Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Zoom Text on Mac Question [was Re: iTunes/iPod Shuffle Problem]
Hi Matt, I was very interested in your comments about VoiceOver and the Mac for low vision use. I've configured a Macbook for someone with the Zoom mode universal options enabled, and with various preferences set up for mail and TextEdit to use large fonts. Are there other low-vision software programs besides the freeware Nocturne application that you found useful? We have Greg's VoiceOver Compatibility list of software at: http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/ but it strikes me that there's no comparable list of low-vision software apart from the general listings on the Apple Accessibility page links. You might send a suggestion to accessibil...@mac.com to add Nocturne to the entries on their third-party solutions page: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/macosx.html You mentioned a ZoomText feature named DocReader to reformat text for reading and magnification zones. I'm not familiar with this, but from the description I would guess that you might be able to get similar functionality on your Mac by defining a keyboard shortcut to the New Window Containing Selection menu option that's under the Services menu that's available for every application. For example, if you have a web page, possibly with embedded pdf document, or even something in Preview you can select all content (Command-A), then use the Services menu option to send the output to a TextEdit document whose contents you select (Command-A) and zoom up with Command-equals (the same key that has the + key when shifted). The difference between simply using this sequence directly in your browser is that you get a larger range of text enlargement and don't have to worry about incompatibilities with text layout formating. It will also pull out only the text. Because the size of the TextEdit window is fixed, this effectively re-formats the sentences to always fit within the window boundaries, for easier magnification. And you could probably pre-define a style and font to choose a font type that is easier to use with a single key press. I use this shortcut sequence as another way to get continuous speaking text on web pages --- and even as a way to read web pages that have other accessibility issues (because of the problematic HTML elements) for VoiceOver. What's neat about this method specifically in the case of web pages is that you can click on the links in the content that's been sent to TextEdit and activate the links, as long as they're regular links with full addresses -- not links to Javascript actions. Your browser will update and show the new page. However, even without using the magnification feature in TextEdit, this method (sending the selection to a TextEdit window through the Services menu option) is one of the ways to make VoiceOver speak web pages continuously, and also get around some otherwise inaccessible pages. Plus, the feature of being able to click links in TextEdit, provided you know they are there (from context, or sometimes by the text attributes) is pretty neat. It's really when this is bound to a shortcut key that this sequence is useful, because you do your selection (any part, or the whole thing with Command-A), then use the shortcut, and a TextEdit window comes up in focus with the contents. You can either have VoiceOver speak the contents, or you can stop speaking (e.g., press Control), and then select the text (Command-A) in the TextEdit window and use Command-equals to magnify the text (hold down the command key and tap or press the = key to the left of the delete key.) If you want to try this, make your selection in an app, then go to the New Window Containing Selection option under the Services menu for your app on the menu bar: 1. VO-M to go to menu bar 2. Right-Arrow to your app 3. Down Arrow into menu 4. Press S to go to Services 5. Right Arrow to services submenu 6. Press T to go to TextEdit (Up Arrow also takes you here) 7. Right Arrow to the Services TextEdit submenu 8, Right Arrow to New Window Containing Selection and Return A TextEdit window containing your selection will come up, so if you have VoiceOver enabled you can just have it speak. If you want to check whether the magnification under TextEdit is a useful feature for low vision use, try doing select all (Command-A), and then magnifying with Command-equals until the fonts match your desired magnification. This is a slightly different way of using shortcut key assignments for selected text, instead of using either Start Speaking Text (another item in the Services menu, under the Speech submenu instead of under the TextEdit submenu) or setting a key for Speak selected text when the key is pressed in the text-to-speech tab of the Speech menu under Systems Preferences. Scott Bresnahan detailed a tip about the other two shortcut key assignments in an archived post:
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Hello, You can also do a restore from the install DVD by launching the dvd as if you were going to install the whole system. However, after you get VO running and you've answered the language questions. On the next screen go to the system utilities submenu and pick restore. You will then be guided through the different items to set. The last one is what time and date to use. Just arrow up or down through the table till you have the one you want. For example, the time machine restore just before the framework you don't want was installed. Then just do the restore and away you go. It will be as if you never had the problem. HTH Dan key...@comcast.net On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reading pdf files on the mac usingvo?
Hi, There are some pointers about using Preview to read PDFs on Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver site: http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/preview5.html I also posted a reply on this last fall in the archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@macvisionaries.com/msg43286.html (Re: VoiceOver and PDFs) Under Leopard there are some instances where VoiceOver focus is more finicky than under Tiger. Preview is one of these. My post, and a good bit of what's on Tim's site was written using Preview under Tiger, and modified. You can currently use Find to locate strings in Preview, but you can only navigate to the page, not to the locations of individual words and phrases on that page. When you use Command-F to find a string, a list of matching occurrences gets listed in Preview's sidebar. If you navigate with VO-Right arrow from the main text page to the sidebar, there are a list of matching page occurrences. The main window does update to the next occurrence, but the VoiceOver focus placement in the main window is problematic. Selecting the page from the sidebar works, but puts you at the start of the page. I'll have to do some experimentation on this. Cheers, Esther On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: This is also my question: I haven't found a way of finding a string of text I want in Preview so any clues would be welcome. Simon On 18 Mar 2009, at 01:52, Eliza Cooper wrote: Hi List, How about using the find feature in preview? When you have searched for text, how do you navigate to the resulting section? Eliza On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Usually, you can just open the PDF file in preview, then interact with the scroll area and read away. On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: hi how dos one read a pdf file on the mac using vo? eny thoughts on this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Hi Cara, When you are going through the setup process and you have the radio buttons to select a new Mac, restoring from a time machine backup or from another volume, I chose the time machine optino. Note that I could not get the restore to work from the Utilities menu of the install DVD. I did have sighted help looking over my shoulder, but when you restore from the time machine backup, you should have the ability to go back. Mine was easy because I only wanted the last backup. Honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time poking around, but I'll ask my friend who was there if he remembers what all the options were if you need me to. Take Care On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: John, where were you offered the choice of dates from which to restore?… I didn't see this at all. I chose restore from a Time Machine backup, but didn't see any place to enter or choose a date. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Ah, thanks Dan, this is possibly exactly what I want. smile However, as a note of concern, when I did my last Time Machine restore, I wasn't given the option to omit a key folder (/library) that I really didn't want copied over. So I'm hoping this will avoid that happening again by simply restoring to an earlier date. Thanks again and I'll definitely write back when I do this with my experience. Have a terrific evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, You can also do a restore from the install DVD by launching the dvd as if you were going to install the whole system. However, after you get VO running and you've answered the language questions. On the next screen go to the system utilities submenu and pick restore. You will then be guided through the different items to set. The last one is what time and date to use. Just arrow up or down through the table till you have the one you want. For example, the time machine restore just before the framework you don't want was installed. Then just do the restore and away you go. It will be as if you never had the problem. HTH Dan @comcast.net On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Wow, this is interesting, as I have many backups but only saw one relevant one for the partition I was needing to backup. Incidentally, this is my main partition and as I said, there are many backup points, so go figure. smile I'm honestly not about to do this again right this minute, as I kind of needed to baby sit the Mac last night / today between the install / restore / software updates, so it's just too time-consuming for the moment. However, any other info you might have would sure be appreciated, as I will definitely be doing this again by next week, and I also think this topic may be helpful to new users as well. Have a great day / evening!… -You rock!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:16 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, When you are going through the setup process and you have the radio buttons to select a new Mac, restoring from a time machine backup or from another volume, I chose the time machine optino. Note that I could not get the restore to work from the Utilities menu of the install DVD. I did have sighted help looking over my shoulder, but when you restore from the time machine backup, you should have the ability to go back. Mine was easy because I only wanted the last backup. Honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time poking around, but I'll ask my friend who was there if he remembers what all the options were if you need me to. Take Care On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: John, where were you offered the choice of dates from which to restore?… I didn't see this at all. I chose restore from a Time Machine backup, but didn't see any place to enter or choose a date. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll Results
Hi Cara, what I think you should do is just copy all subscribers over, that's my thought on that. On Mar 18, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All; Thanks to all of you who voted!… YOU ROCK!!! :) The poll is now officially closed, and here are the results… Moderate all posts to the MacVisionaries list and create a new (unmoderated) chat list - is the winning option by a whopping two, (count em') two votes! smile there were 28 votes in total, and the percentage was 54 in favor with 46 against. so, this means that we'll begin moderating this list soon as well as creating an additional list so that people can be really laid back on subject lines and posting topics etc. This way people who really just want straight info can get it without any fuss and others can have a more social oriented list for Mac users. Now, I'll be out of town for the next two days, and will be busy over this weekend, so none of this will even begin to happen until next week, sometime, and surely this will be a bit of a process rather than something that will smoothly happen all at once. HOwever, I'll definitely do my best to make it as quick and easy as possible. Hopefully it will be fairly transparent to you all and I'll leave it up to you how you'd like me to add you all to the respective lists. I.e. should I simply copy all of our current members over to the new list and simply have people unsub who would rather not be there, or shall I simply create the new group and have people voluntarily join?… Obviously this last option seems best to me, but it's your call… Anyway, enough from me for now… As I said, I'll be out of town / very busy over the next few days, so I won't be answering emails. However, I will definitely go over all of them and as always, do feel free to write me with any questions / concerns you may have. Don't plan on a quick response for the next few days, but it is possible. smile Have a great day / evening and chat with y'all soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll Results
Me too. On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: I agree. Just transfer the members to the new list. On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: J G, I would think the first option would be easier, and those that want to unsubscribe can do so. It would be a lot easier to just transfer current members to that new list. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire wrote: Heya, Cara! 'Hopefully it will be fairly transparent to you all and I'll leave it up to you how you'd like me to add you all to the respective lists. I.e. should I simply copy all of our current members over to the new list and simply have people unsub who would rather not be there, or shall I simply create the new group and have people voluntarily join?… Obviously this last option seems best to me, but it's your call…' I would rather voluntarily join the new group than to have to opt out. Thanks for asking! Have an awesome week and weekend! JG On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hey All; Thanks to all of you who voted!… YOU ROCK!!! :) louie louiem...@wavecable.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---