Advertising KDE4 on OSX/MacPorts ( was Re: MacPorts usage statistics )
Hi James, On 09 Dec 2014, at 01:49 , James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote: That calls for a bit of lobbying -- or maybe a survey how many MacPorts users were aware of the port's existence. If one uses say a KDE Desktop how does that affect native aqua applications (any apps that don’t use X11/Quartz) on OSX/MacPorts you would NOT run a real KDE desktop, but rather get all KDE4 applications running natively on your Mac _without_ X11/Quartz, i.e. by using Aqua! We’re trying to keep the user experience as close as possible to a Linux-based KDE desktop installation, see e.g. René’s port kde4-workspace [1]. It allows to run the KDE “System Settings” utility which can configure KDE for instance regarding the standard theme used by all KDE applications. This is an important point, since the default “Macintosh (aqua)” theme results in weird layout errors [2] and it is recommended on OSX to use the qtcurve theme instead [3]. Check out our list of current KDE problems on the MacPorts wiki [4] and perhaps join the KDE-MAC mailing list [5] if you need support. Having said that, you can always post any KDE4-related question also here on MacPorts-Users, as the KDE-MAC folks are all MacPorts guys anyways. :) It could be, that [5] isn’t very up to date these days, as all KDE-MAC contributors are very actively working on a variety of issues currently. There’s more stuff on KDE’s Review Board [6] and on KDE’s bug tracker [7]. Last but not least, check out our initial wiki page at [8] if you want to know what’s up next! Join us! :-) Greets, Marko [1] https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/kde/kde4-workspace/Portfile [2] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDEProblems/KDETickets#MajorlayoutissuesonOSX [3] https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/kde/qtcurve/Portfile?rev=126006 [4] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDEProblems/KDETickets [5] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-mac/ [6] https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/dashboard/?group=kde-macview=to-group [7] https://bugs.kde.org/ [8] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDEProblems ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Advertising KDE4 on OSX/MacPorts ( was Re: MacPorts usage statistics )
For completeness I have just added the information about QtCurve also on our main MacPorts/KDE wiki page [1]. [1] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDE ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Advertising KDE4 on OSX/MacPorts ( was Re: MacPorts usage statistics )
James, sorry for my incorrectness: I have to replace “theme” by “style” in my original post, as I did already on [1,2]. Greets, Marko [1] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDE [2] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDEProblems/KDETickets ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Advertising KDE4 on OSX/MacPorts ( was Re: MacPorts usage statistics )
On 09 Dec 2014, at 09:42, Marko Käning mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote: James, sorry for my incorrectness: I have to replace “theme” by “style” in my original post, as I did already on [1,2]. Actually, KDE uses both terms ... Greets, Marko [1] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDE [2] https://trac.macports.org/wiki/KDEProblems/KDETickets ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: MacPorts usage statistics
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:09 AM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote: I'm user #52 And I #53. -- Eneko Gotzon Ares ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: MacPorts usage statistics
On 9 Dec 2014, at 4:00 am, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: In a sense we'd need a survey of which KDE4 ports are installed and in active use! On MacPorts you mean? Indeed. Well, there is Clemens' mpstats project [1], but the number of users contributing is still very small. That calls for a bit of lobbying -- or maybe a survey how many MacPorts users were aware of the port's existence. If one uses say a KDE Desktop how does that affect native aqua applications (any apps that don’t use X11/Quartz) Thanks James ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: MacPorts usage statistics
On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:32 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marko, In a sense we'd need a survey of which KDE4 ports are installed and in active use! On MacPorts you mean? Indeed. Well, there is Clemens' mpstats project [1], but the number of users contributing is still very small. That calls for a bit of lobbying -- or maybe a survey how many MacPorts users were aware of the port's existence. Not me in any case... I must concur. I never heard of mpstats or what appears to be a related project. (I also don't do LINUX as such, but am a retired OSF/1 - OSX SysAdmin.) And now that I have seen it mentioned, If one looks it up in the list of Available Ports all one finds is one-sentence: submit statistics about your macports installation If one then Googles mpstats, Wikipedia tells us: mpstat is a computer command-line software used in unix-type operating systems to report (on the screen) processor related statistics. It is used in computer monitoring in order to diagnose problems or to build statistics about a computer's CPU usage. And the various other hits provided by Google imply a Linux CPU monitoring tool. And just to confuse things: in 10.10, man -k mpstat yields: snmpstatus(1)- retrieves a fixed set of management information from a network entity Checking out the MacPorts wiki - https://trac.macports.org/wiki - there is no mention of mpstats. however if one uses the search entry on that page, one does find: MacPorts Port Statistics Ideas (last modified 9 months ago.) And then finally, when one does install mpstats, all one sees is: Installing this port automatically enables weekly reporting of data to the stats server. Uninstall or deactivate this port if you want to stop providing data to MacPorts. It apparently installs cleanly under macports version 2.3.3. sudo port install mpstats Activating mpstats @0.1.6_0 But no information/discussion on contacting the server beyond the initial test server -- The implication being that this is not ready for prime time. So, being a sucker for statics on stuff, I guess I'm user #52. :) T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.93GHz - 8 GB 1067MHz] OS X 10.10.1 # Macmini6,1 Intel Core i5 [2.5 Ghz - 4GB 1600MHz] OS X 10.10.1 OSX Server (now dead) mag...@icloud.com mag...@mac.com whmag...@gmail.com ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
