Re: script to generate macports dependency graph

2015-01-22 Thread Mathias Laurin
Yes, the scripts can be placed anywhere. Typically, you would
put them somewhere in your $PATH so that you do not have to
remember where they are but this is not actually required.


Mathias


 On 21 Jan 2015, at 22:11, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote:
 
 On Wed, January 21, 2015 20:58, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
 Where should one place those two scripts on one's computer?
 
 It looks like they can both run from anywhere, making use of your $PATH to
 find MacPorts.
 
 
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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, William H. Magill wrote:

 After a tremendous amount of effort on the part of numerous kernel 
 programmers at DEC, they discovered that the bottom level BSD I/O 
 modules had not been looked at (literally) since PDP days. Disk I/O 
 was being done in 128 byte blocks.

You sure abut this?  My memory of the PDP days (ye olde 11/40) was that 
I/O was the same as the disk sector i.e. 512 bytes; this was V5/V6/V7 
Unix.

 One thing which I noticed immediately when I turned on iCloud disk in 
 Yosemite -- the lag involved with launching any program which stored 
 anything in the cloud. Not unexpected, but significant none the less.

I've never bothered with iCloud; I don't store much stuff anyway (see my 
signature), and it all gets backed up to my Time Capsule.

 Similarly, I had a problem where my internal hard drive would literally 
 not spin-up. Took the iMac in to the Apple Store and they ran their 
 diagnostics and pronounced nothing wrong -- the tests passed with flying 
 colors!
 
 I finally convinced them that the drive was not spinning up and they got 
 a tech to come out front who had a stethoscope and instantly verified 
 that the drive was not spinning.

Didn't they see the dreaded question mark on booting up?

 I've seen too many cases related to both BSD (and later Mach, i.e. NeXT 
 and OSX) where much of the hardware level stuff is completely ignored 
 by any of the upper-level reporting software. -- one of the main reasons 
 why Drive manufacturers developed S.M.A.R.T. -- the OS does not do the 
 job.

Hmmm...  I just tried SMART on my drive, but being an external USB drive 
(long story) it's not supported, so...

 In my experience, by the time the OS flags a Disk error, you have been 
 suffering constant performance degrading failures which are simply below 
 the reporting threshold, for quite some time.

I have been seeing slow performance lately; I bought the MacBook early in 
2010, but it's a late 2009 model.  I wonder?

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:29 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 A bit too many reports of comparable symptoms in 10.9 somehow related to
 disk I/O errors for my comfort zone. OS X wouldn't be doing something low
 level that somehow stresses the disk hardware I hope?


Just for one example (in the area of complex systems): HFS+'s hot file
support is the sort of thing that can exacerbate failing disks... and the
effect would get worse with certain kinds of changes to what files are
hot, which might well cause it to become more evident in a newer OS
version.

And I don't think the right answer here is simplify because that just
covers up the fact that it's failing, ensuring that when it becomes obvious
again it'll be too late to save your data. (Yes, yes, have backups ---
guess what? Backups will *also* make this more obvious. So do you also
disable backups because they trigger disk errors?)

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:29 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wouldn't immediately think about disk i/o errors either from the
 symptoms you described (not for short freezes in anyway). Not with an hdd
 anyway.


I would --- but that may be because I've seen it in action (most closely
related to this thread: freezes like that led me to discover that the HD in
my old iBook was kaput).

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday January 22 2015 09:40:28 Brandon Allbery wrote:

 Just for one example (in the area of complex systems): HFS+'s hot file
 support is the sort of thing that can exacerbate failing disks... and the
 effect would get worse with certain kinds of changes to what files are
 hot, which might well cause it to become more evident in a newer OS
 version.

I don't know if the hot file feature is what I was thinking with low level 
operations, but yes, it is something that could exacerbate failing disk by 
concentration frequent read/writes on a specific part of the disk.

 again it'll be too late to save your data. (Yes, yes, have backups ---
 guess what? Backups will *also* make this more obvious. So do you also

I guess you mean full backups which are a way of testing the entire set of 
sectors in use?

 disable backups because they trigger disk errors?)

What did you think I was suggesting?

I wasn't. I was asking.
And yes, I do keep in mind that Apple has reasons to drive sales and incite 
people to buy new hardware and is probably not above tactics that decrease a 
product's theoretical lifetime.

R.
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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:02 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 And yes, I do keep in mind that Apple has reasons to drive sales and
 incite people to buy new hardware and is probably not above tactics that
 decrease a product's theoretical lifetime.


I think there are a lot of things one can do that can have the side effect
of pushing the boundaries of hardware (this includes things like
compression). Not to mention things like SSD where you are explicitly
trading lifetime for performance. Searching for reasons to believe it's
just to drive obsolescence isn't particularly fruitful, unless you consider
paranoia an end in itself.

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Eclipse IDE

2015-01-22 Thread Jerry
Is the Eclipse IDE available from MacPorts? I had the notion that it is but all 
I see is the following which does not look like the IDE:

eclipse-ecj32 3.2.2-200702121330
Eclipse java bytecode compiler
Licenses: EPL-1 
Maintained by: gmail.com:mvfranz openmaintainer
Categories: java
Platforms: darwin 
Dependencies: kaffe unzip apache-ant 

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Re: Not really MacPorts problem, I don't think.

2015-01-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 I don't know what MacPorts can do about this one.
 
 I have the MacPorts version of Apache2 installed.
 - Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.1k DAV/2 PHP/5.6.4 
 configured 
 
 If I power-cycle my machine, when it comes back up, Apache2  has failed to 
 start.
 
 If I then try to load Apache2 -- it is reported as already running.
 
 $ sudo port load apache2
 $ Password:
 $ 
 /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/org.macports.apache2.plist: 
 Operation already in progress
 
 So I unload, then load and Apache starts with no problems.
 
 What is happening is apparently a timing problem. I.e. it fails on boot, but 
 works fine after OSX is up and running.
 
 The error is simple -- 
 
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:12 2015] [info] mod_ssl/2.2.29 compiled against Server: 
 Apache/2.2.29, Library: OpenSSL/1.0.1j
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest 
 authentication ...
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: done
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [alert] (EAI 8)nodename nor servname provided, or 
 not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of 
 shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org
 Configuration Failed
 
 Shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org is the FQDN of the server.
 
 ServerName is configured: 
 ServerName localhost:80
 
 From trying to deal with the local host issue from before.

So launchd is launching apache too early. I believe there are some keys one can 
use in a launchd plist that would affect when launchd tries to launch a 
service. If you can find a launchd plist key/value that fixes this issue, 
MacPorts could be enhanced to offer portfile authors a way to use that key, or 
to use that key/value by default even.

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Re: Not really MacPorts problem, I don't think.

2015-01-22 Thread Craig Treleaven

At 8:42 PM -0600 1/22/15, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, William H. Magill wrote:


 I don't know what MacPorts can do about this one.

 I have the MacPorts version of Apache2 installed.
 - Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.1k DAV/2 
PHP/5.6.4 configured


 If I power-cycle my machine, when it comes back up, Apache2  has 
failed to start.


 If I then try to load Apache2 -- it is reported as already running.

 $ sudo port load apache2
 $ Password:
 $ 
/opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/org.macports.apache2.plist: 
Operation already in progress


 So I unload, then load and Apache starts with no problems.

 What is happening is apparently a timing problem. I.e. it fails on 
boot, but works fine after OSX is up and running.


 The error is simple --

 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:12 2015] [info] mod_ssl/2.2.29 compiled against 
Server: Apache/2.2.29, Library: OpenSSL/1.0.1j
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: generating secret for 
digest authentication ...

 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: done
 [Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [alert] (EAI 8)nodename nor servname 
provided, or not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address 
of shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org

 Configuration Failed

 Shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org is the FQDN of the server.

 ServerName is configured:
 ServerName localhost:80

 From trying to deal with the local host issue from before.


So launchd is launching apache too early. I believe there are some 
keys one can use in a launchd plist that would affect when launchd 
tries to launch a service. If you can find a launchd plist key/value 
that fixes this issue, MacPorts could be enhanced to offer portfile 
authors a way to use that key, or to use that key/value by default 
even.


I'm not expert, but would the NetworkState key help?  See:

http://launchd.info/

Goto Configuration, scroll down to ...Depending on Network Availability:

Craig
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pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hello,

After the recent request to let phonon-backend-gstreamer depend on the good 
gstreamer plugins, which by default depend on pulseaudio, I decided to rebuild 
that port myself without X11 support.

Turns out that I cannot even build its default configuration; the build fails 
with

libtool: compile:  /usr/bin/clang -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../src 
-I../src/modules -I../src/modules -DPA_ALSA_PATHS_DIR=\\ 
-DPA_ALSA_PROFILE_SETS_DIR=\\ -I/opt/local/include -DFASTPATH 
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread 
-DPA_SRCDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 
-DPA_BUILDDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 -I/opt/local/include/json-c -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include/glib-2.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include -D_REENTRANT 
-I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 -I/opt/local/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/opt
 /local/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 
-I/opt/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/cairo -I/opt/local/include/pango-1.0 
-I/opt/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/cairo 
-I/opt/local/include/pixman-1 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 
-I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/lo
 cal/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/ -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -Os -arch x86_64 -Wall -W -Wextra -pipe 
-Wno-long-long -Wno-overlength-strings -Wundef -Wformat=2 -Wsign-compare 
-Wformat-security -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral 
-Wold-style-definition -Wpointer-arith -Winit-self 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-noreturn 
-Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wcast-align -Wstrict-aliasing -Wwrite-strings 
-Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math -fno-common -fdiagnostics-show-option 
-isysroot / -mmacosx-version-min=10.9 -MT 
pulsecore/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.lo -MD -MP -MF 
pulsecore/.deps/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.Tpo -c pulsecore/core-util.c  
-fno-common -DPIC -o pulsecore/.libs/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.o
In file included from pulsecore/core-rtclock.c:41:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:23:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/AE.framework/Headers/AE.h:20:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/CarbonCore.h:31:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:240:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Point'
  Point   location;   /* File's location in the folder 
*/
  ^
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:246:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Rect'
  RectwindowBounds;   /* The position and dimension of 
the folder's window */
  ^

Any idea what to look for? Is this related to the Xcode update - the binary 
build is from June 1st 2014, which would be Xcode 5.1 I guess?

R.
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Re: pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread David Evans

On 1/22/15 3:47 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

Hello,

After the recent request to let phonon-backend-gstreamer depend on the good 
gstreamer plugins, which by default depend on pulseaudio, I decided to rebuild that port 
myself without X11 support.

Turns out that I cannot even build its default configuration; the build fails 
with

libtool: compile:  /usr/bin/clang -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../src -I../src/modules -I../src/modules 
-DPA_ALSA_PATHS_DIR=\\ -DPA_ALSA_PROFILE_SETS_DIR=\\ -I/opt/local/include -DFASTPATH 
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread 
-DPA_SRCDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 
-DPA_BUILDDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 -I/opt/local/include/json-c -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include -D_REENTRANT 
-I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 -I/opt/local/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/opt
  /local/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 
-I/opt/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/cairo -I/opt/local/include/pango-1.0 
-I/opt/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/cairo 
-I/opt/local/include/pixman-1 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 
-I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/lo
  cal/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/ -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -Os -arch x86_64 -Wall -W -Wextra -pipe 
-Wno-long-long -Wno-overlength-strings -Wundef -Wformat=2 -Wsign-compare 
-Wformat-security -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral 
-Wold-style-definition -Wpointer-arith -Winit-self 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-noreturn 
-Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wcast-align -Wstrict-aliasing -Wwrite-strings 
-Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math -fno-common -fdiagnostics-show-option 
-isysroot / -mmacosx-version-min=10.9 -MT 
pulsecore/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.lo -MD -MP -MF 
pulsecore/.deps/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.Tpo -c pulsecore/core-util.c  
-fno-common -DPIC -o pulsecore/.libs/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.o
In file included from pulsecore/core-rtclock.c:41:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:23:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/AE.framework/Headers/AE.h:20:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/CarbonCore.h:31:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:240:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Point'
   Point   location;   /* File's location in the folder 
*/
   ^
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:246:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Rect'
   RectwindowBounds;   /* The position and dimension of 
the folder's window */
   ^

Any idea what to look for? Is this related to the Xcode update - the binary 
build is from June 1st 2014, which would be Xcode 5.1 I guess?

R.


Builds OK for me on Mavericks (10.9.5) both with and without x11 variant.
Xcode 6.1.1
Build version 6A2008a

What OS version are you using?

Dave


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Re: pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread David Evans

On 1/22/15 3:47 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

Hello,

After the recent request to let phonon-backend-gstreamer depend on the good 
gstreamer plugins, which by default depend on pulseaudio, I decided to rebuild that port 
myself without X11 support.

Turns out that I cannot even build its default configuration; the build fails 
with

libtool: compile:  /usr/bin/clang -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../src -I../src/modules -I../src/modules 
-DPA_ALSA_PATHS_DIR=\\ -DPA_ALSA_PROFILE_SETS_DIR=\\ -I/opt/local/include -DFASTPATH 
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread 
-DPA_SRCDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 
-DPA_BUILDDIR=\/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_site-ports_audio_pulseaudio/pulseaudio/work/pulseaudio-5.0/src\
 -I/opt/local/include/json-c -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include -D_REENTRANT 
-I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 -I/opt/local/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/opt
  /local/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/opt/local/include/gtk-3.0 
-I/opt/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/cairo -I/opt/local/include/pango-1.0 
-I/opt/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/cairo 
-I/opt/local/include/pixman-1 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 
-I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include 
-I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/harfbuzz -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Volumes/Debian/MacPorts/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/opt/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/opt/local/include/libpng16 -I/opt/lo
  cal/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include 
-I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/ -I/opt/local/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/opt/local/lib/dbus-1.0/include -Os -arch x86_64 -Wall -W -Wextra -pipe 
-Wno-long-long -Wno-overlength-strings -Wundef -Wformat=2 -Wsign-compare 
-Wformat-security -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral 
-Wold-style-definition -Wpointer-arith -Winit-self 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-noreturn 
-Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wcast-align -Wstrict-aliasing -Wwrite-strings 
-Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math -fno-common -fdiagnostics-show-option 
-isysroot / -mmacosx-version-min=10.9 -MT 
pulsecore/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.lo -MD -MP -MF 
pulsecore/.deps/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.Tpo -c pulsecore/core-util.c  
-fno-common -DPIC -o pulsecore/.libs/libpulsecommon_5.0_la-core-util.o
In file included from pulsecore/core-rtclock.c:41:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:23:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/AE.framework/Headers/AE.h:20:
In file included from 
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/CarbonCore.h:31:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:240:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Point'
   Point   location;   /* File's location in the folder 
*/
   ^
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:246:3:
 error: unknown type name 'Rect'
   RectwindowBounds;   /* The position and dimension of 
the folder's window */
   ^

Any idea what to look for? Is this related to the Xcode update - the binary 
build is from June 1st 2014, which would be Xcode 5.1 I guess?

R.

I'll take a look but please file a ticket on trac with all the relevant 
information including a clean build log in its entirety,


Thanks.


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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread James Linder

 On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:42 am, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I cannot explain why a (normally) rational, sane thinking idiot did not 
 make that his first port of call (beautifully synced)
 
 Jan 21 00:04:34 haycorn kernel[0]: disk0s2: I/O error.
 
 Thanks everybody, and sorry for being an idiot
 
 I wouldn't immediately think about disk i/o errors either from the symptoms 
 you described (not for short freezes in anyway). Not with an hdd anyway.
 What's in your logs around those I/O error messages, and what do the 
 smartmontools (in MacPorts) tell about the disk's health? smartctl -a 
 /dev/disk0 and do run smartctl -t long /dev/disk0 (disabling disk spin down 
 for the duration of the test as that would interrupt it)?
 
 A bit too many reports of comparable symptoms in 10.9 somehow related to 
 disk I/O errors for my comfort zone. OS X wouldn't be doing something low 
 level that somehow stresses the disk hardware I hope?

I confess to bias suspecting yosemite before anything else!
smartctl -a gives zillions of errors eg

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000e   078   077   006Old_age   Always   
-   183829319
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   100   100   000Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   099   099   020Old_age   Always   
-   1749
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   081   060   030Pre-fail  Always   
-   147598082
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   078   078   000Old_age   Always   
-   19827
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   097Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   099   099   020Old_age   Always   
-   1505
184 End-to-End_Error0x0032   100   100   099Old_age   Always   
-   0
187 Reported_Uncorrect  0x0032   001   001   000Old_age   Always   
-   34330
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a   099   099   000Old_age   Always   
-   1
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   058   040   045Old_age   Always   
In_the_past 42 (3 248 42 24 0)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   042   060   000Old_age   Always   
-   42 (0 16 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   038   025   000Old_age   Always   
-   183829319
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   2
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age   Offline  
-   2
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   200   000Old_age   Always   
-   0

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday January 23 2015 08:56:31 James Linder wrote:

 smartctl -a gives zillions of errors eg

   7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   081   060   030Pre-fail  Always  
  -   147598082
 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   038   025   000Old_age   Always  
  -   183829319

A zillion is a bit over the top: I see only these 2 indicators that catch 
attention, but without knowing the disk model it's hard to interpret the data. 
port:gsmartcontrol can help with that, btw.

Bad sectors aren't necessarily detected and recorded on the fly, though. I 
always forget if the get stored (and remapped) during the 1st extensive 
self-test after a full disk write or if it's the other way round (last time I 
had to cope with one was about 10y ago) but in your case a full rewrite may not 
be required as long as the disk doesn't spin down after the last error and the 
self test.

Good luck,
R.
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Re: pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday January 22 2015 16:19:39 David Evans wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for looking.

 Builds OK for me on Mavericks (10.9.5) both with and without x11 variant.
 Xcode 6.1.1
 Build version 6A2008a
 
 What OS version are you using?

Same. But I bet you don't get this (copied from my initial message):

cal/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include 
  -I/opt/local/include -I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/ -

or at least you have nothing at that particular location. Seems the build 
process picks up things in /Developer when they exist:

checking looking for Apple CoreService Framework... checking 
/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h usability... no
checking /Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h presence... no


Could be worth it trying to deactivate that logic for 10.7 or 10.8 and beyond?

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Re: pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same. But I bet you don't get this (copied from my initial message):
 
  cal/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include 
 -I/opt/local/include -I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/ -
 
 or at least you have nothing at that particular location. Seems the build 
 process picks up things in /Developer when they exist:
 
 checking looking for Apple CoreService Framework... checking 
 /Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h usability... no
 checking /Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h presence... no
 
 
 Could be worth it trying to deactivate that logic for 10.7 or 10.8 and beyond?

Does doing so fix your build?

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Re: OT probably, help please (fwd)

2015-01-22 Thread Dave Horsfall
Oops; this was meant foe the list...

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:11:06 +1100 (EST)
From: Dave Horsfall d...@horsfall.org
To: René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT probably, help please

Someone mentioned launchd.info (and I daftly deleted the message).  
Does it look as wonky for others as it does for me?  I'm using Firefox 
35.0 (haven't tried others, as the last time I did it buggered up a few 
things) and I get, in the top half, a static window with some sort of an 
index and a silhouette of something looking like a watering can, with a 
full-screen scrolling window under it.

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hypermail port problem

2015-01-22 Thread jerome schatten

*S*ystem: MacMini -- late 2014 - Yosemite 10.10.1; Xcode installed.

I've installed macports 2.3.3 with no problems; I've installed port 
hypermail with no 'apparent' problem. I've followed the MacPorts Guide 
every step of the way.


My first question is this: The install of the hypermail port gives:

jeromes-Mac-mini:bin jeromeschatten$ sudo port install hypermail

Warning: The Xcode Command Line Tools don't appear to be installed; most 
ports will likely fail to build.

Warning: Install them by running `xcode-select --install'.
---  Fetching archive for hypermail
---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2 from 
http://packages.macports.org/hypermail
---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2.rmd160 
from http://packages.macports.org/hypermail

---  Installing hypermail @2.3.0_1
---  Activating hypermail @2.3.0_1
---  Cleaning hypermail
---  Updating database of binaries
---  Scanning binaries for linking errors
---  No broken files found.


But Xcode IS installed and the tools work as I've used them elsewhere. 
Is this a or is this not a problem?


If it's not a problem, then at this point, I should be able to launch 
the hypermail binary with a './hypermail' and it should run. But it 
doesn't. The cursor simply moves to the next line and it sits there. No 
error messages, nothing.


I looked at the hypermail and xcode process with top and it reports:
PID   COMMAND  %CPU  TIME #TH  #WQ  #PORT MEMPURG CMPR PGRP
[...]
1435  hypermail   0.0   00:00.001015 604K   
0B 0B   1435


1404  Xcode0.0   00:02.2681249 66M
72K   0B   1404


So, it doesn't look like hypermail is doing much and Xcode is indeed there.

I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have.
Thanks,
jerome





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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:26 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh wait, but you're running FreeBSD on it ... O:-)


I read MacBook with a FreeBSD *server*. I used to run that kind of setup
myself (and am trying to scrounge hardware to do so again...).

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Re: OT probably, help please

2015-01-22 Thread William H. Magill

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:29 AM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thursday January 22 2015 08:56:25 James Linder wrote:
 
 I cannot explain why a (normally) rational, sane thinking idiot did not make 
 that his first port of call (beautifully synced)
 
 Jan 21 00:04:34 haycorn kernel[0]: disk0s2: I/O error.
 
 Thanks everybody, and sorry for being an idiot
 
 I wouldn't immediately think about disk i/o errors either from the symptoms 
 you described (not for short freezes in anyway). Not with an hdd anyway.
 What's in your logs around those I/O error messages, and what do the 
 smartmontools (in MacPorts) tell about the disk's health? smartctl -a 
 /dev/disk0 and do run smartctl -t long /dev/disk0 (disabling disk spin down 
 for the duration of the test as that would interrupt it)?
 
 A bit too many reports of comparable symptoms in 10.9 somehow related to disk 
 I/O errors for my comfort zone. OS X wouldn't be doing something low level 
 that somehow stresses the disk hardware I hope?

Long ago in the days of Ultrix, there were some massive parts of the low-level 
disk-i/o that never saw the light of day.
(Ultrix from DEC being a direct BSD clone.)
None of the hardware level routines were addressed by any of the accounting 
routines. Made performance look good, but debugging impossible.

Performance was unexplaninedly lower than the new hardware predicted.
After a tremendous amount of effort on the part of numerous kernel programmers 
at DEC, they discovered that the bottom level BSD I/O modules had not been 
looked at (literally) since PDP days. Disk I/O was being done in 128 byte 
blocks.
The new hardware had 4096 byte tracks. 
Calculate how many I/Os were required to write a single track!
Increasing the basic block size dramatically cut down on the number of I/Os and 
their consequent overhead - performance improvement was dramatic.

One thing which I noticed immediately when I turned on iCloud disk in Yosemite 
-- the lag involved with launching any program which stored anything in the 
cloud.
Not unexpected, but significant none the less.

Similarly, I had a problem where my internal hard drive would literally not 
spin-up. 
Took the iMac in to the Apple Store and they ran their diagnostics and 
pronounced nothing wrong -- the tests passed with flying colors!

I finally convinced them that the drive was not spinning up and they got a tech 
to come out front who had a stethoscope and instantly verified that the drive 
was not spinning.

I've seen too many cases related to both BSD (and later Mach, i.e. NeXT and 
OSX) where much of the hardware level stuff is completely ignored by any of 
the upper-level reporting software. -- one of the main reasons why Drive 
manufacturers developed S.M.A.R.T. -- the OS does not do the job.

In my experience, by the time the OS flags a Disk error, you have been 
suffering constant performance degrading failures which are simply below the 
reporting threshold, for quite some time.


T.T.F.N.
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Not really MacPorts problem, I don't think.

2015-01-22 Thread William H. Magill
I don't know what MacPorts can do about this one.

I have the MacPorts version of Apache2 installed.
- Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.1k DAV/2 PHP/5.6.4 configured 

If I power-cycle my machine, when it comes back up, Apache2  has failed to 
start.

If I then try to load Apache2 -- it is reported as already running.

$ sudo port load apache2
$ Password:
$ /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.apache2/org.macports.apache2.plist: 
Operation already in progress

So I unload, then load and Apache starts with no problems.

What is happening is apparently a timing problem. I.e. it fails on boot, but 
works fine after OSX is up and running.

The error is simple -- 

[Thu Jan 22 02:17:12 2015] [info] mod_ssl/2.2.29 compiled against Server: 
Apache/2.2.29, Library: OpenSSL/1.0.1j
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest 
authentication ...
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [notice] Digest: done
[Thu Jan 22 02:17:19 2015] [alert] (EAI 8)nodename nor servname provided, or 
not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of 
shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org
Configuration Failed

Shianbrae.mcgillsociety.org is the FQDN of the server.

ServerName is configured: 
 ServerName localhost:80

From trying to deal with the local host issue from before.


T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
# iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.93GHz - 8 GB 1067MHz] OS X 10.10.1
# Macmini6,1 Intel Core i5 [2.5 Ghz - 4GB 1600MHz] OS X 10.10.1 OSX Server (now 
dead)

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Re: hypermail port problem

2015-01-22 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jan 23, 2015, at 1:31 AM, jerome schatten rom...@shaw.ca wrote:

 *S*ystem: MacMini -- late 2014 - Yosemite 10.10.1; Xcode installed.
 
 I've installed macports 2.3.3 with no problems; I've installed port hypermail 
 with no 'apparent' problem. I've followed the MacPorts Guide every step of 
 the way.

For others' benefit, OP already opened a ticket about this:

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/46655

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Re: pulseaudio 5.0 fails to build

2015-01-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Jan 22, 2015, at 5:47 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

 In file included from 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:23:
 In file included from 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/AE.framework/Headers/AE.h:20:
 In file included from 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/CarbonCore.h:31:
 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:240:3:
  error: unknown type name 'Point'
  Point   location;   /* File's location in the folder 
 */
  ^
 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/Finder.h:246:3:
  error: unknown type name 'Rect'
  RectwindowBounds;   /* The position and dimension of 
 the folder's window */
  ^

Point and Rect are Carbon types. Carbon is obsolete and should no longer be 
used.



On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
 
 On Thursday January 22 2015 19:58:50 Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
 
 checking looking for Apple CoreService Framework... checking 
 /Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h usability... no
 checking /Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/CoreServices.h presence... no
 
 
 Could be worth it trying to deactivate that logic for 10.7 or 10.8 and 
 beyond?
 
 Does doing so fix your build?
 
 For now I have only tried the complementary action (moving /Developer/Headers 
 aside) as evidenced by the quote above, and yes, the build works like that.


/Developer should only exist on OS X 10.6 and earlier. If you have this 
directory on OS X 10.9, delete it. All it can do is cause problems.

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Re: hypermail port problem

2015-01-22 Thread jerome schatten
Looks to me that the command line tools were installed -- are not the 
compilers part of command line tools? Maybe they're not in the expected 
place in Yosemite?



Last login: Thu Jan 22 23:41:26 on ttys001
jeromes-Mac-mini:~ jeromeschatten$ gcc --version
Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr 
--with-gxx-include-dir=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.10.sdk/usr/include/c++/4.2.1

Apple LLVM version 6.0 (clang-600.0.56) (based on LLVM 3.5svn)
Target: x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0
Thread model: posix
jeromes-Mac-mini:~ jeromeschatten$

j.

On 2015-01-22 11:23 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:31 AM, jerome schatten wrote:


*S*ystem: MacMini -- late 2014 - Yosemite 10.10.1; Xcode installed.

I've installed macports 2.3.3 with no problems; I've installed port hypermail 
with no 'apparent' problem. I've followed the MacPorts Guide every step of the 
way.

My first question is this: The install of the hypermail port gives:

jeromes-Mac-mini:bin jeromeschatten$ sudo port install hypermail

Warning: The Xcode Command Line Tools don't appear to be installed; most ports 
will likely fail to build.
Warning: Install them by running `xcode-select --install'.
---  Fetching archive for hypermail
---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2 from 
http://packages.macports.org/hypermail
---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2.rmd160 from 
http://packages.macports.org/hypermail
---  Installing hypermail @2.3.0_1
---  Activating hypermail @2.3.0_1
---  Cleaning hypermail
---  Updating database of binaries
---  Scanning binaries for linking errors
---  No broken files found.


But Xcode IS installed and the tools work as I've used them elsewhere. Is this 
a or is this not a problem?

Yes, MacPorts requires the Xcode command line tools, and Xcode. These are two 
separate installations, as of OS X 10.7 Lion.



If it's not a problem, then at this point, I should be able to launch the 
hypermail binary with a './hypermail' and it should run. But it doesn't. The 
cursor simply moves to the next line and it sits there. No error messages, 
nothing.

I looked at the hypermail and xcode process with top and it reports:
PID   COMMAND  %CPU  TIME #TH  #WQ  #PORT MEMPURG CMPR PGRP
[...]
1435  hypermail   0.0   00:00.001015 604K   0B 0B   
1435

1404  Xcode0.0   00:02.2681249 66M72K   0B  
 1404

So, it doesn't look like hypermail is doing much and Xcode is indeed there.

Xcode does not need to be running to use MacPorts, it just needs to be 
installed, as do the separate Xcode command line tools.

You didn't get an error while installing hypermail, so I would not suspect 
absence of the Xcode command line tools to have been a problem in this 
particular case. But you should install them to prevent future problems with 
other ports.





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Re: hypermail port problem

2015-01-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:31 AM, jerome schatten wrote:

 *S*ystem: MacMini -- late 2014 - Yosemite 10.10.1; Xcode installed.
 
 I've installed macports 2.3.3 with no problems; I've installed port hypermail 
 with no 'apparent' problem. I've followed the MacPorts Guide every step of 
 the way.
 
 My first question is this: The install of the hypermail port gives:
 
 jeromes-Mac-mini:bin jeromeschatten$ sudo port install hypermail
 
 Warning: The Xcode Command Line Tools don't appear to be installed; most 
 ports will likely fail to build.
 Warning: Install them by running `xcode-select --install'.
 ---  Fetching archive for hypermail
 ---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2 from 
 http://packages.macports.org/hypermail
 ---  Attempting to fetch hypermail-2.3.0_1.darwin_14.x86_64.tbz2.rmd160 from 
 http://packages.macports.org/hypermail
 ---  Installing hypermail @2.3.0_1
 ---  Activating hypermail @2.3.0_1
 ---  Cleaning hypermail
 ---  Updating database of binaries
 ---  Scanning binaries for linking errors
 ---  No broken files found.
 
 
 But Xcode IS installed and the tools work as I've used them elsewhere. Is 
 this a or is this not a problem?

Yes, MacPorts requires the Xcode command line tools, and Xcode. These are two 
separate installations, as of OS X 10.7 Lion.


 If it's not a problem, then at this point, I should be able to launch the 
 hypermail binary with a './hypermail' and it should run. But it doesn't. The 
 cursor simply moves to the next line and it sits there. No error messages, 
 nothing.
 
 I looked at the hypermail and xcode process with top and it reports:
 PID   COMMAND  %CPU  TIME #TH  #WQ  #PORT MEMPURG CMPR PGRP
 [...]
 1435  hypermail   0.0   00:00.001015 604K   0B 0B 
   1435
 
 1404  Xcode0.0   00:02.2681249 66M72K   
 0B   1404
 
 So, it doesn't look like hypermail is doing much and Xcode is indeed there.

Xcode does not need to be running to use MacPorts, it just needs to be 
installed, as do the separate Xcode command line tools.

You didn't get an error while installing hypermail, so I would not suspect 
absence of the Xcode command line tools to have been a problem in this 
particular case. But you should install them to prevent future problems with 
other ports.


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