Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Hey Donna and Jürgen. I don't know of any accessible games for Mac in the App Store but have you tried RS Games? It's a bunch of pretty good games. You can download it from rsgames.org Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messages beta question
Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new version of motion gps drive
Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Hi Jurgen, Thanks. I have lots of games on my iPhone, and yes, Papa Sangre was a great one. I was just on my Mac at the moment, and it occurred to me that it would be nice to have a game to play. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Donna, an interesting question. I don't know an answer but I'm also interested in accessible games. Just to mentioned it: On the iPhone is Papa Sangre highly interesting and nicely produced. All the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 23:48 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hey all, I pulled a muscle in my back so am spending the weekend convalescing. Anyone know of any games in the app store that are accessible on the Mac? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
Universal access, I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what that is? Could you explain what that is and how to get to it please. All I know is that when I am sitting on growl and I use command , it goes straight to the OS 10 preferences and if I use the VO m command for the apple menu to go to preferences it jumps to another apple menu entirely. thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Can you get to the growl in system pref's! And see if there is anything you need to do in there! It should be after universal access [well it is in mine] hth Colin On 18 Feb 2012, at 18:19, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thanks, OK, when I am on Growl and I use my VO m key, it reverts back to whatever I was using before growl like, for instance, mail. Oh Lord this is confusing. I must've really screwed the setup of that things up. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Hi there. I'm on my way out, but try this: When you open Growl and it says it's running in the background, go to the menu bar with VO M, then over to the Growl menu, then arrow down and see if you can open preferences from there. That might work better, or it might not... Hope this helps. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Hi Shawn, I hadn't heard of these. thanks, I'll try them out! Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Donna and Jürgen. I don't know of any accessible games for Mac in the App Store but have you tried RS Games? It's a bunch of pretty good games. You can download it from rsgames.org Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo Support for Brailliant 40?
Hi. I do not know, why apple has not included new drivers and also some corrections in braille in the last update for the mac, it is very disappointing. I think Brailliant will be supported in the next IOS update. I think we will see that in martz. Please send apple a mail about your problem, it often helps. The mailaddress is: accessibil...@apple.com Best regards Annie. Den Feb 15, 2012 kl. 7:01 PM skrev Matt Dierckens: Hi Shana, My best bet is to just wait until we hear something from apple about this. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2012-02-14, at 11:25 AM, Shanna Stichler wrote: I did that, yes. VO can't seem to detect the display, even though if I pair it as I would any other bluetooth device, my computer has no problems. Also, my IPhone will not find the device at all. Shanna -Original Message- From: chris hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Vo Support for Brailliant 40? Did you go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille? This is the place to pair Braille displays, and not via settings, general, bluetooth. Christopher H On 14/02/2012 12:57, Shanna Stichler wrote: Hi all, I recently acquired a Brailliant 40 BI display. My distributor told me that this product would pair with IOS devices and my MacBook, however this does not appear to be the case. I have no problems using the Brailliant with a Windows machine, but so far have had absolutely no luck with anything Apple. I have done my own research, and it seems that this particular display is not yet supported with VO, but I thought I’d check on this list. Has anyone had luck with one of these things. I really hope so, because I absolutely fell in love with the display, and I’d love to keep it. Shanna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messages beta question
Cool. But why would anyone want to put a empty line in a text message? That sounds a bit much. If I was sighted, and reading a text on a phone like that, it would definitely make me scratch my head. lol. But to each their own. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bluetooth Braille Display Randomly Getting Stuck with Most Recent Lion?
Hi. I had that problem too. I figured out to add the display in bluetooth on the mac, and then add it again in VoiceOver, that solved the problem. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 14, 2012 kl. 6:53 PM skrev Teresa Cochran: Hi, all, Is anyone else experiencing this one? Ever since I upgraded to the current version of Lion, I have occasional unresponsiveness of my Focus 40. Bluetooth status menu says it's connected, but it takes a reboot of my Mac mini to resolve the issue. Thanks, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
Hi Jennifer! Well hope this is useful! Open the main menu with either vo+m or control+f2 then when sitting on the Apple menu scroll down to system pref's and vo+space or return! In the next window you will have to just arrow once to the preference pain and interact with it! And in there is lots of selections for you to go into if needed! I.E. keyboard, accounts, Bluetooth and others! usually the last one is universal access but Growl should be after this under the heading of [others] and it should say growl button! vo+space on that and you should get into growl to see what you can do! If you have not had much use of system pref's there is things you might want to look at in there! And do not forget the only dumb question is one that is not asked! :] People will try to help if they can! Colin On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:31, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Universal access, I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what that is? Could you explain what that is and how to get to it please. All I know is that when I am sitting on growl and I use command , it goes straight to the OS 10 preferences and if I use the VO m command for the apple menu to go to preferences it jumps to another apple menu entirely. thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Can you get to the growl in system pref's! And see if there is anything you need to do in there! It should be after universal access [well it is in mine] hth Colin On 18 Feb 2012, at 18:19, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thanks, OK, when I am on Growl and I use my VO m key, it reverts back to whatever I was using before growl like, for instance, mail. Oh Lord this is confusing. I must've really screwed the setup of that things up. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Hi there. I'm on my way out, but try this: When you open Growl and it says it's running in the background, go to the menu bar with VO M, then over to the Growl menu, then arrow down and see if you can open preferences from there. That might work better, or it might not... Hope this helps. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
lol, Who writes or, calls a company telling them they do not have to fix a problem. That would be a bit, well, over the top, no? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:04 PM, David Tanner wrote: That is not acceptable. Converting to text files may destroy the formating and make getting the correct information from a table difficult or impossible. This is a serious problem, and has been a known problem often and repeatedly reported to Apple. I sincerely hope you are not someone telling Apple that they don't need to fix the problem. If so, please let them know that it needs fixing if Apple is to be seriously considered by folks it is absolutely necessary that a person be able to read and edit tables, and do advanced editing or it is not going to work for a lot of people. Simple text editing is not good enough. David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Tables? I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not to recommend mac. I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. Then I have a thing that in my opinion is hanging back. I think you have guessed what it is. Wright it is braille. There are a lot of apples choices i simply do not understand. Why are we not allowed as users to modify apples braille tables, there are really many bugs. I would also like to see a function, so that we can add hotkeys to mac commands not only VOICEOver commands. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?
Hi. I have tried for half a year to get that to work, even with a USB printer it is not possible to solve that problem, I have also tried in VMWare, with the same result. It seems as if the printer needs a driver. If any of you have a solution, so that the brailleprinter will work in windows in VMWare, I would love to hear about it. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:10 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft: I hope there is an easy solution to this problem. i have thought about doing the VM fusion option, but prism i'd have to put jaws or some such thing on the windows bit, and i'm not keen on doing that just for 1 program. my embosser is old, but works! its got one of those serial to USB adapters. its all installed i just have no software to translate or emboss with. any ideas? tried lewy and iBraille. do duxbury do anything for mac? many thanks. Philippa On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Does your printer have any USB connection? I hear that the serial adapters doesn't work well. Otherwise I don't know how to connect the device to your Mac. If it does have any usb connection, I might have a solution for you which works in Windows. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website:http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 13/02/2012 kl. 12.59 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Søren. I have a 4*4 pro from indexbraille. I will recommend the new braillebox, if you are going to get a braille printer. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:16 AM skrev Søren Jensen: Hi Anni. What Braille printer do you have? Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Philippa. I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they told me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I have a lot of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I have tried with vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille solution to work that way too. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft: hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know of a good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried Lewy and tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and lewy won't work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering if you have any reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. Philippa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?
Have you tried using the generic text only printer driver? That should work under your virtual windows. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac? Hi. I have tried for half a year to get that to work, even with a USB printer it is not possible to solve that problem, I have also tried in VMWare, with the same result. It seems as if the printer needs a driver. If any of you have a solution, so that the brailleprinter will work in windows in VMWare, I would love to hear about it. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:10 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft: I hope there is an easy solution to this problem. i have thought about doing the VM fusion option, but prism i'd have to put jaws or some such thing on the windows bit, and i'm not keen on doing that just for 1 program. my embosser is old, but works! its got one of those serial to USB adapters. its all installed i just have no software to translate or emboss with. any ideas? tried lewy and iBraille. do duxbury do anything for mac? many thanks. Philippa On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Does your printer have any USB connection? I hear that the serial adapters doesn't work well. Otherwise I don't know how to connect the device to your Mac. If it does have any usb connection, I might have a solution for you which works in Windows. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website:http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 13/02/2012 kl. 12.59 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Søren. I have a 4*4 pro from indexbraille. I will recommend the new braillebox, if you are going to get a braille printer. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:16 AM skrev Søren Jensen: Hi Anni. What Braille printer do you have? Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Philippa. I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they told me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I have a lot of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I have tried with vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille solution to work that way too. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft: hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know of a good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried Lewy and tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and lewy won't work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering if you have any reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. Philippa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
May i suggest a funny game? Bop it, from electronic arts or zany touch they are funny coordination games to play them, it is needed to turn voiceover off. Bopit has an interactive demo tuttorial inside it, that helps you to learn gestures and movement -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Hi Elena, I hadn't heard about these games for the Mac. But they're fun, I've played Zaney Touch on my iphone. thanks for the suggestion. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:10 AM, elena brescacin wrote: May i suggest a funny game? Bop it, from electronic arts or zany touch they are funny coordination games to play them, it is needed to turn voiceover off. Bopit has an interactive demo tuttorial inside it, that helps you to learn gestures and movement -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about a monitor on my mac mini
I had it connected before I turned it on. Matthew On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Best thing is to have the monitor connected before the Mac is powered on since the detect process seems to happen at bootup. I think it might be a cold boot thing so you might need to fully shut down, not just do a reboot. CB On 2/17/12 3:21 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi all, I just connected a monitor to my mac mini and while my mac sees it there is nothing showing on the screen. I know it works as it was tested. Is there something I need to change in display settings? Thanks. Just wondering. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
When I try to use the arrows with VO to navigate the preference pains and then click on other it doesn't click on the correct thing even though I interact with it. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong. I checked out universal access and that didn't seem to get me what I needed either. Should I uninstall Growl at this point? If so, how do I reinstall it since it is an app? I'm really confused as to why it won't let me get into its own preferences. I just says it's funning in the background and won't let me get to its preferences at all no matter which methods I use. Thanks for your help again. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Jennifer! Well hope this is useful! Open the main menu with either vo+m or control+f2 then when sitting on the Apple menu scroll down to system pref's and vo+space or return! In the next window you will have to just arrow once to the preference pain and interact with it! And in there is lots of selections for you to go into if needed! I.E. keyboard, accounts, Bluetooth and others! usually the last one is universal access but Growl should be after this under the heading of [others] and it should say growl button! vo+space on that and you should get into growl to see what you can do! If you have not had much use of system pref's there is things you might want to look at in there! And do not forget the only dumb question is one that is not asked! :] People will try to help if they can! Colin On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:31, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Universal access, I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what that is? Could you explain what that is and how to get to it please. All I know is that when I am sitting on growl and I use command , it goes straight to the OS 10 preferences and if I use the VO m command for the apple menu to go to preferences it jumps to another apple menu entirely. thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Can you get to the growl in system pref's! And see if there is anything you need to do in there! It should be after universal access [well it is in mine] hth Colin On 18 Feb 2012, at 18:19, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thanks, OK, when I am on Growl and I use my VO m key, it reverts back to whatever I was using before growl like, for instance, mail. Oh Lord this is confusing. I must've really screwed the setup of that things up. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Hi there. I'm on my way out, but try this: When you open Growl and it says it's running in the background, go to the menu bar with VO M, then over to the Growl menu, then arrow down and see if you can open preferences from there. That might work better, or it might not... Hope this helps. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Hi Christer. Yes they work, I have not thought that the problem could be in the accapella voices. I will try to figure out why. My problem with the voices from nuance is that they are going up and down in pitch all the time, therefore I continued to use Mette and Heather. That was a mistake i have done. I think we will need to change the subject lines, if we are continuing this. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
sorry for the misunderstanding these games are for iDevices I do not know any game for macbook, I am looking for them either -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new version of motion gps drive
It's much easier to enter addresses on the motion app, just type it, no need to use 2 or 3 different screens to do this, also I think motion is a bit faster. On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Hi, My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although it's a bit annoying at times, i can live with it, however i want to know, out of curiosity, do your nuance danish voice have trouble pronouncing certain letter as you type them? My Swedish voices have problems pronouncing some letters such as G and N and the letter V isn't pronounced at all. This happens if i type the letters or if i go over them with arrow keys, but in some cirkumstances the letters are pronounced as they should. I wrote to Apple about this, but have yet to hear anything from them or have a fix for it. I wonder where the problem lies if it's in Lion or the nuance voices themselves. /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 16:17 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Yes they work, I have not thought that the problem could be in the accapella voices. I will try to figure out why. My problem with the voices from nuance is that they are going up and down in pitch all the time, therefore I continued to use Mette and Heather. That was a mistake i have done. I think we will need to change the subject lines, if we are continuing this. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Thanks, Elena. I wondered how the gestures would have been implemented on the Mac. :) Best, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:31 AM, elena brescacin wrote: sorry for the misunderstanding these games are for iDevices I do not know any game for macbook, I am looking for them either -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VLC 2.0 is out. Some small accessibility issues
Hi all. Just updated to the new version of VLC Media Player. First of all, it's got a new rather iTunes like interface with a table of sources on the left, and a bunch of unlabelled buttons on the right. The buttons can be dealt with if you label them you're self. They've all got help tags and it only took me less than a minute to label them all. Haven't actually played any media in it yet but I don't see that there will be any issues. Just thought I'd bring this to you'r attention. Have a good Sunday, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
It would be cool if you could use the trackpad on the Macbooks to play one of these games. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Thanks, Elena. I wondered how the gestures would have been implemented on the Mac. :) Best, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:31 AM, elena brescacin wrote: sorry for the misunderstanding these games are for iDevices I do not know any game for macbook, I am looking for them either -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
I assumed that's what they did when I thought she was talking about the Mac. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: It would be cool if you could use the trackpad on the Macbooks to play one of these games. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Thanks, Elena. I wondered how the gestures would have been implemented on the Mac. :) Best, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:31 AM, elena brescacin wrote: sorry for the misunderstanding these games are for iDevices I do not know any game for macbook, I am looking for them either -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
transfering n.l.s. books to the mac:
hi everyone, i wanted to reply to the individuals for who wanted to transfer n.l.s. books from their s.d. cards onto their mac's. could you just go to the app store and download i-book application onto your mac and then just get your books from there or even use blio! as a back up. would that be easier for you to use. or is it just that you enjoy using the n.l.s. format?. as for me! i just use the i-book application on my i-phone 4.s. or blio to read my books. it takes not as much time to download then to transfer the book from you s.d. card onto the mac. That's just for me! and what i prefer. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Hi. I have also problems with some danish letters the 3 last æ ø and å. I have also reported these bugs to apple, but they have not solved the problems yet. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 5:18 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: Hi, My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although it's a bit annoying at times, i can live with it, however i want to know, out of curiosity, do your nuance danish voice have trouble pronouncing certain letter as you type them? My Swedish voices have problems pronouncing some letters such as G and N and the letter V isn't pronounced at all. This happens if i type the letters or if i go over them with arrow keys, but in some cirkumstances the letters are pronounced as they should. I wrote to Apple about this, but have yet to hear anything from them or have a fix for it. I wonder where the problem lies if it's in Lion or the nuance voices themselves. /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 16:17 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Yes they work, I have not thought that the problem could be in the accapella voices. I will try to figure out why. My problem with the voices from nuance is that they are going up and down in pitch all the time, therefore I continued to use Mette and Heather. That was a mistake i have done. I think we will need to change the subject lines, if we are continuing this. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Changing Sounds in Apple Mail
Hello folks, I am curious if anyone has been successful at changing other sounds in apple mail? I have changed the default new mail notification, but I want to change the swoosh sent mail sound to something else. I have the .aiff file, but not sure how to go about replacing the original sent mail sound. Any help would be greatly appreciated - thanks. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
re: what keyboard or i-phone case do you use?
hi everyone, i have used for the past 2 and a half years an apple wireless keyboard with my i[phone 3.g.s. and my new i-phone 4.s. which i truly do love at the moment etc. i also have a case with it and it is a hard cover case. i also have a wallet size case that has a clip on it so i can clip it onto my my pants if i want to etc... you just place it into the case and close the like like a wallet and that's it!. i used it for my 3.g.s. so i then continued to use it for my 4.s. as well saying that i paid about 32 dollars for it at the time that i purchased my 3.g.s. over three years ago. i enjoy my wireless keyboard a great deal i just place it into my over size purse and go. i can take it out and use it along with my i-phone 4.s. and i do not have to bring my mb pro with me. because everything is there inside of my i-phone 4.s. it takes up less space and it is incredably lighter to carry around so that is why i like it. i cannot wait to get me an i-pad when the new i-pad 3 comes out later this year. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
can you use a romeo imbosser on the mac?
hi everyone, i wanted to know if you could use a romeo embosser on the mac with duxbury? thansk a log for your help. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can you use a romeo imbosser on the mac?
Well, you can't use it with duxbury, but you should be able to use it with louis as long as it has serial or bluetooth. It's been so long since I've seen a romeo that I don't know whether it still has serial or not. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-02-19, at 11:54 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: hi everyone, i wanted to know if you could use a romeo embosser on the mac with duxbury? thansk a log for your help. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
Hi Scott, I've heard mixed reviews. Obviously, if you don't want to go through the whole nine yards, then that is fine. In a lot of cases, I have heard this has been all right. However, in other cases, I have read and heard about a lot of different issues. Yes, it's often related to third party apps, which is why, if you are going to just upgrade and not do the clean install, you should take the time to research if your third party apps are compatible with Lion or if there are new versions that are needed to be downloaded. If you are going to simply upgrade from Snow Leopard, be sure to run software update first and check the firmware versions of your system to be sure there have been no updates you have missed (You can see this info in About This Macfrom the Apple menu and VO spacing on the More Info, button). There is info on Apple's support pages about current firmware for all Mac models, and do not under estimate the importance of this factor when updating from SL to Lion or Leopard to Lion. Also, of course, still backup your data with Time Machine or via a disk cloning avenue, such as Super Duper or CCC. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bluetooth keyboard recomendations regarding the IPhone.
True, I never actually thought of that. - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; The Accessible Phones Discussion List Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recomendations regarding the IPhone. I use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone and I love it. I've tried a couple of the mini bluetooth keyboards and I just don't like typing on those. I like being able to put my hands on the home row and you definitely can't do that with the mini bluetooth keyboards. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 18, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Jessica stevies...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at getting the IPhone within the next month or so, and have been debating over the otterbox defender case, or the keyboard buddy, which I'm a little hesitant about, seeing as how I'm not sure how much protection it offers as opposed to the otterbox cases. So with that being the case, what do you all use as far as keyboards/cases are concerned, and how are they performance-wise? Are you looking for a free home based business that will also pay you a good income? Most likely, the answer is yes, so if that is the case then come check out Tmi wireless! We're an internet sales and marketing company that sells a variety of items including cel phones and plans with carriers you already know, and you're payed a comission from every sale you make! Check out http://www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/164753 and learn how to make money doing something you already do daily! to learn more, visit: http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=43270 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
John, I could not agree more. It is absolutely critical to backup and run updates on all of your software before upgrading. Failing to do so may result in all sorts of problems. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:06 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Scott, I've heard mixed reviews. Obviously, if you don't want to go through the whole nine yards, then that is fine. In a lot of cases, I have heard this has been all right. However, in other cases, I have read and heard about a lot of different issues. Yes, it's often related to third party apps, which is why, if you are going to just upgrade and not do the clean install, you should take the time to research if your third party apps are compatible with Lion or if there are new versions that are needed to be downloaded. If you are going to simply upgrade from Snow Leopard, be sure to run software update first and check the firmware versions of your system to be sure there have been no updates you have missed (You can see this info in About This Macfrom the Apple menu and VO spacing on the More Info, button). There is info on Apple's support pages about current firmware for all Mac models, and do not under estimate the importance of this factor when updating from SL to Lion or Leopard to Lion. Also, of course, still backup your data with Time Machine or via a disk cloning avenue, such as Super Duper or CCC. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new version of motion gps drive
Thanks for the information. It's proper total is motion GPS correct? Does it have the capability of telling you where you are or is it just something you can just type in an address and have it give you turn by turn directions only? I'm moving to a new neighborhood and would like to be able to know what streets I'm crossing and stuff. thanks, Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It's much easier to enter addresses on the motion app, just type it, no need to use 2 or 3 different screens to do this, also I think motion is a bit faster. On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Re: VLC 2.0 is out. Some small accessibility issues
Hi. I've looked briefly on VLC 2.0 and it seems really awesome. I wander if text tv is accessible through the program? I just saw that option briefly in the menubar. There seems to be a lot of things to explore. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 19/02/2012 kl. 17.32 skrev Matthew Campbell: Hi all. Just updated to the new version of VLC Media Player. First of all, it's got a new rather iTunes like interface with a table of sources on the left, and a bunch of unlabelled buttons on the right. The buttons can be dealt with if you label them you're self. They've all got help tags and it only took me less than a minute to label them all. Haven't actually played any media in it yet but I don't see that there will be any issues. Just thought I'd bring this to you'r attention. Have a good Sunday, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
New Tech Doctor Podcast
Hi All, In the just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert Carter and Allison Mervis discuss mainstream versus specialized technology, Allison's experience with an Android tablet and jail breaking iOS devices. As always, the podcast is available at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Il giorno 19/feb/2012, alle ore 17:35, Ricardo Walker ha scritto: It would be cool if you could use the trackpad on the Macbooks to play one of these games. Right! audio-games based on trackpad, on multi touch it would be awesome! But I suppose there are not many developers interested! I find iDevices more comfortable to developers thinking about the design for all, there are more input/output possibilities: accelerometer, microphone, movement, vibration, tilting, blowing on the mic, touch, double-touch, multi-touch and so on -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
Ok, I have done the upgrade and everything seems to be working as it's suppose to. I do have a question though. Is there a way to get mail set back up so that it only lets me look at the subject lines? On 2012-02-19, at 12:06 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Scott, I've heard mixed reviews. Obviously, if you don't want to go through the whole nine yards, then that is fine. In a lot of cases, I have heard this has been all right. However, in other cases, I have read and heard about a lot of different issues. Yes, it's often related to third party apps, which is why, if you are going to just upgrade and not do the clean install, you should take the time to research if your third party apps are compatible with Lion or if there are new versions that are needed to be downloaded. If you are going to simply upgrade from Snow Leopard, be sure to run software update first and check the firmware versions of your system to be sure there have been no updates you have missed (You can see this info in About This Macfrom the Apple menu and VO spacing on the More Info, button). There is info on Apple's support pages about current firmware for all Mac models, and do not under estimate the importance of this factor when updating from SL to Lion or Leopard to Lion. Also, of course, still backup your data with Time Machine or via a disk cloning avenue, such as Super Duper or CCC. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
Just switch to Classic View in Mail preferences from the View pane. That will get Mail to act like it did in Snow Leopard. However, I would recommend trying the new view and working with it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:48 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, I have done the upgrade and everything seems to be working as it's suppose to. I do have a question though. Is there a way to get mail set back up so that it only lets me look at the subject lines? On 2012-02-19, at 12:06 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Scott, I've heard mixed reviews. Obviously, if you don't want to go through the whole nine yards, then that is fine. In a lot of cases, I have heard this has been all right. However, in other cases, I have read and heard about a lot of different issues. Yes, it's often related to third party apps, which is why, if you are going to just upgrade and not do the clean install, you should take the time to research if your third party apps are compatible with Lion or if there are new versions that are needed to be downloaded. If you are going to simply upgrade from Snow Leopard, be sure to run software update first and check the firmware versions of your system to be sure there have been no updates you have missed (You can see this info in About This Macfrom the Apple menu and VO spacing on the More Info, button). There is info on Apple's support pages about current firmware for all Mac models, and do not under estimate the importance of this factor when updating from SL to Lion or Leopard to Lion. Also, of course, still backup your data with Time Machine or via a disk cloning avenue, such as Super Duper or CCC. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
I'm sure you know about chess on your Mac. If not, you can find it in the programs folder. All the best Jürgen Am 19.02.2012 um 13:28 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hi Jurgen, Thanks. I have lots of games on my iPhone, and yes, Papa Sangre was a great one. I was just on my Mac at the moment, and it occurred to me that it would be nice to have a game to play. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Donna, an interesting question. I don't know an answer but I'm also interested in accessible games. Just to mentioned it: On the iPhone is Papa Sangre highly interesting and nicely produced. All the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 23:48 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hey all, I pulled a muscle in my back so am spending the weekend convalescing. Anyone know of any games in the app store that are accessible on the Mac? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: suggestions for updating to lion
Thanks. Guess I overlooked it when I was going through what things looked like now. Will take some getting use to. On 2012-02-19, at 2:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: Just switch to Classic View in Mail preferences from the View pane. That will get Mail to act like it did in Snow Leopard. However, I would recommend trying the new view and working with it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:48 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, I have done the upgrade and everything seems to be working as it's suppose to. I do have a question though. Is there a way to get mail set back up so that it only lets me look at the subject lines? On 2012-02-19, at 12:06 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Scott, I've heard mixed reviews. Obviously, if you don't want to go through the whole nine yards, then that is fine. In a lot of cases, I have heard this has been all right. However, in other cases, I have read and heard about a lot of different issues. Yes, it's often related to third party apps, which is why, if you are going to just upgrade and not do the clean install, you should take the time to research if your third party apps are compatible with Lion or if there are new versions that are needed to be downloaded. If you are going to simply upgrade from Snow Leopard, be sure to run software update first and check the firmware versions of your system to be sure there have been no updates you have missed (You can see this info in About This Macfrom the Apple menu and VO spacing on the More Info, button). There is info on Apple's support pages about current firmware for all Mac models, and do not under estimate the importance of this factor when updating from SL to Lion or Leopard to Lion. Also, of course, still backup your data with Time Machine or via a disk cloning avenue, such as Super Duper or CCC. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: John, ALthough a fresh install has its advantages, I have found very few problems upgrading. Most problems upgrading have been the result of an application. Not everyone wants to go through the nuke and pave option. An upgrade is more likely to be successful when your system is already in a stable state. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:30 AM, John Panarese wrote: I would do a clean install, first of all. This is better than an upgrade. Make sure your system has the latest firmware updates prior to doing the clean install, back up your current system with Time Machine or something like, Super Duper, on an external drive, and after you install Lion for the first time, get the combo updater from the Apple Support page to go to 10.7.3. I restored all my settings and material manual step by step. However, you can always migrate from the backup you make. This is entirely up to you. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, May McDonald wrote: Ok, now that I have a short break from school I think it's time to play with Lion. Any tips and tricks that I should know or do before I upgrade? All help would be appreciated. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. May and Prince Noah cell: 613-863-5845 or 1-888-778-2544 email: mcdonald@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
Hi there, I know this sounds dumb, but honestly, I completely forgot about chess. lol Thanks for the reminder. Best, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: I'm sure you know about chess on your Mac. If not, you can find it in the programs folder. All the best Jürgen Am 19.02.2012 um 13:28 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hi Jurgen, Thanks. I have lots of games on my iPhone, and yes, Papa Sangre was a great one. I was just on my Mac at the moment, and it occurred to me that it would be nice to have a game to play. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Donna, an interesting question. I don't know an answer but I'm also interested in accessible games. Just to mentioned it: On the iPhone is Papa Sangre highly interesting and nicely produced. All the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 23:48 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hey all, I pulled a muscle in my back so am spending the weekend convalescing. Anyone know of any games in the app store that are accessible on the Mac? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Well, believe it or not I have seen people tell a company that their suggested solution for solving an accessibility problem with their software really wasn't necessary because people could get along without any changes. This gets done because the individual saying that usually doesn't have to use the part of the software that is causing the problem, so they don't really think it is that big of a deal even though it may mean that another person really couldn't use the software effectively for what they needed to do with that software. This kind of thing happens a lot more often than you would want to believe that it does, and usually has to do with the individual really not knowing the software as well as they should. I know betatesters for certain companies who make assistive technology software who report that they see no problems with a particular beta when there are other betatesters finding a lot of problems. This again happens because some betatesters don't take their job seriously enough. David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:58 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. lol, Who writes or, calls a company telling them they do not have to fix a problem. That would be a bit, well, over the top, no? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:04 PM, David Tanner wrote: That is not acceptable. Converting to text files may destroy the formating and make getting the correct information from a table difficult or impossible. This is a serious problem, and has been a known problem often and repeatedly reported to Apple. I sincerely hope you are not someone telling Apple that they don't need to fix the problem. If so, please let them know that it needs fixing if Apple is to be seriously considered by folks it is absolutely necessary that a person be able to read and edit tables, and do advanced editing or it is not going to work for a lot of people. Simple text editing is not good enough. David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Tables? I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not to recommend mac. I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. Then I have a thing that in my opinion is hanging back. I think you have guessed what it is. Wright it is braille. There are a lot of apples choices i simply do not understand. Why are we not allowed as users to modify apples braille tables, there are really many bugs. I would also like to see a function, so that we can add hotkeys to mac commands not only VOICEOver commands. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion
has anyone used the messages beta, I tried here, but, after composing, can't figure out how to send the message, I know, I am quite ignorant here! On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi folks, Apple has given us a sneak peek at Mountain Lion do out this summer. They have released messages beta. Its basically like iMessage on IOS. M Lion sounds like there going full steam ahead with IOS/Mac osx intergration. Mountain Lion will be adding Messages, Reminders, game center and notifications. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Remoting two Macs
Hi. Ok, so if removing two macs will be a problem, does anyone know if Dropbox became accessible as of yet? The last I heard about that, you needed sighted help to install it onto your Mac. Is that still the case? I'm trying to help her get Skype on her Mac but when she goes to Skype.com and tries to download it, it doesn't show up in her downloads folder. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Bug With Message Beta
Hey guys. I've noticed that in the Messages beta Voiceover doesn't automatically read messages that a person has typed. Has anyone found a work around for this? Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion
To send your message, just press enter. BC On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Dan Roy wrote: has anyone used the messages beta, I tried here, but, after composing, can't figure out how to send the message, I know, I am quite ignorant here! On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi folks, Apple has given us a sneak peek at Mountain Lion do out this summer. They have released messages beta. Its basically like iMessage on IOS. M Lion sounds like there going full steam ahead with IOS/Mac osx intergration. Mountain Lion will be adding Messages, Reminders, game center and notifications. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messages beta question
Ricardo, I always put enter in my messages for blank lines just like an e-mail, but not sure why! Kawal. On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:55 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. But why would anyone want to put a empty line in a text message? That sounds a bit much. If I was sighted, and reading a text on a phone like that, it would definitely make me scratch my head. lol. But to each their own. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bug With Message Beta
It should. It's using the iChat interface. Look in settings under alerts and make sure it is configured to do so. I have had no problems with alerts. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey guys. I've noticed that in the Messages beta Voiceover doesn't automatically read messages that a person has typed. Has anyone found a work around for this? Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
Hey Jennifer and others. I just remembered that someone was having troubles with Growl and that someone said that the preferences for it were in System Preferences. If you have the latest version of growl, the preferences for it are not in system prefs. To access Growl's preferences, go to your apps folder in finder and open Growl as if you were going to launch it. There you will find the preferences. HTH. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
I also reported the nuance pitch issue a while back. Another issue is that when the mouse pointer is in the menus, pressing VO F5 does not report the item under the mouse. On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although it's a bit annoying at times, i can live with it, however i want to know, out of curiosity, do your nuance danish voice have trouble pronouncing certain letter as you type them? My Swedish voices have problems pronouncing some letters such as G and N and the letter V isn't pronounced at all. This happens if i type the letters or if i go over them with arrow keys, but in some cirkumstances the letters are pronounced as they should. I wrote to Apple about this, but have yet to hear anything from them or have a fix for it. I wonder where the problem lies if it's in Lion or the nuance voices themselves. /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 16:17 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Yes they work, I have not thought that the problem could be in the accapella voices. I will try to figure out why. My problem with the voices from nuance is that they are going up and down in pitch all the time, therefore I continued to use Mette and Heather. That was a mistake i have done. I think we will need to change the subject lines, if we are continuing this. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 2:28 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette, and they do not work, but the built in voices work with that function. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 18, 2012 kl. 11:46 AM skrev Krister Ekstrom: 17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. This function is already here. In Lion, under the voiceover utility in the speech settings tab there's a popup menu where you can choose what sound card you want Voiceover to go through. Also the function with adding shortcut keys has been present since at least Leopard. It's in system preferences/keyboard i think. And now, something for the rest of the list. I don't know about you, but i personally hate it when people especially when it comes to things they want to see or have changed, speak for all the blind. Subjects like we want these or those features are in my not so humble opinion not so good. What if i totally disagree with suggestions that someone claims the blind community wants? A more appropriate subject in my opinion would be something like what features *I* would... etc. This reflects more what you and possibly your friends want and people can agree or disagree how they want. I am no moderator however, and i'm sorry if i sound like some kind of cop here, so i can't and won't force a change of subject. I'm merely expressing an opinion that happens to be mine. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: new version of motion gps drive
There is a screen that will tell you the address you are closest to, but it will not announce up coming streets or places you pass, for that, the best app is sendero look around I think. Motion will give you driving or walking instructions very similar to what navigon offers, I think motion's interface is a bit easier to use, especially now that everything is well labeled. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thanks for the information. It's proper total is motion GPS correct? Does it have the capability of telling you where you are or is it just something you can just type in an address and have it give you turn by turn directions only? I'm moving to a new neighborhood and would like to be able to know what streets I'm crossing and stuff. thanks, Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It's much easier to enter addresses on the motion app, just type it, no need to use 2 or 3 different screens to do this, also I think motion is a bit faster. On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: 1password usage tips please
Not sure if you had a better response yet, but try this go to the login area of the 1password application, and place the cursor on the login you want to open, and press option + command + Enter. This will open the sign in link and fill in your information, on safari. It will not log you in, but all you need to do is click on the login button. Hope this helps. Gary On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi, I have had 1password for a time. It learns my logins but I cannot find a way to have it fill out info on pages. I press command \ and get a popover but this is as far as I get. Thanks, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new version of motion gps drive
Hello: Does Motion GPS have maps for Europe available? Spain to be exact? Thanks so much! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 19/02/2012, a las 19:27, Mike Arrigo escribió: There is a screen that will tell you the address you are closest to, but it will not announce up coming streets or places you pass, for that, the best app is sendero look around I think. Motion will give you driving or walking instructions very similar to what navigon offers, I think motion's interface is a bit easier to use, especially now that everything is well labeled. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thanks for the information. It's proper total is motion GPS correct? Does it have the capability of telling you where you are or is it just something you can just type in an address and have it give you turn by turn directions only? I'm moving to a new neighborhood and would like to be able to know what streets I'm crossing and stuff. thanks, Jenny and my goofy guideBrooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It's much easier to enter addresses on the motion app, just type it, no need to use 2 or 3 different screens to do this, also I think motion is a bit faster. On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion
can anyone send me the direct link to download message bata please? best On 19 Feb 2012, at 23:20, Brett C. wrote: To send your message, just press enter. BC On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Dan Roy wrote: has anyone used the messages beta, I tried here, but, after composing, can't figure out how to send the message, I know, I am quite ignorant here! On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi folks, Apple has given us a sneak peek at Mountain Lion do out this summer. They have released messages beta. Its basically like iMessage on IOS. M Lion sounds like there going full steam ahead with IOS/Mac osx intergration. Mountain Lion will be adding Messages, Reminders, game center and notifications. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Any issues with MenuTab?
Hi all, I updated MenuTab yesterday, and it seems to be acting oddly now. I'm having a hard time interacting with it via VO. First, I had to take it out of the auto start in login, because that wasn't working for me. If you navigate away from the app, I can't figure out how to get back over to it. Any ideas here? I use to be able to start the app up, and vo would automatically begin reading the first button in the MenuTab app. Thanks, Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
chrome vox
change and if so can some body please tell me the new controls thanks in advance waynehello list has anybody had the latest update for chrome box and did there controls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: transfering n.l.s. books to the mac:
Hello Well, I guess I do it all. I do so my books, but I do read a lot of NLS books. I always have. I guess us old folks just have a problem making changes sometimes. I've been doing it since 1962, so who knows if I can make the change completely. I also like Whimbreel, although I haven't used it lately. I do too much braille reading all my job, so I want to relax with my books. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone, i wanted to reply to the individuals for who wanted to transfer n.l.s. books from their s.d. cards onto their mac's. could you just go to the app store and download i-book application onto your mac and then just get your books from there or even use blio! as a back up. would that be easier for you to use. or is it just that you enjoy using the n.l.s. format?. as for me! i just use the i-book application on my i-phone 4.s. or blio to read my books. it takes not as much time to download then to transfer the book from you s.d. card onto the mac. That's just for me! and what i prefer. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: any games in the app store that are accessible?
I wish there were a Spider Solitare game available, unless someone knows something I don't yet. I love playing that on my windows machine, and am pretty much adicted to it, and would miss it when I have to part with it, but I'm not wanting to put Windows on my macbook pro just to play Spider Solitare lol. - Original Message - From: Goodin, Donna dgoo...@umich.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: Re: any games in the app store that are accessible? Hi there, I know this sounds dumb, but honestly, I completely forgot about chess. lol Thanks for the reminder. Best, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: I'm sure you know about chess on your Mac. If not, you can find it in the programs folder. All the best Jürgen Am 19.02.2012 um 13:28 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hi Jurgen, Thanks. I have lots of games on my iPhone, and yes, Papa Sangre was a great one. I was just on my Mac at the moment, and it occurred to me that it would be nice to have a game to play. Cheers, Donna On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Donna, an interesting question. I don't know an answer but I'm also interested in accessible games. Just to mentioned it: On the iPhone is Papa Sangre highly interesting and nicely produced. All the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 23:48 schrieb Goodin, Donna: Hey all, I pulled a muscle in my back so am spending the weekend convalescing. Anyone know of any games in the app store that are accessible on the Mac? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with Growl
R hi Jennifer I ended up having to restart my computer. I guess I really should say that I shut it down taking out all the windows. When I started my computer back up, growl brought up the preferences when I call up the program. You might try that and see if that helps. It did help mine. I still haven't completely got growled away I want it, but it's better than it was. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to use the arrows with VO to navigate the preference pains and then click on other it doesn't click on the correct thing even though I interact with it. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong. I checked out universal access and that didn't seem to get me what I needed either. Should I uninstall Growl at this point? If so, how do I reinstall it since it is an app? I'm really confused as to why it won't let me get into its own preferences. I just says it's funning in the background and won't let me get to its preferences at all no matter which methods I use. Thanks for your help again. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Jennifer! Well hope this is useful! Open the main menu with either vo+m or control+f2 then when sitting on the Apple menu scroll down to system pref's and vo+space or return! In the next window you will have to just arrow once to the preference pain and interact with it! And in there is lots of selections for you to go into if needed! I.E. keyboard, accounts, Bluetooth and others! usually the last one is universal access but Growl should be after this under the heading of [others] and it should say growl button! vo+space on that and you should get into growl to see what you can do! If you have not had much use of system pref's there is things you might want to look at in there! And do not forget the only dumb question is one that is not asked! :] People will try to help if they can! Colin On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:31, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Universal access, I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what that is? Could you explain what that is and how to get to it please. All I know is that when I am sitting on growl and I use command , it goes straight to the OS 10 preferences and if I use the VO m command for the apple menu to go to preferences it jumps to another apple menu entirely. thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
True. But there is no solution at this point. lol. So in essence, the person would be calling and saying, you don't need to bother with something that doesn't even exist. That would take incredible forethought IMO. But, I guess their can be such a creature among us. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: Well, believe it or not I have seen people tell a company that their suggested solution for solving an accessibility problem with their software really wasn't necessary because people could get along without any changes. This gets done because the individual saying that usually doesn't have to use the part of the software that is causing the problem, so they don't really think it is that big of a deal even though it may mean that another person really couldn't use the software effectively for what they needed to do with that software. This kind of thing happens a lot more often than you would want to believe that it does, and usually has to do with the individual really not knowing the software as well as they should. I know betatesters for certain companies who make assistive technology software who report that they see no problems with a particular beta when there are other betatesters finding a lot of problems. This again happens because some betatesters don't take their job seriously enough. David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:58 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. lol, Who writes or, calls a company telling them they do not have to fix a problem. That would be a bit, well, over the top, no? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:04 PM, David Tanner wrote: That is not acceptable. Converting to text files may destroy the formating and make getting the correct information from a table difficult or impossible. This is a serious problem, and has been a known problem often and repeatedly reported to Apple. I sincerely hope you are not someone telling Apple that they don't need to fix the problem. If so, please let them know that it needs fixing if Apple is to be seriously considered by folks it is absolutely necessary that a person be able to read and edit tables, and do advanced editing or it is not going to work for a lot of people. Simple text editing is not good enough. David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Tables? I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not to recommend mac. I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external speakers. Then I have a thing that in my opinion is hanging back. I think you have guessed what it is. Wright it is braille. There are a lot of apples choices i simply do not understand. Why are we not allowed as users to modify apples braille tables, there are really many bugs. I would also like to see a function, so that we can add hotkeys to mac commands not only VOICEOver commands. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: Messages beta question
Oh, this is generally not done being there is a character limit with text messages. Why waste a character on a blank line? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Ricardo, I always put enter in my messages for blank lines just like an e-mail, but not sure why! Kawal. On 19 Feb 2012, at 12:55 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. But why would anyone want to put a empty line in a text message? That sounds a bit much. If I was sighted, and reading a text on a phone like that, it would definitely make me scratch my head. lol. But to each their own. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bug With Message Beta
Hi, in messages/preferences, go to alerts. Choose received messages from the pop up and check speak an announcement. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey guys. I've noticed that in the Messages beta Voiceover doesn't automatically read messages that a person has typed. Has anyone found a work around for this? Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Remoting two Macs
Hi, If you already have dropbox on your machine, you can just drop skype in your public folder and e-mail her the link. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hi. Ok, so if removing two macs will be a problem, does anyone know if Dropbox became accessible as of yet? The last I heard about that, you needed sighted help to install it onto your Mac. Is that still the case? I'm trying to help her get Skype on her Mac but when she goes to Skype.com and tries to download it, it doesn't show up in her downloads folder. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
From The Keyboard On iOS Devices.
Hi! How do I select text to be deleted or copied and pasted somewhere else on the iphone or the ipad when using a apple bluetooth keyboard? Also, how to switch keyboard layout, say I have English, Swedish and Arabic, how to select the one I want to input with? Thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: From The Keyboard On iOS Devices.
Hi, the text edit commands are the same as on the Mac. For example, command A to select all, command C to copy, Command V to paste, etc. To select different keyboard layouts, go to settings/general/keyboard/international keyboards/add new keyboard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi! How do I select text to be deleted or copied and pasted somewhere else on the iphone or the ipad when using a apple bluetooth keyboard? Also, how to switch keyboard layout, say I have English, Swedish and Arabic, how to select the one I want to input with? Thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Bluetooth on MBP caused voiceover to stop speaking need help: was: Re: blue tooth and hims onhand
Sorry I can't help you with your problem but I need help urgently with voiceover stopping speaking. I tried to pair a Motorola S305 with my MacBook Pro and I turned the hardware Bluetooth on and now voiceover does not speak. I need someone to tell me step by step on how to turn Bluetooth hardware off on my MacBook Pro so I can get voiceover turned on again I need help thank you, Johnny Cakes On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:59 PM, nstevens singingskie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm so close to pairing the on hand with my Mac book pro. Would someone be able to send details on how to pair the two devices. I can find the on hand and it seems to recognize it but then when I try to type in a password I'm not sure what the final step is. Thanks for any help. Nancy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about a monitor on my mac mini
Hmmm. In System Preferences Displays at the very end of the dialog is a button called Detect Displays. Try hitting that and maybe it will notice your screen correctly. CB On 2/19/12 9:49 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: I had it connected before I turned it on. Matthew On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Best thing is to have the monitor connected before the Mac is powered on since the detect process seems to happen at bootup. I think it might be a cold boot thing so you might need to fully shut down, not just do a reboot. CB On 2/17/12 3:21 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi all, I just connected a monitor to my mac mini and while my mac sees it there is nothing showing on the screen. I know it works as it was tested. Is there something I need to change in display settings? Thanks. Just wondering. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messages beta question
Sometimes its easier for stuff somebody might want to copy/paste to put it on a line by itself, such as a link. That way I can just go to the beginning of the link and then shift-down arrow to select everything to the end of the line. Otherwise I have to pick out the stuff in the middle of a string of text. Also nice for log type entries where each line might be a new topic or dated entry. CB On 2/19/12 7:55 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Cool. But why would anyone want to put a empty line in a text message? That sounds a bit much. If I was sighted, and reading a text on a phone like that, it would definitely make me scratch my head. lol. But to each their own. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone
This sounds very useful, but I have been unsuccessful getting it to work. I want to get a caps-lock effect so I can tap multiple capital letters in a row. When I am in touch typing mode, I touch the Shift key with one finger, keep my finger in place, and then use another finger to tap twice. My taps only toggle the shift on/off and does not cause a caps-lock result. I tried various speeds for the double tap with the second finger, with no change in results. I did the same in standard typing mode, and got the same result. I also tried double-tap hold on the shift, and then tapping with a second finger. No good. What am I missing? Much thanks and regards, Jeff On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: Hi Ann ( y'all), Yeh thanks, it finally worked. I tried triple-tapping quad-tapping:-) to no avail. The split-tapping was indeed the ticket… Thanks for the info… On the subject of IPhone-related questions appearing on this list, maybe it's a trend that will continue, given the foreseen symbiosis between Mountain Lion IOS. Thanks again for extricating me from my ignorance . Cheers, Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com On 2012-02-15, at 10:23 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Jean-Claude, To put the shift lock on, place one finger on Shift and tap twice with another finger. To take the shift lock off again, place one finger on Shift and tap once with another finger. I'm in touchtyping mode. A un de ces quatre, Anne On 15 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: Hi all, I hope the moderators will forgive my slightly off-topic question on this list… In my defence, I don't do this often:-) How does one toggle the caps-lock function. The user guide says to tap shift twice but, obviously, this can't work when using VoiceOver. Thanks in advance for your answer… Cheers to y'all! JC Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mail verbosity
Hi. I have found the setting in verbosity to turn off VO saying disclosure triangle before each group of messages. But is there also a setting that will turn off or shorten the three message conversation, two message conversation, etc.? Thanks. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail verbosity
Boy, I'd love to know this as well. I don't feel like I can zip through my mail on the Mac. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Hi. I have found the setting in verbosity to turn off VO saying disclosure triangle before each group of messages. But is there also a setting that will turn off or shorten the three message conversation, two message conversation, etc.? Thanks. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail verbosity
Hi Bill, I'm only recently upgraded to Lion, so it's possible that I don't know what you're talking about when you speak of the three-message conversation and the two-message conversation. But if you are using Mail in Lion and not in the Classic view, then there are check boxes in the Mail Preferences pane that let you change the number of lines that are displayed. Use Command-comma to bring up Preferences, then Control-F5 to move to the title bar. Navigate to the Viewing button and press to select. I do this by tabbing and then VO-Space on Viewing, so I can continue to tab into the selected pane without having to stop interacting. Navigate past the unchecked box for Use classic layout. After List Preview: there is a pop up menu button that you can change from the default value of 2 lines to None. Close the window with Command-W when you're done. Is this the setting you're talking about? I'm still mostly using Classic view for mail. Also, are you using Activities to set different verbosity levels for your applications? I haven't experimented with that yet. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Hi. I have found the setting in verbosity to turn off VO saying disclosure triangle before each group of messages. But is there also a setting that will turn off or shorten the three message conversation, two message conversation, etc.? Thanks. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail verbosity
Hello Esther, I believe he means in the new mail view, in the messages table, when a message is a conversation. VO says 3 message conversation, meaning 3 messages inside that thread. I just played around further with my verbosity settings, and changed the speech to low. Unfortunately, this only changed unread button, to unread. Lol, taking the word button off wasn't enough to me. Hopefully, we can figure something out. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Bill, I'm only recently upgraded to Lion, so it's possible that I don't know what you're talking about when you speak of the three-message conversation and the two-message conversation. But if you are using Mail in Lion and not in the Classic view, then there are check boxes in the Mail Preferences pane that let you change the number of lines that are displayed. Use Command-comma to bring up Preferences, then Control-F5 to move to the title bar. Navigate to the Viewing button and press to select. I do this by tabbing and then VO-Space on Viewing, so I can continue to tab into the selected pane without having to stop interacting. Navigate past the unchecked box for Use classic layout. After List Preview: there is a pop up menu button that you can change from the default value of 2 lines to None. Close the window with Command-W when you're done. Is this the setting you're talking about? I'm still mostly using Classic view for mail. Also, are you using Activities to set different verbosity levels for your applications? I haven't experimented with that yet. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Hi. I have found the setting in verbosity to turn off VO saying disclosure triangle before each group of messages. But is there also a setting that will turn off or shorten the three message conversation, two message conversation, etc.? Thanks. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messages beta question
Hi, usually, when someone puts a link in a text, its separated from the rest of the text automatically. At least thats how it is on the iPhone. as far as log type entries, I guess. But I would assume one is more likely to send something like that in an e-mail, not a text message. But like I said, its whatever. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Sometimes its easier for stuff somebody might want to copy/paste to put it on a line by itself, such as a link. That way I can just go to the beginning of the link and then shift-down arrow to select everything to the end of the line. Otherwise I have to pick out the stuff in the middle of a string of text. Also nice for log type entries where each line might be a new topic or dated entry. CB On 2/19/12 7:55 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Cool. But why would anyone want to put a empty line in a text message? That sounds a bit much. If I was sighted, and reading a text on a phone like that, it would definitely make me scratch my head. lol. But to each their own. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Option-enter in fact will insert a return, so there is the solution. :) On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I haven't tried this app but the usual Mac convention is to use option+enter to add a new line instead of doing some action. CB On 2/18/12 7:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Scott and others, I like putting in blank lines in messages but of course when I press enter it sends the message. Is there a way to move down a line when typing a message? Eric Caron On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Just press enter On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Stupid question, but once you’ve written a message in the beta, how do you send it? I have not used iChat, so not familiar with the conventions. Seems like it should be command s for send or shift command D like sending email. Help appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone
Hi, Just triple tap the shift button. It will stay active until you double tap it to turn it off. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Jeffrey Wheatley wrote: This sounds very useful, but I have been unsuccessful getting it to work. I want to get a caps-lock effect so I can tap multiple capital letters in a row. When I am in touch typing mode, I touch the Shift key with one finger, keep my finger in place, and then use another finger to tap twice. My taps only toggle the shift on/off and does not cause a caps-lock result. I tried various speeds for the double tap with the second finger, with no change in results. I did the same in standard typing mode, and got the same result. I also tried double-tap hold on the shift, and then tapping with a second finger. No good. What am I missing? Much thanks and regards, Jeff On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: Hi Ann ( y'all), Yeh thanks, it finally worked. I tried triple-tapping quad-tapping:-) to no avail. The split-tapping was indeed the ticket… Thanks for the info… On the subject of IPhone-related questions appearing on this list, maybe it's a trend that will continue, given the foreseen symbiosis between Mountain Lion IOS. Thanks again for extricating me from my ignorance . Cheers, Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com On 2012-02-15, at 10:23 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Jean-Claude, To put the shift lock on, place one finger on Shift and tap twice with another finger. To take the shift lock off again, place one finger on Shift and tap once with another finger. I'm in touchtyping mode. A un de ces quatre, Anne On 15 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: Hi all, I hope the moderators will forgive my slightly off-topic question on this list… In my defence, I don't do this often:-) How does one toggle the caps-lock function. The user guide says to tap shift twice but, obviously, this can't work when using VoiceOver. Thanks in advance for your answer… Cheers to y'all! JC Jean-Claude Provost jc.prov...@dansmacave.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new version of motion gps drive
When I type in addresses in Navigon, I use Navigon Now which allows for typing in addresses on one line and then launch Navigon from the Now App. Les On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It's much easier to enter addresses on the motion app, just type it, no need to use 2 or 3 different screens to do this, also I think motion is a bit faster. On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, Can you tell me what Motion does that navigon doesn't? I have never used either one but I have Navigon on my phone. What makes Motion worth the upgrade. I'm moving to another neighborhood in a few weeks and I would love to have a GPS app that would prove helpful. Could you give me the play by play lowdown please? Thanks in advance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There is no way to get older versions, the current version of navigon worked fine for me, used it earlier today on a short root, I still like motion gps better because entering addresses is much easier. On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: Hello Anne, Thanks for responding. I downloaded Ariadne this morning, but I have been told that the most recent version of Navigon is no longer accessible. If this is true, do you know if it is possible to download older iterations of a program from the iStore? If ordering older versions works, which version should I grab? Thanks for all the times you have assisted me! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 5:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, This app does not work in Europe. I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. You might also find MyWay Classic useful for marking out routes that are off the beaten track. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:50, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Mike, Do you know if this App works at all in Europe? Since I still am an expatriate American and get to the States occasionally, I'll probably buy it, but knowing that it worked in Europe as well would make it even more interesting. Kindest regards, Mike P.S. Your podcasts on the Mac did much to inspire me to buy my first MacBook, and I don't regret that decision one little bit. Thank you. On 18,Feb,2012, at 4:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hey everyone, motion gps has just released version 13 for the iphone, if you live in the United States or Canada, it's well worth checking out. They have fixed the unlabeled buttons and provided very good accessibility for voiceover users. I think this app is now by far the best one for blind users, navigon was the best choice for a while but I think it has lost the top spot, especially in the newest versions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because
