date:20161007

Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Simon,

I don't.  I think I got it because one of my email accounts is an Exchange 
account.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> It may have been with in the office 2016 installer if you have that on your 
> mac,
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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> Subject: Re: Mailbox question
> 
> And, in typical Microsoft fashion, they will not let you delete it.  I'll 
> post if I find a solution.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> From my Googling, I'd say if you use Outlook, you have it.  I'm going to 
>> delete it, we'll see what happens.  Apparently Yammer is a collaboration 
>> tool that Microsoft is trying to launch.
>> cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> I've never herd of such a mailbox myself and I run El Cap as well. Quites 
>>> trange that showed up in your list, though I doubt that that mailbox is 
>>> system related.
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Re: MenuBar Stats

2016-10-07 Thread Terje Strømberg

Fan and temperature monitoring is working again. After update probably. 
Temperature for cpu core 1. 2. 3 and 4 individually, memory module 1. 2. 3 and 
4 individually, power sypply heatsink, one motherboard pci things. Set up in 
options.

Take care


> 7. okt. 2016 kl. 09.36 skrev Terje Strømberg :
> 
> Tempurature and fan monitoring is not working here at the moment. Temperature 
> is an add on feature (free) you have to download from the website. After 
> backup and updating osx it did not work anymore. Used to be able to fix it 
> with disabling it and disable it again in the add on app after backup. Hope 
> this will be fixed in a update.
> 
> During installation do make a short cut - command key to show the window of 
> menu bar stat or shortly after installation maybe, don’t remember exact. 
> Useful to have it to get in to the parameter window fast. I have ti set to 
> ctr - esc. Then i have ctrl - f15 to open the osx built in activity monitor. 
> There are many more short cut. One that will not work is alert user if cpu 
> usage increase more than 90% because 100% cpu usage in menubar stat app is 
> some times only 20% if all 4 cpu's cores are in use. Menu bar stat monitor 
> only one cpu it looks like.
> 
> Voice over do not speak the menu actually, but you will here the menu bar 
> stat be announced, hit vo-space. Go right to options, down to preferences, 
> hit enter. Make short cuts mentioned above. Important to have the option to 
> get to the menu bar window parameter. In modules list and other lists you 
> have to mark the module after moving  up down. Do not mark automatically.
> 
> Also benith the options, you can open disk utility, terminal etc. Do think it 
> is possiblity to have short cut for allmost everything that have with 
> technical purpose to do in osx own utilitys.
> 
> Take care
> 
> T
> 
>> 6. okt. 2016 kl. 23.41 skrev E.T. :
>> 
>>  Someone had recently mentioned MenuBar Stats. I am curious to know if it 
>> really adds functionality. Its just $5 but I still wish to hear more 
>> feedback. Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: ios clock settings

2016-10-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

Yeah on my iPhone 6s+ it's on the home screan with mail calendar, weather 
photos etc.

 So unless you've moved it should it not be there?

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Subject: ios clock settings

Hello All:

The clock settings used to be in the main settings menu under contact, 
calendars and clock or some such name. Now I can’t find them anywhere. Does 
anyone know where to find them under ios 10?

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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RE: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

Donna,

It may have been with in the office 2016 installer if you have that on your mac,



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Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2016 2:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Mailbox question

And, in typical Microsoft fashion, they will not let you delete it.  I'll post 
if I find a solution.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> From my Googling, I'd say if you use Outlook, you have it.  I'm going to 
> delete it, we'll see what happens.  Apparently Yammer is a collaboration tool 
> that Microsoft is trying to launch.
> cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I've never herd of such a mailbox myself and I run El Cap as well. Quites 
>> trange that showed up in your list, though I doubt that that mailbox is 
>> system related.
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RE: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi,

Yeah Yammer is a Microsoft chat service,

 I guess like messaging on the Mac OS.

 It's available as an app for the IOS platform,
 Web based interface,
Or received as emails which you can reply to as part of a chat 

There is either the free  version or one for enterprise systems in which the 
enterprise admins can setup their own Yammer server if they are really crazy,

  It comes as part of office 365 (2016)  

It's not bad to use, I've used it for work, it's like most chat systems just 
bloody annoying 

HTH


Chers,


Simon F
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2016 2:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mailbox question

OK, so a little bit of googling answered my question, going to post to 
hopefully save some of you the trouble.  apparently it's Microsoft crap.  There 
is some program called Yammer, and Microsoft, in its beneficence, decided we 
should all have this on our computers.  If you have an Outlook account, you 
probably have it too.  working on figuring out how to get rid of it.  God, I 
hate Microsoft!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I was just looking in my mailbox list, and came across a mailbox I've never 
> noticed before.  It is called Yammer Root.  Does anyone else have this on 
> their Mac?  I did not create it, so if it's not system related, I want to 
> delete it.  Still running El Cap, in case that matters.
> TIA,
> Donna
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ios clock settings

2016-10-07 Thread Jean

Hello All:

The clock settings used to be in the main settings menu under contact, 
calendars and clock or some such name. Now I can’t find them anywhere. Does 
anyone know where to find them under ios 10?

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
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Geneva, Switzerland

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navigating mail

2016-10-07 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli


Hello:
When in mail, vo j no longer takes me in to the message. Have to press command 
o. Any ideas?
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Kliphton Miller

Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. I 
can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command O.  
I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work.  What 
am I doing wrong here?
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
> subdirectory of your documents folder.
> 
> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
> 
> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the 
> pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the 
> book I want to open.
> 
> As I said, it’s clunky!
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the 
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>>> wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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icloud and outlook 2016

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix


Hi Everyone,

AFTER having to turn off 2factor verification outlook 2016 does work 
with my gmail. However, I dont get it to work with icloud. I mean 
outlook for windows10 which I am running in bootcamp.


I am wondering if anyone else is having problems with outlook 2016 and 
icloud and if someone has found a way for this to work?


I would love to be able to use my contacts and agenda on windows as well...

Thanks in advance for any information,

Greetings, Anouk,

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problems syncing onedrive from mac to windows

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix


Hi Everyone,

I have 1 tb of onedrive storage and want to move a 70gb zipfile from the 
mac to windows using onedriver. I know onedrive is working because i can 
see my kindlebooks folder on the mac in onedrive while i downloaded them 
using windows.


However if i put the zip within the onedrive folder it will not show up 
under windows.


I do get a message when starting windows that onedrive needs permission 
to update itself but i dont see anywhere to give it this permission. Has 
anyone else experienced this? I have windows 10 home and office 365.


Thanks in advance for any help,

Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Kliphton Miller

do you have those instructions in a previous email you could send to me?  I 
came late to the thread.  Just send it to
kliph...@icloud.com
note the spelling of my name is not traditional.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Clifton,
> 
> Yes I do it myself and I’ve outlined the steps previously. I don’t have the 
> time to keep repeating myself. Do not hesitate to ask about something 
> specific you are struggling with.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 19:27, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
>> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and 
>> not be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to 
>> the programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  
>> Thanks.
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>>> 
>>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>>> 
>>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
>>> the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
>>> your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
>>> By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
>>> closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
>>> commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
>>> the focus on the book I want to open.
>>> 
>>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > wrote:
 
 Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
 ebook to word or html.
 For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
 htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
 somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
 lcoud TO the mac…
 Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  > wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
> wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>> myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>> generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>> search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>> free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
>>> as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Dock x of x

2016-10-07 Thread E.T.

   In Sierra, can this "Dock x of x" be turned off? I did not see 
anything for this in Verbosity preferences.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi, For me even with the help provided it does not work on the mac. However I 
can get the book spulled down using the ‘accessible’ version of kindle for 
windows. I am now trying to use codex to convert them, still in the proces 
though so not sure yet if it will work.
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 20:27, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
> be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
> programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>>> ebook to word or html.
>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO 
>>> the mac…
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
 
 that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
 program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
 
 On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
 wrote:
> Hello David etc.
> 
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
> 
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
> generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
> 
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > > wrote:
>> 
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello Clifton,

Yes I do it myself and I’ve outlined the steps previously. I don’t have the 
time to keep repeating myself. Do not hesitate to ask about something specific 
you are struggling with.

Gena


> On 7 Oct 2016, at 19:27, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
> be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
> programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>>> ebook to word or html.
>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO 
>>> the mac…
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
 
 that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
 program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
 
 On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
 wrote:
> Hello David etc.
> 
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
> 
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
> generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
> 
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > > wrote:
>> 
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
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Remove Voices from Voice over on Sierra

2016-10-07 Thread Ramy Moustafa

Hello all:
WHile I  was in EL capitan, if I need to remove Voices from Voice over
even if they are downloading right now, I can uncheck them, and they
are disappeared, but now on sierra. I have many voices that I don't
need, and some other voices that I checked to download are still
waiting, even here I can't see the progress bar for downloading voces,
and also, can not remove voices that I don't need,
is there a way to do this/

Thanks in advance


On 10/7/16, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello E.T.,
>
> To say that such a thing does not happen on the 3rd generation would not be
> necessarily accurate as, once upon a time, back in 2013, I believe, there
> were problems upgrading from the 2nd gen to the third.
>
> A more accurate answer is that the videos that will not currently play on
> the 4th do play on the 3rd.
>
> To date, no one has discerned a common denominator as to which will play and
> which will not.
>
> The only people who have offered an explanation is Apple and there theory
> does not hold up in the real world.  I am certain that someone at Apple can
> resolve the problem, but, to date, no solution has been published.
>
> What I find most annoying is that the mp4 videos, in question, play in
> iTunes and on all Apple devices, except the 4th generation Apple TV.
>
> Once upon a time it was made clear, by Apple no less, that anything that
> will play in iTunes will play on all of their devices.  Apparently, this is
> true, no longer.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some MP4 Videos Will Not Play on Apple TV 4th Generation
>
> Mark,
> I do not have a 4th. Does this happen with the 3rd? Curious if the
> videos that will not play have something in common, such as where you got
> them, if they were ripped/converted, etc.
>
> In the next day or so I can try this as part of testing my new Sierra
> installation.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 10/6/2016 8:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm not certain if this has been discussed, on list, but for whatever
>> reason, some of my mp4 videos won't play on my 4th gen Apple TV.
>>
>> The funny thing is that they play just fine in both the Mac and
>> Windows versions of iTunes and, moreover, on all of my iOS devices.
>>
>> After searching the web, I discovered that this is happening to a lot
>> of people.  Some have suggested that the reason for the problem has to
>> do with the way in which the video was encoded/created.  However, this
>> does not explain why some videos, created only moments before others,
>> in my case at least, play just fine while others do not.
>>
>> In iTunes, there is an option to make Apple TV versions of videos.
>> However, when many of us attempt to do this, we receive the message
>> that the videos are already correctly formatted.
>>
>> I'm going to paste in a URL to an apple discussion that highlights
>> this issue.
>>
>> Fortunately for me, I don't have many mp4 videos that don't play but,
>> still, how annoying especially when all play just fine on other
>> devices, including Apple TV 3rd generation.
>>
>> Link to discussion:
>> https://discussions.apple.com/message/29230225#29230225
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Kliphton Miller

Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
> subdirectory of your documents folder.
> 
> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
> 
> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the 
> pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the 
> book I want to open.
> 
> As I said, it’s clunky!
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the 
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>>> wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
subdirectory of your documents folder.

~/Documents/Ebook Converter/

As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing it 
by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the pull 
down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the book I 
want to open.

As I said, it’s clunky!

Gena

> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow been 
> able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>> 
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>> wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>>> than necessary.
>>> 
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>> 
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > wrote:

 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.

 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
 well.

 David Griffith

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> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
> books with VoiceOver?
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appleTV4 on sale at sams club

2016-10-07 Thread Kliphton Miller

For those of you who have been thinking about an appleTV4, the 64GB model is on 
sale at sams club for only 148 bucks.  You must be a member obviously but that 
is a steel since it is normally 200.  I don’t know if they sell the 32GB model, 
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

Hey Mark,

Well, glad I could brighten your Friday. :)  When I first saw the Yammer Roots 
folder, I thought I'd gotten some kind of virus.  As it turns out, I suppose I 
had, the Microsoft virus. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Donna,
> 
> Even though I do not like making idle replies, on list, I just had to tell 
> you that your statement, quote, God, I hate Microsoft!, end quote, made me 
> laugh out loud, as all too often, I say the same sentence to myself, when I 
> deal with their products--especially their online products.
> 
> Thank you so much for making my day.  What a wonderful gift, the gift of 
> laughter.
> 
> Still Smiling,
> 
> Mark
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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> Subject: Re: Mailbox question
> 
> OK, so a little bit of googling answered my question, going to post to 
> hopefully save some of you the trouble.  apparently it's Microsoft crap.  
> There is some program called Yammer, and Microsoft, in its beneficence, 
> decided we should all have this on our computers.  If you have an Outlook 
> account, you probably have it too.  working on figuring out how to get rid of 
> it.  God, I hate Microsoft!
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was just looking in my mailbox list, and came across a mailbox I've never 
>> noticed before.  It is called Yammer Root.  Does anyone else have this on 
>> their Mac?  I did not create it, so if it's not system related, I want to 
>> delete it.  Still running El Cap, in case that matters.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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RE: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread M. Taylor

Donna,

Even though I do not like making idle replies, on list, I just had to tell you 
that your statement, quote, God, I hate Microsoft!, end quote, made me laugh 
out loud, as all too often, I say the same sentence to myself, when I deal with 
their products--especially their online products.

Thank you so much for making my day.  What a wonderful gift, the gift of 
laughter.

Still Smiling,

Mark

-Original Message-
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mailbox question

OK, so a little bit of googling answered my question, going to post to 
hopefully save some of you the trouble.  apparently it's Microsoft crap.  There 
is some program called Yammer, and Microsoft, in its beneficence, decided we 
should all have this on our computers.  If you have an Outlook account, you 
probably have it too.  working on figuring out how to get rid of it.  God, I 
hate Microsoft!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was just looking in my mailbox list, and came across a mailbox I've never 
> noticed before.  It is called Yammer Root.  Does anyone else have this on 
> their Mac?  I did not create it, so if it's not system related, I want to 
> delete it.  Still running El Cap, in case that matters.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Speaking Bar in IOS10

2016-10-07 Thread Ray Foret jr

Interesting you should bring this up.  With IOS10, I seem always to have 
trouble locating the controls for the speak screen.  Somewhere in the middle of 
the screen I believe but can’t really be sure.  Any quick way you know of to 
find them?


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Hit 'stop'. You must have activated Speak Screen, a feature where swiping two 
> fingers down on the status bar will read the screen aloud using speech that 
> can be customized independently from VoiceOver. Stopping this should dismiss 
> the bar until you need it again.
>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 21:10, Marcia Yale > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed, since updating to IOS10, that often when I exit from the AT
>> Bat app by pressing the home button I get a message with two buttons:
>> "minimize speaking bar" and "stop". Does any of you know what this refers
>> to? If I press the first one, it changes its name to "expand speaking bar",
>> but nothing really helpful seems to happen!
>> 
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>> It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi Sandi, if the books are in kindle i am sure I can locate the folder and copy 
them. The question was and is how to get them to the mac in the first place 
bacause the kindle app seems totally inaccessible with voiceover (perhaps it 
works with magnification but I am totally blind).
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 13:11, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
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> well, I'm sure thee is ways to do that. i have a few ones from another
> book store. if you are good with the terminal in mac, you could just
> grep or make a search for them
> 
> On 10/7/16, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough?
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for
 myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
 pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
 generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to
 search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a
 free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading
> using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make
> the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here
> as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
>> program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

Yeah, in typical Microsoft fashion, it seems to be undeletable.  GRRR.
Donna
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Re: alternative free conversion tool for kindle for use with calibre

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi, yes for mac and pc both standalone apps and plugins for calibre.
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 13:36, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> Is this for mac or PC?
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I mentioned a conversion tool in my last post but that one is not free, this 
>> one is it does require calibre though but on rechecking that app it seems to 
>> be fairly accessible, here is the link for downloading the tool it seems to 
>> be wellmaintained:
>> https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/releases/tag/v6.5.1 
>> 
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Daniel Chavez

Good luck with figuring out how to remove the mailbox.

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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

And, in typical Microsoft fashion, they will not let you delete it.  I'll post 
if I find a solution.
Cheers,
Donna
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> From my Googling, I'd say if you use Outlook, you have it.  I'm going to 
> delete it, we'll see what happens.  Apparently Yammer is a collaboration tool 
> that Microsoft is trying to launch.
> cheers,
> Donna
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>> trange that showed up in your list, though I doubt that that mailbox is 
>> system related.
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Daniel Chavez

Hi again,
I guess this is what I get for passing up emails. You had said what the mailbox 
was and I didn't see this until after, I had sent my first reply to you.
Microsoft is getting quite out of hand with the amount of crap they put on PC's 
these days, which is exactly why, when I needed a new computer, it wasn't a 
Windows PC I chose, instead, it was an Apple Mac.

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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

>From my Googling, I'd say if you use Outlook, you have it.  I'm going to 
>delete it, we'll see what happens.  Apparently Yammer is a collaboration tool 
>that Microsoft is trying to launch.
cheers,
Donna
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Re: Selecting text from web pages in Safari

2016-10-07 Thread Larry Thacker Jr.

Thanks.  I’ve used the 3rd approach for small bits of text in other situations 
but didn’t think of the first two.  Still learning the finer points of 
Voiceover.

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 12:31 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Larry,
> 
> I use various strategies for selecting text in Safari because different pages 
> behave differently.
> 1. Using Quick Nav, set the rotor to Lines and hold down the Shift key and 
> press the Down Arrow.
> 2. Without Quick Nav, press VO-Return to start selecting text, navigate right 
> with the VO keys and press VO-Return to end selection.
> 3. Make VoiceOver read the text required then press VO-Shift-c to copy the 
> last spoken phrase to the clipboard.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 17:47, Larry Thacker Jr. > > wrote:
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>> Before the latest update to Safari in El Capitan, I was able to use shift 
>> and arrow keys to select text on a web page and copy it to the clipboard.  
>> This could be done on any text, not just that inside of edit boxes.  After 
>> the upgrade, this almost never works.  pressing the arrow keys doesn’t yield 
>> any speech from Voiceover.  I started to ask this once before and all of a 
>> sudden it worked so I abandoned the question.  But it was just that once.  I 
>> haven’t been able to do it since.  Can anyone tell me why and how to get 
>> around the problem?
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Daniel Chavez

Hi,
I've never herd of such a mailbox myself and I run El Cap as well. Quites 
trange that showed up in your list, though I doubt that that mailbox is system 
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Re: Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

OK, so a little bit of googling answered my question, going to post to 
hopefully save some of you the trouble.  apparently it's Microsoft crap.  There 
is some program called Yammer, and Microsoft, in its beneficence, decided we 
should all have this on our computers.  If you have an Outlook account, you 
probably have it too.  working on figuring out how to get rid of it.  God, I 
hate Microsoft!
Cheers,
Donna
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> noticed before.  It is called Yammer Root.  Does anyone else have this on 
> their Mac?  I did not create it, so if it's not system related, I want to 
> delete it.  Still running El Cap, in case that matters.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Mailbox question

2016-10-07 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi all,

I was just looking in my mailbox list, and came across a mailbox I've never 
noticed before.  It is called Yammer Root.  Does anyone else have this on their 
Mac?  I did not create it, so if it's not system related, I want to delete it.  
Still running El Cap, in case that matters.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

2016-10-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn

It sounds like you made too many changes to the iCloud account and that Apple 
wants you to wait to turn on two factor. 
Consider this a security feature, if somebody works on guessing your password 
and eventually gets it right, you would not want them to then be able to change 
your authentication schemes and completely lock you out.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> hi Simon. How are you? I did everything  you told me,and I loggign to my 
> apple ID, and I don't see it.  It only gives me, update your contact 
> information, change  security questions and so n. And I find all these 
> options  after I double tap on password and security. Do you think the reason 
> I can't activate two-factor authentication is because I purchase  tmy iPHone 
> from my carrier instead  of the apple  store? Just wondering. I think you 
> need to call  me in ordr to see what's going on! Not now,  but maybe later 
> today. This is very weird for  me.  I even try to activate it from my Mac 
> computer and  it told me that I can't activate two-factor authentication with 
> this appple ID at this time. I really don't know why. I fyou have any idea  
> why it is  giving em this message, let me know. I wil really appreciate it a 
> lot. I look forward in hearing form you soon. thanks and God bless!
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>> Hi Helga,
>>  
>> Are you actually already logged into iCloud?
>>  
>> When you go into settings,
>> Then find iCloud,
>> Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if 
>> you tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
>> Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your 
>> two factor authentication and hope fully enable it.
>>  
>> If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account 
>> password  which after entering the password will allow you in to the account 
>> area.
>>  
>>  Hopefully this will work for you this time?
>>  
>> Let us know how you get on.
>>  
>> Cheers,
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>>  
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Re: alternative free conversion tool for kindle for use with calibre

2016-10-07 Thread Kliphton Miller

Is this for mac or PC?
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I mentioned a conversion tool in my last post but that one is not free, this 
> one is it does require calibre though but on rechecking that app it seems to 
> be fairly accessible, here is the link for downloading the tool it seems to 
> be wellmaintained:
> https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/releases/tag/v6.5.1 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse

well, I'm sure thee is ways to do that. i have a few ones from another
book store. if you are good with the terminal in mac, you could just
grep or make a search for them

On 10/7/16, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough?
> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow
> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the
> mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>>
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for
>>> myself
>>> than necessary.
>>>
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
>>> pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
>>> generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to
>>> search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>>
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a
>>> free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Gena
>>>
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:

 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading
 using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.


 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make
 the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here
 as
 well.


 David Griffith


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> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
> program
> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
> books with VoiceOver?
>
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alternative free conversion tool for kindle for use with calibre

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi,
I mentioned a conversion tool in my last post but that one is not free, this 
one is it does require calibre though but on rechecking that app it seems to be 
fairly accessible, here is the link for downloading the tool it seems to be 
wellmaintained:
https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/releases/tag/v6.5.1 

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Re: Speaking Bar in IOS10

2016-10-07 Thread Alex Hall

Hit 'stop'. You must have activated Speak Screen, a feature where swiping two 
fingers down on the status bar will read the screen aloud using speech that can 
be customized independently from VoiceOver. Stopping this should dismiss the 
bar until you need it again.
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 21:10, Marcia Yale  wrote:
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> I have noticed, since updating to IOS10, that often when I exit from the AT
> Bat app by pressing the home button I get a message with two buttons:
> "minimize speaking bar" and "stop". Does any of you know what this refers
> to? If I press the first one, it changes its name to "expand speaking bar",
> but nothing really helpful seems to happen!
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Re: youtube on the mac

2016-10-07 Thread Alex Hall

You'd assign the command "always allow keyboard commands to navigate websites" 
to a commander. For help with commanders, see my AppleVis guide:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/understanding-and-using-voiceovers-commanders
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 15:14, aliFaisal  wrote:
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> Hi Alex,
> How would I go about setting that up with the keyboard commander?
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 6:34 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> You can also use 1 through 0 to skip to 10%, 20%, 30%, and so on. Up and 
>> down arrows will change the volume, though you must have the VO setting to 
>> pass arrows directly to the webpage enabled (I suggest a keyboard commander).
>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 06:22, Faisal ali >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks will try that.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:21 AM, David Griffith > wrote:
 
 Try in Safari
 
 
 1. Turn Quick Nav off.
 
 
 Now Try using
 
 2.  Pressing K to pause
 
 3. Press L to skip forward
 
 4. Press J to skip back.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
> On 06/10/2016 04:23, Faisal ali wrote:
> 
> so what youtube apps or any do people use and recommend for the mac? I 
> have tried to use safari, but it’s not a very good experience in my 
> opinion. for instance, I am unable to fast forward and rewind. Is there 
> some trick to use youtube in safari if there aren’t any apps available?
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
 it can strip drm AND convert the kindle ebook 
to word or html.
For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow been 
able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix

Hi everyone,
I have a HUGE kindle library and would love to read it on the mac with my 
braille display.
I read the messages below BUT for me I never am able to load books into kindle 
for mac because this seems to be totally vo inaccessible. Hoe do you guys do 
this?
I woo would like the link for the drm removal tool of course I would only use 
it on books that i have bought but want to use on other devi ces or read with 
my braille display.
Thanks in advance
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

2016-10-07 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse

that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
program, however, do you have a  url for that ?

On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> Hello David etc.
>
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
>
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Gena
>
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>>
>>
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

2016-10-07 Thread Helga Schreiber

hi Simon. How are you? I did everything  you told me,and I loggign to my apple 
ID, and I don't see it.  It only gives me, update your contact information, 
change  security questions and so n. And I find all these options  after I 
double tap on password and security. Do you think the reason I can't activate 
two-factor authentication is because I purchase  tmy iPHone from my carrier 
instead  of the apple  store? Just wondering. I think you need to call  me in 
ordr to see what's going on! Not now,  but maybe later today. This is very 
weird for  me.  I even try to activate it from my Mac computer and  it told me 
that I can't activate two-factor authentication with this appple ID at this 
time. I really don't know why. I fyou have any idea  why it is  giving em this 
message, let me know. I wil really appreciate it a lot. I look forward in 
hearing form you soon. thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
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Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Helga,
>  
> Are you actually already logged into iCloud?
>  
> When you go into settings,
> Then find iCloud,
> Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if 
> you tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
> Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your two 
> factor authentication and hope fully enable it.
>  
> If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account 
> password  which after entering the password will allow you in to the account 
> area.
>  
>  Hopefully this will work for you this time?
>  
> Let us know how you get on.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon F
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>  
> Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find 
> it  at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it says 
> it is off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on my  
> Mac, not on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  the 
> get  Two Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you can't 
> activate two Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? That is 
> very weird. I accidently try to activate two step verification and I can't 
> even activated since I change my apple ID account page infomration a lot. So 
> I can only activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin on? If 
> you want you are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on this. You 
> may thing I'm crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from you soon. 
> Thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>  
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Helga,
>  
> Yes Under setting,
> Then icloud
> Then under your name / apple icloud details,
> Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
> factor authentication
>  It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>  
> Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
> ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
> security, but it does tnot give em anything

RE: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

2016-10-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi Helga,

Are you actually already logged into iCloud?

When you go into settings,
Then find iCloud,
Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if you 
tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your two 
factor authentication and hope fully enable it.

If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account password 
 which after entering the password will allow you in to the account area.

 Hopefully this will work for you this time?

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,

Simon F

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find it  
at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it says it is 
off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on my  Mac, not 
on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  the get  Two 
Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you can't activate two 
Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? That is very weird. I 
accidently try to activate two step verification and I can't even activated 
since I change my apple ID account page infomration a lot. So I can only 
activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin on? If you want you 
are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on this. You may thing I'm 
crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God 
bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:
Hi Helga,

Yes Under setting,
Then icloud
Then under your name / apple icloud details,
Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
factor authentication
 It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
security, but it does tnot give em anything in order to activate two- factor 
authentication. I'm running IOS 10.0.2 on my iPhone 6S. I wil really appreciate 
ny help! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller 
> wrote:
Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and open 
up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because it uses 
your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone number.

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber 
> wrote:

Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good right? 
How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one of my 
devices, will the

Re: MenuBar Stats

2016-10-07 Thread Terje Strømberg

Tempurature and fan monitoring is not working here at the moment. Temperature 
is an add on feature (free) you have to download from the website. After backup 
and updating osx it did not work anymore. Used to be able to fix it with 
disabling it and disable it again in the add on app after backup. Hope this 
will be fixed in a update.

During installation do make a short cut - command key to show the window of 
menu bar stat or shortly after installation maybe, don’t remember exact. Useful 
to have it to get in to the parameter window fast. I have ti set to ctr - esc. 
Then i have ctrl - f15 to open the osx built in activity monitor. There are 
many more short cut. One that will not work is alert user if cpu usage increase 
more than 90% because 100% cpu usage in menubar stat app is some times only 20% 
if all 4 cpu's cores are in use. Menu bar stat monitor only one cpu it looks 
like.

Voice over do not speak the menu actually, but you will here the menu bar stat 
be announced, hit vo-space. Go right to options, down to preferences, hit 
enter. Make short cuts mentioned above. Important to have the option to get to 
the menu bar window parameter. In modules list and other lists you have to mark 
the module after moving  up down. Do not mark automatically.

Also benith the options, you can open disk utility, terminal etc. Do think it 
is possiblity to have short cut for allmost everything that have with technical 
purpose to do in osx own utilitys.

Take care

T

> 6. okt. 2016 kl. 23.41 skrev E.T. :
> 
>   Someone had recently mentioned MenuBar Stats. I am curious to know if it 
> really adds functionality. Its just $5 but I still wish to hear more 
> feedback. Thanks.
> 
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RE: Some MP4 Videos Will Not Play on Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-10-07 Thread M. Taylor

Hello E.T.,

To say that such a thing does not happen on the 3rd generation would not be 
necessarily accurate as, once upon a time, back in 2013, I believe, there were 
problems upgrading from the 2nd gen to the third.  

A more accurate answer is that the videos that will not currently play on the 
4th do play on the 3rd.  

To date, no one has discerned a common denominator as to which will play and 
which will not.  

The only people who have offered an explanation is Apple and there theory does 
not hold up in the real world.  I am certain that someone at Apple can resolve 
the problem, but, to date, no solution has been published.

What I find most annoying is that the mp4 videos, in question, play in iTunes 
and on all Apple devices, except the 4th generation Apple TV.  

Once upon a time it was made clear, by Apple no less, that anything that will 
play in iTunes will play on all of their devices.  Apparently, this is true, no 
longer.  

Mark  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some MP4 Videos Will Not Play on Apple TV 4th Generation

Mark,
I do not have a 4th. Does this happen with the 3rd? Curious if the videos 
that will not play have something in common, such as where you got them, if 
they were ripped/converted, etc.

In the next day or so I can try this as part of testing my new Sierra 
installation.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/6/2016 8:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm not certain if this has been discussed, on list, but for whatever 
> reason, some of my mp4 videos won't play on my 4th gen Apple TV.
>
> The funny thing is that they play just fine in both the Mac and 
> Windows versions of iTunes and, moreover, on all of my iOS devices.
>
> After searching the web, I discovered that this is happening to a lot 
> of people.  Some have suggested that the reason for the problem has to 
> do with the way in which the video was encoded/created.  However, this 
> does not explain why some videos, created only moments before others, 
> in my case at least, play just fine while others do not.
>
> In iTunes, there is an option to make Apple TV versions of videos.  
> However, when many of us attempt to do this, we receive the message 
> that the videos are already correctly formatted.
>
> I'm going to paste in a URL to an apple discussion that highlights 
> this issue.
>
> Fortunately for me, I don't have many mp4 videos that don't play but, 
> still, how annoying especially when all play just fine on other 
> devices, including Apple TV 3rd generation.
>
> Link to discussion:
> https://discussions.apple.com/message/29230225#29230225
>
> Mark
>

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