Re: google docs

2017-01-22 Thread Chris G 

Hi,
Others may have differing experiences, but I have found using Google 
Chrome and the screen reader  ChromeVox is a much better experience.
ChromeVox has its own way of dong things, you'll also need to turn off 
VoiceOver when using Chrome and ChromeVox.


Chris



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 Original Message 
From: Marie Lyons
Sent: Sunday, Jan 22, 2017 10:09 PM EST
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: google docs

I received an attachment in this format. I had to open it in Safari. I 
wasn’t sure how to use it using voiceover. I read through the document 
once but when I tried to review it a 2nd time I didn’t seem to be able 
to do it. Does anyone on this list use it? Could you give me some tips?


Marie Lyons


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RE: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Hey Tim,

 That was my thought Also,
 

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2017 5:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript

Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a 
> left and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left 
> and right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
> something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
> use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
> actually the right option key?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.
> 
>  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
> commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) 
> and a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting 
> I am overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 

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RE: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Hi,

 Just wondering if when you first connected the keyboard which I'm assuming is 
a windows keyboard I assume this from the model number K800 that you listed 
earlier.

When you connect a non Mac keyboard you normally get asked to set the keyboard 
up as it's unknown 

 Did you do this before the board started getting used?

 You might need to remove the keyboard and re configure it with the Mac OS so 
it knows what your using.

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Sent: Monday, 23 January 2017 10:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 
   Yes a few times. Just now I changed from right option key to left in 
VO Utility, Commanders, Keyboard. I will see if any conflicts arise from 
that as I use the Mac.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 8:03 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

 Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

 Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com





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Re: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a 
> left and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left 
> and right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
> something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
> use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
> actually the right option key?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.
> 
>  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
> commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) 
> and a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting 
> I am overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 

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Garage Band Resources?

2017-01-22 Thread Kat DeNicola 
Hi. I did a search for posts on garage band, but most of them are quite 
dated. Are there any podcasts or tutorials out there for using the latest 
version of it with voiceover on the mac? I couldn't find much, especially 
anything current, and I've never used it before so I don't know how much 
change there has been between versions. I was playing around with it trying 
to make a ringtone,  and it wasn't playing loops consistently, and then I 
couldn't figure out how to mix the tracks. So part of this is just not 
knowing what I'm doing, added to not knowing how to then do it with 
voiceover. Any direction towards appropriate resources would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks!

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google docs

2017-01-22 Thread Marie Lyons 
I received an attachment in this format. I had to open it in Safari. I wasn’t 
sure how to use it using voiceover. I read through the document once but when I 
tried to review it a 2nd time I didn’t seem to be able to do it. Does anyone on 
this list use it? Could you give me some tips?

Marie Lyons

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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 
   Not at the login screen but after, yes. Now to nail down the right 
option key.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 3:00 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes maybe.
Is it working as expected now?
/A

22 jan. 2017 kl. 20:15 skrev E.T. :

  Thanks Anders. You asked a good question. Its a Logitech K800. I had in fact 
swapped the option and command keys. This works as expected in both macOS and 
the Windows VM.

  But I tested and did a cold boot and used the control and command keys as the 
VO keys. Interesting, that did work.

  So perhaps this wireless keyboard's key swaps is not recognized until login 
is completed.

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On 1/22/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
What keyboard is it?
Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
what i understand from your mail they’re not.
/A

22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :

 I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I have 
VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, I do not 
hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual keyboard 
commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect on this. 
What to do? Thanks.

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Re: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 
   Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. 
The left and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO 
does speak the up and down arrow keys.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Yes maybe.
Is it working as expected now?
/A
> 22 jan. 2017 kl. 20:15 skrev E.T. :
> 
>   Thanks Anders. You asked a good question. Its a Logitech K800. I had in 
> fact swapped the option and command keys. This works as expected in both 
> macOS and the Windows VM.
> 
>   But I tested and did a cold boot and used the control and command keys as 
> the VO keys. Interesting, that did work.
> 
>   So perhaps this wireless keyboard's key swaps is not recognized until login 
> is completed.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/22/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> What keyboard is it?
>> Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
>> what i understand from your mail they’re not.
>> /A
>>> 22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :
>>> 
>>>  I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I 
>>> have VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, 
>>> I do not hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual 
>>> keyboard commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect 
>>> on this. What to do? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 

   Yes and this one, if I remember, will not be a difficult workaround.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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On 1/22/2017 1:07 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

That's correct.  The keyboard modifier key swapping is user specific, so will 
not be applied until after login.  As you've noticed the cmd and Option keys 
would therefore be swapped prior to login.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 12:15, E.T.  wrote:

  Thanks Anders. You asked a good question. Its a Logitech K800. I had in fact 
swapped the option and command keys. This works as expected in both macOS and 
the Windows VM.

  But I tested and did a cold boot and used the control and command keys as the 
VO keys. Interesting, that did work.

  So perhaps this wireless keyboard's key swaps is not recognized until login 
is completed.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
What keyboard is it?
Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
what i understand from your mail they’re not.
/A

22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :

 I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I have 
VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, I do not 
hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual keyboard 
commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect on this. 
What to do? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Applescript

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 

   Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

   Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, 
keyboard commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in 
preferences) and a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. 
Must be one setting I am overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.


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Re: Itunes dinging constantly, iPad repeating page number constantly

2017-01-22 Thread Agent086b 
hi,
I saw this suggested before and tried it with no luck. 
Max.
> On 22 Jan 2017, at 1:42 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Manually sync your iPhone with your computer in the iTunes panels, and that 
> should go away.
> 
> When this was happening to me it was after I upgraded to a new computer and 
> an upgraded the operating system.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I opened iTunes on my MacBook Pro this morning, and ever since then it
>> has been dinging every minute or so.  By ding, I mean the sound that
>> it usually makes when it finishes SYNCing or downloading an update.  I
>> have tried closing and re-opening iTunes and rebooting but it
>> continues to do this.
>> 
>> Similarly, VoiceOver on my iPad has been incessantly saying "Page 2 of
>> 12" as it would say when you scroll to a new page on the home screen.
>> I experienced this when I updated IOS to version 10, but was able to
>> fix it by turning VO off and then back on.  This time I can't seem to
>> fix it.  It even happens when the iPad is locked.  I am using an iPad
>> Air 2 from late 2014 and a retina MacBook Pro from late 2012.  Has
>> anyone found a solution to either of these problems?  I have to say, I
>> am becoming increasingly disappointed with the quality of Apple's
>> products as of late.  If things like this keep happening, I may switch
>> to the Android platform.  Ever since the iPhone 5 and the Maps
>> debacle, the company's quality control has gone down the toilet and
>> they have been rushing buggy products into the stores.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

That's correct.  The keyboard modifier key swapping is user specific, so will 
not be applied until after login.  As you've noticed the cmd and Option keys 
would therefore be swapped prior to login.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 12:15, E.T.  wrote:

  Thanks Anders. You asked a good question. Its a Logitech K800. I had in fact 
swapped the option and command keys. This works as expected in both macOS and 
the Windows VM.

  But I tested and did a cold boot and used the control and command keys as the 
VO keys. Interesting, that did work.

  So perhaps this wireless keyboard's key swaps is not recognized until login 
is completed.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> What keyboard is it?
> Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
> what i understand from your mail they’re not.
> /A
>> 22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :
>> 
>>  I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I 
>> have VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, I 
>> do not hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual 
>> keyboard commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect 
>> on this. What to do? Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 
   Thanks Anders. You asked a good question. Its a Logitech K800. I had 
in fact swapped the option and command keys. This works as expected in 
both macOS and the Windows VM.


   But I tested and did a cold boot and used the control and command 
keys as the VO keys. Interesting, that did work.


   So perhaps this wireless keyboard's key swaps is not recognized 
until login is completed.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
What keyboard is it?
Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
what i understand from your mail they’re not.
/A

22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :

  I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I have 
VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, I do not 
hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual keyboard 
commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect on this. 
What to do? Thanks.

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Re: Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
What keyboard is it?
Can it be that the command key and maybe the option key is swapped but from 
what i understand from your mail they’re not.
/A
> 22 jan. 2017 kl. 19:59 skrev E.T. :
> 
>   I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at login. I 
> have VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the new keyboard, I 
> do not hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully execute the usual 
> keyboard commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. Cmd F5 has no effect 
> on this. What to do? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Voiceover at Login

2017-01-22 Thread E.T. 
   I installed a new wireless keybaord which works fine except at 
login. I have VO enabled at the login screen but since installing the 
new keyboard, I do not hear it yet VO commands work. I can carefully 
execute the usual keyboard commands and once logged in, VO speech is on. 
Cmd F5 has no effect on this. What to do? Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
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Re: Marking an application as trusted in El Capitan

2017-01-22 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
This is an issue with how the application this design. It must be modifying 
part of its package contents.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:54 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> This is what is supposed to happen.  But in my experience, it just doesn't.  
> I'm on Sierra, and although I always open itext express in this way a,d would 
> expect not to have to open it via contextual menu once I've done it a few 
> times, I still have to do this.  I'm not sure where and how to report this to 
> Apple because it's not strictly accessibility issue.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Jan 2017, at 19:58, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Locate the app within your Mac's Applications folder, press VO-shift-m to 
>> bring up the Contextual menu, then choose Open.  A dialog will appear for 
>> you to confirm and it should open without dialogs from then on.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 09:37, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> hello, 
>> I am running the latest El Capitan on my late 2008 iMac.
>> My security options are set to only open applications from the Mac App store 
>> or from identified developers. 
>> I have an editing application obtained elsewhere which I trust. Is it 
>> possible to mark this application as trusted so that I do not get error 
>> messages when I try too open files which were last modified by this 
>> application? Currently I have to go to system preferences and then security 
>> and then click the button to say that it is OK to open the file with the 
>> above identified application. This is all a pain and I want to avoid having 
>> to do this. 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
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Re: Marking an application as trusted in El Capitan

2017-01-22 Thread Andrew Lamanche 
Hi Tim,

This is what is supposed to happen.  But in my experience, it just doesn't.  
I'm on Sierra, and although I always open itext express in this way a,d would 
expect not to have to open it via contextual menu once I've done it a few 
times, I still have to do this.  I'm not sure where and how to report this to 
Apple because it's not strictly accessibility issue.

Best wishes

Andrew
> On 21 Jan 2017, at 19:58, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Locate the app within your Mac's Applications folder, press VO-shift-m to 
> bring up the Contextual menu, then choose Open.  A dialog will appear for you 
> to confirm and it should open without dialogs from then on.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 21, 2017, at 09:37, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> hello, 
> I am running the latest El Capitan on my late 2008 iMac.
> My security options are set to only open applications from the Mac App store 
> or from identified developers. 
> I have an editing application obtained elsewhere which I trust. Is it 
> possible to mark this application as trusted so that I do not get error 
> messages when I try too open files which were last modified by this 
> application? Currently I have to go to system preferences and then security 
> and then click the button to say that it is OK to open the file with the 
> above identified application. This is all a pain and I want to avoid having 
> to do this. 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
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