Re: Mac-cessibility Quick Tip #24

2009-06-14 Thread Justin Harford

Cool.  Hey you guys should post a tip about changing your facebook  
status with adium.  It would be worth mentioning that you can chat  
over facebook too.  I have never been able to find a win program that  
can do this.

Justin
On Jun 13, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Mac-cessibility quick Tip #24 is now posted at:

 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/06/13/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-24/

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Re: Making Firefox Speak on the Mac

2009-06-14 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

On 13/6/09 16:50, Jane Jordan (GMail) wrote:
 Can someone re-send instructions on what I need to do to get Firefox
 speaking?

One possibility is WebAnywhere: http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu/

The other possibility is the Fire Vox addon that turns Firefox into a 
self-voicing application:

http://firevox.clcworld.net/

Here's some instructions I put together a while back for installing Fire 
Vox.

Make sure VoiceOver is on throughout.

First download and install the current version of Firefox in your 
Applications folder.

Next download the FireVox add-ons bundle. From the terminal, run:

fetch http://firevox.clcworld.net/clc-4-tts_bundle_v4.0_release.xpi

Firefox allows you to have one or more user profiles. Create a FireVox 
profile for Firefox. From the terminal, run:

/Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -CreateProfile firevox

Next run Firefox, telling it to load in the foreground with the new 
profile and open the add-on installer. From the terminal, run:

/Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -foreground -P 
firevox `pwd`/clc-4-tts_bundle_v4.0_release.xpi

Note the inline use of the pwd command to get the directory of the Fire 
Vox bundle:

http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/pwd.1.html

VoiceOver should now announce you are in a Mozilla Firefox window. This 
will be the add-on installer, but no information about it is exposed to 
Firefox. There are two buttons in the installer window Cancel and 
Install. Install is automatically focused. However, for security 
reasons, the button is disabled for a short timeout. Count to 5 to 
ensure the button is activable, then press Enter to install the add-on.

Now count to 5 again to give the add-on time to install. You should now 
be in a window called Add-ons showing installed addons, but VoiceOver 
can't read anything other than the window title and window controls.

Firefox needs to restart to enable the newly installed add-ons. Press 
Command Q to quite Firefox.

Now start Firefox again with your profile. From the terminal, run:

/Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -P firevox

With VoiceOver enabled, you should now be able to explore the Firefox 
window and interface. Fire Vox is using Mac TTS for speech output.

There's a guide to the command line options for the Firefox binary at:

https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Command_Line_Options

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Re: Mac-cessibility Quick Tip #24

2009-06-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hey there. Thanks for the tip. Is there a way for VO users to actually  
see other mood messages? As it is now, you can only see the name of  
the contact and not the mood message, but there is apparently some  
columns that you could manipulate in some way to show the mood  
message, but i haven't found a way to do this with VO.
/Krister


14 jun 2009 kl. 03.37 skrev Cara Quinn:


 Mac-cessibility quick Tip #24 is now posted at:

 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/06/13/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-24/

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Making a new task from a message in mail

2009-06-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hello friends.
Has anyone tried making a task based on a message in Mail? When i vo- 
shift-M in a mail to make a task and then enter new task i'm put  
back at the beginning of the mail and am not sure what to do to have  
the task completed. Does anyone have any hints, tricks or helpful  
things to suggest for doing this or is this simply not accessible?
Thanks
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Re: Mac-cessibility Quick Tip #24

2009-06-14 Thread Wendy Mitchell

i char on aduim facebook to my famly all the time, i love it.

 From Wendy.

On 14 Jun 2009, at 08:08, Justin Harford wrote:


 Cool.  Hey you guys should post a tip about changing your facebook
 status with adium.  It would be worth mentioning that you can chat
 over facebook too.  I have never been able to find a win program that
 can do this.

 Justin
 On Jun 13, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Mac-cessibility quick Tip #24 is now posted at:

 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/06/13/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-24/

 Skype users, enjoy!

 Cara  :)
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A nice video about the accessibility features on the new Iphone

2009-06-14 Thread Søren Jensen

Hi.

I'm sorry if this link has ben posted here before. I've just found a  
nice video on Youtube, where a guy is discussing the accessibility  
features on the Iphone. Here is the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZuBe3TZyU
Have an awesome day.
Best regards
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Re: A nice video about the accessibility features on the new Iphone

2009-06-14 Thread jesus hernandez

hello just herd this it is cool might go take a look at the iphone  
next weekend.
On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi.

 I'm sorry if this link has ben posted here before. I've just found a
 nice video on Youtube, where a guy is discussing the accessibility
 features on the Iphone. Here is the link to the video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZuBe3TZyU
 Have an awesome day.
 Best regards
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/


 

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syrinx fixed

2009-06-14 Thread jesus hernandez

hello yesterday syrinx got fixed just run check for update and there  
it is.
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Re: syrinx fixed

2009-06-14 Thread Mike Reiser

Definitely glad it's finally fixed, I personally like it better than  
twitterific.

Mike
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Type ahead in Itunes 8.2

2009-06-14 Thread Niklas Petersson

Hey, I just upgraded to Itunes 8.2 and it works well except for the  
type ahead function in the Playlist browser.  For example, I have a  
list of 600+ artists and I am located at the top of the list and I  
start typing the name of the artist.  Visually the focus does move,  
but voice over does not verbalise the item it lands on.  This use to  
work fine in the previous version of Itunes.  Thoughts?

I have plaied with the cursor tracking, but no joy.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Type ahead in Itunes 8.2

2009-06-14 Thread Scott Howell

Ah, ok, thanks for confirming this. I was wondering about this and  
just had not gotten around to asking. Please send a note to 
accessibil...@apple.com 
  as well, so they are aware of the issue. More folks that let them  
know of the problem, the more likely it will get fixed sooner perhaps.

thanks,
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Niklas Petersson wrote:


 Hey, I just upgraded to Itunes 8.2 and it works well except for the
 type ahead function in the Playlist browser.  For example, I have a
 list of 600+ artists and I am located at the top of the list and I
 start typing the name of the artist.  Visually the focus does move,
 but voice over does not verbalise the item it lands on.  This use to
 work fine in the previous version of Itunes.  Thoughts?

 I have plaied with the cursor tracking, but no joy.

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: Type ahead in Itunes 8.2

2009-06-14 Thread Niklas Petersson

OK, I have sent that e-mail, it is sort of painful to navigate without  
it, but let's see what happens.

THX


Nik
On 14-Jun-09, at 11:14 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


 Ah, ok, thanks for confirming this. I was wondering about this and
 just had not gotten around to asking. Please send a note to 
 accessibil...@apple.com
  as well, so they are aware of the issue. More folks that let them
 know of the problem, the more likely it will get fixed sooner perhaps.

 thanks,
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Niklas Petersson wrote:


 Hey, I just upgraded to Itunes 8.2 and it works well except for the
 type ahead function in the Playlist browser.  For example, I have a
 list of 600+ artists and I am located at the top of the list and I
 start typing the name of the artist.  Visually the focus does move,
 but voice over does not verbalise the item it lands on.  This use to
 work fine in the previous version of Itunes.  Thoughts?

 I have plaied with the cursor tracking, but no joy.

 Thanks in advance!

 Nik




 


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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi there.

Thanks so much for this totally awesome podcast which contains some  
very awesome news. I highly recommend you all to check it out.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
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Website:
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 Hello all,
 Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow  
 Leopard. Enjoy.
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ

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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi,

This is ilegal.

It goes against the NDA.

Regards,
Alex,


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 Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow  
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 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ

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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen

HI,
All,

Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

Regards,
Alex,


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 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

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Re: A nice video about the accessibility features on the new Iphone

2009-06-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

this is definitely cool!! woohoo!!! s freakin' excited but I have  
to wait a year lol! :(
On 14-Jun-09, at 6:06 AM, jesus hernandez wrote:


 hello just herd this it is cool might go take a look at the iphone
 next weekend.
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi.

 I'm sorry if this link has ben posted here before. I've just found a
 nice video on Youtube, where a guy is discussing the accessibility
 features on the Iphone. Here is the link to the video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZuBe3TZyU
 Have an awesome day.
 Best regards
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/




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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina
yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out  
yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it  
anyway lol
On 14-Jun-09, at 8:52 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:

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 Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow  
 Leopard. Enjoy.
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ

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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread ben mustill-rose

I'm sure its floating about if you know where to go.
Problem is he won't have signed a nda with apple because I bet he's
not a developer.

On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol
 On 14-Jun-09, at 8:52 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:

 Hello all,
 Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow
 Leopard. Enjoy.
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ

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Re: A nice video about the accessibility features on the new Iphone

2009-06-14 Thread ben mustill-rose

I'm still looking for a demo - anyone?

On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote:

 this is definitely cool!! woohoo!!! s freakin' excited but I have
 to wait a year lol! :(
 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:06 AM, jesus hernandez wrote:


 hello just herd this it is cool might go take a look at the iphone
 next weekend.
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi.

 I'm sorry if this link has ben posted here before. I've just found a
 nice video on Youtube, where a guy is discussing the accessibility
 features on the Iphone. Here is the link to the video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZuBe3TZyU
 Have an awesome day.
 Best regards
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/




 jesus hernandez
 jessi...@bellsouth.net

 Skype: jessie
 Aim: jactac
 Msn: hernandez_jes...@hotmail.com


 


 



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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Dunn


Good afternoon all:

I'm hoping that  apps like the Raspberry reader will bring diversity 
of  functionality to the Iphone.  I'd love to see  a  Money 
Identifyer, a color  identifier, and otherapps well with in the 
range of possibility for this device.
If all these are fairly priced, it would 
further   the   justification for  purchase, improve people's lives, 
without  putting us all in hock.

I don't think it  fair for   these  programs to be sold  well over 
the cost of  such   ephemeral devices. Two years of use  is based on 
a   contract,   the  devices of this kind are often obsolete, and 
we're thengoing deeper  into pockets  than others  to  stay on 
equal footing.

Perhapse the Iphone 3gs, or it's  next of kin, will  provide an 
environment for   a good  proverbial  Swiss army Knife for 
our   essential needs.

I salute  those who are  working on  these  apps.

Jeff


At 01:16 PM 6/14/2009, you wrote




HI,
All,

Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

Regards,
Alex,


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  Good morning,
 
  Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
  iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I can
  contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
  Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box accessible
  phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software many
  peoples lives would be greatly improved.
 
  Thanks,
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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Buddy Brannan


On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out  
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it  
 anyway lol

Three words for you:
Yo ho ho!

And five more:
Ye be walkin' the plank.

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question about the trackpad/touch screen?

2009-06-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

hey guys,
I'm sending this to both list cuz it applies to both. I'm just curious.

since there's the trackpad in snowleopard and the touch screen on the  
iphone, wouldn't they both get activated accidently? my mom had a  
touch screen phone once and she traded it in for a blackberry cuz she  
couldn't stand the touch screen. everytime she talked on it, she kept  
accidently pressing buttons on the phone and she kept ending her  
calls. would this be an issue with the iphone? or is there a way to  
disable the touch screen when youre actually in a call?

also, it would be the same on the mac. since you can now control  
voiceover with the trackpad, wouldn't you accidently control things  
with your wrists while you're typing? or is the trackpad so much out  
of the way that you wouldn't hit it while you were typing?

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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

haha yeah that's what I figured lol. I'm not knocking it, it's  
currently playing right now and I'm lovin' it! lol
On 14-Jun-09, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:



 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol

 Three words for you:
 Yo ho ho!

 And five more:
 Ye be walkin' the plank.

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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread ben mustill-rose

I'm sure this list will be getting torrents of email about how this is
illegal but never mind.
Sorry, I couldn't help it.

On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote:

 haha yeah that's what I figured lol. I'm not knocking it, it's
 currently playing right now and I'm lovin' it! lol
 On 14-Jun-09, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:



 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol

 Three words for you:
 Yo ho ho!

 And five more:
 Ye be walkin' the plank.

 Nuff said if you know where to look.


 


 



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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Dave Wright

This would be a great message were it to have a link to click on for the 
supposed podcast.


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Subject: Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard



 I'm sure this list will be getting torrents of email about how this is
 illegal but never mind.
 Sorry, I couldn't help it.

 On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote:

 haha yeah that's what I figured lol. I'm not knocking it, it's
 currently playing right now and I'm lovin' it! lol
 On 14-Jun-09, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:



 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol

 Three words for you:
 Yo ho ho!

 And five more:
 Ye be walkin' the plank.

 Nuff said if you know where to look.


 


 



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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Buddy Brannan

Hi Dave,

This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous.  
Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's  
an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt:
http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ


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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Jessi and Goldina

haha. I've been trying to figure out who it is. I sadly don't  
recognize the voice but now I'm all kinds of curious and I'll probaby  
never know.
On 14-Jun-09, at 11:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


 Hi Dave,

 This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous.
 Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's
 an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt:
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ


 


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Open Cast of Developers was Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

We have an open cast of developers working under the alias of ICE  
Mobile to produce the applications. YOu may join our team at no  
additional charge if you wish.

Regards,
Alex,


On 14-Jun-09, at 10:39 AM, Jeffrey Dunn wrote:



 Good afternoon all:

 I'm hoping that  apps like the Raspberry reader will bring diversity
 of  functionality to the Iphone.  I'd love to see  a  Money
 Identifyer, a color  identifier, and otherapps well with in the
 range of possibility for this device.
 If all these are fairly priced, it would
 further   the   justification for  purchase, improve people's lives,
 without  putting us all in hock.

 I don't think it  fair for   these  programs to be sold  well over
 the cost of  such   ephemeral devices. Two years of use  is based on
 a   contract,   the  devices of this kind are often obsolete, and
 we're thengoing deeper  into pockets  than others  to  stay on
 equal footing.

 Perhapse the Iphone 3gs, or it's  next of kin, will  provide an
 environment for   a good  proverbial  Swiss army Knife for
 our   essential needs.

 I salute  those who are  working on  these  apps.

 Jeff


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 HI,
 All,

 Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I  
 can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software  
 many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

 Thanks,
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ICE Mobile to Preview iPhone Brailler

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

Did you ever think that you would see the day, pardon the pun, that  
iPhone would have a Braille transcribing App. Well the day is fast  
approaching. Mid-August 2009, a small open cast of developers working  
out of VIPBC headquarters in Canada are hard at work creating the  
world's first mobile Braille Production Unit. Small and light, the  
technologies behind Braille Production on the iPhone are standard and  
globally recognized. Supporting over 15 languages in its Braille  
tables, iPhone Brailler aims to support every language supported on  
the iPHone's revelutionary OS. Since iPhone Brailler is going to be  
released mid to late September, the ICE Mobile team has scheduled a  
preview of the software for mid August of 2009.

iPhone Brailler will make use of the iPhone's built-in camera to  
achieve OCR and many other open technologies to drive it's computing  
power. iPhone Brailler is a great companion to Braille Server 9.09,  
which is cheduled for release the same day.

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Re: Mac-cessibility Quick Tip #24

2009-06-14 Thread Dan Eickmeier

If you go to the view menu, and set your contact view to compact  
contact view, then VO will read mood messages along with the name of  
the contact.

On Jun 14, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hey there. Thanks for the tip. Is there a way for VO users to actually
 see other mood messages? As it is now, you can only see the name of
 the contact and not the mood message, but there is apparently some
 columns that you could manipulate in some way to show the mood
 message, but i haven't found a way to do this with VO.
 /Krister


 14 jun 2009 kl. 03.37 skrev Cara Quinn:


 Mac-cessibility quick Tip #24 is now posted at:

 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/06/13/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-24/

 Skype users, enjoy!

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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Justin Harford

Arhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrrhrhrhrhr
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:



 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol

 Three words for you:
 Yo ho ho!

 And five more:
 Ye be walkin' the plank.

 Nuff said if you know where to look.


 


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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread kaare dehard

We can all raise a glass to captain snow-lepard and quietly thank him  
for the taster. I am going to buy it anyway so apple didn't lose  
anything here.
On 14-Jun-09, at 2:52 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:


 haha. I've been trying to figure out who it is. I sadly don't
 recognize the voice but now I'm all kinds of curious and I'll probaby
 never know.
 On 14-Jun-09, at 11:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


 Hi Dave,

 This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous.
 Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's
 an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt:
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ





 


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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Scott Chesworth

Just seen that the download limit has been reached for the file now.
I haven't grabbed a copy yet, so if anybody could sort out a resend or
email it to me off list that would be awesome.

cheers chaps and chapettes
Scott

On 6/14/09, ben mustill-rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dave, your contribution would have been great if you hadn't failed to
 notice that I was replying to a message, not starting a discussion
 off.

 On 14/06/2009, Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Arhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrrhrhrhrhr
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:



 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

 yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
 yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
 anyway lol

 Three words for you:
 Yo ho ho!

 And five more:
 Ye be walkin' the plank.

 Nuff said if you know where to look.


 


 



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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread E.J. Zufelt

Good evening,

I did give that some thought.  To the best of my knowledge the camera  
on the iPhone is 3 megapixel whereas the camera on the KNFB Reader  
(comparable device) is 5 megapixel.

Thanks,
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On 14-Jun-09, at 4:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 It's extremely doubtful that an application like this would be very
 useful on the latest iPhone 3gs model since it's camera isn't yet
 powerful enough.  But perhaps the focus feature could help it make up
 for its low amount of pixels?

 Justin Harford
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:


 Hi,

 I went looking for this Raspbery application and can not find it. Its
 not on the app store and I don't find anything with a Google search.
 Do you have a link?


 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 HI,
 All,

 Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I
 can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box  
 accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software
 many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Larry Wanger

Developers of hardware have access to the port on the iPhone 3GS I  
believe and therefore isn't it possible that someone could develop an  
extension for the camera that offers a better camera attachment?
On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:39 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good evening,

 I did give that some thought.  To the best of my knowledge the camera
 on the iPhone is 3 megapixel whereas the camera on the KNFB Reader
 (comparable device) is 5 megapixel.

 Thanks,
 Everett

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 On 14-Jun-09, at 4:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 It's extremely doubtful that an application like this would be very
 useful on the latest iPhone 3gs model since it's camera isn't yet
 powerful enough.  But perhaps the focus feature could help it make up
 for its low amount of pixels?

 Justin Harford
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:


 Hi,

 I went looking for this Raspbery application and can not find it.  
 Its
 not on the app store and I don't find anything with a Google search.
 Do you have a link?


 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 HI,
 All,

 Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I
 can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box
 accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software
 many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

 Thanks,
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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread tashiegirl



-original message-
Subject: Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
From: kaare dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com
Date: 06/14/2009 3:24 PM


We can all raise a glass to captain snow-lepard and quietly thank him  
for the taster. I am going to buy it anyway so apple didn't lose  
anything here.
On 14-Jun-09, at 2:52 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:


 haha. I've been trying to figure out who it is. I sadly don't
 recognize the voice but now I'm all kinds of curious and I'll probaby
 never know.
 On 14-Jun-09, at 11:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


 Hi Dave,

 This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous.
 Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's
 an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt:
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ





 





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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

That is correct. Same goes for a GPS Receiver for iPod Touch and iPhone.

Regards,
Alex,


On 14-Jun-09, at 3:34 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:


 Developers of hardware have access to the port on the iPhone 3GS I
 believe and therefore isn't it possible that someone could develop an
 extension for the camera that offers a better camera attachment?
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:39 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good evening,

 I did give that some thought.  To the best of my knowledge the camera
 on the iPhone is 3 megapixel whereas the camera on the KNFB Reader
 (comparable device) is 5 megapixel.

 Thanks,
 Everett

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 On 14-Jun-09, at 4:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 It's extremely doubtful that an application like this would be very
 useful on the latest iPhone 3gs model since it's camera isn't yet
 powerful enough.  But perhaps the focus feature could help it make  
 up
 for its low amount of pixels?

 Justin Harford
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:


 Hi,

 I went looking for this Raspbery application and can not find it.
 Its
 not on the app store and I don't find anything with a Google  
 search.
 Do you have a link?


 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 HI,
 All,

 Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so  
 that I
 can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box
 accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software
 many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

 Thanks,
 Everett

 Follow me on Twitter
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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Greg Kearney

My understanding is the issue is with the lens.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Cara Quinncaraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:

   No offense, but where are you getting the idea that a 3 mp camera
 isn't powerful enough? -And, what does that actually mean?…

   It's possible to take pictures at a much lower resolution than
 that, which can clearly show text. -And I'm speaking without auto-
 focus here. -Add the autofocus feature and 3 mp can be considerably
 more than enough…

   Now, the issue of flash / low-light performance might be something
 to consider, but the resolution should be fine…

   May I ask where your specs are coming from?…  No disrespect
 intended. I really would like to know…

 Thanks so much and have a lovely evening!…

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
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 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 It's extremely doubtful that an application like this would be very
 useful on the latest iPhone 3gs model since it's camera isn't yet
 powerful enough.  But perhaps the focus feature could help it make up
 for its low amount of pixels?

 Justin Harford
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:


 Hi,

 I went looking for this Raspbery application and can not find it. Its
 not on the app store and I don't find anything with a Google search.
 Do you have a link?


 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 HI,
 All,

 Raspbery Reader is designed for such a purpose.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 14-Jun-09, at 6:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good morning,

 Curious if anyone knows if there is currently an OCR app for the
 iPhone?  If you know of any I'd love to know their names so that I
 can
 contact their devlopers regarding making the app accessible with
 Voiceover as quickly as possible.  With an out of the box accessible
 phone, with built-in camera and 3rd party accessible OCR software
 many
 peoples lives would be greatly improved.

 Thanks,
 Everett

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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Buddy Brannan

Hi Cara,

I expect people are looking at the KNFB Reader specs. The folks at  
KNFB Reading Technology determined (and I don't know their  
methodologies) that they couldn't get a consistently good enough image  
with a widely enough varying set of natural conditions unless they  
used the 5 MP camera with a xenon flash, and that polarizers stuck on  
the lenses helped further sharpen the image for OCR. I couldn't say  
what this does for other kinds of pictures, though. At any rate, the  
LED flash in most phones I think they said, didn't provide enough  
light, again consistently in a widely varying set of natural  
circumstances. I expect that a 3 MP camera, given the right lighting  
conditions, aim, focus, etc. would be fine, but I also expect these  
things would also be somewhat more fiddly to deal with to get a good  
enough image to OCR. Of course, I'd love to be wrong. I'm personally  
very excited about the possibilities the new iPhone 3GS opens up; I'll  
be even more excited when one can get an unlocked one and isn't  
shackled to ATT until doomsday.

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Re: Optical character recognition for iPhone

2009-06-14 Thread Buddy Brannan

Hi Greg,

On Jun 14, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 My understanding is the issue is with the lens.

Yes, I think that plays into it, too; both supported phones have Karl  
Zeiss (SP?) optics, which are purported to be like primo top of the  
line stuff off in here.


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Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread matthew Campbell

Hi list members. I cant seem to be able to get this podcast to
download. The page sais the bandwidth limit has been reached or
something of that sort. Weird.

On 6/14/09, tashieg...@rcn.com tashieg...@rcn.com wrote:



 -original message-
 Subject: Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
 From: kaare dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com
 Date: 06/14/2009 3:24 PM


 We can all raise a glass to captain snow-lepard and quietly thank him
 for the taster. I am going to buy it anyway so apple didn't lose
 anything here.
 On 14-Jun-09, at 2:52 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:


 haha. I've been trying to figure out who it is. I sadly don't
 recognize the voice but now I'm all kinds of curious and I'll probaby
 never know.
 On 14-Jun-09, at 11:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


 Hi Dave,

 This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous.
 Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's
 an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt:
 http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ





 





 


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Help Desk Podcast, anyone

2009-06-14 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,
List:

I was wondering if anyone would like to do live demos of Help Desk and  
capture them as a preview of the applications. Audio comments are also  
welcome. Video and Audio formats are permitted and will assist in  
creating an User-based podcast. If anyone would like to put together  
the entire podcast, they are more than welcome to. Our organization  
wants to keep our distance from the project, because our influance may  
damage the effect of the podcast.

I remember, I believe it was Scott saying that he would like to do a  
podcast. Scott, or anyone else, now would be a great time.

Regards,
Alex,



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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

2009-06-14 Thread Cara Quinn

Hi Jane, the link for VIPhone is:

http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

   See you there!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Jane Jordan (GMail) wrote:


What is the email link to subscribe to the iphone list, please? :)

Thanks,

Jane

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