Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Dec 19, 2013, at 13:31 , Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:19:14AM -0800, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: Clemens: can trace mode be set in macports.conf? No, currently not. Other than performance overhead, would there be any reason to not enable it by default? Cheers, Landon signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
Hi, On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:51:43AM -0500, Landon Fuller wrote: Other than performance overhead, would there be any reason to not enable it by default? some ports, suchs as the go port, can not build with trace mode enabled. they need DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES to be empty or rely on other implementation details of the linker (such as not calling malloc(3)). -- Clemens Lang ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:52:52AM +0800, James Linder wrote: I hate answers that are opinions without justifing If you are aware and technical enough to avoid the pitfalls then it's easy and works well It will be easier to avoid the pitfalls after the next MacPorts release (or now, when running trunk) by using trace mode (port -t ...) for everything. It does add a little performance overhead, but it effectively ensures a build doesn't see any files installed in /usr/local or any other non-standard location. I've been running this configuration for weeks for every installation and update I've attempted and it works pretty well for me. -- Clemens Lang ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:17 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:52:52AM +0800, James Linder wrote: I hate answers that are opinions without justifing If you are aware and technical enough to avoid the pitfalls then it's easy and works well It will be easier to avoid the pitfalls after the next MacPorts release (or now, when running trunk) by using trace mode (port -t ...) for everything. It does add a little performance overhead, but it effectively ensures a build doesn't see any files installed in /usr/local or any other non-standard location. I've been running this configuration for weeks for every installation and update I've attempted and it works pretty well for me. Clemens: can trace mode be set in macports.conf? Regards, Bradley Giesbrecht (pixilla) ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:19:14AM -0800, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: Clemens: can trace mode be set in macports.conf? No, currently not. -- Clemens Lang ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: macports-users Digest, Vol 77, Issue 1: Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
Sorry for the necro-bump, but the other day I decided to check up on what was new in Homebrew-land, and it turns out that `brew cask` actually lets you install MacPorts itself as of https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask/commit/9ab24161369f1652604f780df0e58733c11889c0 This was the pull request for it: https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask/pull/1845 Do we want to support people installing MacPorts in this way? On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: Send macports-users mailing list submissions to macports-users@lists.macosforge.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org You can reach the person managing the list at macports-users-ow...@lists.macosforge.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of macports-users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Happy New Year and Congrats on a work well done (Rodolfo Aramayo) 2. phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts (Markus Neuenschwander) 3. Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts (Phil Dobbin) 4. Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts (Ryan Schmidt) 5. Re: Happy New Year and Congrats on a work well done (Ryan Schmidt) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:08:00 -0600 From: Rodolfo Aramayo raram...@gmail.com Subject: Happy New Year and Congrats on a work well done To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org Message-id: cakhancqoawjru2qx+y75xompn0lmctv8u3xhtpyt8duknt7...@mail.gmail.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Boundary_(ID_xOJGdK4YpRR3vdXnRWOgrw) Precedence: list Message: 1 --Boundary_(ID_xOJGdK4YpRR3vdXnRWOgrw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To All MacPorts Gurus out there (you know who you are) Thank You for a work well done and my best wishes for the upcoming year --Rodolfo --Boundary_(ID_xOJGdK4YpRR3vdXnRWOgrw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To All MacPorts Gurus out there (you know who you are)brbrThank You for a work well done and my best wishes for the upcoming yearbrbr clear=alldiv--Rodolfobr/div --Boundary_(ID_xOJGdK4YpRR3vdXnRWOgrw)-- MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 09:13:50 +0100 From: Markus Neuenschwander guanoape...@gmx.ch Subject: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org Message-id: 50e29abe.9050...@gmx.ch MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 2 I switched back to MacPorts, because brew have to less packaged software. Now found an interesting project about native GUI applications. https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask#readme Can I install both on my MacBook Air? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 08:24:51 + From: Phil Dobbin phildob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts In-reply-to: 50e29abe.9050...@gmx.ch To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org Reply-to: phildob...@gmail.com Message-id: 50e29d53.8040...@gmail.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=enigE24EFA99BA43E3672BBBADCC Precedence: list Message: 3 References: 50e29abe.9050...@gmx.ch This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --enigE24EFA99BA43E3672BBBADCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/01/2013 08:13 AM, Markus Neuenschwander wrote: I switched back to MacPorts, because brew have to less packaged software. Now found an interesting project about native GUI application= s. =20 https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask#readme =20 Can I install both on my MacBook Air? I wouldn't recommend having both Mac Ports homebrew (cask or otherwise) installed in regular use at the same time on the same machin= e. For more info on the subject, check the list archives where you'll find plenty of advice (just search for homebrew and/or /usr/local). Cheers, Phil... --=20 currently (ab)using CentOS 5.8 6.3, Debian Squeeze Wheezy, Fedora Beefy Spherical, Lubuntu 12.10, OS X Snow Leopard Ubuntu Precise Quantal --enigE24EFA99BA43E3672BBBADCC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE
Re: macports-users Digest, Vol 77, Issue 1: Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:00:51AM -0500, Eric Gallager wrote: Sorry for the necro-bump, but the other day I decided to check up on what was new in Homebrew-land, and it turns out that `brew cask` actually lets you install MacPorts itself as of https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask/commit/9ab24161369f1652604f780df0e58733c11889c0 This was the pull request for it: https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask/pull/1845 Do we want to support people installing MacPorts in this way? This doesn't ensure Xcode and the command line tools are installed and the license has been accepted, but other than that it's really just a headless way of installing our .pkg, so I fail to see what's different in this case. Other than that, I honestly don't care. -- Clemens Lang ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On 19/12/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: I switched back to MacPorts, because brew have to less packaged software. Now found an interesting project about native GUI application= s. =20 https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask#readme =20 Can I install both on my MacBook Air? I wouldn't recommend having both Mac Ports homebrew (cask or otherwise) installed in regular use at the same time on the same machin= e. For more info on the subject, check the list archives where you'll find plenty of advice (just search for homebrew and/or /usr/local). I hate answers that are opinions without justifing If you are aware and technical enough to avoid the pitfalls then it's easy and works well else It's a bad idea as each install can use bits (eg libs) from the other resulting in utterly baffling errors that the people trying to help are confused by. If all works then good. If all does not work don't ask for help - it wastes time from the kindly folk who try to help. James ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On 01/01/2013 08:13 AM, Markus Neuenschwander wrote: I switched back to MacPorts, because brew have to less packaged software. Now found an interesting project about native GUI applications. https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask#readme Can I install both on my MacBook Air? I wouldn't recommend having both Mac Ports homebrew (cask or otherwise) installed in regular use at the same time on the same machine. For more info on the subject, check the list archives where you'll find plenty of advice (just search for homebrew and/or /usr/local). Cheers, Phil... -- currently (ab)using CentOS 5.8 6.3, Debian Squeeze Wheezy, Fedora Beefy Spherical, Lubuntu 12.10, OS X Snow Leopard Ubuntu Precise Quantal signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: phinze/homebrew-cask on the same system like MacPorts
On Jan 1, 2013, at 02:13, Markus Neuenschwander guanoape...@gmx.ch wrote: I switched back to MacPorts, because brew have to less packaged software. Now found an interesting project about native GUI applications. https://github.com/phinze/homebrew-cask#readme Can I install both on my MacBook Air? I'm not familiar with Homebrew, and I don't know what Cask is, but according to that web page, A Cask is like a Formula in Homebrew except it describes how to download and install a binary application. In MacPorts there is no distinction; a port will install a binary if it is available, otherwise it will build from source. There's no need for you as a user to decide one way or the other. MacPorts will automatically install ports the best way. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users