p cloud problems

[jean parker]

Hi Simon:

I have been using dropbox for many years. I have it linked to an external drive 
because I have a large number of files on their and I don’t want it taking up 
space on my hard drive. Currently, I have between 5 and 6 hundred gigs in my 
dropbox.

Recently, I went to make some adjustments to my dropbox and found that I 
couldn’t open it. So I tried to uninstall it and I keep getting error messages 
implying that it can’t deleted because it is in use, which it isn’t, or that 
some extentions are in use, or some other cryptic nonsense.

To try and remedy the problem I thought to try p cloud thinking that I could 
store all of my files in it and it wouldn’t take up space on my drive thereby 
eliminating the external drive issue.  I installed that and basically the same 
thing happened. It won’t open and it also won’t uninstall.

Honestly, I get so tired of this sort of thing!

Jean
  
Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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Re: Accessing attachments in Mail on the Mac

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
First I navigate to the bottom of the email and find the attachment. It will 
read the name of the file. Then I interact with it. Then I use vo shift m and a 
menu comes up. Are usually go to open in, and arrow down through the choice of 
programs which will open the attachment.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I recently started using Mail on the Mac. I have one issue, opening or saving 
> attachments which are sent to me has so far been a hit and miss, sometimes I 
> can access them and other times not.
> 
> I usually try command plus O to open or VO space on them, can anyone give me 
> tips on how I can deal with email attachments?
> 
> Nickus
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Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Eat,
Is the rumor going around true that when the "totality" occurs that the mother 
ship will be revealed today?
Rumor from Ancient illegal Aliens .com
GOD for U is the Creator of the engineers that produced Apple!
C.R.


On Aug 21, 2017, at 10:49 AM, E.T. wrote:

>   NOVA is streaming this live today and PBS will air it tonight.
> 
>   The following link takes you to an eclipse calendar for any location in the 
> world.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/21/2017 1:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry to hear it’s been a bad weekend,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah I’m finding it kind of funny from this end as it’s a 7 minute
>> blackout that’s happening coast to coast across the usa,
>> 
>> And everyone is making such a big thing out of it,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yet if you can sset things up quickly enough NASA are streaming it so
>> you could copy that streem and have it for prosperity
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> New Zealand gets our next total eclipse in I think it’s 2028
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But good luck tomorrow or in the morning in my case.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Approx. 7 hours till darkness falls in the middle of the day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Donna Goodin
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 20 August 2017 3:25 PM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is a very fun story about a small town in the U.S. that suddenly
>> finds itself in the limelight.  As best i understand it, the longest
>> duration of the eclipse is in a small town in Illinois where many of my
>> in-laws live, and where my husband and I lived till this past April.
>> Truth be told, this has been a rough weekend.  I'm sad I'm not there.
>> The  university is closed Monday, and there are lots of parties that we
>> would be attending if we still lived there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://eclipse.siu.edu
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> ,
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Simon Fogarty >> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Hi Janina,
>> 
>>Yes it was a story on our evening news tv show last night.
>> 
>>The town in Oregon that is the centre of the eclipse  has a
>>population of approx. 6500 people but they are expecting 25 to
>>arrive over the next day or so to watch the eclipse
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 6:55 AM
>>To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>>Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
>> 
>>Simon,
>> 
>>Where I live just outside Washington, DC, it will approximately 80%.
>>It's full further west in the U.S. Hotels out west are full. People
>>are sleeping in their cars, I imagine! 
>> 
>>Janina
>> 
>>Simon Fogarty writes:
>> 
>>I didn't know there was to be a solar eclipse this year?
>> 
>>So is it a full one for you folks in the northern hemisphere or
>>only partial?
>> 
>>And besides I'm sure this type of thing happens every day, Or at
>>least
>>night, I believe what happens is the earth gets in front of the
>>sun so that the side of the earth furtherest away from the sun
>>is eclipsed from seeing it,  and it gets very dark on that
>>furtherest away side.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 9:40 AM
>>To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>>Subject: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
>> 
>>Hi,
>> 
>>People living anywhere proximate to the coming solar eclipse
>>might want to look into a special app intended to help blind and
>>visually impaired people experience this upcoming celestial event:
>> 
>>https://www.space.com/37746-solar-eclipse-experience-for-visually-impa
>>ired.html
>> 
>>The app, Eclipse Soundscape, may well be available via Itunes
>>Appstore.
>>I haven't checked, though.
>> 
>>Enjoy!
>> 
>>Janina
>> 
>> 
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Re: Be my eyes and capture images

[Jessica Moss]

I love using them for just that?  Is there a way to report that you on 
occasion, get a rep with a bad connection?
  I've gotten a couple of those, and there doesn't seem to be much you can do 
but either wait it out or terminate the session.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Be my eyes sets up a video chat session with a sighted person. You simply 
> speak to them as you point the camera towards the thing you want described or 
> that you need help with. Then they tell you what they see and help you with 
> whatever it is you need. It could be anything, from reading the label on a 
> canna soup, two sorting out documents, or as in this case, reading the 
> contents of your computer screen. Check it out in the App Store, be my eyes 
> is the name of the app. Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2017, at 3:13 AM, Georges Zaynoun  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to proceed with that? Do we send them the webpage or what? Please 
>> explain.
>> Original message:
>>> Yea!  That’s the best, one more hurdle we’ve come through!
>> 
>> 
 On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
 I just use the Be My Eyes app to solve a capture image on the web page. 
 Worked like a charm, what a great service. No more need for Romola or 
 other capture solving subscriptions.
>> 
 Sent from my IPhone
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Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

[E.T.]

   NOVA is streaming this live today and PBS will air it tonight.

   The following link takes you to an eclipse calendar for any location 
in the world.





From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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On 8/21/2017 1:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi Donna,



Sorry to hear it’s been a bad weekend,



Yeah I’m finding it kind of funny from this end as it’s a 7 minute
blackout that’s happening coast to coast across the usa,

And everyone is making such a big thing out of it,



Yet if you can sset things up quickly enough NASA are streaming it so
you could copy that streem and have it for prosperity



New Zealand gets our next total eclipse in I think it’s 2028



But good luck tomorrow or in the morning in my case.



Approx. 7 hours till darkness falls in the middle of the day.





*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Donna Goodin
*Sent:* Sunday, 20 August 2017 3:25 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible



Hi Simon,



This is a very fun story about a small town in the U.S. that suddenly
finds itself in the limelight.  As best i understand it, the longest
duration of the eclipse is in a small town in Illinois where many of my
in-laws live, and where my husband and I lived till this past April.
 Truth be told, this has been a rough weekend.  I'm sad I'm not there.
 The  university is closed Monday, and there are lots of parties that we
would be attending if we still lived there.



http://eclipse.siu.edu

Donna

,

Donna

On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:



Hi Janina,

Yes it was a story on our evening news tv show last night.

The town in Oregon that is the centre of the eclipse  has a
population of approx. 6500 people but they are expecting 25 to
arrive over the next day or so to watch the eclipse



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 6:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

Simon,

Where I live just outside Washington, DC, it will approximately 80%.
It's full further west in the U.S. Hotels out west are full. People
are sleeping in their cars, I imagine! 

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:

I didn't know there was to be a solar eclipse this year?

So is it a full one for you folks in the northern hemisphere or
only partial?

And besides I'm sure this type of thing happens every day, Or at
least
night, I believe what happens is the earth gets in front of the
sun so that the side of the earth furtherest away from the sun
is eclipsed from seeing it,  and it gets very dark on that
furtherest away side.



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 9:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

Hi,

People living anywhere proximate to the coming solar eclipse
might want to look into a special app intended to help blind and
visually impaired people experience this upcoming celestial event:

https://www.space.com/37746-solar-eclipse-experience-for-visually-impa
ired.html

The app, Eclipse Soundscape, may well be available via Itunes
Appstore.
I haven't checked, though.

Enjoy!

Janina


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Re: Accessing attachments in Mail on the Mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Nickus,

I too have been experiencing problems trying to open an attachment in an email 
message.  I've given up on this and I save the attachments first to downloads 
and then open them from there.  I guess you know how to save attachments.  It's 
done through the file menu and you can choose in the dialog window where you 
want to save them.

Best wishes

Andrew
> On 21 Aug 2017, at 11:25, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I recently started using Mail on the Mac. I have one issue, opening or saving 
> attachments which are sent to me has so far been a hit and miss, sometimes I 
> can access them and other times not.
> 
> I usually try command plus O to open or VO space on them, can anyone give me 
> tips on how I can deal with email attachments?
> 
> Nickus
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Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[Scott Granados]

Nah, you don’t want them, they aren’t a good phone.

We recycle them because we want get these devices out of circulation.  Also we 
don’t want any liability for any of the gear so it all gets wiped and broken 
down for their components.
 

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 4:49 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Well rather than throwing them away send a couple my way, I've got family 
> that will use them 
> 
> Hell that's a waste of a good device.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 2:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported
> 
> The S8 has many reboot issues, freezing, the fingerprint censor is mounted 
> right next to the camera so you smudge your lens every time you authenticate, 
> the processor is slow, the Bixby feature isn’t that compelling other than 
> good internal phone control, and I could keep going.  Mainly another lack 
> luster at best showing from Samsung.  Some like the phone but I used it for a 
> week and at the end convinced work to send over 150 of them to the recycler 
> my experience was so unfavorable.
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> What's wrong with the S8 devices?
>> 
>> And why re release the note 7, it's a dog of a device, no one will trust it 
>> and besides they will have to release at a lower price to fit in with the 
>> note 8 release
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:31 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported
>> 
>> Funnier than that Simon, Samsung is rereleasing the note 7 as well.  SO 
>> there’s almost certainly fires in our future.:). My employer just sent 150 
>> S8 phones to the recycler.
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> Your comments on Samsung and their products recall and release,
>>> 
>>> The proof should be released on Wednesday the 23rd august,
>>> 
>>> Samsung are to release the new note 8,
>>> 
>>> No word yet on it's burn time but hey we all remember the note 7
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lets see what happens this time round.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017 9:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported
>>> 
>>> Well actually Gary the features they leave out usually make sense including 
>>> in this case.  Let’s review.
>>> 
>>> First, the HSPA. /3G wasn’t supported because the initial chipsets were 
>>> awful.  Also very little was deployed across the network.
>>> Then LTE was with held until the 5, do you remember how bad the other 
>>> LTE phones who were early were?  The HTC phones barely worked and had a 2 
>>> hour battery life, Sprint was using that really bad WIMAX standard, 
>>> T-Mobile was all in on 3G and pushing HSPA+ heavily and there was a 
>>> shortage of LTE chips.
>>> Now in the case of the watch, there’s no good full featured LTE 
>>> chip yet that includes VOLTE.  There’s also no mixed 3 and 4G chips that 
>>> will fit in a watch.  In combination with this, where are you going to put 
>>> the sim?  By the time you have the tray and sim itself plus the slot you 
>>> use up to much space not to mention increase the complexity of water 
>>> proofing.  The E-SIM saves a lot of space for the actual LTE radio and 
>>> modem hardware and you still have the full bluetooth channel back to your 
>>> phone for placing calls. FaceTime or Skype would also likely be options 
>>> over this high speed data channel but VOLTE isn’t included.O. (Qualcomm 
>>> doesn’t have that included yet). So you have to build for the parts you can 
>>> get access to and this year data only is the option.  Remember the phones 
>>> all started out LTE data only at first as well, not just Apple but everyone.
>>> 
>>> Apple doesn’t put something in a phone or product until it really works, 
>>> every time.  You might get more bleeding edge options in other brands but 
>>> you get the instability to go with it.  Samsung is a good example of this 
>>> with their restarts and history of cellular problems.  Samsung has good 
>>> ability to field upgrade with software to correct these problems though but 
>>> Apple is shooting for a stable error free but conservative experience.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Aug 16, 2017, at 2:05 PM, gary-melconian  wrote:
 
 Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I 
 really 

Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

[Donna Goodin]

Speaking only for myself, it's not the eclipse that I'm bummed out about 
missing.  In fact, we are in the path of the eclipse where I live now.  It's 
the fun parties! lol

I believe the eclipse to which you refer is in 2027.  I know that Illinois is 
in the path of that one, too.

Take care,
Donna

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> Sorry to hear it’s been a bad weekend,
>  
> Yeah I’m finding it kind of funny from this end as it’s a 7 minute blackout 
> that’s happening coast to coast across the usa,
> And everyone is making such a big thing out of it,
>  
> Yet if you can sset things up quickly enough NASA are streaming it so you 
> could copy that streem and have it for prosperity
>  
> New Zealand gets our next total eclipse in I think it’s 2028
>  
> But good luck tomorrow or in the morning in my case.
>  
> Approx. 7 hours till darkness falls in the middle of the day.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 3:25 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> This is a very fun story about a small town in the U.S. that suddenly finds 
> itself in the limelight.  As best i understand it, the longest duration of 
> the eclipse is in a small town in Illinois where many of my in-laws live, and 
> where my husband and I lived till this past April.  Truth be told, this has 
> been a rough weekend.  I'm sad I'm not there.  The  university is closed 
> Monday, and there are lots of parties that we would be attending if we still 
> lived there.
>  
> http://eclipse.siu.edu 
> Donna
> ,
> Donna
> On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Janina,
> 
> Yes it was a story on our evening news tv show last night.
> 
> The town in Oregon that is the centre of the eclipse  has a population of 
> approx. 6500 people but they are expecting 25 to arrive over the next day 
> or so to watch the eclipse 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] 
> Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 6:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
> 
> Simon,
> 
> Where I live just outside Washington, DC, it will approximately 80%.
> It's full further west in the U.S. Hotels out west are full. People are 
> sleeping in their cars, I imagine! 
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> 
> I didn't know there was to be a solar eclipse this year?
> 
> So is it a full one for you folks in the northern hemisphere or only partial?
> 
> And besides I'm sure this type of thing happens every day, Or at least 
> night, I believe what happens is the earth gets in front of the sun so that 
> the side of the earth furtherest away from the sun is eclipsed from seeing 
> it,  and it gets very dark on that furtherest away side.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ]
> Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 9:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: App to make the solar eclipse accessible
> 
> Hi,
> 
> People living anywhere proximate to the coming solar eclipse might want to 
> look into a special app intended to help blind and visually impaired people 
> experience this upcoming celestial event:
> 
> https://www.space.com/37746-solar-eclipse-experience-for-visually-impa 
> 
> ired.html
> 
> The app, Eclipse Soundscape, may well be available via Itunes Appstore.
> I haven't checked, though.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Janina
> 
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Accessing attachments in Mail on the Mac

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I recently started using Mail on the Mac. I have one issue, opening or saving 
attachments which are sent to me has so far been a hit and miss, sometimes I 
can access them and other times not.

I usually try command plus O to open or VO space on them, can anyone give me 
tips on how I can deal with email attachments?

Nickus

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Issue with Apple Mail saving drafts on my Gmail.

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I’m not sure if this is a Voiceover issue or a general bug in the Apple Mail 
app.

I have a Gmail account added in Apple Mail. On the Mac I only use this mail 
account threw the Mail application, but when working on Windows I access the 
account threw a browser.

When ever composing a new mail in the Apple Mail app, I would type the email 
and afterwards I would go to the toolbar and select attachments to attach a 
file. After selecting a file to attach I will then send the email.
It seams that if after typing the email and clicking on attachments, a draft of 
the email is saved on the Gmail server, even though I send the email after 
attaching a file.

Result of this is that a lot of drafts end up in my email conversations when 
accessing the email account threw a browser, this is very annoying.

Have anyone else experienced this and is there a fix for it?


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Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[lenron brown]

I said the same thing what a waste, but I still find the phone to be
lovely. Waiting on the IPhone 8 as well though. I won't be getting it
if it will not have touch id because I have gotten use to using that
in most apps. It will probably take most apps to upgrade to face reg.
a couple months.

On 8/21/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Well rather than throwing them away send a couple my way, I've got family
> that will use them
>
> Hell that's a waste of a good device.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 2:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not
> supported
>
> The S8 has many reboot issues, freezing, the fingerprint censor is mounted
> right next to the camera so you smudge your lens every time you
> authenticate, the processor is slow, the Bixby feature isn’t that compelling
> other than good internal phone control, and I could keep going.  Mainly
> another lack luster at best showing from Samsung.  Some like the phone but I
> used it for a week and at the end convinced work to send over 150 of them to
> the recycler my experience was so unfavorable.
>
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> What's wrong with the S8 devices?
>>
>> And why re release the note 7, it's a dog of a device, no one will trust
>> it and besides they will have to release at a lower price to fit in with
>> the note 8 release
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:31 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not
>> supported
>>
>> Funnier than that Simon, Samsung is rereleasing the note 7 as well.  SO
>> there’s almost certainly fires in our future.:). My employer just sent 150
>> S8 phones to the recycler.
>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> Your comments on Samsung and their products recall and release,
>>>
>>> The proof should be released on Wednesday the 23rd august,
>>>
>>> Samsung are to release the new note 8,
>>>
>>> No word yet on it's burn time but hey we all remember the note 7
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets see what happens this time round.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017 9:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not
>>> supported
>>>
>>> Well actually Gary the features they leave out usually make sense
>>> including in this case.  Let’s review.
>>>
>>> First, the HSPA. /3G wasn’t supported because the initial chipsets were
>>> awful.  Also very little was deployed across the network.
>>> Then LTE was with held until the 5, do you remember how bad the other
>>> LTE phones who were early were?  The HTC phones barely worked and had a 2
>>> hour battery life, Sprint was using that really bad WIMAX standard,
>>> T-Mobile was all in on 3G and pushing HSPA+ heavily and there was a
>>> shortage of LTE chips.
>>> Now in the case of the watch, there’s no good full featured LTE 
>>> chip
>>> yet that includes VOLTE.  There’s also no mixed 3 and 4G chips that will
>>> fit in a watch.  In combination with this, where are you going to put the
>>> sim?  By the time you have the tray and sim itself plus the slot you use
>>> up to much space not to mention increase the complexity of water
>>> proofing.  The E-SIM saves a lot of space for the actual LTE radio and
>>> modem hardware and you still have the full bluetooth channel back to your
>>> phone for placing calls. FaceTime or Skype would also likely be options
>>> over this high speed data channel but VOLTE isn’t included.O. (Qualcomm
>>> doesn’t have that included yet). So you have to build for the parts you
>>> can get access to and this year data only is the option.  Remember the
>>> phones all started out LTE data only at first as well, not just Apple but
>>> everyone.
>>>
>>> Apple doesn’t put something in a phone or product until it really works,
>>> every time.  You might get more bleeding edge options in other brands but
>>> you get the instability to go with it.  Samsung is a good example of this
>>> with their restarts and history of cellular problems.  Samsung has good
>>> ability to field upgrade with software to correct these problems though
>>> but Apple is shooting for a stable error free but conservative
>>> experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Aug 16, 2017, at 2:05 PM, gary-melconian 
>>> wrote:

 Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I
 really 

RE: iOS 11 'cop button' also helps users w/ Medical ID protect their data if unconscious

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Mark,

Again a great article.

 I do find the later comment re the release sometime next month of the IOS 11 
and new iPhones of interest,

Previous articals you have sent to us have made comments of later release dates 
on the new devices.

But this sounds like an interesting feature although I'm not sure I could press 
the button 5 times quickly before someone takes my phone off me.

Guess I'll give it a go.
 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 11 'cop button' also helps users w/ Medical ID protect their data 
if unconscious

Everyone,  

Just so we are all clear, I am posting the following as a news article, only, 
and not as an invitation to discuss behind-the-scenes beta software code 
details.

If you are unclear as to the distinction I have set forth, above, please extend 
the kind courtesy of contacting Cara and me, off-list.  

Thank you and enjoy the read,

Mark

iOS 11 'cop button' also helps users w/ Medical ID protect their data if 
unconscious

9to5Mac - Friday, August 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM iOS 11 'cop button' also helps 
users w/ Medical ID protect their data if unconscious
 
iOS 11 beta 6 (released earlier this week) includes a new feature to quickly 
disable Touch ID from the lock screen. Tapping the lock button five times to 
access the SOS screen or opening a Medical ID will cause the iPhone or iPad to 
temporarily reject all Touch ID attempts, requiring a passcode to unlock.
We have confirmed with sources that this behavior is intentional rather than a 
bug, as well as some explanation as to why it was added. Whilst in theory it 
can be used to prevent law enforcement from compelling suspects to unlock their 
device with fingerprint, it also helps protect people who have fallen 
unconscious.
 
To try this out for yourself, update to iOS 11 beta 6 and access the Medical ID 
from the lockscreen. After dismissing the view, you will find that a passcode 
is required to get back to your home screen. You can also press the lock button 
five times to open the SOS/Medical ID/Shutdown slider page, which also performs 
the same Touch ID lockdown.
The phone will only accept Touch ID again once a valid passcode has been 
entered. Although by no means foolproof, the new feature is an added layer of 
security for the owner's data. If the iPhone owner falls unconscious and a 
bystander comes over to help, accessing the person's Medical ID will 
automatically prevent the person from using the unconscious owner's fingerprint 
to unlock the device against their will.
They can access the medical ID to help diagnose what might have caused the 
incident, but they can no longer unlock the device by placing the person's hand 
on the Touch ID sensor.
Obviously, an intelligent crook could unlock the unconscious person's device 
before entering the Medical ID or SOS modes but Apple is betting on most people 
being honest or the feature being enabled before the user loses consciousness. 
If the device owner is having a seizure, they can activate the SOS screen 
themselves to call their emergency contact with the knowledge that their device 
will be secure if they do lose consciousness or control of their body.
Similarly, if the first responder is an honest citizen and instantly accesses 
the Medical ID, the real owner of the phone will be secured if anyone else 
(such as police at the hospital bedside, for instance) attempts to force access 
by jamming their finger onto the fingerprint sensor.
With the upcoming 'Face ID' in iPhone 8, you can see how the same behavior 
defends against unconscious unlocks with face biometrics too.
The feature may also prevent some people from being forced into giving their 
data over to law enforcement; five presses of a physical button is faster and 
easier than attempting to turn off your phone before it is snatched out of your 
hand. The legal implications are a bit unclear; people have been jailed before 
for refusing to give their fingerprints.
Again, this will help in some situations and not others. Still, your chances 
are always higher than on a device running iOS 10.
iOS 11 should be released to the public sometime next month, alongside the new 
iPhone launch.
 
Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/18/cop-button-ios-11-beta-6-medical-id-unconscio
us/

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RE: p cloud problems

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Jean,

 What about Mega Uploads or even google drive?

 Do you know approximately what capacity of data you need to back up?

 There is also another product we use at work called 
Syncplicity 
Syncplicity.com which has a free service I don't know what level of content 
they have but it's a possible option and has a desktop client as well as web 
interface.

But the most trustworthy service I think I could suggest would be Time Machine 
but that would mean having an external drive to use for your backups 



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 6:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: p cloud problems

Hello All:

Hoping someone can help. In an attempt to find a backup service that doesn’t 
take up space on my hard drive, I downloaded and installed p cloud. I put some 
files into the p cloud drive but according to the web interface it is not 
uploading those files. Now, whenever I land on p cloud in the finder it says p 
cloud drive can’t be opened because the original item can’t be found. So then I 
tried to uninstall p cloud and when I try to do this from the applications 
folder I get an error message saying that the item p cloud drive can’t be moved 
to the trash because it is opened. 

I can’t find anything useful in the context menu or anywhere else for that 
matter. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Jean
 
Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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RE: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[Simon Fogarty]

Well rather than throwing them away send a couple my way, I've got family that 
will use them 

Hell that's a waste of a good device.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 2:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

The S8 has many reboot issues, freezing, the fingerprint censor is mounted 
right next to the camera so you smudge your lens every time you authenticate, 
the processor is slow, the Bixby feature isn’t that compelling other than good 
internal phone control, and I could keep going.  Mainly another lack luster at 
best showing from Samsung.  Some like the phone but I used it for a week and at 
the end convinced work to send over 150 of them to the recycler my experience 
was so unfavorable.

> On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with the S8 devices?
> 
> And why re release the note 7, it's a dog of a device, no one will trust it 
> and besides they will have to release at a lower price to fit in with the 
> note 8 release
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:31 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported
> 
> Funnier than that Simon, Samsung is rereleasing the note 7 as well.  SO 
> there’s almost certainly fires in our future.:). My employer just sent 150 S8 
> phones to the recycler.
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> Your comments on Samsung and their products recall and release,
>> 
>> The proof should be released on Wednesday the 23rd august,
>> 
>> Samsung are to release the new note 8,
>> 
>> No word yet on it's burn time but hey we all remember the note 7
>> 
>> 
>> Lets see what happens this time round.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017 9:03 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported
>> 
>> Well actually Gary the features they leave out usually make sense including 
>> in this case.  Let’s review.
>> 
>> First, the HSPA. /3G wasn’t supported because the initial chipsets were 
>> awful.  Also very little was deployed across the network.
>>  Then LTE was with held until the 5, do you remember how bad the other 
>> LTE phones who were early were?  The HTC phones barely worked and had a 2 
>> hour battery life, Sprint was using that really bad WIMAX standard, T-Mobile 
>> was all in on 3G and pushing HSPA+ heavily and there was a shortage of LTE 
>> chips.
>>  Now in the case of the watch, there’s no good full featured LTE 
>> chip yet that includes VOLTE.  There’s also no mixed 3 and 4G chips that 
>> will fit in a watch.  In combination with this, where are you going to put 
>> the sim?  By the time you have the tray and sim itself plus the slot you use 
>> up to much space not to mention increase the complexity of water proofing.  
>> The E-SIM saves a lot of space for the actual LTE radio and modem hardware 
>> and you still have the full bluetooth channel back to your phone for placing 
>> calls. FaceTime or Skype would also likely be options over this high speed 
>> data channel but VOLTE isn’t included.O. (Qualcomm doesn’t have that 
>> included yet). So you have to build for the parts you can get access to and 
>> this year data only is the option.  Remember the phones all started out LTE 
>> data only at first as well, not just Apple but everyone.
>> 
>> Apple doesn’t put something in a phone or product until it really works, 
>> every time.  You might get more bleeding edge options in other brands but 
>> you get the instability to go with it.  Samsung is a good example of this 
>> with their restarts and history of cellular problems.  Samsung has good 
>> ability to field upgrade with software to correct these problems though but 
>> Apple is shooting for a stable error free but conservative experience.
>> 
>> 
>> Aug 16, 2017, at 2:05 PM, gary-melconian  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I 
>>> really wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking.
>>> 
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RE: Apple MacBook Air (2017) review - CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

 Yeah that's the first of the magic keyboards,

 I've got that one myself,

 A lot nicer than the older mac wifi keyboar  

But as I use a 9 litre back pack to carry around my notebook and associated 
things, so chucking a small keyboard into my bag wouldn't add a lot especially 
one of the magic keyboards,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017 2:09 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Re: Apple MacBook Air (2017) review - CNET

Nah the magic keyboard is very streamline. I have a separate pocket in my 
laptop bag where it fits nicely.  Really like it because I can kick back in my 
cube with my headphones on and feet up on my desk hahaha and not hold the 
weight of the laptop.  Also the key feel is quite good for a wireless keyboard. 
 It’s the size of the 15 inch MacBook Pro keyboard with function keys.  It’s 
not like carrying around one of the big Logitech deals.

> On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeha the processor is currently on the lower side, but I'm still not a 
> fan of the touch bar and or keyboard, As for magic keyboard, yeah just 
> another pease of crap to cary aroiund with me.
> 
> 
> A good thing though is I'm able to do more and more from my iPad 
> except currently for powershell command line stuff which is really 
> only limiting when working with exchange Still I'd rather have the 
> 11inch air  with upscaled processor ram and hdd -Original 
> Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple MacBook Air (2017) review - CNET
> 
> Don’t go with a non touch bar version, you won’t like the processor hit.  
> Just use a magic keyboard.  I have one and love it now that I’m used to it.
> 
> I think my favorite laptop though is still my MacBook Pro 15 Mid 2016 with a 
> 2.8 GHz quad core I7, upgraded graphics and a TB of SSD along with the built 
> in MagSafe.  I have no idea why they canned MagSafe, I like it as well.  They 
> do make a USB-C to MagSafe adapter though which brings it back all be it 
> through an adapter to your laptops.  Good thing is you can reuse the old 
> power cords then instead of having to buy all new USB-C power cubes.
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:47 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I love my air 11inch from mid 2013
>> 
>> I will need to look at a new machine next year but can't find one I 
>> currently like.
>> 
>> The new keyboards put me offand yeah the lack of magsafe adaptor again puts 
>> me off.
>> 
>> As for the processor yeah I'm going to have to go to a mac book pro 
>> without the touch bar Faster processor and more ram Still I want an 
>> 11 inch body.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>> CNET Reviews - Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 4:00 AM Apple MacBook Air (2017) 
>> review - CNET Apple's MacBook Air is as close to iconic as a piece of 
>> consumer technology gets. It's the single laptop model you're most likely to 
>> see everywhere, from college campuses to airports to coffee shops and even 
>> offices. And it's been that way for a very long time.
>> That's the problem. Not counting an incremental spec bump in mid-2017, this 
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>> CPU  2.2GHz Intel Core i7-5650U
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>> Graphics 1,536MB Intel HD Graphics 6000
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RE: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

Sorry to hear it’s been a bad weekend,

Yeah I’m finding it kind of funny from this end as it’s a 7 minute blackout 
that’s happening coast to coast across the usa,
And everyone is making such a big thing out of it,

Yet if you can sset things up quickly enough NASA are streaming it so you could 
copy that streem and have it for prosperity

New Zealand gets our next total eclipse in I think it’s 2028

But good luck tomorrow or in the morning in my case.

Approx. 7 hours till darkness falls in the middle of the day.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 3:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

Hi Simon,

This is a very fun story about a small town in the U.S. that suddenly finds 
itself in the limelight.  As best i understand it, the longest duration of the 
eclipse is in a small town in Illinois where many of my in-laws live, and where 
my husband and I lived till this past April.  Truth be told, this has been a 
rough weekend.  I'm sad I'm not there.  The  university is closed Monday, and 
there are lots of parties that we would be attending if we still lived there.

http://eclipse.siu.edu
Donna
,
Donna
On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Janina,

Yes it was a story on our evening news tv show last night.

The town in Oregon that is the centre of the eclipse  has a population of 
approx. 6500 people but they are expecting 25 to arrive over the next day 
or so to watch the eclipse



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017 6:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

Simon,

Where I live just outside Washington, DC, it will approximately 80%.
It's full further west in the U.S. Hotels out west are full. People are 
sleeping in their cars, I imagine! 

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:

I didn't know there was to be a solar eclipse this year?

So is it a full one for you folks in the northern hemisphere or only partial?

And besides I'm sure this type of thing happens every day, Or at least
night, I believe what happens is the earth gets in front of the sun so that the 
side of the earth furtherest away from the sun is eclipsed from seeing it,  and 
it gets very dark on that furtherest away side.



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 9:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: App to make the solar eclipse accessible

Hi,

People living anywhere proximate to the coming solar eclipse might want to look 
into a special app intended to help blind and visually impaired people 
experience this upcoming celestial event:

https://www.space.com/37746-solar-eclipse-experience-for-visually-impa
ired.html

The app, Eclipse Soundscape, may well be available via Itunes Appstore.
I haven't checked, though.

Enjoy!

Janina


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