Re: iMac mc508
This is awesome. Incidentally, I bought two Apple wireless keyboards at the same shop same day just before buying this iMac to be used with our iPads here at home. The seller told me the keyboard inside the iMac is just the same as the ones I bought, here I wonder how do they pair a particular device before installation? What happens if I used one of the other keyboards? Just wondering. Original message: George, The iMac will come automatically paired with the Bluetooth devices that came with it. Thus, you don't require the USB keyboard or anything other than what comes in the box to set it up. Thanks. On 2011-05-31, at 9:42 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi folks! I bought this 21.5inch iMac and I was told it comes with Apple wireless keyboard and Apple wireless mouse. I do not have an Apple usb keyboard, how do I do about the pairing process so I can initiate VoiceOver to do setup? Will the keyboard and mouse communicate immediately with this iMac? Many thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install.
Hi Mark. In the past I used XP with bootcamp and I was very happy with it. I have a question for you and for anybody who can give an answer: When bootcamp wants to install whatever version of Windows it supposes that Windows is located on a cd inside the mac, is there anyway to boot into Windows from usb flash drive or hard disk instead? Thanks. Original message: Hello Zachary, Let me say that I am a Jaws user so my experience with fusion is based on Jaws and not other very popular screen readers for Windows. The primary reason that I recommend Boot Camp to Fusion is because of the skill level that is required for one to efficiently navigate between the Mac OS via VoiceOver and Windows 7 via Jaws. Ad to this the fact that, unless one has a standard Windows keyboard (not commonly used with notebook computers), the Jaws Key along with others, in some cases, must be re-mapped. For many, this requires installing a third-party Windows application that requires even more knowledge. Now I know that there are many who will disagree with my conclusion but I can only judge based on my experience in training beginner-level VoiceOver/Windows 7/Jaws users. If one is an intermediate Jaws user with thorough knowledge of how advanced key-mapping is done and if one has a comprehensive understanding of how Windows 7 works coupled with a more than basic understanding of VM Ware Fusion in terms of what it does and how it does it coupled with a comfortable VoiceOver/Mac OSX framework, then I see no problem recommending Fusion. However, it has been my experience that most often, new Mac users who have a very basic understanding of Jaws attempt to use Fusion thinking it is magic. It is not, by any means, magic. One scenario I encounter again and again is one in which someone sets up Fusion on a Mac for a new Mac user. The trainer provides the general step on how to access Windows from the Mac. All appears well until the newbie forgets to turn off VoiceOver or something in Windows requires attention that is not easily accessed or the newbie forgets to shut down Windows in the virtual machine, properly. Generally, I recommend methods that, although not the coolest, will get someone up and running with confidence in the most stable and consistent environment. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install. Hi Mark, May I ask what challenges you refer to? I'm curious about this point, as a fusion user on a 4 GB MacBook Pro. I've occasionally been interested in Bootcamp, but was always put off by the lack of a fully accessible installation procedure. FUsion has served me very well, and I view it as more convenient than Bootcamp would be in any case. It'd be nice to hear your perspective. Best, Zack. On Jun 1, 2011, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello, Given that you have a MacBook with 4GB of Ram, I recommend that you install Windows 7 32-bit. The simple answer is no, you will not be able to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp without sighted assistance. While some may recommend using Fusion as an alternative to Boot Camp so as to allow you to install Windows autonomously, Fusion does introduce several challenges that you may not wish to encounter. While I use both Fusion and Boot Camp, generally speaking, unless one has a specific need, on a 4GB MacBook, I recommend the Boot Camp method. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install. Hello and sorry if anybody regards my message as off topic but I love using windows on a mac more than on a pc. I have the macbook white 13inch since February 2009 and I upgraded its memory to 4GB which is the max and is running Snow Leopard on it. I bought yesterday an iMAC MC508 as well which came with Apple wireless keyboard and Apple wireless mouse. I was told to power the keyboard and mouse and the iMAC is going to find them by itself is that correct? I am asking that because I don't have a wired Apple keyboard to initiate command+F5. Now I am planning to install Windows7 and I think will choose the ultimate, I will use bootcamp sure but wonder do I install 32 or 64 bits? Do I need sighted help to install Windows7? My question about 32 or 64bits is important for me because I use Braille often, thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because
New Apple accessibility site with a twist
Hello all I am just writing to inform you all of a new website that has been created for blind users of Apple products. the website is called iblinky.com and it is just in the beginning stages but they are looking to do some interesting stuff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question about pages and voiceover formatting
Good morning, I was working in pages last evening with a document which has 2 equally spaced columns on the page. However instead of saying column 1 and column 2, voiceover says page 1 and page 2. How does one tell the difference between that and say a 2 page document with just one column. also how does one announce the font size and attributes in pages. thanks rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Double messages in Apple Mail inbox
For some reason, all e-mail messages in my Inbox which were generated before today are suddenly showing twice. I tried quitting out of Mail and going back in, but this is still happening. Does anyone have an explanaiton and a way to get rid of this problem without deleting individual messages, or all of the messages? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iMac mc508
Hi, The iMac would not recognize the other keyboards during the set-up process. If you so chose, you could go in the Bluetooth setup app after setup is complete and change to one of the other keyboards and/or name each one for your own purposes. Later... On 2011-06-02, at 12:31 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: This is awesome. Incidentally, I bought two Apple wireless keyboards at the same shop same day just before buying this iMac to be used with our iPads here at home. The seller told me the keyboard inside the iMac is just the same as the ones I bought, here I wonder how do they pair a particular device before installation? What happens if I used one of the other keyboards? Just wondering. Original message: George, The iMac will come automatically paired with the Bluetooth devices that came with it. Thus, you don't require the USB keyboard or anything other than what comes in the box to set it up. Thanks. On 2011-05-31, at 9:42 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi folks! I bought this 21.5inch iMac and I was told it comes with Apple wireless keyboard and Apple wireless mouse. I do not have an Apple usb keyboard, how do I do about the pairing process so I can initiate VoiceOver to do setup? Will the keyboard and mouse communicate immediately with this iMac? Many thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: pondering switching to a macbook pro from windows XP
Thank you Mark, I am gathering and reading information now and will be able to meet with someone possibly the later part of June who can answer questions. I will also try to find someone else as you suggest and am asking lots of questions and doing a lot of reading. I have gathered sites mentioned here and info in post and am also listening to those currently using win7 and a screen reader. I am also looking at ways to fund whichever choice I make and yes the Mac one is more costly. Thank you Mark and also Thanks to Ray for the good info. I appreciate those posting and the information shared. I want to make a good informed decision. Laura Ann Laura Ann Grymes, LMT http://www.lauraannjuiceplus.com http://www.facebook.com/agapewellness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install.
Hello, Before replying, I searched Google using your very excellent question. I am happy to say that, based on my short research, that the answer is yes; it is possible to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp using a USB thumb-drive that contains an ISO or disc image of Windows 7. I suggest that you Google your question before beginning, take copious notes, and go for it. Apparently, this is the method used by new MacBook Air users. Mark On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi Mark. In the past I used XP with bootcamp and I was very happy with it. I have a question for you and for anybody who can give an answer: When bootcamp wants to install whatever version of Windows it supposes that Windows is located on a cd inside the mac, is there anyway to boot into Windows from usb flash drive or hard disk instead? Thanks. Original message: Hello Zachary, Let me say that I am a Jaws user so my experience with fusion is based on Jaws and not other very popular screen readers for Windows. The primary reason that I recommend Boot Camp to Fusion is because of the skill level that is required for one to efficiently navigate between the Mac OS via VoiceOver and Windows 7 via Jaws. Ad to this the fact that, unless one has a standard Windows keyboard (not commonly used with notebook computers), the Jaws Key along with others, in some cases, must be re-mapped. For many, this requires installing a third-party Windows application that requires even more knowledge. Now I know that there are many who will disagree with my conclusion but I can only judge based on my experience in training beginner-level VoiceOver/Windows 7/Jaws users. If one is an intermediate Jaws user with thorough knowledge of how advanced key-mapping is done and if one has a comprehensive understanding of how Windows 7 works coupled with a more than basic understanding of VM Ware Fusion in terms of what it does and how it does it coupled with a comfortable VoiceOver/Mac OSX framework, then I see no problem recommending Fusion. However, it has been my experience that most often, new Mac users who have a very basic understanding of Jaws attempt to use Fusion thinking it is magic. It is not, by any means, magic. One scenario I encounter again and again is one in which someone sets up Fusion on a Mac for a new Mac user. The trainer provides the general step on how to access Windows from the Mac. All appears well until the newbie forgets to turn off VoiceOver or something in Windows requires attention that is not easily accessed or the newbie forgets to shut down Windows in the virtual machine, properly. Generally, I recommend methods that, although not the coolest, will get someone up and running with confidence in the most stable and consistent environment. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install. Hi Mark, May I ask what challenges you refer to? I'm curious about this point, as a fusion user on a 4 GB MacBook Pro. I've occasionally been interested in Bootcamp, but was always put off by the lack of a fully accessible installation procedure. FUsion has served me very well, and I view it as more convenient than Bootcamp would be in any case. It'd be nice to hear your perspective. Best, Zack. On Jun 1, 2011, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello, Given that you have a MacBook with 4GB of Ram, I recommend that you install Windows 7 32-bit. The simple answer is no, you will not be able to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp without sighted assistance. While some may recommend using Fusion as an alternative to Boot Camp so as to allow you to install Windows autonomously, Fusion does introduce several challenges that you may not wish to encounter. While I use both Fusion and Boot Camp, generally speaking, unless one has a specific need, on a 4GB MacBook, I recommend the Boot Camp method. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install. Hello and sorry if anybody regards my message as off topic but I love using windows on a mac more than on a pc. I have the macbook white 13inch since February 2009 and I upgraded its memory to 4GB which is the max and is running Snow Leopard on it. I bought yesterday an iMAC MC508 as well which came with Apple wireless keyboard and Apple wireless mouse. I was told to power the keyboard and mouse and the iMAC is going to find them by itself is that correct? I am asking that because I don't have a wired Apple keyboard to initiate command+F5. Now I am planning to
Re: Double messages in Apple Mail inbox
THis can happen on POP servers if if you keep messages on the server and one of your mail preference files gets corrupted. I have seen some applescripts perhaps even mentioned on this list that will analyze your Inbox and delete duplicates. If the duplicate count is below 50 messages then It might just make sense to do the work manually. Best wishes, Jonathan On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: For some reason, all e-mail messages in my Inbox which were generated before today are suddenly showing twice. I tried quitting out of Mail and going back in, but this is still happening. Does anyone have an explanaiton and a way to get rid of this problem without deleting individual messages, or all of the messages? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pondering switching to a macbook pro from windows XP
I would like to point out one thing. the Apple store takes Billmelater www.billmelater.com as a form of payment. This means that you can pay over time. They check your credit to see if you can do it. A mixed blessing; but, a good way to pay if you're in a squeez. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Laura Ann wrote: Thank you Mark, I am gathering and reading information now and will be able to meet with someone possibly the later part of June who can answer questions. I will also try to find someone else as you suggest and am asking lots of questions and doing a lot of reading. I have gathered sites mentioned here and info in post and am also listening to those currently using win7 and a screen reader. I am also looking at ways to fund whichever choice I make and yes the Mac one is more costly. Thank you Mark and also Thanks to Ray for the good info. I appreciate those posting and the information shared. I want to make a good informed decision. Laura Ann Laura Ann Grymes, LMT http://www.lauraannjuiceplus.com http://www.facebook.com/agapewellness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iMac mc508
George, I believe that the Bluetooth config info is stored within the firmware so the keyboard and mouse will remain paired even when the HD is restored/replaced. I'm not positive but 90% sure of this. I've not had occasion to test this as far as I can remember but it is a logical conclusion in my mind. If you consider that the new iMac is basically a computer with a brand new imaged HD, that info is not yet within any Preference files so it must reside within the firmware somewhere. HTH. Later... - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011 7:39 am Subject: Re: iMac mc508 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com No I am not going to use any other keyboard and/or mouse than the one followed in the box but what happens in the case of reformatting in the future? Now it is completely new but just in case, thanks. Original message: Hi, The iMac would not recognize the other keyboards during the set- up process. If you so chose, you could go in the Bluetooth setup app after setup is complete and change to one of the other keyboards and/or name each one for your own purposes. Later... On 2011-06-02, at 12:31 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: This is awesome. Incidentally, I bought two Apple wireless keyboards at the same shop same day just before buying this iMac to be used with our iPads here at home. The seller told me the keyboard inside the iMac is just the same as the ones I bought, here I wonder how do they pair a particular device before installation? What happens if I used one of the other keyboards? Just wondering. Original message: George, The iMac will come automatically paired with the Bluetooth devices that came with it. Thus, you don't require the USB keyboard or anything other than what comes in the box to set it up. Thanks. On 2011-05-31, at 9:42 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi folks! I bought this 21.5inch iMac and I was told it comes with Apple wireless keyboard and Apple wireless mouse. I do not have an Apple usb keyboard, how do I do about the pairing process so I can initiate VoiceOver to do setup? Will the keyboard and mouse communicate immediately with this iMac? Many thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.for more options, visit this group at
Re: question about pages and voiceover formatting
Howdy, If you move the vo cursor from one body text to the next, you can tell that they are side by side. This is because you don't hear the rap sound, assuming you have navigation sounds turned on. Vo sees each page as a group as you interact with they lay-out area. You have to interact with a page to see the header, footer, etc. Also, it's not clear to me whether or not you imported an external document, or created it yourself. In any event, you might look in the lay-out inspector and make sure that the lay-out is set for two columns. If set for only one, a page break will be inserted instead of a column break. To hear text attributes, vo-v and left or right arrow. On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:24 AM, richard watson wrote: Good morning, I was working in pages last evening with a document which has 2 equally spaced columns on the page. However instead of saying column 1 and column 2, voiceover says page 1 and page 2. How does one tell the difference between that and say a 2 page document with just one column. also how does one announce the font size and attributes in pages. thanks rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about pages and voiceover formatting
I imported a word document that I had created. On 6/2/11, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, If you move the vo cursor from one body text to the next, you can tell that they are side by side. This is because you don't hear the rap sound, assuming you have navigation sounds turned on. Vo sees each page as a group as you interact with they lay-out area. You have to interact with a page to see the header, footer, etc. Also, it's not clear to me whether or not you imported an external document, or created it yourself. In any event, you might look in the lay-out inspector and make sure that the lay-out is set for two columns. If set for only one, a page break will be inserted instead of a column break. To hear text attributes, vo-v and left or right arrow. On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:24 AM, richard watson wrote: Good morning, I was working in pages last evening with a document which has 2 equally spaced columns on the page. However instead of saying column 1 and column 2, voiceover says page 1 and page 2. How does one tell the difference between that and say a 2 page document with just one column. also how does one announce the font size and attributes in pages. thanks rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice Over and Pages
Hello. @Anne, i also use the blank template. I noticed i don't have this problem (not finding where to type) with a document that already has text in it. It's just blank docs that give me a hard time. @ Matthew i have no clue which version of Iworks i have, i recently went under the apple menu and selected the software update feature so i am assuming all is up to date. Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Sonnia, What kind of document did you open in Pages? I always select the blank document. After interacting with Page 1, you should be able to find more elements with which to interact. Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast about Pages and Keynote? It might make things clearer. Cheers, Anne On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Sonnia wrote: Hi Zack! I do hear exactly what you mentioned: page 1 group. I interact with it and hear interact with group. I can't find anything else (i type and don't hear my typing spoken back.) I just hear one of those sound effects trying to tell me my key input doesn't produce anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Which Version Of Windows7 To Install.
You will need a Windows screenreader for your virtual, Windows machine. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Laura Ann wrote: when running both win7 and fusion does the mac screen reader voice over work or do you need a windows screen reader like jaws? Laura Ann At 06:58 AM 6/1/2011, you wrote: george try to install win7 with fusion. this way you could have mac and windows running at the same time plus you do not require sighted person's help installing windows on fusion. Laura Ann Grymes, LMT http://www.lauraannjuiceplus.com http://www.facebook.com/agapewellness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice Over and Pages
Hi Sonia, Have you done any work with columns and formatting text such as knowing what font and style things are set to. I am a new pages user as well, a recent mac convert. thanks rick On 6/2/11, Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. @Anne, i also use the blank template. I noticed i don't have this problem (not finding where to type) with a document that already has text in it. It's just blank docs that give me a hard time. @ Matthew i have no clue which version of Iworks i have, i recently went under the apple menu and selected the software update feature so i am assuming all is up to date. Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Sonnia, What kind of document did you open in Pages? I always select the blank document. After interacting with Page 1, you should be able to find more elements with which to interact. Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast about Pages and Keynote? It might make things clearer. Cheers, Anne On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Sonnia wrote: Hi Zack! I do hear exactly what you mentioned: page 1 group. I interact with it and hear interact with group. I can't find anything else (i type and don't hear my typing spoken back.) I just hear one of those sound effects trying to tell me my key input doesn't produce anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver
My Bug list for Inaccessible/Unuseable iOS iWork, VoiceOver Accessibility. iWork (Pages, Numbers, and KeyNote) 1.4, iOS (iPad 2 and iPhone 4) 4.3.3, VoiceOver Pages * Unfortunate, doesn't work well. Can't select objects and perform actions on them. * If I select object, swipe or touch anywhere, except info button. Selection will be cleared. * Inserting tables, charts, etc is possible, but non-descriptive buttons and no way to edit diagram data. * It's possible to show/hide ruler, but not accessible. Only italic/bold/underline and justification is spoken. * Many unlabeled controls under Info pop-up. * No way to check pixel/inch position of body of text. * No way to Perform action on object, even to check font/paragraph info line/word * Line navigation using Apple bluetooth keyboard is slow. Touch screen is fluid. * No HTML navigation. No Dropbox sharing. KeyNote * Adding slide, grid of various slide type appear, which one can *not* swipe to. Must touch/drag. * Adding content to one slide, then trying to add content to another slide, KeyNote will crash, report file is corrupt, and close. * If start slide show is activated, VoiceOver doesn't read any part of app, including slide content, slide controls, speaker notes, etc Numbers * cell selection is not possible * manipulation/formatting of non-selected cells is not possible *row navigation is *not possible. Conclusion: #iWork for iOS, even iPhone V1.4 is an improvement. However, lots of work yet for #VoiceOver#accessibility needs to be done, before it's even considered usable, but after a lot more work for true accessibility Unfortunately, #iPad#VoiceOver#accessibility of #iWork entire suite is very poor All same issues as that was detailed for iPhone version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver
Kevin I hope if you submit all of this you provide a little more detail such as steps if applicable etc. You have made some good observations, but some things may not be as obvious and I believe if APple gets good feedback it is possible the issues will be addressed. Good points and I think progress has been made, but far from being completed. On Jun 2, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: My Bug list for Inaccessible/Unuseable iOS iWork, VoiceOver Accessibility. iWork (Pages, Numbers, and KeyNote) 1.4, iOS (iPad 2 and iPhone 4) 4.3.3, VoiceOver Pages * Unfortunate, doesn't work well. Can't select objects and perform actions on them. * If I select object, swipe or touch anywhere, except info button. Selection will be cleared. * Inserting tables, charts, etc is possible, but non-descriptive buttons and no way to edit diagram data. * It's possible to show/hide ruler, but not accessible. Only italic/bold/underline and justification is spoken. * Many unlabeled controls under Info pop-up. * No way to check pixel/inch position of body of text. * No way to Perform action on object, even to check font/paragraph info line/word * Line navigation using Apple bluetooth keyboard is slow. Touch screen is fluid. * No HTML navigation. No Dropbox sharing. KeyNote * Adding slide, grid of various slide type appear, which one can *not* swipe to. Must touch/drag. * Adding content to one slide, then trying to add content to another slide, KeyNote will crash, report file is corrupt, and close. * If start slide show is activated, VoiceOver doesn't read any part of app, including slide content, slide controls, speaker notes, etc Numbers * cell selection is not possible * manipulation/formatting of non-selected cells is not possible *row navigation is *not possible. Conclusion: #iWork for iOS, even iPhone V1.4 is an improvement. However, lots of work yet for #VoiceOver#accessibility needs to be done, before it's even considered usable, but after a lot more work for true accessibility Unfortunately, #iPad#VoiceOver#accessibility of #iWork entire suite is very poor All same issues as that was detailed for iPhone version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice Over and Pages
Actually i have not done any formatting stuff because i can't get past this problem i am having (i can't type anywhere.) I love my macbook, i use it for movies and itunes etc. It's great but this word processing issue is annoying. richard watson wrote: Hi Sonia, Have you done any work with columns and formatting text such as knowing what font and style things are set to. I am a new pages user as well, a recent mac convert. thanks rick On 6/2/11, Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. @Anne, i also use the blank template. I noticed i don't have this problem (not finding where to type) with a document that already has text in it. It's just blank docs that give me a hard time. @ Matthew i have no clue which version of Iworks i have, i recently went under the apple menu and selected the software update feature so i am assuming all is up to date. Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Sonnia, What kind of document did you open in Pages? I always select the blank document. After interacting with Page 1, you should be able to find more elements with which to interact. Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast about Pages and Keynote? It might make things clearer. Cheers, Anne On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Sonnia wrote: Hi Zack! I do hear exactly what you mentioned: page 1 group. I interact with it and hear interact with group. I can't find anything else (i type and don't hear my typing spoken back.) I just hear one of those sound effects trying to tell me my key input doesn't produce anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice Over and Pages
Hi, Sonnia, When you enter the blank template, go to where it says body and then interact with it by pressing VO-shift-down-arrow. Now you can type and do whatever you like, and it should show up. hTH, Teresa On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Sonnia wrote: Actually i have not done any formatting stuff because i can't get past this problem i am having (i can't type anywhere.) I love my macbook, i use it for movies and itunes etc. It's great but this word processing issue is annoying. richard watson wrote: Hi Sonia, Have you done any work with columns and formatting text such as knowing what font and style things are set to. I am a new pages user as well, a recent mac convert. thanks rick On 6/2/11, Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. @Anne, i also use the blank template. I noticed i don't have this problem (not finding where to type) with a document that already has text in it. It's just blank docs that give me a hard time. @ Matthew i have no clue which version of Iworks i have, i recently went under the apple menu and selected the software update feature so i am assuming all is up to date. Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Sonnia, What kind of document did you open in Pages? I always select the blank document. After interacting with Page 1, you should be able to find more elements with which to interact. Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast about Pages and Keynote? It might make things clearer. Cheers, Anne On 1 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Sonnia wrote: Hi Zack! I do hear exactly what you mentioned: page 1 group. I interact with it and hear interact with group. I can't find anything else (i type and don't hear my typing spoken back.) I just hear one of those sound effects trying to tell me my key input doesn't produce anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iWork for iOS - Inaccessible/Unuseable with VoiceOver
Kevin: I'd suggest you copy this to Accessibility, where it might prove helpful in getting things fixed. On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: My Bug list for Inaccessible/Unuseable iOS iWork, VoiceOver Accessibility. iWork (Pages, Numbers, and KeyNote) 1.4, iOS (iPad 2 and iPhone 4) 4.3.3, VoiceOver Pages * Unfortunate, doesn't work well. Can't select objects and perform actions on them. * If I select object, swipe or touch anywhere, except info button. Selection will be cleared. * Inserting tables, charts, etc is possible, but non-descriptive buttons and no way to edit diagram data. * It's possible to show/hide ruler, but not accessible. Only italic/bold/underline and justification is spoken. * Many unlabeled controls under Info pop-up. * No way to check pixel/inch position of body of text. * No way to Perform action on object, even to check font/paragraph info line/word * Line navigation using Apple bluetooth keyboard is slow. Touch screen is fluid. * No HTML navigation. No Dropbox sharing. KeyNote * Adding slide, grid of various slide type appear, which one can *not* swipe to. Must touch/drag. * Adding content to one slide, then trying to add content to another slide, KeyNote will crash, report file is corrupt, and close. * If start slide show is activated, VoiceOver doesn't read any part of app, including slide content, slide controls, speaker notes, etc Numbers * cell selection is not possible * manipulation/formatting of non-selected cells is not possible *row navigation is *not possible. Conclusion: #iWork for iOS, even iPhone V1.4 is an improvement. However, lots of work yet for #VoiceOver#accessibility needs to be done, before it's even considered usable, but after a lot more work for true accessibility Unfortunately, #iPad#VoiceOver#accessibility of #iWork entire suite is very poor All same issues as that was detailed for iPhone version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
HTML Source and Keyboard Questions
Hello list, How exactly can I get the URL of a webpage so that I can copy it and paste it somewhere else? On another note, can someone please remind me which keys on the MacBook pro function as HOME, END, PAGE UP and PAGE Down? I'm that sure how I got along without those keys. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Ezzie Bueno But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father. --Jesus in Matthew 10:33 Phone: (512) 553-8553 Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
mp3 to text?
Odd question perhaps, but is there a utility that will do this, on the mac or anything else for that matter? I have an mp3 file of a very poor quality, even more so than usual for a lossey one, wondered since it is all spoken, if I might convert it to something readable instead? Thanks, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
