Re: Restoring with Time Machine

2009-03-18 Thread John Panarese

Hi Cara,
 From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then  
used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore.  This worked  
like a charm for me.  I just chose the latest date and I got  
everything back.  As a note, I did this after the install during the  
setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another  
volume or from a time machine backup.

On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!…

   Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve.
 Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've
 installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to
 get rid of.

   I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my
 entire system from a backup?…

   I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but
 wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant.  I.E.  I
 wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from.  Since the
 latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come
 over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing
 to restore.  aaarrrggg!  Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to
 me!  lol!

   So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and
 pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it.  Is this
 possible?…

   Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean
 system install yet still retain all of my user data?…

   Thanks for any help anyone can offer!…  You guys rock!…

   Have a terrific day!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn


 



Take Care

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Re: Zoom Text on Mac Question [was Re: iTunes/iPod Shuffle Problem]

2009-03-18 Thread Esther

Hi Matt,

I was very interested in your comments about VoiceOver and the Mac for  
low vision use. I've configured a Macbook for someone with the Zoom  
mode universal options enabled, and with various preferences set up  
for mail and TextEdit to use large fonts.  Are there other low-vision  
software programs besides the freeware Nocturne application that you  
found useful?  We have Greg's VoiceOver Compatibility list of software  
at:

http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/

but it strikes me that there's no comparable list of low-vision  
software apart from the general listings on the Apple Accessibility  
page links.  You might send a suggestion to accessibil...@mac.com to  
add Nocturne to the entries on their third-party solutions page:

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/macosx.html

You mentioned a ZoomText feature named DocReader to reformat text for  
reading and magnification zones.  I'm not familiar with this, but from  
the description I would guess that you might be able to get similar  
functionality on your Mac by defining a keyboard shortcut to the New  
Window Containing Selection menu option that's under the Services  
menu that's available for every application.   For example, if you  
have a web page, possibly with embedded pdf document, or even  
something in Preview you can select all content (Command-A), then use  
the Services menu option to send the output to a TextEdit document  
whose contents you select (Command-A) and zoom up with Command-equals  
(the same key that has the + key when shifted).  The difference  
between simply using this sequence directly in your browser is that  
you get a larger range of text enlargement and don't have to worry  
about incompatibilities with text layout formating.  It will also pull  
out only the text.  Because the size of the TextEdit window is fixed,  
this effectively re-formats the sentences to always fit within the  
window boundaries, for easier magnification. And you could probably  
pre-define a style and font to choose a font type that is easier to  
use with a single key press.

I use this shortcut sequence as another way to get continuous speaking  
text on web pages --- and even as a way to read web pages that have  
other accessibility issues (because of the problematic HTML elements)  
for VoiceOver.  What's neat about this method specifically in the case  
of web pages is that you can click on the links in the content that's  
been sent to TextEdit and activate the links, as long as they're  
regular links with full addresses -- not links to Javascript actions.   
Your browser will update and show the new page.

However, even without using the magnification feature in TextEdit,  
this method (sending the selection to a TextEdit window through the  
Services menu option) is one of the ways to make VoiceOver speak web  
pages continuously, and also get around some otherwise inaccessible  
pages.  Plus, the feature of being able to click links in TextEdit,  
provided you know they are there (from context, or sometimes by the  
text attributes) is pretty neat.  It's really when this is bound to a  
shortcut key that this sequence is useful, because you do your  
selection (any part, or the whole thing with Command-A), then use the  
shortcut, and a TextEdit window comes up in focus with the contents.  
You can either have VoiceOver speak the contents, or you can stop  
speaking (e.g., press Control), and then select the text (Command-A)  
in the TextEdit window and use Command-equals to magnify the text  
(hold down the command key and tap or press the = key to the left of  
the delete key.)

If you want to try this, make your selection in an app, then go to the  
New Window Containing Selection option  under the Services menu for  
your app on the menu bar:

1. VO-M to go to menu bar
2. Right-Arrow to your app
3. Down Arrow into menu
4. Press S to go to Services
5. Right Arrow to services submenu
6. Press T to go to TextEdit (Up Arrow also takes you here)
7. Right Arrow to the Services TextEdit submenu
8, Right Arrow to New Window Containing Selection and Return

A TextEdit window containing your selection will come up, so if you  
have VoiceOver enabled you can just have it speak. If you want to  
check whether the magnification under TextEdit is a useful feature for  
low vision use, try doing select all (Command-A), and then magnifying  
with Command-equals until the fonts match your desired magnification.

This is a slightly different way of using shortcut key assignments for  
selected text, instead of using either Start Speaking Text (another  
item in the Services menu, under the Speech submenu instead of under  
the TextEdit submenu) or setting a key for Speak selected text when  
the key is pressed in the text-to-speech tab of the Speech menu  
under Systems Preferences.

Scott Bresnahan detailed a tip about the other two shortcut key  
assignments in an archived post:


Re: Restoring with Time Machine

2009-03-18 Thread Dan

Hello,
You can also do a restore from the install DVD by launching the dvd as  
if you were going to install the whole system. However, after you get  
VO running and you've answered the language questions. On the next  
screen go to the system utilities submenu and pick restore.
You will then be guided through the different items to set. The last  
one is what time and date to use. Just arrow up or down through the  
table till you have the one you want. For example, the time machine  
restore just before the framework you don't want was installed.
Then just do the restore and away you go.
It will be as if you never had the problem.
HTH
Dan
key...@comcast.net



On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote:


 Hi Cara,
 From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then
 used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore.  This worked
 like a charm for me.  I just chose the latest date and I got
 everything back.  As a note, I did this after the install during the
 setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another
 volume or from a time machine backup.

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


  Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!…

  Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve.
 Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've
 installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need  
 to
 get rid of.

  I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my
 entire system from a backup?…

  I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but
 wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant.  I.E.  I
 wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from.  Since the
 latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have  
 come
 over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing
 to restore.  aaarrrggg!  Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft  
 to
 me!  lol!

  So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and
 pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it.  Is  
 this
 possible?…

  Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean
 system install yet still retain all of my user data?…

  Thanks for any help anyone can offer!…  You guys rock!…

  Have a terrific day!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn






 Take Care

 John Panarese


 


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Re: reading pdf files on the mac usingvo?

2009-03-18 Thread Esther

Hi,

There are some pointers about using Preview to read PDFs on Tim  
Kilburn's VoiceOver site:

http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/preview5.html

I also posted a reply on this last fall in the archives:

http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@macvisionaries.com/msg43286.html
(Re: VoiceOver and PDFs)

Under Leopard there are some instances where VoiceOver focus is more  
finicky than under Tiger.  Preview is one of these.  My post, and a  
good bit of what's on Tim's site was written using Preview under  
Tiger, and modified. You can currently use Find to locate strings in  
Preview, but you can only navigate to the page, not to the locations  
of individual words and phrases on that page.  When you use Command-F  
to find a string, a list of matching occurrences gets listed in  
Preview's sidebar. If you navigate with VO-Right arrow from the main  
text page to the sidebar, there are a list of matching page  
occurrences.  The main window does update to the next occurrence, but  
the VoiceOver focus placement in the main window is problematic.  
Selecting the page from the sidebar works, but puts you at the start  
of the page.

I'll have to do some experimentation on this.

Cheers,

Esther


On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 This  is also my question: I haven't found a way of finding a string
 of text I want in Preview so any clues would be welcome.

 Simon
 On 18 Mar 2009, at 01:52, Eliza Cooper wrote:


 Hi List,
   How about using the find feature in preview?  When you have
 searched for text, how do you navigate to the resulting section?
   Eliza
 On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:


 Usually, you can just open the PDF file in preview, then interact
 with
 the scroll area and read away.
 On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:


 hi how dos one read a pdf file on the mac using vo? eny thoughts on
 this?










 


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Re: Restoring with Time Machine

2009-03-18 Thread John Panarese

Hi Cara,
 When you are going through the setup process and you have the  
radio buttons to select a new Mac, restoring from a time machine  
backup or from another volume, I chose the time machine optino.  Note  
that I could not get the restore to work from the Utilities menu of  
the install DVD.  I did have sighted help looking over my shoulder,  
but when you restore from the time machine backup, you should have the  
ability to go back.  Mine was easy because I only wanted the last  
backup.  Honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time poking around, but  
I'll ask my friend who was there if he remembers what all the options  
were if you need me to.

Take Care

On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   John, where were you offered the choice of dates from which to
 restore?…  I didn't see this at all.  I chose restore from a Time
 Machine backup, but didn't see any place to enter or choose a date.

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote:


 Hi Cara,
 From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then
 used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore.  This worked
 like a charm for me.  I just chose the latest date and I got
 everything back.  As a note, I did this after the install during the
 setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another
 volume or from a time machine backup.

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!…

 Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve.
 Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've
 installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need  
 to
 get rid of.

 I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my
 entire system from a backup?…

 I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but
 wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant.  I.E.  I
 wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from.  Since the
 latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have  
 come
 over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing
 to restore.  aaarrrggg!  Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft  
 to
 me!  lol!

 So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and
 pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it.  Is  
 this
 possible?…

 Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean
 system install yet still retain all of my user data?…

 Thanks for any help anyone can offer!…  You guys rock!…

 Have a terrific day!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn






 Take Care

 John Panarese





 


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Re: Restoring with Time Machine

2009-03-18 Thread Cara Quinn

   Ah, thanks Dan, this is possibly exactly what I want.  smile

   However, as a note of concern, when I did my last Time Machine  
restore, I wasn't given the option to omit a key folder (/library)  
that I really didn't want copied over.  So I'm hoping this will avoid  
that happening again by simply restoring to an earlier date.

   Thanks again and I'll definitely write back when I do this with my  
experience.

   Have a terrific evening!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Dan wrote:


Hello,
You can also do a restore from the install DVD by launching the dvd as
if you were going to install the whole system. However, after you get
VO running and you've answered the language questions. On the next
screen go to the system utilities submenu and pick restore.
You will then be guided through the different items to set. The last
one is what time and date to use. Just arrow up or down through the
table till you have the one you want. For example, the time machine
restore just before the framework you don't want was installed.
Then just do the restore and away you go.
It will be as if you never had the problem.
HTH
Dan
  @comcast.net



On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote:


 Hi Cara,
From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then
 used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore.  This worked
 like a charm for me.  I just chose the latest date and I got
 everything back.  As a note, I did this after the install during the
 setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another
 volume or from a time machine backup.

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!…

 Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve.
 Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've
 installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need
 to
 get rid of.

 I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my
 entire system from a backup?…

 I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but
 wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant.  I.E.  I
 wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from.  Since the
 latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have
 come
 over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing
 to restore.  aaarrrggg!  Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft
 to
 me!  lol!

 So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and
 pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it.  Is
 this
 possible?…

 Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean
 system install yet still retain all of my user data?…

 Thanks for any help anyone can offer!…  You guys rock!…

 Have a terrific day!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn






 Take Care

 John Panarese








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Re: Restoring with Time Machine

2009-03-18 Thread Cara Quinn

   Wow, this is interesting, as I have many backups but only saw one  
relevant one for the partition I was needing to backup.  Incidentally,  
this is my main partition and as I said, there are many backup points,  
so go figure.  smile

   I'm honestly not about to do this again right this minute, as I  
kind of needed to baby sit the Mac last night / today between the  
install / restore / software updates, so it's just too time-consuming  
for the moment.  However, any other info you might have would sure be  
appreciated, as I will definitely be doing this again by next week,  
and I also think this topic may be helpful to new users as well.

   Have a great day / evening!…  -You rock!…


Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:


Hi Cara,
 When you are going through the setup process and you have the
radio buttons to select a new Mac, restoring from a time machine
backup or from another volume, I chose the time machine optino.  Note
that I could not get the restore to work from the Utilities menu of
the install DVD.  I did have sighted help looking over my shoulder,
but when you restore from the time machine backup, you should have the
ability to go back.  Mine was easy because I only wanted the last
backup.  Honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time poking around, but
I'll ask my friend who was there if he remembers what all the options
were if you need me to.

Take Care

On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


  John, where were you offered the choice of dates from which to
 restore?…  I didn't see this at all.  I chose restore from a Time
 Machine backup, but didn't see any place to enter or choose a date.

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote:


 Hi Cara,
From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then
 used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore.  This worked
 like a charm for me.  I just chose the latest date and I got
 everything back.  As a note, I did this after the install during the
 setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another
 volume or from a time machine backup.

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!…

 Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve.
 Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've
 installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need
 to
 get rid of.

 I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my
 entire system from a backup?…

 I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but
 wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant.  I.E.  I
 wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from.  Since the
 latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have
 come
 over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing
 to restore.  aaarrrggg!  Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft
 to
 me!  lol!

 So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and
 pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it.  Is
 this
 possible?…

 Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean
 system install yet still retain all of my user data?…

 Thanks for any help anyone can offer!…  You guys rock!…

 Have a terrific day!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn






 Take Care

 John Panarese











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Re: Poll Results

2009-03-18 Thread Dan Eickmeier

Hi Cara, what I think you should do is just copy all subscribers over,  
that's my thought on that.
On Mar 18, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Hey All;  Thanks to all of you who voted!…  YOU ROCK!!!  :)

   The poll is now officially closed, and here are the results…

Moderate all posts to the MacVisionaries list and create a new
(unmoderated) chat list - is the winning option by a whopping two,
(count em') two votes!  smile

   there were 28 votes in total, and the percentage was 54 in favor
with 46 against.

   so, this means that we'll begin moderating this list soon as well
as creating an additional list so that people can be really laid back
on subject lines and posting topics etc.  This way people who really
just want straight info can get it without any fuss and others can
have a more social oriented list for Mac users.

   Now, I'll be out of town for the next two days, and will be busy
over this weekend, so none of this will even begin to happen until
next week, sometime, and surely this will be a bit of a process rather
than something that will smoothly happen all at once.  HOwever, I'll
definitely do my best to make it as quick and easy as possible.

   Hopefully it will be fairly transparent to you all and I'll leave
it up to you how you'd like me to add you all to the respective
lists.  I.e.  should I simply copy all of our current members over to
the new list and simply have people unsub who would rather not be
there, or shall I simply create the new group and have people
voluntarily join?…  Obviously this last option seems best to me, but
it's your call…

   Anyway, enough from me for now…

   As I said, I'll be out of town / very busy over the next few days,
so I won't be answering emails.  However, I will definitely go over
all of them and as always, do feel free to write me with any
questions / concerns you may have.  Don't plan on a quick response for
the next  few days, but it is possible.  smile

   Have a great day / evening and chat with y'all soon!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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Re: Poll Results

2009-03-18 Thread louie
Me too.
On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

 I agree.  Just transfer the members to the new list.

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:

 J G, I would think the first option would be easier, and those that  
 want to unsubscribe can do so.  It would be a lot easier to just  
 transfer current members to that new list.  Richie Gardenhire,  
 Anchorage, Alaska.

  
 On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire wrote:

 Heya, Cara!

 'Hopefully it will be fairly transparent to you all and I'll leave
 it up to you how you'd like me to add you all to the respective
 lists.  I.e.  should I simply copy all of our current members over  
 to
 the new list and simply have people unsub who would rather not be
 there, or shall I simply create the new group and have people
 voluntarily join?…  Obviously this last option seems best to me, but
 it's your call…'

 I would rather voluntarily join the new group than to have to opt  
 out. Thanks for asking! Have an awesome week and weekend!

 JG

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Cara Quinn  
 caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:

   Hey All;  Thanks to all of you who voted!…  YOU ROCK!!!  :)









 

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