Re: Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[chilli.names...@gmail.com]

I've been debating about responding because I don't know the particulars of 
your migration. But in my experience working in IT for more than 2 decades is 
that it is almost always better to manually migrate rather than use Apple's 
Migration Assistant. 

First, consider what the Migration Assistant is doing... it is duplicating your 
user accounts, copying third party applications, and the user settings in 
~/Library. That is all it is doing, and it is absurd how long it takes to do 
these seemingly simple tasks. 

Rhetoricals: 

Are there a dozen distinct user accounts? Or is it a single account? 

How many applications are migrating? Are these Applications that required an 
installer and have kernel extensions, or are they just bundles that install 
with drag and drop?

How vital or unreplaceable are these applications' user settings? 



My recommendation is to start with a clean install of macOS with a mind towards 
the next migration. Create your user account. If you are the sole user, create 
an ~/Applications folder in your home folder, and install every drag and drop 
application that you use there (this only works if it is a single user on the 
machine, as other users won't have access to your user folders). One by one, 
reinstall the applications that require an installer and need to live in 
/Applications.  Manually copy your documents over, which is easy if they all 
live in ~/Documents. If you really need the settings... you can manually copy 
your entire ~/Library over:

(on new system) 
sudo rm -rf ~/Library

sudo cp -vpn  /Volumes/old.machine.in.target.mode/Users/you/Library   ~/Library

sudo chown -R you:Staff ~/Library

But it is better to leave your old ~/Library behind and as you use your 
applications on the new system, manually restore your settings and preferences 
on the fly. The pain doesn't last forever.

Reinstall XCode. 
Reinstall macports from scratch. 
On the old system, run

port requested > temp.txt

Use this created text file as a guide to restore all your ports, and consider 
editing the file into an macports install script, just a list of install 
commands for each port you had requested before, and run it. 

Sync your browser bookmarks to the cloud, then resync them down to the new 
system's browser, or export bookmarks to a file and import them to the new 
browser.


Then the next time you migrate, after creating a new account and logging in on 
your new hardware, put one machine in target disk mode and copy and replace the 
new user directories with your previous user directories, wholesale, which if 
you created an Applications folder in there, this will neatly reinstall all 
your applications that did not require an installer, bring over all your 
documents and settings, and much much faster than Migration Assistant. Then 
reinstall the applications that require the installer. Reinstall XCode and 
macports and repeat the requested command as a map, and reinstall all your 
ports.

Hang on to the old system, for a time, until your production is back up and 
solid.

The next migration will be easier because it is mostly just copying your user 
directories in one go, reinstalling a few other applications, reinstalling 
XCode, macports, and individual ports.

I guarantee you far better performance on the new system by rebuilding it like 
this rather than using Migration Assistant, and the migration itself will take 
far less time.

Best of luck.



> On Jul 31, 2022, at 17:51, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I must have made an error (probably with the way I sync work across 
> systems).
> 
> G
> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2022, at 16:13, Joshua Root  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There hasn't been a base release recently, so that output is completely 
>>> expected when updating the base sources. There should be some more output 
>>> involving "--->  Updating the ports tree" which, if you have an rsync-based 
>>> source configured in sources.conf, will run additional rsync commands to 
>>> update ports.tar and PortIndex. That worked for me when I tried it just now.
>>> 
>>> Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>> 
>>> Because after finishing it still said ‘more than two weeks old please 
>>> update’, and it downloaded not more than 50-60 bytes
>>> 
>>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
>>> R Enterprise Architecture  (main site)
>>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
>>> 
>>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate 
>>> 
>>> >/On 31 Jul 2022, at 11:58, Chris Jones >> >> wrote: 
>>> >/>//>//>//>>/On 31 Jul 2022, at 9:05 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>>> >>> >> wrote: 
>>> >/>>//>>/ />>/gerben at hermione 
>>> > 
>>> >macports-ports % sudo port -v selfupdate />>/---> Updating 

Re: Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[Gerben Wierda via macports-users]

I think I must have made an error (probably with the way I sync work across 
systems).

G

> On 31 Jul 2022, at 16:13, Joshua Root  wrote:
> 
> There hasn't been a base release recently, so that output is completely 
> expected when updating the base sources. There should be some more output 
> involving "--->  Updating the ports tree" which, if you have an rsync-based 
> source configured in sources.conf, will run additional rsync commands to 
> update ports.tar and PortIndex. That worked for me when I tried it just now.
> 
> Gerben Wierda wrote:
> 
>> Because after finishing it still said ‘more than two weeks old please 
>> update’, and it downloaded not more than 50-60 bytes
>> 
>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
>> R Enterprise Architecture  (main site)
>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
>> 
>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate 
>> 
>> >/On 31 Jul 2022, at 11:58, Chris Jones > >> wrote: 
>> >/>//>//>//>>/On 31 Jul 2022, at 9:05 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>> >> >> wrote: 
>> >/>>//>>/ />>/gerben at hermione 
>> > macports-ports 
>> >% sudo port -v selfupdate />>/---> Updating MacPorts base sources using 
>> >rsync />>//>>/Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de 
>> >. />>/Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync 
>> >verfuegbar. />>//>>/Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de 
>> >. />>/Not all of our mirrors are available through 
>> >rsync. />>//>>//>>/receiving file list ... done />>//>>/sent 16 bytes 
>> >received 55 bytes 142.00 bytes/sec />>/total size is 85861888 speedup is 
>> >1209322.37 />>//>>/Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de 
>> >. />>/Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync 
>> >verfuegbar. />>//>>/Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de 
>> >. />>/Not all of our mirrors are available through 
>> >rsync. />>//>>//>>/receiving file list ... done />>//>>/sent 16 bytes 
>> >received 62 bytes 52.00 bytes/sec/
> 

Re: Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Joshua Root]

On 2022-8-1 03:27 , Murray Eisenberg wrote:
In a message posted already in this list’s archives but not yet 
appearing in the batched emails I receive from the list, Johsua Root writes:


“ … the 'macports’ user… should be as unprivileged as possible, and thus not a 
member of any groups other than its own.

"TBH, the easiest fix is probably to delete the 'macports' user and group, and let 
them be recreated by the installer during step 2 of the Migration process."

How does one, in fact, delete the ‘macports’ user and group before 
letting them be recreated by the installer during Step 2 of the MacPorts 
migration process?


(I note that no user ‘macports’ shows in System Preferences > Users & 
Groups even though user ‘macports’ appears on the macOS login screen.)


The correct dscl commands can be found in section 2.4.2 of the MacPorts 
Guide: 



- Josh

Re: Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

[Jim Secan]

Yes.  Appears to be working OK.  Had two ports not build (netcdf-fortran and 
antlr), both with existing tickets, and neither critical to my routine needs.

Jim
Seattle, WA
> On Jul 31, 2022, at 2:09 AM, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?
> 
> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn)
> R IT Strategy (main site)
> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture
> Book: Mastering ArchiMate
> 

Re: Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Murray Eisenberg]

In a message posted already in this list’s archives but not yet appearing in 
the batched emails I receive from the list, Johsua Root writes:

“ … the 'macports’ user… should be as unprivileged as possible, and 
thus not a member of any groups other than its own.

"TBH, the easiest fix is probably to delete the 'macports' user and 
group, and let them be recreated by the installer during step 2 of the 
Migration process."
How does one, in fact, delete the ‘macports’ user and group before letting them 
be recreated by the installer during Step 2 of the MacPorts migration process?

(I note that no user ‘macports’ shows in System Preferences > Users & Groups 
even though user ‘macports’ appears on the macOS login screen.)

> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:27 AM, Murray Eisenberg  
> wrote:
> 
> As follow-up:
> 
> What user group should macadmin belong to? During the migration I was asked 
> whether to use a temporary something-or-other for macports user or else to 
> make it part of the admin group. I did the latter.
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:01 AM, Murray Eisenberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> On an iMac I was running MacPorts 2.7.2 under macOS Monterey 12.5. I used 
>> the macOS Migration Assistant to migrate Documents and Settings from a Time 
>> Machine backup of that iMac to a new Mac Studio, also running macOS 12.5.
>> 
>> Now at the login screen I show a user MacPorts, but I do not see such user 
>> listed when, in my admin account, I use System Preferences > Users & Groups.
>> 
>> What, if anything, should be done?
>> 
>> (I do realize that I will want to do a migration of MacPorts itself on the 
>> new Mac Studio, not least because it is Apple silicon whereas the old iMac 
>> was Intel.)
>> 
>> Related: 
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/317576/how-to-delete-macports-user-after-using-the-migration-assistant
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/285710/is-it-possible-to-hide-an-account-from-the-login-screen-where-you-can-see-all-th
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> Mobile (413)-427-5334
>> 503 King Farm Blvd #101  
>> Rockville, MD 20850-6667 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> ---
> Murray Eisenberg  murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
> 
> Mobile (413)-427-5334
> 503 King Farm Blvd #101   
> Rockville, MD 20850-6667  
> 
> 
> 

---
Murray Eisenbergmurrayeisenb...@gmail.com
Mobile (413)-427-5334
503 King Farm Blvd #101 
Rockville, MD 20850-6667

Re: Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Murray Eisenberg]

Sorry, typo, I meant what group should the user MacPorts be in? 

> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:27 AM, Murray Eisenberg  > wrote:
> 
> As follow-up:
> 
> What user group should macadmin belong to? During the migration I was asked 
> whether to use a temporary something-or-other for macports user or else to 
> make it part of the admin group. I did the latter.
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:01 AM, Murray Eisenberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> On an iMac I was running MacPorts 2.7.2 under macOS Monterey 12.5. I used 
>> the macOS Migration Assistant to migrate Documents and Settings from a Time 
>> Machine backup of that iMac to a new Mac Studio, also running macOS 12.5.
>> 
>> Now at the login screen I show a user MacPorts, but I do not see such user 
>> listed when, in my admin account, I use System Preferences > Users & Groups.
>> 
>> What, if anything, should be done?
>> 
>> (I do realize that I will want to do a migration of MacPorts itself on the 
>> new Mac Studio, not least because it is Apple silicon whereas the old iMac 
>> was Intel.)
>> 
>> Related: 
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/317576/how-to-delete-macports-user-after-using-the-migration-assistant
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/285710/is-it-possible-to-hide-an-account-from-the-login-screen-where-you-can-see-all-th
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> Mobile (413)-427-5334
>> 503 King Farm Blvd #101  
>> Rockville, MD 20850-6667 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> ---
> Murray Eisenberg  murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
> 
> Mobile (413)-427-5334
> 503 King Farm Blvd #101   
> Rockville, MD 20850-6667  
> 
> 
> 

---
Murray Eisenbergmurrayeisenb...@gmail.com 

Mobile (413)-427-5334
503 King Farm Blvd #101 
Rockville, MD 20850-6667

Re: Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Joshua Root]

I don't know what 'macadmin' is. If you mean the 'macports' user, it should be 
as unprivileged as possible, and thus not a member of any groups other than its 
own.

TBH, the easiest fix is probably to delete the 'macports' user and group, and 
let them be recreated by the installer during step 2 of the Migration process.

- Josh

Murray Eisenberg wrote:


As follow-up:

What user group should macadmin belong to? During the migration I was asked 
whether to use a temporary something-or-other for macports user or else to make 
it part of the admin group. I did the latter.


> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:01 AM, Murray Eisenberg https://lists.macports.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users>  >> wrote:
> 
> On an iMac I was running MacPorts 2.7.2 under macOS Monterey 12.5. I used the macOS Migration Assistant to migrate Documents and Settings from a Time Machine backup of that iMac to a new Mac Studio, also running macOS 12.5.
> 
> Now at the login screen I show a user MacPorts, but I do not see such user listed when, in my admin account, I use System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 
> What, if anything, should be done?

Re: Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Murray Eisenberg]

As follow-up:

What user group should macadmin belong to? During the migration I was asked 
whether to use a temporary something-or-other for macports user or else to make 
it part of the admin group. I did the latter.


> On 31 Jul2022, at 11:01 AM, Murray Eisenberg  > wrote:
> 
> On an iMac I was running MacPorts 2.7.2 under macOS Monterey 12.5. I used the 
> macOS Migration Assistant to migrate Documents and Settings from a Time 
> Machine backup of that iMac to a new Mac Studio, also running macOS 12.5.
> 
> Now at the login screen I show a user MacPorts, but I do not see such user 
> listed when, in my admin account, I use System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 
> What, if anything, should be done?
> 
> (I do realize that I will want to do a migration of MacPorts itself on the 
> new Mac Studio, not least because it is Apple silicon whereas the old iMac 
> was Intel.)
> 
> Related: 
> 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/317576/how-to-delete-macports-user-after-using-the-migration-assistant
>  
> 
> 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/285710/is-it-possible-to-hide-an-account-from-the-login-screen-where-you-can-see-all-th
>  
> 
> 
> ---
> Murray Eisenberg  murrayeisenb...@gmail.com 
> 
> Mobile (413)-427-5334
> 503 King Farm Blvd #101   
> Rockville, MD 20850-6667  
> 
> 
> 

---
Murray Eisenbergmurrayeisenb...@gmail.com 

Mobile (413)-427-5334
503 King Farm Blvd #101 
Rockville, MD 20850-6667

Macports user on login screen after migration from old Mac to new Mac

[Murray Eisenberg]

On an iMac I was running MacPorts 2.7.2 under macOS Monterey 12.5. I used the 
macOS Migration Assistant to migrate Documents and Settings from a Time Machine 
backup of that iMac to a new Mac Studio, also running macOS 12.5.

Now at the login screen I show a user MacPorts, but I do not see such user 
listed when, in my admin account, I use System Preferences > Users & Groups.

What, if anything, should be done?

(I do realize that I will want to do a migration of MacPorts itself on the new 
Mac Studio, not least because it is Apple silicon whereas the old iMac was 
Intel.)

Related: 

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/317576/how-to-delete-macports-user-after-using-the-migration-assistant
 


https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/285710/is-it-possible-to-hide-an-account-from-the-login-screen-where-you-can-see-all-th
 


---
Murray Eisenbergmurrayeisenb...@gmail.com 

Mobile (413)-427-5334
503 King Farm Blvd #101 
Rockville, MD 20850-6667

Re: Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[Joshua Root]

There hasn't been a base release recently, so that output is completely expected when 
updating the base sources. There should be some more output involving "--->  
Updating the ports tree" which, if you have an rsync-based source configured in 
sources.conf, will run additional rsync commands to update ports.tar and PortIndex. That 
worked for me when I tried it just now.

Gerben Wierda wrote:


Because after finishing it still said ‘more than two weeks old please update’, 
and it downloaded not more than 50-60 bytes

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
R Enterprise Architecture  (main site)
Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
Book: Mastering ArchiMate 

>/On 31 Jul 2022, at 11:58, Chris Jones > wrote: />//>//>//>>/On 31 Jul 2022, at 9:05 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
> wrote: />>//>>/ />>/gerben at hermione 
 
macports-ports % sudo port -v selfupdate />>/---> Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync />>//>>/Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de . />>/Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar. />>//>>/Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de . />>/Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync. />>//>>//>>/receiving file list ... done />>//>>/sent 16 bytes received 55 bytes 142.00 bytes/sec />>/total size is 85861888 speedup is 1209322.37 />>//>>/Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de . />>/Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar. />>//>>/Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de . />>/Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync. />>//>>//>>/receiving file list ... done />>//>>/sent 16 bytes received 62 bytes 52.00 bytes/sec/

Re: Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[Gerben Wierda via macports-users]

Because after finishing it still said ‘more than two weeks old please update’, 
and it downloaded not more than 50-60 bytes

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
R Enterprise Architecture  (main site)
Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
Book: Mastering ArchiMate 

> On 31 Jul 2022, at 11:58, Chris Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jul 2022, at 9:05 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> gerben@hermione macports-ports % sudo port -v selfupdate
>> --->  Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync
>> 
>> Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de .
>> Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.
>> 
>> Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de .
>> Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.
>> 
>> 
>> receiving file list ... done
>> 
>> sent 16 bytes  received 55 bytes  142.00 bytes/sec
>> total size is 85861888  speedup is 1209322.37
>> 
>> Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de .
>> Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.
>> 
>> Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de .
>> Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.
>> 
>> 
>> receiving file list ... done
>> 
>> sent 16 bytes  received 62 bytes  52.00 bytes/sec
>> 
>> Seems to be a problem. 
> 
> Why do you say that ?
> 
>> 
>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
>> R IT Strategy  (main site)
>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
>> 
>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate 
>> 

Re: Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

[Teemu]

Yes, using it, works fine.


Chris Jones kirjoitti 31.7.2022 klo 12.58:

Yes, using it just fine for a short whole now…

On 31 Jul 2022, at 10:09 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
 wrote:


Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
R IT Strategy  (main site)
Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 


Book: Mastering ArchiMate 

Re: Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[Chris Jones]

> On 31 Jul 2022, at 9:05 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> gerben@hermione macports-ports % sudo port -v selfupdate
> --->  Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync
> 
> Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de.
> Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.
> 
> Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de.
> Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.
> 
> 
> receiving file list ... done
> 
> sent 16 bytes  received 55 bytes  142.00 bytes/sec
> total size is 85861888  speedup is 1209322.37
> 
> Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de.
> Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.
> 
> Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de.
> Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.
> 
> 
> receiving file list ... done
> 
> sent 16 bytes  received 62 bytes  52.00 bytes/sec
> 
> Seems to be a problem. 

Why do you say that ?

> 
> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn)
> R IT Strategy (main site)
> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture
> Book: Mastering ArchiMate
> 

Re: Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

[Chris Jones]

Yes, using it just fine for a short whole now…

> On 31 Jul 2022, at 10:09 am, Gerben Wierda via macports-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?
> 
> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn)
> R IT Strategy (main site)
> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture
> Book: Mastering ArchiMate
> 

Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

[Gerben Wierda via macports-users]

Has anyone been using Monterey 12.5 yet?

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
R IT Strategy  (main site)
Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
Book: Mastering ArchiMate 

Problem with rsync.macports.org mirror?

[Gerben Wierda via macports-users]

gerben@hermione macports-ports % sudo port -v selfupdate
--->  Updating MacPorts base sources using rsync

Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de.
Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.

Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de.
Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.


receiving file list ... done

sent 16 bytes  received 55 bytes  142.00 bytes/sec
total size is 85861888  speedup is 1209322.37

Willkommen auf dem RSYNC-server auf ftp.fau.de.
Nicht all unsere Mirror sind per rsync verfuegbar.

Welcome to the RSYNC daemon on ftp.fau.de.
Not all of our mirrors are available through rsync.


receiving file list ... done

sent 16 bytes  received 62 bytes  52.00 bytes/sec

Seems to be a problem. 

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn )
R IT Strategy  (main site)
Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
Book: Mastering ArchiMate