Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
MacPorts is by nature not just one thing. There's the "port" command, related 
commands, the  structure of Portfiles; there's the servers that deliver up both 
pre-built executables AND whether for lack of capacity to pre-build or because 
certain ports need to be locally built, may also deliver packaged source that 
builds locally. All of that and maybe more is MacPorts itself.

And then there's the individual ports. Those are maintained (or sometimes not) 
by different people, and very dependent on the "upstream" supplier of the 
project, who may not always accept patches specific to make it work on a Mac 
(let alone older macOS versions), so that port may have to have and apply its 
own patches, which adds delay between upstream update and port update.

Even IF there was one vision of what MacPorts should do, that's quite a lot and 
although it really tries, CANNOT guarantee consistent results on everything for 
everyone - nothing can, and esp. nothing with mostly unpaid volunteers can 
(although I think Apple provides the servers).

Taking all that into account (and I'm NOT part of the "team" just another user, 
so some of that may not be 100% accurate), you might consider clarifying just 
what you want.

Doubtless brew and fink also have some difficulties getting everything just 
right (modulo different opinions of what "just right" might be). So you might 
find that you'll NEVER be happy. If that turns out to be the case, it might be 
your expectations rather than anyone else's performance needs to be 
re-evaluated.

> On Mar 27, 2022, at 09:25, Michele Venturi  wrote:
> 
> That's what I said and anyway I repeat for the nth time
> to people that doesn't want to know it: it's YOUR stuff,
> YOU should know what it is, I'm not here to tell you what
> to do you with it, this just a friendly reminder to decide...
> 
> Il dom 27 mar 2022, 01:42 Ryan Schmidt  > ha scritto:
> On Mar 26, 2022, at 00:48, Michele Venturi wrote:
> 
> > As usual this project too is a mess because everyone has a different idea 
> > of what it is,has been and will be.
> 
> If you have constructive criticism for changes that should be made, feel free 
> to start discussions about them. Otherwise you may be happier using something 
> else.
> 

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Older versions of python

2022-03-27 Thread dan d.



-- ent- XR
Can one delete older python versions then the current python10?  Do some ports 
anticipate an older version?

Thanks


Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-27 Thread Michele Venturi
That's what I said and anyway I repeat for the nth time
to people that doesn't want to know it: it's YOUR stuff,
YOU should know what it is, I'm not here to tell you what
to do you with it, this just a friendly reminder to decide...

Il dom 27 mar 2022, 01:42 Ryan Schmidt  ha scritto:

> On Mar 26, 2022, at 00:48, Michele Venturi wrote:
>
> > As usual this project too is a mess because everyone has a different
> idea of what it is,has been and will be.
>
> If you have constructive criticism for changes that should be made, feel
> free to start discussions about them. Otherwise you may be happier using
> something else.
>
>