a (flexible) program
- bring yourself and your mac to the site
(- and maybe finding a sponsor to give us access to a high speed multi
core mac during those few days to be able to compile things faster ;)

The meeting would cover:
- getting to know each other
- some talks about amazing things you did, would like to do or would
like to see done
- brainstorming, round table with discussion about new ideas and future
- hacking sessions, ticket closing marathon
- enough free time to enjoy nature: walks or maybe some field trips around

If we could get some 10-20 people to attend (and at least someone from
portmgr), it could be an amazing experience.

Any interest? (I'm thinking about 2015.)

Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
If I can get myself to Europe. Depends on where and when.

--Mark
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we
 organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere in the heart of
 Europe (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city
 centers, somewhere in nature).

 Let's assume that we could reach a price of 100 EUR (let's say 30
 EUR/day) with all costs included (that is: lodging, food, conference
 room rental, so you would only need to cover travel expenses in
 addition to that).

 This means:
 - finding a time slot when most people would be able to attend
 - making a reservation at some inexpensive holiday site
 - make sure they have good internet connection and a room with enough
 tables and chairs
 - collect reservations, prepare a (flexible) program
 - bring yourself and your mac to the site
 (- and maybe finding a sponsor to give us access to a high speed multi
 core mac during those few days to be able to compile things faster ;)

 The meeting would cover:
 - getting to know each other
 - some talks about amazing things you did, would like to do or would
 like to see done
 - brainstorming, round table with discussion about new ideas and future
 - hacking sessions, ticket closing marathon
 - enough free time to enjoy nature: walks or maybe some field trips around

 If we could get some 10-20 people to attend (and at least someone from
 portmgr), it could be an amazing experience.

 Any interest? (I'm thinking about 2015.)

 Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Dickens
Ditto what Mark wrote.  For me, this would generally be easier during
the summer break (maybe even bring the whole family, depending on where
it is).  That said, I'm wondering where most MacPorts devs reside --
seems like there are at least a few out in US/CA.  I'm in US/ET.  There
are certainly some in Europe ... Wondering if Washington/DC/US or
Boston/MA/US might be more centrally located.  I like the idea of a MP
gathering.  We do this for my other projects, along with presentations
by GSoC students on their work and a day hackfest, so why not with MP
too? - MLD



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014, at 01:15 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:

If I can get myself to Europe. Depends on where and when.
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
I would be interested in going, although Europe is kind of far away
from North America... What continent are most people from macports-dev
located on?

(Also, apparently 100 EUR is about $140 USD, and 30 EUR/day is about
$40 USD/day... I had no idea that the two currencies had diverged that
much recently...)


On 4/4/14, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we
 organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere in the heart of
 Europe (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city
 centers, somewhere in nature).

 Let's assume that we could reach a price of 100 EUR (let's say 30
 EUR/day) with all costs included (that is: lodging, food, conference
 room rental, so you would only need to cover travel expenses in
 addition to that).

 This means:
 - finding a time slot when most people would be able to attend
 - making a reservation at some inexpensive holiday site
 - make sure they have good internet connection and a room with enough
 tables and chairs
 - collect reservations, prepare a (flexible) program
 - bring yourself and your mac to the site
 (- and maybe finding a sponsor to give us access to a high speed multi
 core mac during those few days to be able to compile things faster ;)

 The meeting would cover:
 - getting to know each other
 - some talks about amazing things you did, would like to do or would
 like to see done
 - brainstorming, round table with discussion about new ideas and future
 - hacking sessions, ticket closing marathon
 - enough free time to enjoy nature: walks or maybe some field trips around

 If we could get some 10-20 people to attend (and at least someone from
 portmgr), it could be an amazing experience.

 Any interest? (I'm thinking about 2015.)

 Mojca
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
Oops, I did not see this message before sending my previous one, which
said pretty
much the same thing... US/ET here as well, and both Washington/DC/US and
Boston/MA/US would be easier for me, as I already have experience with
both cities...
although it would be cool to go to Europe sometime if I could manage it...

On 4/4/14, Michael Dickens michae...@macports.org wrote:
 Ditto what Mark wrote.  For me, this would generally be easier during
 the summer break (maybe even bring the whole family, depending on where
 it is).  That said, I'm wondering where most MacPorts devs reside --
 seems like there are at least a few out in US/CA.  I'm in US/ET.  There
 are certainly some in Europe ... Wondering if Washington/DC/US or
 Boston/MA/US might be more centrally located.  I like the idea of a MP
 gathering.  We do this for my other projects, along with presentations
 by GSoC students on their work and a day hackfest, so why not with MP
 too? - MLD



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 If I can get myself to Europe. Depends on where and when.

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Sean Farley

Eric Gallager eg...@gwmail.gwu.edu writes:

 I would be interested in going, although Europe is kind of far away
 from North America... What continent are most people from macports-dev
 located on?

Since getting visas to the US is non-trivial and also that flights
across the Atlantics are not the cheapest, maybe we could have two
meetings at the same time? We could even be fancy and video connect the
two rooms!
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi,

I mentioned Europe for obvious reasons: because it's way cheaper (for
Europeans) to take a train or car than to fly to San Francisco. And
because I know a few places where such a meeting could take place
without spending a fortune for food and accommodation (I already
organized one).

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Sean Farley wrote:

 Since getting visas to the US is non-trivial and also that flights
 across the Atlantics are not the cheapest, maybe we could have two
 meetings at the same time? We could even be fancy and video connect the
 two rooms!

That's what I was thinking of as well.

Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere
in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each
day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and
someone should organize the local event there. Let's first figure out
if we have sufficient interest to organize the event at all.

I seem to remember some discussions about ticket closing marathons
held online on regular basis (once per month or once every few months)
without reaching any consensus.

I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.
(Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be
useful optional information for
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't
mind sharing that information.)

If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
of your choice to the reply ;)

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Wahlstedt Jyrki

On 4 .4 .2014, at 22.22, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
snip
 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
 of your choice to the reply ;)
 
 Mojca

This
would definitely be good for the community, I think. Now we see each other’s 
names in emails and commits, but have a real-life meeting would enhance the 
team.

I absolutely prefer Europe, living in Finland.

!
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:
 
 Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere
 in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each
 day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and
 someone should organize the local event there. Let's first figure out
 if we have sufficient interest to organize the event at all.

a /long/ time ago, I suggested a MacPorts meetup after a Macworld, and it ended 
up being only two people (drernie and me). I would hope that there would be 
more interest in something now.

 I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
 username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.
 (Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be
 useful optional information for
 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't
 mind sharing that information.)

I think fkr collected some info for the xglobe port - but I don't think it's 
been updated in forever (it's nomaintainer now...)

 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
 of your choice to the reply ;)

NA/US would be cheaper for me, but it would be fun to visit EU.

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi

I'm interested and I'd welcome Europe. That will however depend on where
I'll be in 2015.

 I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
 username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.

mpbot in IRC has some locations, but obviously not all devs are there
and not all that are have their locations and timezones registered
at the herald bot.

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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Peter Danecek

Hi all,

I like the idea of the face-to-face meeting of the Macports community. The 
sketch of the possible program sound reasonable. We definitely should have some 
first I idea of the no. of participants. Having it in two different locations + 
video conf. has some coolness factor but on the other hand might be somewhat 
dispersive and loose momentum, which probably is a bit contradictory with 
respect to the original goal. We meet already online regularly.

I would definitely like to participate, but of cause this is always (and that 
is probably always true) conditioned by a lot of other factors (professional 
and private involvements). If it comes to the location, for me Europe would 
definitely be easier. I currently reside in Italy, but other locations in 
Europe are highly relevant to me as well.

So let's get a first number, there one count for me!
~petr



On 4 Apr 2014, at 21:22, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I mentioned Europe for obvious reasons: because it's way cheaper (for
 Europeans) to take a train or car than to fly to San Francisco. And
 because I know a few places where such a meeting could take place
 without spending a fortune for food and accommodation (I already
 organized one).
 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Sean Farley wrote:
 
 Since getting visas to the US is non-trivial and also that flights
 across the Atlantics are not the cheapest, maybe we could have two
 meetings at the same time? We could even be fancy and video connect the
 two rooms!
 
 That's what I was thinking of as well.
 
 Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere
 in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each
 day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and
 someone should organize the local event there. Let's first figure out
 if we have sufficient interest to organize the event at all.
 
 I seem to remember some discussions about ticket closing marathons
 held online on regular basis (once per month or once every few months)
 without reaching any consensus.
 
 I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
 username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.
 (Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be
 useful optional information for
 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't
 mind sharing that information.)
 
 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent
 of your choice to the reply ;)
 
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Aljaž 'g5pw' Srebrnič
Hello everyone!
I’d love to meet others in the community. Since me and Mojca live pretty close 
together, I can give you a hand organizing. And hey, we’re at three members 
residing in (or really close to) Italy! :)

On 04 aprile 2014 at 23:32:07, Peter Danecek (peter.dane...@bo.ingv.it) wrote:


Hi all,  

I like the idea of the face-to-face meeting of the Macports community. The 
sketch of the possible program sound reasonable. We definitely should have some 
first I idea of the no. of participants. Having it in two different locations + 
video conf. has some coolness factor but on the other hand might be somewhat 
dispersive and loose momentum, which probably is a bit contradictory with 
respect to the original goal. We meet already online regularly.  

I would definitely like to participate, but of cause this is always (and that 
is probably always true) conditioned by a lot of other factors (professional 
and private involvements). If it comes to the location, for me Europe would 
definitely be easier. I currently reside in Italy, but other locations in 
Europe are highly relevant to me as well.  

So let's get a first number, there one count for me!  
~petr  



On 4 Apr 2014, at 21:22, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:  

 Hi,  
  
 I mentioned Europe for obvious reasons: because it's way cheaper (for  
 Europeans) to take a train or car than to fly to San Francisco. And  
 because I know a few places where such a meeting could take place  
 without spending a fortune for food and accommodation (I already  
 organized one).  
  
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Sean Farley wrote:  
  
 Since getting visas to the US is non-trivial and also that flights  
 across the Atlantics are not the cheapest, maybe we could have two  
 meetings at the same time? We could even be fancy and video connect the  
 two rooms!  
  
 That's what I was thinking of as well.  
  
 Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere  
 in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each  
 day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and  
 someone should organize the local event there. Let's first figure out  
 if we have sufficient interest to organize the event at all.  
  
 I seem to remember some discussions about ticket closing marathons  
 held online on regular basis (once per month or once every few months)  
 without reaching any consensus.  
  
 I was trying to figure out if there was any information about  
 username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.  
 (Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be  
 useful optional information for  
 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't  
 mind sharing that information.)  
  
 If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent  
 of your choice to the reply ;)  
  
 Mojca  
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 07:47 , Daniel J. Luke wrote:
 On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec mo...@macports.org wrote:

 I was trying to figure out if there was any information about
 username-continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything.
 (Maybe that or the default timezone like UTC+1/UTC-7/... could be
 useful optional information for
 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsDevelopers for those who don't
 mind sharing that information.)
 
 I think fkr collected some info for the xglobe port - but I don't think it's 
 been updated in forever (it's nomaintainer now...)

mpbot also has some location data.

- Josh
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Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 03:43 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we
 organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere in the heart of
 Europe (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city
 centers, somewhere in nature).
 
 Let's assume that we could reach a price of 100 EUR (let's say 30
 EUR/day) with all costs included (that is: lodging, food, conference
 room rental, so you would only need to cover travel expenses in
 addition to that).
 
 This means:
 - finding a time slot when most people would be able to attend
 - making a reservation at some inexpensive holiday site
 - make sure they have good internet connection and a room with enough
 tables and chairs
 - collect reservations, prepare a (flexible) program
 - bring yourself and your mac to the site
 (- and maybe finding a sponsor to give us access to a high speed multi
 core mac during those few days to be able to compile things faster ;)
 
 The meeting would cover:
 - getting to know each other
 - some talks about amazing things you did, would like to do or would
 like to see done
 - brainstorming, round table with discussion about new ideas and future
 - hacking sessions, ticket closing marathon
 - enough free time to enjoy nature: walks or maybe some field trips around
 
 If we could get some 10-20 people to attend (and at least someone from
 portmgr), it could be an amazing experience.
 
 Any interest? (I'm thinking about 2015.)
 
 Mojca

Sounds great, but unfortunately I'm unlikely to be able to attend.

- Josh
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