Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps
Don't get ZanyTouch! It will drive you insane! LOL very addictive! That ooTunes is excellent, or there is TuneIn Radio which is free, Units is a very good convertor for lengths, time, weight etc, Facebook is fairly accessible, Skype works well, download iBooks, Shazim. Actually can anyone recommend a good VO friendly RSS reader? On 27 Jul 2010, at 01:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: I enjoy skype, zanytouch and ootunes. I also use echophone, the yello pages app and soon to be navagon. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hello. :) I placed an order for an iPhone 4 this afternoon at my local att store. I plan on loading lots of apps on to my phone when i receive it. I was just wondering if any of you have any suggestions for accessible apps on the iPhone. I know there are tons of apps out there and not all of them are blind person friendly. So if anyone here has used one that seems to work well with voice over and is one you enjoy using, please let me know. Thanks in advance. Sonnia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps
Hi, Still awaiting my long, longed for, iPhone, but will certainly be looking to get the newest version of Spottify! However, I think it may only be available to the European market at the mo'! Also, is there one called say text or something like that which is an OCR program? The Dragon voice recognition programs look like a must have too! Then I will just need an app that gives me an electric shock when ever I light up a cigarette! Sandy. On 7/27/10, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Don't get ZanyTouch! It will drive you insane! LOL very addictive! That ooTunes is excellent, or there is TuneIn Radio which is free, Units is a very good convertor for lengths, time, weight etc, Facebook is fairly accessible, Skype works well, download iBooks, Shazim. Actually can anyone recommend a good VO friendly RSS reader? On 27 Jul 2010, at 01:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: I enjoy skype, zanytouch and ootunes. I also use echophone, the yello pages app and soon to be navagon. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hello. :) I placed an order for an iPhone 4 this afternoon at my local att store. I plan on loading lots of apps on to my phone when i receive it. I was just wondering if any of you have any suggestions for accessible apps on the iPhone. I know there are tons of apps out there and not all of them are blind person friendly. So if anyone here has used one that seems to work well with voice over and is one you enjoy using, please let me know. Thanks in advance. Sonnia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Magic Trackpad
Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
Good morning all, By chance, is there a difference between this magic trackpad and the magic mouse? On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
I just ordered mine... That plus a full size keyboard will make this mini even more awesome than before. Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Yes there is. The magic mouse is just a mouse with some features that are found on the macbook trackpad. The magic trackpad however, is a full fledged trackpad and will most likely support the trackpad commander. On 2010-07-27, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote: Good morning all, By chance, is there a difference between this magic trackpad and the magic mouse? On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, just larger Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
Hi Kev, Did you get the magic Track Pad at the Apple store? Or are they available at other places as well? It sounds intriguing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
Mary, I bought it from the apple store. As for its availability in other places, I'd suspect it will be but it may be a little more delayed. I'd just give your local store a call and see what they say. Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Kev, Did you get the magic Track Pad at the Apple store? Or are they available at other places as well? It sounds intriguing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
What does the magic trackpad do differently? Carolyn - Original Message - From: Chris Moore To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
I just called my local Best Buy in Downingtown, PA. That store is one of the ones with the special little apple store inside. They told me they do not have it in stock and it is not yet in their system. -Bryan On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Mary, I bought it from the apple store. As for its availability in other places, I'd suspect it will be but it may be a little more delayed. I'd just give your local store a call and see what they say. Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Kev, Did you get the magic Track Pad at the Apple store? Or are they available at other places as well? It sounds intriguing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
for those of us who have mac desktops or mini's, it gives us a trackpad like the one on the Macbook. Chriss Moore told me about it but I didn't expect it to be available until September. Since it is, I went ahead and ordered it. It is supposed to be here by August 3rd. Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Carolyn wrote: What does the magic trackpad do differently? Carolyn - Original Message - From: Chris Moore To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
THere is a difference, the Magic Mouse will not work with VO, but the Magic Trackpad will work. You need to enable it in VO with ctrl-opt-rotate gesture clockwise. VO will say track commander on. YOu can browse the VO help for the supported gestures. On Jul 27, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote: Good morning all, By chance, is there a difference between this magic trackpad and the magic mouse? On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Re: Magic Trackpad
So, is this a USB device I could use with my older Mac Book that won't let me enable the trackpad stuff? - Original Message - From: Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad Yes there is. The magic mouse is just a mouse with some features that are found on the macbook trackpad. The magic trackpad however, is a full fledged trackpad and will most likely support the trackpad commander. On 2010-07-27, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote: Good morning all, By chance, is there a difference between this magic trackpad and the magic mouse? On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, just larger Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps
the drag apps don't get. they have been rendered inaccessible. On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: Hi, Still awaiting my long, longed for, iPhone, but will certainly be looking to get the newest version of Spottify! However, I think it may only be available to the European market at the mo'! Also, is there one called say text or something like that which is an OCR program? The Dragon voice recognition programs look like a must have too! Then I will just need an app that gives me an electric shock when ever I light up a cigarette! Sandy. On 7/27/10, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Don't get ZanyTouch! It will drive you insane! LOL very addictive! That ooTunes is excellent, or there is TuneIn Radio which is free, Units is a very good convertor for lengths, time, weight etc, Facebook is fairly accessible, Skype works well, download iBooks, Shazim. Actually can anyone recommend a good VO friendly RSS reader? On 27 Jul 2010, at 01:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: I enjoy skype, zanytouch and ootunes. I also use echophone, the yello pages app and soon to be navagon. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hello. :) I placed an order for an iPhone 4 this afternoon at my local att store. I plan on loading lots of apps on to my phone when i receive it. I was just wondering if any of you have any suggestions for accessible apps on the iPhone. I know there are tons of apps out there and not all of them are blind person friendly. So if anyone here has used one that seems to work well with voice over and is one you enjoy using, please let me know. Thanks in advance. Sonnia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
I saw it was a bluetooth device... Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote: So, is this a USB device I could use with my older Mac Book that won't let me enable the trackpad stuff? - Original Message - From: Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad Yes there is. The magic mouse is just a mouse with some features that are found on the macbook trackpad. The magic trackpad however, is a full fledged trackpad and will most likely support the trackpad commander. On 2010-07-27, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote: Good morning all, By chance, is there a difference between this magic trackpad and the magic mouse? On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, just larger Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: best way to add an external link in facebook
Hi Peggy. Honestly I've had the same problem with posting links in facebook as well. I was using a windows pc at the time but my link wasn't linking. :) I am not sure if it's an encoding error on facebook's part but i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case as facebook has been messing up for me lately. The only other option i can think of is after the share button if you tab over a couple of times you will here choices like event, photo or link. These are accessories you can add to your posts so just click the one that says link. In your edit field, there well be an http:// entered for you and you can finish the rest of the link address. I don't know if clicking that will make a difference in how your post is encoded but it's worth a try. Peggy Fleischer wrote: I did paste the link and when I pushed the share button my post showed up but the link did not show as a link. It was an Amazon link for a book. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. On Jul 26, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hello. Yes, you do simply paste the link in to the edit field to share it... Then click share. But I've been noticing a problem: Voice Over doesn't seem to read/recognize the edit field where you can update your facebook status or the edit field where you post something on a friend's wall. If i navigate the page for edit fields (via the web item roter) or just move along the page line by line, that edit field is never spoken. VO skips over it. All the other content (such as the like button or comment edit fields) work fine. Sarah Alawami wrote: I think you just paste it in but not sure on that. Take care. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: Hi: Can someone please tell me how to share a link such as to an article in facebook? Thanks Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps
@ Sarah, Chris and Sandy, thank you so much for the great app suggestions! Now i can't wait for my iPhone to show up so i can try these apps. It's nice to know the facebook app is pretty accessible as facebook is generally where i spend too much of my time online haha. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
audio captchas
Hi, I was trying to sign up for a website in Safari, and I came across a captcha. It had an audio link, but pressing the link, both with VOSpace and down-up in quicknav yielded no results. Trying to download the file gave me an HTML file. Advice? Tips/tricks for dealing with CAPTCHAs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio captchas
Honestly? Write the site and tell them hat happened, educate them that these re a poor way to manage security, and recommend the more interactive things like a math problem. Many work from the idea that an audio edition is access, when it is not. just my vote, Karen On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi, I was trying to sign up for a website in Safari, and I came across a captcha. It had an audio link, but pressing the link, both with VOSpace and down-up in quicknav yielded no results. Trying to download the file gave me an HTML file. Advice? Tips/tricks for dealing with CAPTCHAs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio captchas
check out solona I use it all the time there is even a simple shell script to make it easier for you to do just take a snap shot type one command and boom your capcha will be solved by a human it really works http://www.solona.net thanks On Jul 27, 2010, at 5:31 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi, I was trying to sign up for a website in Safari, and I came across a captcha. It had an audio link, but pressing the link, both with VOSpace and down-up in quicknav yielded no results. Trying to download the file gave me an HTML file. Advice? Tips/tricks for dealing with CAPTCHAs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible piano apps for iPhone
I enjoy playing musical instruments, like the piano. Has anyone experimented with any of the musical instrument apps to see if any of them are voice over friendly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio captchas
John, Try sending a screen shot to these guys if you can't get any sighted help. www.solona.net is a captcha-solving service, that is staffed by live operators, not an automated thing. On 27 Jul 2010, at 22:31, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi, I was trying to sign up for a website in Safari, and I came across a captcha. It had an audio link, but pressing the link, both with VOSpace and down-up in quicknav yielded no results. Trying to download the file gave me an HTML file. Advice? Tips/tricks for dealing with CAPTCHAs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible piano apps for iPhone
Hi Sonnia like you i like to play a musical instrument. I came across thumbjam. it has many instruments. you can change scales, download loops, record what you play and even play with other fellow thumbjam users and lot more. the app is quite accessible with voice over. hth Sonnia wrote: I enjoy playing musical instruments, like the piano. Has anyone experimented with any of the musical instrument apps to see if any of them are voice over friendly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: best way to add an external link in facebook
Thank you. I'll give this a try. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Psalm 90 12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. On Jul 27, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hi Peggy. Honestly I've had the same problem with posting links in facebook as well. I was using a windows pc at the time but my link wasn't linking. :) I am not sure if it's an encoding error on facebook's part but i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case as facebook has been messing up for me lately. The only other option i can think of is after the share button if you tab over a couple of times you will here choices like event, photo or link. These are accessories you can add to your posts so just click the one that says link. In your edit field, there well be an http:// entered for you and you can finish the rest of the link address. I don't know if clicking that will make a difference in how your post is encoded but it's worth a try. Peggy Fleischer wrote: I did paste the link and when I pushed the share button my post showed up but the link did not show as a link. It was an Amazon link for a book. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. On Jul 26, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sonnia wrote: Hello. Yes, you do simply paste the link in to the edit field to share it... Then click share. But I've been noticing a problem: Voice Over doesn't seem to read/recognize the edit field where you can update your facebook status or the edit field where you post something on a friend's wall. If i navigate the page for edit fields (via the web item roter) or just move along the page line by line, that edit field is never spoken. VO skips over it. All the other content (such as the like button or comment edit fields) work fine. Sarah Alawami wrote: I think you just paste it in but not sure on that. Take care. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: Hi: Can someone please tell me how to share a link such as to an article in facebook? Thanks Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible piano apps for iPhone
Cool, gonna check this one out, I was gonna suggest just triple clicking the home button to deactivate VO whilst you hit the ivory keys on the iPhone and then triple clicking again when you are finished. But if there is already a VO happy app, then even better! On 27 Jul 2010, at 23:45, joseph wrote: Hi Sonnia like you i like to play a musical instrument. I came across thumbjam. it has many instruments. you can change scales, download loops, record what you play and even play with other fellow thumbjam users and lot more. the app is quite accessible with voice over. hth Sonnia wrote: I enjoy playing musical instruments, like the piano. Has anyone experimented with any of the musical instrument apps to see if any of them are voice over friendly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ram requirement for voice over
Any mac you will purchase, unless you buy a fairly old one that is used will have more than enough memory to support voice over, so you should be fine. On Jul 26, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi everyone, I am planning on buying a mac. I wanted to know if there is a minimum ram requirement to make sure voice over works smoothly. I know this was the case with windows screen readers last time I purchased a laptop. Thanks for the help. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ram requirement for voice over
So long as your mac can run tiger your good to go. Any new mac will be fine; i've run vo on 256mb before. On 28/07/2010, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Any mac you will purchase, unless you buy a fairly old one that is used will have more than enough memory to support voice over, so you should be fine. On Jul 26, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi everyone, I am planning on buying a mac. I wanted to know if there is a minimum ram requirement to make sure voice over works smoothly. I know this was the case with windows screen readers last time I purchased a laptop. Thanks for the help. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ram requirement for voice over
my first one had 2 gig and was comfortable for light apps. On 2010-07-26, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't kow the answer to that. mine comes with 4 gig and it seems to be more then enough. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi everyone, I am planning on buying a mac. I wanted to know if there is a minimum ram requirement to make sure voice over works smoothly. I know this was the case with windows screen readers last time I purchased a laptop. Thanks for the help. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio captchas
Hi John, How are you? I use Solona to solve camptchas. I have the same problem in Safari and WebKit with Captchas. I use Solona, takes longer than WebVisum on firefox but it's worth it. Î Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Jul 27, 2010, at 5:31 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi, I was trying to sign up for a website in Safari, and I came across a captcha. It had an audio link, but pressing the link, both with VOSpace and down-up in quicknav yielded no results. Trying to download the file gave me an HTML file. Advice? Tips/tricks for dealing with CAPTCHAs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
macbook versus Macbook pro
Hi All, I have just joined the list. I am useing a PC but hopeing to change to a mac soon. AS far as useing voice over, is there a difference between the macbook and the macbook pro? Does VO work better on one than the other? Thank you for any help, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook versus Macbook pro
Hello Laura, Yes, there's a difference between the Macbook and the Macbook pro. The pro is bigger, has a bigger screen, has more memory, and a bigger hard drive. It has a card reader. the Macbook doesn't have all this. I think the pro is $300 more. could be more. No, VoiceOver doesn't work any better on one or the other. It is designed to work with the Mac operating system. Isaac - Original Message - From: Laura Bratton laurarbrat...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: macbook versus Macbook pro Hi All, I have just joined the list. I am useing a PC but hopeing to change to a mac soon. AS far as useing voice over, is there a difference between the macbook and the macbook pro? Does VO work better on one than the other? Thank you for any help, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook versus Macbook pro
Hi Laura, The Macbook Pro features a Firewire port, the Macbook does not. That and the points mentioned earlier are the difference. Voiceover will run on any Mac, from their smallest laptop to their professional grade servers, once it is running any OS past OS X 10.4 Tiger. Good luck with the switch. You'll save quite a bit of money. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
trimming silent passages using Amadeus Pro
In the name of or the lack of sanity, can anyone who uses Amadeus pro tell me how to best use the trim silence feature? Is it possible for Amadeus pro to take silence out of a file if the level at which the silence removal is to be triggered is at -30 DB after a period of about 2 or more seconds? IF this cannot be done with the trim silence feature, can it be done with marker generation? IF so, how? HELP Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: A new mac accessory
He is right. I have spent a lot of time in the last few months studying different software development technologies on the Mac, including Applescript. VoiceOver can be controlled from scripts, but those scripts must be manually activated. VoiceOver has the keyboard commander, and scripts can also be started from other macro packages, but they can't be started in response to something happening on screen. With Windows screen readers, they can run a piece of script to read you a window, a status bar, etc when that area of the screen changes. With the Mac, though, , there isn't any way right now to trigger a script when something happens in the user interface. This means that it isn't possible to use scripts to automatically let you know when an important event happens, or to automatically read you important information. Beyond that, when people say that VoiceOver supports scripting, what is meant is that VoiceOver can be controlled from scripts. That is not the same thing as the scripting support in a Windows screen reader. Your script can tell VoiceOver to perform any of its commands. You can say move right or read contents of VoiceOver cursor, and those commands will be performed just like you triggered them from one of the commanders. You don't get access to the user interface's object model. You can't make a script that jumps you directly to a particular control, because you can't access the user interface object model to search for the control, and you can't command VoiceOver to move the VoiceOver cursor to an arbitrary user interface object. There are ways to work around some of this. You can use the System Events scripting support to manipulate the user interface, but it isn't a very straight forward approach, and most newbie developers won't wrap their heads around it easily. There are systems that simplify the manipulation of the UI. The PFiddlesoft frameworks provide an easy way to receive events from, and control the UI, through the same accessibility frameworks that are used by VoiceOver. However, you still can't run scripts in response to events, and there are licensing restrictions on the distribution of those frameworks. Macro packages like QuicKeys and Keyboard Maestro offer a lot more triggering options the the ultra-basic VoiceOver keyboard commander, but they cost between $40 and $60 per computer. So, right now, scripting for VO is extremely basic, and not useful for most situations where you'd really need scripting. Maybe Apple will come up with something better in a future version of VO. Maybe some of the makers of the macro apps will start to support UI and/or accessibility events as triggers. Either would help a lot. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of .dan. Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: A new mac accessory This all sounds good. If you learn apple script you can get the same thing with out putting out any bucks. How so? How can script duplicate universal fine grained control and power of dos screen access? Even when directly controled by keystrokes vo can not do this so how does having a script improve upon it? In performing some tasks that a macro script can do with a keystroke perhaps. In having that same script triggered by text appearing at a particular place on the screen, how? XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: accessible screen sharing software
No. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chad baker Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: accessible screen sharing software Hi is there any accessible screen sharing apps? Not sure if this has been covered. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New Tech Doctor podcast
Dr. Carter, thanks for the trip down memory lane. The Apple 2 was the first computer I ever had my hands on back in the mid 80's. I used one of the old IBM machines with the two 5-1/4 inch floppy drives on the front. I used ASAP for at least 10 years doing medical transcription. I'm from Larry Scucon's home town of Louisville, Kentucky. I began using JAWS back in about2000, version 3.7 as I recall. I now have a Macbook Pro and an iPod Touch. I didn't remember just how bad the speech was on that old Apple 2, but we were thrilled to have it. We've come a long way baby!!! I love my Macbook and VoiceOver. I'm getting ready to install Windows 7 under Fusion as soon as my ram and Windows installation CD arrives. The podcast was very entertaining. I enjoyed it very much On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi All, I have just published a new Tech Doctor podcast. It is a recording of a presentation that I gave at the ACB national convention in Phoenix. You can subscribe in iTunes by searching for Tech Doctor. The podcast website is http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trimming silent passages using Amadeus Pro
Hi Ray, I'm not sure how to trim silence unless I generate a marker and delete it. I tried to use the Trim Silence function in Amadeus but it didn't work. I hope that helps. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: In the name of or the lack of sanity, can anyone who uses Amadeus pro tell me how to best use the trim silence feature? Is it possible for Amadeus pro to take silence out of a file if the level at which the silence removal is to be triggered is at -30 DB after a period of about 2 or more seconds? IF this cannot be done with the trim silence feature, can it be done with marker generation? IF so, how? HELP Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trimming silent passages using Amadeus Pro
There is curently no way to do it as far as I can see. S On Jul 27, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Ray, I'm not sure how to trim silence unless I generate a marker and delete it. I tried to use the Trim Silence function in Amadeus but it didn't work. I hope that helps. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: In the name of or the lack of sanity, can anyone who uses Amadeus pro tell me how to best use the trim silence feature? Is it possible for Amadeus pro to take silence out of a file if the level at which the silence removal is to be triggered is at -30 DB after a period of about 2 or more seconds? IF this cannot be done with the trim silence feature, can it be done with marker generation? IF so, how? HELP Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: NAS and Time Machine
Hi Kevin. I looked in to this a while back. It's too bad about its limitations, as Time Capsule would be great for this task. It's an all-in-one appliance for most home-server tasks: router, wireless access point, print server, and simple NAS. If it could work as an FTP server, and could work reliably as a file server, then it would cover everything. It only has one internal drive, but you can get the drive redundancy by attaching an external drive to its USB port, and it will mirror the internal drive to the external. The main problem for me, which I'm sure that you've encountered, is that the router portion sucks. It is missing lots of features that are standard on most other routers now, but the one that I absolutely can't live without is quality of service control. Without QOS, voice over IP and games can't get stable performance. Any other network service can momentarily suck all of the bandwidth, and cause your call to break up, or your game to freeze up. Of course, you can disable the router function, and attach it to your existing router, but, as you've discovered, without the router functions, you're much better off financially to buy a NAS and cheap print server. Anyway, about how to get your NAS to work. The NAS will work if it can do two things. First, you have to be able to format the drives as Mac HFS journaled. Time machine depends on features in the HFS files system in order to handle its incremental backups. Second, as far as I understand, the NAS needs to be able to support AFP. I can't remember the reason at the moment, but I remember reading that, while the Mac can connect to NFS and SMB shares, Time Machine can't. I've seen some NASes now listing Time Machine support specifically. Looking for that on the spec would be your safest bet. Some of them even list that they'll work as an iTunes server (hosting your library). You still should try Googling for more info, though. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: NAS and Time Machine Similar to Time Capsule, but not an Apple product. The drive will show up as a standard disk in Finder, but I am wondering if Time Machine will do automatic backups to that drive. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: screen curtain
Yep. It doesn't turn off the screen, it only displays solid black. The backlight is still on, using power, though. To prove that, get someone sighted to look at the screen from an extreme angle (it will glow), or look at the Apple logo on the back of the monitor (it is lit by the display backlight, and will still glow). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: screen curtain For saving the battery, rather than using the screen curtain, I would turn the display brightness all the way down to 0, that will totally turn off the screen lighting. On Jul 25, 2010, at 4:20 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hello! I enable my screen curtain because A: I don't like people being able to look over my shoulder while I'm using my computer, and B: I assume that it saves a bit of battery power. However, I was under the impression that the screen curtain would behave like it does on the IPhone and reactivate whenever I turn on voiceover or my computer. Should this in fact be the case? Or is it normal to have to restart the screen curtain each time you restart voiceover/the computer? Thanks again for all the help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Magic Trackpad
This is true, but and important thing to know is that the Magic Track Pad is 80% larger than the MacBook track pad, which is already quite a bit larger than the typical laptop track pad. VO is easier to work with the MacBook track pad than with the iPhone, due to the increased size, and I expect that the Magic Track Pad will be even easier. I expect that the Magic Track Pad, since it works over blue tooth, will make the ideal remote control for the new rumored Apple TV box, when/if it comes out. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad for those of us who have mac desktops or mini's, it gives us a trackpad like the one on the Macbook. Chriss Moore told me about it but I didn't expect it to be available until September. Since it is, I went ahead and ordered it. It is supposed to be here by August 3rd. Kev On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Carolyn wrote: What does the magic trackpad do differently? Carolyn - Original Message - From: Chris Moore mailto:moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Magic Trackpad I have just spoken to someone in Apple Sales in Ireland, and YES it supports VO :) On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:20, Blake Sinnett wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if anyone plans to try the Magic Trackpad and see if it works with VoiceOver? I'd love to have one if it works. There's a software update for the Magic Trackpad, and you must be running 10.6.4. Thanks, Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
