Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Try using FN-VO-shift-down to read the next paragraph.  Depending on your 
keyboard settings, you may or may not need the FN key.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2017, at 17:29, Candie Stiles  wrote:

I can't seem to find paragraphs in the roder. I see characters, words, and 
navigation, but no paragraphs. I went to the voice over utility and looked for 
it but didn't see it there either: How do you select paragraph in the roder 
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:

> Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to use 
> it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search 
> functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in 
> most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep. 
> 
> Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?
> 
> Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> Hello Candie,
> 
> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, 
> if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick 
> Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down 
> arrow.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  > > wrote:
> >
> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For 
> > example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by 
> > page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and 
> > all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys 
> > will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can 
> > solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or 
> > document by lines.
> >
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Candie Stiles]

I can't seem to find paragraphs in the roder. I see characters, words, and 
navigation, but no paragraphs. I went to the voice over utility and looked for 
it but didn't see it there either: How do you select paragraph in the roder 
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to use 
> it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search 
> functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in 
> most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep. 
> 
> Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?
> 
> Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
>> On 8 March 2017 at 11:33, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> Hello Candie,
>> 
>> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, 
>> if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick 
>> Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down 
>> arrow.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
>> >
>> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For 
>> > example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by 
>> > page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and 
>> > all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys 
>> > will move the cursor to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can 
>> > solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or 
>> > document by lines.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: YouTube TV Release Date, Price and Specs

[Scott Granados]

Hi, it’s more like a version of sling TV or yes a thin bundled service like our 
cable or sky.  We also use dishes here as well with Directv and Dish Network / 
Echo Star.

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:55 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So is this going to compete against netflicks or is it more along the lines 
> of Cable tv for you American type folks?
> 
> Or what we have here down under called Sky which is a satalite tv 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 4:34 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Re: YouTube TV Release Date, Price and Specs
> 
> Not really, youtube is offering a decent selection in compared to other 
> things like Sling I think, correct me if I’m wrong.  You generally only add 
> on the services you want like an HBO or the like.  I’m heavily considering 
> cutting the cord on TV so interested in this topic a lot.
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Certainly more competition is a good thing, although it sounds like youtube 
>> will need to offer more channels in order to compete with the other 
>> services, at this point, the channel list is rather lacking.
>> Original message:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>>> Here is an article that I thought you may find interesting.
>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>> 
>>> Mark
>> 
>>> YouTube TV Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET CNET Reviews - 
>>> Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:52 AM
>> 
>>> Cable TV just got its biggest competitor yet.
>> 
>>> YouTube, the most popular video service on the web that recently 
>>> announced it streamed one billion hours per day, is now launching a 
>>> live TV service called YouTube TV.
>> 
>>> Unlike the free YouTube you know so well, populated by cat videos, 
>>> how-tos and myriad independent channels and shows, YouTube TV is a 
>>> direct competitor to cable you'll have to pay for. It will deliver 
>>> live local TV channels like ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC as well as cable 
>>> stalwarts like ESPN, the Disney Channel, Fox News and Bravo. 
>>> (Disclosure: CBS is the parent company of CNET and Showtime.) The 
>>> cost? $35 per month. YouTube hasn't yet set a release date, saying 
>>> only that YouTube TV will appear "in the next few months."
>> 
>>> If you've never had cable TV service, you've already cut the cord, or 
>>> you're on the fence considering whether to do so, YouTube TV offers 
>>> yet another basically risk-free service to consider. Risk-free 
>>> because you can cancel anytime and you're only out $35. Try that with your 
>>> cable company.
>> 
>>> Three similar services exist already, namely Sling TV, PlayStation 
>>> Vue and DirecTV Now, and Hulu has said it will debut yet another 
>>> entry in this field before the end of the year, too. All offer 
>>> various channel packages and features for a range of prices, starting at 
>>> $20 per month for Sling TV.
>>> Here's a closer look.
>> 
>>> How does YouTube TV's channels compare?
>>> This is the big unknown, mainly because it could add more channels 
>>> between now and when it launches.
>> 
>>> YouTube TV claims it's still negotiating with a few program providers 
>>> to add channels. It says that the price won't go up if and when that 
>>> happens.
>> 
>>> In the meantime, here are all of the channels it has announced so far:
>> 
>>> The networks included in YouTube TV are mostly the major broadcast 
>>> networks and the cable channels owned by their parent companies.
>>> YouTube
>> 
>>> If it launches with only the channels above, its total number of 
>>> channels will fall short of the base packages offered by DirecTV Now 
>>> ($35/month) and PlayStation Vue ($30 or $40). The selection above is 
>>> more than Sling offers in its base package ($20/month), however.
>> 
>>> Major channels missing from YouTube TV's lineup, yet available on 
>>> other services, include AMC, CNN, Comedy Central, Discovery, Food 
>>> Network, MTV and TNT, among many others. HBO is also a no-show, but 
>>> you can sign up for HBO Now separately.
>> 
>>> If you're curious, here's a tally of all of the channels available on 
>>> the other three.
>>> YouTube TV will include YouTube Red original shows and movies. It 
>>> also says that all of YouTube's trademark user-generated and 
>>> online-native content would be folded into YouTube TV's searches.
>>> Beyond channels, what else should I know?
>> 
>>> The features included with a YouTube TV subscription are similar to 
>>> what is offered on other devices, with some major differences.
>> 
>>> .   Cloud DVR with unlimited storage
>>> .   3 simultaneous streams per account
>>> .   6 user profiles with separate log-ins per account
>>> .   Works with Chromecast, Google Home, computers, iOS and Android
>>> phones and tablets
>>> .   Launching in select major US cities only
>> 
>>> 

Re: Iphone in Lost mode.

[Scott Granados]

I’m not sure about the end user but I know the carrier can still track the 
phone even if it’s wiped .  Probably the end user can not though if a full wipe 
has taken place.

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you can find it with some restrictions.  The iPhone needs to be on and 
> connected to a network.  Putting it in Lost Mode will help to restrict use of 
> it though as it will, I believe, lock it up as soon as connection is made.  
> Once you erase the phone, though, I believe that you no longer have any 
> ability to locate it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:23, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> interesting , i thought you could find your Iphone with that feature...
> 
> On 3/8/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> My Iphone got stolen last sunday and thank god for apples find my Iphone so
>> i could put it in lost mode and then delete it.
>> A question though.
>> Will it still be shown in icloud so i have to remove it from icloud?
>> I have downgraded to an Iphone 4 S which i don’t recommend if you’re used to
>> something faster.
>> But it works so thats not a problem.
>> /A
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dropbox strangeness

[jean parker]

Hi ET:

You beat me to it, indeed you are correct.

All is well now.

Jean

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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moving video & Audio files

[David and his growing pack of dogs. Benny, no longer with us his memory lives on through]

How do I clear out most of my storage on my IPhone 6S plus?  I want to
move most video and Audio files onto an external hard drive but, do
not know if it is possible.  Or, if it even can be done.  I have a
capacity of 128 G.  I have already used, according to the storage
report via settings, 96.3 G.  with 23 G of usable space left.  Thus my
query.

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Re: contact unlinked

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Good work.  Hadn't got to looking into that one yet.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2017, at 13:49, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Not sure how I did it, but I was able to unlink them on my phone.
Cheers,
Donna

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contact unlinked

[Donna Goodin]

Not sure how I did it, but I was able to unlink them on my phone.
Cheers,
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Re: How do I unlink contacts

[Donna Goodin]

I don't see anything pertaining to unlinking.  How about on my iPhone?
TIA,
Donna
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I haven't done this in a while, but I believe that if you go to Contacts on 
> your Mac, navigate to the linked contact, then up to the Card menu and there 
> should be an unlink option in that menu.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 13:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I have two contacts that somehow got linked, and it's driving me nuts.  How 
> do I unlink them?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: How do I unlink contacts

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I haven't done this in a while, but I believe that if you go to Contacts on 
your Mac, navigate to the linked contact, then up to the Card menu and there 
should be an unlink option in that menu.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2017, at 13:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:

I have two contacts that somehow got linked, and it's driving me nuts.  How do 
I unlink them?
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How do I unlink contacts

[Donna Goodin]

I have two contacts that somehow got linked, and it's driving me nuts.  How do 
I unlink them?
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Creating email folders and labels

[Traci Duncan]

I usually go onto the web and log into gMail to create new folders and labels, 
but I was wondering can this be done in Mac mail?  If so, would it be just the 
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Voiceover keyboard shortcut switching languages

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between 2 languages?  I know of the 
rotor, but sometimes it’s hard to understand the foreign language speak the 
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I prefer it on iOs where the system voice, in my case English, speaks while I 
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Re: Iphone in Lost mode.

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Hi,

Yes, you can find it with some restrictions.  The iPhone needs to be on and 
connected to a network.  Putting it in Lost Mode will help to restrict use of 
it though as it will, I believe, lock it up as soon as connection is made.  
Once you erase the phone, though, I believe that you no longer have any ability 
to locate it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:23, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:

interesting , i thought you could find your Iphone with that feature...

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> My Iphone got stolen last sunday and thank god for apples find my Iphone so
> i could put it in lost mode and then delete it.
> A question though.
> Will it still be shown in icloud so i have to remove it from icloud?
> I have downgraded to an Iphone 4 S which i don’t recommend if you’re used to
> something faster.
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Re: Iphone in Lost mode.

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

interesting , i thought you could find your Iphone with that feature...

On 3/8/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> My Iphone got stolen last sunday and thank god for apples find my Iphone so
> i could put it in lost mode and then delete it.
> A question though.
> Will it still be shown in icloud so i have to remove it from icloud?
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Iphone in Lost mode.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
My Iphone got stolen last sunday and thank god for apples find my Iphone so i 
could put it in lost mode and then delete it.
A question though.
Will it still be shown in icloud so i have to remove it from icloud?
I have downgraded to an Iphone 4 S which i don’t recommend if you’re used to 
something faster.
But it works so thats not a problem.
/A

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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Wow, since we started talking about pageUp/PageDown, I started trying to
use it again. Usually I was using paragraph moves , read all or search
functionality. I also noticing that in both El Capitan and Siera  that in
most places where vo-pageDown and vo-PageUp just beep.

Does anybody have an older system around so we could see how these behave?

Also curious if anybody has tried single modifier with PageUp/PageDown?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


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> Hello Candie,
>
> The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails.
> However, if you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work.
> With Quick Nav on, you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to
> press the down arrow.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
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> > On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
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> > I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For
> example when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by
> page, I press the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and
> all I hear is a beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys
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> solve this issue? It is time consuming to move through a long email or
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Re: page up and page down on the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Candie,

The page up and page down commands don’t appear to work in emails. However, if 
you interact with the text, the other VO commands will work. With Quick Nav on, 
you can set the rotor to Paragraphs and only have to press the down arrow.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Mar 2017, at 17:08, Candie Stiles  wrote:
> 
> I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
> when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
> the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
> beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor 
> to home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is 
> time consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 
> 
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Re: dropbox strangeness

[E.T.]

   The Files tab bug is fixed with the latest update that was released 
yesterday.


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On 3/5/2017 2:18 PM, E.T. wrote:

   Forgot to mention, DB also has a search function.

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On 3/5/2017 1:29 PM, jean parker wrote:

You said not to tap the files tab but how do I get to my files if I
don’t open the tab?

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland





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page up and page down on the mac

[Candie Stiles]

I am still having difficulty going up and down a page on the mac. For example 
when I'm reading through a long email and want to move down by page, I press 
the function key along with the vo keys and down arrow, and all I hear is a 
beep and nothing happens. The left and right arrow keys will move the cursor to 
home and end just fine. Does anyone know how I can solve this issue? It is time 
consuming to move through a long email or document by lines. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: password managers?

[E.T.]

   Probably around 30-40 US$ for both Windows and Mac.

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On 3/7/2017 11:56 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

 Any idea what the price of one password is?

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Subject: Re: password managers?

Had. As in past tense. Think they offer a trial version. By the way if you 
buy both Windows and macOS, the iOS app is free.

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   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/7/2017 8:34 AM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi E.T., I thought one password had VO issues?
Thanks Jeff


On 3/7/17, E.T.  wrote:

1Password. Supports Windows, macOS and iOS,

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/7/2017 5:11 AM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, So I'm getting tired of forgetting passwords and am thinking
about getting a password manager. Does anyone know of one that's
accessible with VO and also works under windows 10 with Jaws or System Access?
Thanks Jeff



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Re: Looking for a Check Printing App

[Singing Sparrow]

I Would also like to know this as well.

What other programs are good for this task.


On 3/6/2017 7:10 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
I’m looking for a Check Writing/Register app for my Mac Mini; I 
currently have Checkbook Pro but it doesn’t support a check printing 
feature. Can anyone offer a suggestion for an app that:


- Is predominantly accessible to a totally blind person.
- Offers a reasonably straight-forward check register.
- Can be used to print out checks.

I assume that I will require “Quickbooks Style” full sheet checks that 
can readily be passed through a standard printer; that’s fine because 
I already have those.


Checkbook Pro - as a check register program - is excellent but does 
not support check printing. For now, I’ve been using the “Check 
Printer” app on my iPhone to get checks printed, but I’d really prefer 
to have an app that “does it all.” I contacted the folks at Splasm 
last spring and they responded that there would be an update to 
Checkbook Pro with a check printing feature this last autumn. 
 However, this past autumn they contacted me again to inform me that 
the check printing feature would be delayed until this winter.  Well, 
there’s only a couple of weeks left in “this winter” and I’ve heard 
nothing of the update.


I must say that Splasm has been excellent in providing VoiceOver 
accessibility with Checkbook Pro, but it does not meet all my needs as 
I do want an app that will let me print out checks as well as provide 
a great online check register!


Bill
- "That I have no sight, does not mean I have no vision."
- Bill Gallik, Northern Wisconsin Curmudgeon, 1952-20?? (I am 
NOT delusional)??


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