Re: Idle (Python) on OS X Mavericks
On 28 May 2014, at 07:40, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 53854428.7000...@macports.org, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote: Ok, I’ve got python2.7 and 3.4 from Macports installed. I’m trying to use idle but the error printed is: ** IDLE can’t import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for tk ** I also installed the py34-tkinter port as I believe this port contains the required libraries for Idle. The same error is printed. Could it be a $PATH issue or missing libraries issue or both? PATH is currently set to: /Users/jamie/bin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/Users/jamie /bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/opt/X11/bi n:/usr/texbin Some repetition of directories but that shouldn’t cause a problem (I don’t think) Would anyone be able to offer some advice/info? How are you starting IDLE? I just installed python34 and py34-tkinter and double-clicking on /Applications/MacPorts/Python 3.4/IDLE.app works fine. (If you want to run /Applications/MacPorts/Python 2.7/IDLE.app then of course you would need py27-tkinter.) Also what port variant of tk are you using? The quartz variant has open issues for 10.9.x and Xcode 5.1: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/42850 (ping!) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org Hi sorry to have wasted your time, it was a few simple but stupid errors on my part. I needed the correct tkinter library for the python I'm using and a few environment variables. Thank you both for your help anyway. Jamie ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Warning When Using OpenDNS
On 22 May 2014, at 14:46, Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net wrote: On May 22, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: With OpenDNS it will probably not cause issues, but often providers do the same thing to their customers and return an IP address at their data center instead of the proper NXDOMAIN response. MacPorts then tries to find the fastest mirror out of a set of mirrors by selecting the server with the lowest ping response time. If your provider is providing the bogus DNS answers it is usually the fastest, gets selected and downloads fail. The OpenDNS servers are probably not the fastest to ping, though. they might be (they have a bunch of 'good' anycasted locations that make them close to a lot of people), but I'm not sure how poorly they interact with macports Also note that you can disable this behavior in OpenDNS' control panel. if you use OpenDNS, you should disable this (you can leave all of the other stuff enabled). In their dashboard it's Settings - Advanced Setting - Domain Typos - Enable type correction (and NX Domain redirection) You want that turned off. For a dynamic IP connection, you then also want to enable Dynamic IP Update and install the opendns client (to make sure you keep your settings when your IP changes). The google dns servers don't do NXDOMAIN redirection, so they're a reasonable alternative also (if there's some reason why you don't want to use your ISP's nameserver). You could also run your own local recursive caching resolver (unbound and bind9 are both available in macports). -- Daniel J. Luke +== I have been using my own name servers and mail servers but I've got fed up with bothering tbh. I came across opendns a fee days ago just thought I'd try it out. They claimed it would speed up my browsing and also add a layer of protection from malware etc. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: X windows and applications advice
On 20 May 2014, at 22:18, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Gustavo Seabra gustavo.sea...@gmail.com wrote: On May 20, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: And in case it's not clear, XQuartz is the same software that's available in MacPorts in the xorg-* ports. The versions in MacPorts are just usually a little bit newer. I prefer to install X11 with MacPorts for this reason, and because there will be less duplication of files. OK, in this case, what are the advantages (if any) of using XQuartz? I find it useful to be able to upgrade MacPorts without having to worry about disturbing X11, since I can more easily upgrade it separately. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmail.com ballb...@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonadhttp://sinenomine.net I had XQuartz installed. I hadn't logged in and out (maybe irrelevant) but I simply deleted by selecting moving to trash. Is that all that's needed to get rid of it? I'm gunna build macports version. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: X windows and applications advice
On 21 May 2014, at 11:12, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On May 21, 2014, at 04:50, James Griffin wrote: I had XQuartz installed. I hadn't logged in and out (maybe irrelevant) but I simply deleted by selecting moving to trash. Is that all that's needed to get rid of it? I'm gunna build macports version. I don't know. Did you check if XQuartz publishes an uninstall script, or uninstall instructions? If you had informed launchd that you want to use XQuartz as your display, you'll have to tell launchd to stop doing that. You may instead want to tell it to use the MacPorts version. I'll check for launchd stuff. I did try to find an uninstall script but nowt there. The macports install is pulling in texlive but I've already got mactex installed so not sure why it needs to do that. I suppose I could just stick with the macports texlive instead of the tug.org package. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
X windows and applications advice
Hi everyone, I wanted to run some xterms earlier and found I needed to install XQuartz. Then I remembered (possibly incorrectly) that I could use X11 built using Macports. Would you say using the X11 implementation is better in terms of using and availability of X applications, many of which I will install using Macports? I mean, the applications from Macports, are they able to be used on XQuartz X server, I'm guessing they can be. I'm not experienced with X11 on Mac computers really so I apologise if this is a silly question. Thanks, Jamie. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: X windows and applications advice
On 20 May 2014, at 22:18, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Gustavo Seabra gustavo.sea...@gmail.com wrote: On May 20, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: And in case it's not clear, XQuartz is the same software that's available in MacPorts in the xorg-* ports. The versions in MacPorts are just usually a little bit newer. I prefer to install X11 with MacPorts for this reason, and because there will be less duplication of files. OK, in this case, what are the advantages (if any) of using XQuartz? I find it useful to be able to upgrade MacPorts without having to worry about disturbing X11, since I can more easily upgrade it separately. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmail.com ballb...@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonadhttp://sinenomine.net ___ Ok looks like I'm ditching XQuartz and building macports' version. Helpful info, thanks everyone. Jamie ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Launch Daemon Script For Clamav
Ok thanks, I'll try that port. Jamie. Sent from my iPhone On 12 May 2014, at 16:46, Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net wrote: On May 12, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin jp...@icloud.com wrote: I've reinstalled Clamav after not using it for a while and I'm wondering about getting it initiated on system-startup. I've looked but don't see a launchd script like the there used to be. So I guess my questions are should there be one and if so, where can I get it? Any help would be great. Thanks very much. you probably want to install the clamav-server port. -- Daniel J. Luke ++ | * dl...@geeklair.net * | | *-- http://www.geeklair.net -* | ++ | Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily | | reflect the opinions of my employer. | ++ ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Broken perl configuration
- Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net [2013-02-21 11:46:29 -0500] - : ... Nope, but in general MacPorts (or any package management system) works best when you 'buy in' and just use it for all your install management. This is absolutely good advice. If you start to use Macports, simply use Macports for all of your software needs and installations, rather than installing things manually - it only leads to problems. I found that out the hard way when I stopped using Dovecot from Macports and decided to upgrade the Mac OS OX version, and spamassassin, and mutt. Everything became a mess. Had I just stuck to using Macports for all of these installations I wouldn't have had any of the headaches I experienced when trying to fix things. For example: if you are using a FreeBSD system or a Linux system, hardly anyone bothers to build and install source code themselves. They just use the package management system that comes with the OS. This is the same principle. It ensure that software is compiled correctly for the platform, that libraries and dependencies are configured and installed correctly, etc. -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: UNIX commands font
- Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org [2013-02-13 21:53:16 -0500] - : On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote: Do modern BSDs tend to default to another shell? sh and maybe tcsh - no bash included on most BSDs AFAIK unless it's from ports. Huh. I don't recall having to use tcsh the last time I used FreeBSD, but I very well might have installed zsh from ports during the installation process, avoiding the default shell entirely. Yes, FreeBSD defaults to csh which is a link to tcsh; OpenBSD which is my primary platform uses ksh or rather their own modified pdksh. They have incorporated some bash-like things. NetBSD defaults to sh, but you can choose other shells, either csh or ksh - bash is not included in the default installation. -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: UNIX commands font
- Eneko Gotzon Ares enekogot...@gmail.com [2013-02-13 23:25:53 +0100] - : I'm start learning UNIX. Please, is there a canonical way, may be a font, for write UNIX commands among normal text? Thanks! -- Eneko Gotzon Ares When I got my first Mac, I wanted to learn UNIX. I bought some excellent books published by O'Reilly, which focus on the UNIX subsystem of Mac OS X. I can recommend these books or others like it. That's the best way. Also first thing to learn is the shell. Read the man pages and get some books specific to the shell you are going to use. ksh is my preferred shell, bash is probably used more. -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: question about frequency of updates
- Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org [2013-02-12 14:52:17 -0600] - : On Feb 12, 2013, at 14:13, Comer Duncan wrote: I am wondering whether I might put in a task in launchd to automatically do something like 'sudo port selfupdate; sudo port upgrade outdated' ? Or should I just make a reminder to run these by hand occasionally? I would like it if the macport distribution would be reasonably self-updating...since I tend to forget. We're not very automatically-updating at the moment unfortunately. It's probably a better idea to set a reminder to do it yourself manually every month or two, because ports will often print messages that you need to read and act upon. Personally, I'd say updating once a month is sufficient. That's the frequency I update myself anyway. Jamie -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Side effects?
* Ian Wadham iandw...@gmail.com [2013-01-31 14:34:06 +1100]: BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI? Cheers, Ian W. My feeling is that Macports doesn't need a GUI. Using the command-line is part of the fun. When I got my first Mac I spent literally all of my computing time on it using the Terminal. I bought some books specific to the UNIX subsystem of Mac OS X and that's the reason I became addicted to UNIX systems. If Apple ever decided to remove the access to the UNIX subsystem I'd stop using Mac's completely. Bit OT there, sorry :-) I can understand, though, why some people might find a Macports GUI helpful. But personally I'd never use it. -- Primary Key: 4096R/1D31DC38 2011-12-03 Key Fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
