Re: Tears and Wailing

2014-02-17 Thread David Strubbe
In this context, what would clutch dagga between teeth and climb to top of
tower mean...?


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Landon J Fuller land...@macports.orgwrote:


 On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:42 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

  I don't like mavericks spaces ...

 This is a non-MacPorts aside, but I highly recommend:
 http://totalspaces.binaryage.com

 If you also disable Displays have separate Spaces in System Preferences
 - Mission Control, everything works like it used to.

 I have no idea why Apple so completely broke their virtual desktop
 implementation for those of us that very much liked spatial virtual
 desktops, but this fixes it, for now.

 -landonf



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Re: Tears and Wailing

2014-02-17 Thread James Linder

On 18 Feb 2014, at 12:29 am, David Strubbe dstru...@gmail.com wrote:

 In this context, what would clutch dagga between teeth and climb to top of 
 tower mean…?

This is an expression of ultimate hopelessness and dispair, the implication 
being to jump from the tower. That said Brandon gave me a huge amount of help 
and guidance so that at dusk with the light behind me (Gilbert  Sullivan) I 
could almost say I like mavericks, and in particular all my macports are 
working correctly :-)
James

 
 
 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Landon J Fuller land...@macports.org wrote:
 
 On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:42 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 
 I don't like mavericks spaces ...
 
 This is a non-MacPorts aside, but I highly recommend:
http://totalspaces.binaryage.com
 
 If you also disable Displays have separate Spaces in System Preferences - 
 Mission Control, everything works like it used to.
 
 I have no idea why Apple so completely broke their virtual desktop 
 implementation for those of us that very much liked spatial virtual desktops, 
 but this fixes it, for now.
 
 -landonf
 
 
 
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Tears and Wailing

2014-02-14 Thread James Linder

Preamble:
I had an iMac 27 running Snow Leopard with Macports - happy for years
I wanted to do some android and ios stuff with Qt so I needed Qt5 which 
needs Mavericks
I installed mavericks and all was good for a while but then eg 
gnome-terminal would not run
I don't like mavericks spaces, their mail (thanks for comments Ryan, but 
it is still not right), also my linux boxen and mavericks would not play 
together with printing (much spelunking and CUPS fiddling).

So I reinstalled snowleopard but the certificates for xcode have expired
So I bit the bullet and reinstalled maverics

Now:
Everything worked ...
I tried to (including the dbus stuff) install gnome-terminal
No Error
gnome-terminal wont start
now NONE of the X11 things (gnuplot, xsane) will start

I removed macports and all trace of macport files as per the docs

I reinstalled mackports and built gnuplot, xorg-server, wget, xsane

both xsane and gnuplot just hang (yes I did log out)

Short of clutch dagga between teeth and climb to top of tower can 
anybody lend me a suggestion please.


PS qt apps build and display without issue and mythfrontend works fine too.
(I thought that they did use X11)

James
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Re: Tears and Wailing

2014-02-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

 So I bit the bullet and reinstalled maverics

 Now:
 Everything worked ...
 I tried to (including the dbus stuff) install gnome-terminal
 No Error
 gnome-terminal wont start
 now NONE of the X11 things (gnuplot, xsane) will start


http://xquartz.macosforge.org ? (or see the xinit port to configure xquartz
via macports instead)


 PS qt apps build and display without issue and mythfrontend works fine too.
 (I thought that they did use X11)


I thought qt4-x11 had been purged because of severe bitrot. qt4-mac is
Aqua, not X11.

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Re: Tears and Wailing

2014-02-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:41 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

 Brandon thanks so much for the help. Why xset -b is a problem I dunno, but
 removing it from .profile fixed my issues with X11 not running. I have now
 got the XQuartz dmg, not the macports version, dunno if that is significant
 but all is working


.profile?! That'd be bad, yes, since it's getting run as part of the setup
for X server startup, and the xset causes X server startup, which runs
xset, which tries to start the X server, ... see the problem?

If you want to run it during X startup, create an executable script
~/.xinitrc.d/99xset.sh:

#! /bin/sh
xset -b

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